You know what scares me about our defense...

cmh6476 · 08-28-2005, 10:11 AM

is the fact that we still don't seem to have any semblence of a pass rush. I went to the Minny game, and the game last night against the Seachickens. I didnt get to see most of the Cards game cause I was at a wedding. But in the two games I saw, I don't think we recorded one sack, and hardly ever did we put any pressure on Culpepper or Hasselbeck.

I think our linebackers have played extremely better than last year, and will be a strong point of the defense. I also think we will be fine at stopping the run.

I was also going through last year's stats for fantasy defense rankings, and to my surprise we were really up there last year as far as team sacks. What the hell is up with that, I don't remember us getting to the QB that much last year

I also think our secondary is better than last year, by default. However, I don't really think it matters if we can't put pressure on the QB. Surtain got beat last night because Hasselbeck had all day to throw the ball. Our defense in the 90s was so solid not only because of our talent at the position, but because guys like DT, Neil Smith and Saleamua could get to the QB. They didn't have as much time to sstep back, find an open target, and get rid of the ball.

Does anyone else have some concerns here. Honestly, that really is about the only question in my mind. The offense last night on that first drive looked like they were already in mid-season form. DJ looks like a monster, and our LBers are really playing well IMO. Even the secondary is going to be good. But do we have anybody that can russ the pressure and put some pressure on the opposing QBs, so they don't have 10 seconds to sit back in the pocket and find an open receiver?

4th and Long · 08-28-2005, 10:15 AM

Were you sound asleep during last weeks game when the starters were in? Besides, it's preseason, which only has one flavor. Vanilla. Fret not.

cmh6476 · 08-28-2005, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Were you sound asleep during last weeks game when the starters were in? Besides, it's preseason, which only has one flavor. Vanilla. Fret not.

I just said I was at a wedding, and didn't get to see the 'Zona game. But, I wouldnt put too much thought in beating Arizona's O-Line. They aren't that good, are they?

4th and Long · 08-28-2005, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

I just said I was at a wedding, and didn't get to see the 'Zona game. But, I wouldnt put too much thought in beating Arizona's O-Line. They aren't that good, are they?

Yes, I believe you DID mention that, now that I went back a reread what you typed. I can see I'm going to have to file a lawsuit against Evelyn Woods and her speed reading classes.

As for the Cards O line, I can't say for sure. They are either not that good or our D was a better. Lets just say Warner had to run quite a bit last week and leave it at that, shall we?

Coogs · 08-28-2005, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

As for the Cards O line, I can't say for sure. They are either not that good or our D was a better. Lets just say Warner had to run quite a bit last week and leave it at that, shall we?

It could have been all the blitzes Gun threw at the Cards...

4th and Long · 08-28-2005, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

It could have been all the blitzes Gun threw at the Cards...

I like the way you think, Good Citizen.

cmh6476 · 08-30-2005, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

I just said I was at a wedding, and didn't get to see the 'Zona game. But, I wouldnt put too much thought in beating Arizona's O-Line. They aren't that good, are they?

yeah, 'zona has a great O-Line!

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Arizona's offensive line will undermine J.J. Arrington
Arrington has spent most of the preseason dancing around the backfield, waiting for holes that never develop. He's rushed for no gain or lost yardage on roughly 30 percent of his preseason carries. Arrington has natural cutting skills, but doesn't appear quite ready to compensate for NFL speed. His offensive line, which is allowing defenders to reach him in the backfield, isn't helping. We were also disappointed to see Arrington "tap out" of the game near the goal line this weekend because he was tired. He doesn't appear quite ready to carry the full load of an NFL running back.

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Five Worst Offensive Lines
5. Arizona Cardinals - The Cardinals are working on their fourth center of training camp. Kurt Warner has been under attack and complaining. J.J. Arrington hasn't looked comfortable. This could be a big problem for Arrington, Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

http://msn.foxsports.com/fantasy/story/4820522

Coogs · 08-28-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Were you sound asleep during last weeks game when the starters were in? Besides, it's preseason, which only has one flavor. Vanilla. Fret not.

Gun blitzed like crazy against Arizona. Just like he did against the Rams last pre-season.

