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Old 06-06-2012, 06:45 AM  
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Would the OKC Thunder had been as successful if they were in KC?
Re-reading the below thread and their recent success got me thinking about this.......could it have been the same in KC? IM gonna say no. OKC was lightening in a bottle.......They had no pro sports and the city has really rallied behind them. But who knows.....whats your take?




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Old 06-06-2012, 09:40 AM   #46
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Yeah, I went to a Hawks/Heat playoff game in Atlanta a few years ago and was really impressed with the energy inside the building... and it was freakin' Atlanta. That's one thing the NBA does really well.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:42 AM   #47
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That's the funny thing about it. Women and kids get in to the NBA more than anything I've seen. I'm really surprised by how much the casual sports fan loves it.

The live experience is a lot of it. Especially once people go to a playoff game. The energy in the building is so amazing. They also cater to the fans. They are building future fans. My daughter has meet all the players and has run drills with them on the court. All the players treat the kids great. I would have killed to play with George Brett when I was a kid. Even my 4 month old has a picture with Russell Westbrook. That strategy is what I believe will make it work long term.
Yep, my two year old woke up this morning saying "Thunder Up, Fear Beard!" Haha. It was the best thing I've ever heard.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:47 AM   #48
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I've been a sports fan my whole life. I've been to Royals and Chiefs playoff games. I went to the SuperBowl last year and all I could think the whole time is this doesn't match a Thunder playoff game. I recommend anyone to come down for a playoff game sometime. You won't be disappointed. I like the NFL better, but I like the NBA in game experience better. Tailgating is the funnest part of the NFL game to me. Other than that I'd just as soon watch on TV.
This is why the NFL will always be king in this country.

Basketball and baseball are great sporting events to aattend live, for different reasons.

But football is, far and away, the best TV sport.

Since average fan can only afford to attend live sporting events a limited number of times, the game that is most entertaining on TV wins.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:49 AM   #49
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Seeing I've split my life between the cities I'll weigh in.

The answer is yes.

Presti was already in place. Durant was already on the team.

I don't know that KC would have supported them as much in the 23 win season, but just as much after. These kids are winners and KC would have embraced that. There were a lot of people here who didn't care much at first, but pretty much everyone is on the bandwagon now.

This team has already been the their conference finals more in 4 years than the Chiefs have been in my life time. The Royals haven't been to the playoffs in 27 years. The NBA would be huge there with this team. I don't know if KC would have as many sell outs with more things to do there, but it would be close. KC and OKC are sports towns and get behind a winner.

Honestly, I've been looking for a NBA team to fully get behind since the Kings left so I would have been happy either way. Though, KC never really had a chance. Bennett and his group wanted to buy the Hornets and keep them here as well. When he bought the Sonics he would have kept them there and been fine I think, but he wanted a State of the art arena. If he couldn't do that then he was going home period. The people of Seattle can paint him the villain, but he's a business man. If he could make more money in Seattle he would. The real villain is Schultz because he knew there was a chance he was moving the team.

I'm glad they came here since I live here. However, if they were the KC Whatevers I'd be a huge fan too.
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That's the funny thing about it. Women and kids get in to the NBA more than anything I've seen. I'm really surprised by how much the casual sports fan loves it.

The live experience is a lot of it. Especially once people go to a playoff game. The energy in the building is so amazing. They also cater to the fans. They are building future fans. My daughter has meet all the players and has run drills with them on the court. All the players treat the kids great. I would have killed to play with George Brett when I was a kid. Even my 4 month old has a picture with Russell Westbrook. That strategy is what I believe will make it work long term.
Great posts. I still think the Thunder really benefited from a perfect storm of things. Starved pro sports market, great drafts, etc......but they have done a great job. Good luck tonight, I think the Thunder take it, but the Spurs put up a decent fight.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:56 AM   #50
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They'd be looking up at the Charlotte Bobcats if they were in KC because KC is a cursed sports town.
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Old 06-06-2012, 09:56 AM   #51
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Kings left Kansas City because they were purchased by a group from Sacramento who wanted a team in Sacramento. Not much KC could do there.

Also the reason they were known as the Kansas City-Omaha Kings was because at the time Municipal Auditorum was their home and it was booked solid all the time, thus not enough prime open dates were available. Thus they played several games in Omaha each year. This all changed in 1975 when Kemper Arena was opened.

I think Kansas City can support a NBA/NHL team, mainly due to our vast regional appeal, but the biggest concern would be corporate sponsorship dollars. The suites at Sprint Center are already sold out, its just sponsorship dollars that are the kicker IMO.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:02 AM   #52
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Of course the thunder would have been successful here or anywhere else for that matter.

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Old 06-06-2012, 10:17 AM   #53
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What I did say is, when they had a team they didn