The front four pass rush is a bit suspect yet. The run defense though looks to be much improved.

Rick · 08-28-2005, 10:17 AM

We have no speed rushers from the outside unless Hall can do it. I think we may have counted too heavily on Jarrod Allen. I like everything else I've seen from the defense (Wesley questionable as is McCleon)

If Trent goes down for any substantial period of time we're screwed. Quinn in two days of practice looked better than Huard by far.

4th and Long · 08-28-2005, 10:20 AM

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If Trent goes down for any substantial period of time we're screwed. Quinn in two days of practice looked better than Huard by far.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the thread title. Nice attempted at a hijacking, you terrorist.

cmh6476 · 08-28-2005, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long

Which has absolutely nothing to do with the thread title. Nice attempted at a hijacking, you terrorist.

it does in the fact that I stated the only thing that scares me is the pass rush, while he was pointing out an injury to our QB could kill us. Did you even read the thread, or just the title?

4th and Long · 08-28-2005, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by cmh6476

it does in the fact that I stated the only thing that scares me is the pass rush, while he was pointing out an injury to our QB could kill us. Did you even read the thread, or just the title?

The thread title is, "You know what scares me about our defense... "

Did Trent decide to play defense? If so, I'd be worried too.

TEX · 08-28-2005, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick

We have no speed rushers from the outside unless Hall can do it. I think we may have counted too heavily on Jarrod Allen. I like everything else I've seen from the defense (Wesley questionable as is McCleon)

If Trent goes down for any substantial period of time we're screwed. Quinn in two days of practice looked better than Huard by far.

Yep on all accounts.

MOhillbilly · 08-30-2005, 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Rick

If Trent goes down for any substantial period of time we're screwed. Quinn in two days of practice looked better than Huard by far.

Thats crazy talk. KC has a rungame second to noone. Not to mention the best tightend ever.
ohhh and the line is prettyfair.

Rick · 08-30-2005, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

Thats crazy talk. KC has a rungame second to noone. Not to mention the best tightend ever.
ohhh and the line is prettyfair.

Yeah, we looked great with Okoye and Word with no quarterback. We scored about 10 pts a game and went nowhere in the playoffs.

08-28-2005, 10:11 AM	Topic Starter
cmh6476 Keep Camp Home! Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: St Joe MO Casino cash: $2686277	You know what scares me about our defense... is the fact that we still don't seem to have any semblence of a pass rush. I went to the Minny game, and the game last night against the Seachickens. I didnt get to see most of the Cards game cause I was at a wedding. But in the two games I saw, I don't think we recorded one sack, and hardly ever did we put any pressure on Culpepper or Hasselbeck. I think our linebackers have played extremely better than last year, and will be a strong point of the defense. I also think we will be fine at stopping the run. I was also going through last year's stats for fantasy defense rankings, and to my surprise we were really up there last year as far as team sacks. What the hell is up with that, I don't remember us getting to the QB that much last year I also think our secondary is better than last year, by default. However, I don't really think it matters if we can't put pressure on the QB. Surtain got beat last night because Hasselbeck had all day to throw the ball. Our defense in the 90s was so solid not only because of our talent at the position, but because guys like DT, Neil Smith and Saleamua could get to the QB. They didn't have as much time to sstep back, find an open target, and get rid of the ball. Does anyone else have some concerns here. Honestly, that really is about the only question in my mind. The offense last night on that first drive looked like they were already in mid-season form. DJ looks like a monster, and our LBers are really playing well IMO. Even the secondary is going to be good. But do we have anybody that can russ the pressure and put some pressure on the opposing QBs, so they don't have 10 seconds to sit back in the pocket and find an open receiver?
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08-28-2005, 10:15 AM	#2
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08-28-2005, 10:17 AM	#9
Rick chief professor Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Kansas Casino cash: $10004900	We have no speed rushers from the outside unless Hall can do it. I think we may have counted too heavily on Jarrod Allen. I like everything else I've seen from the defense (Wesley questionable as is McCleon) If Trent goes down for any substantial period of time we're screwed. Quinn in two days of practice looked better than Huard by far.
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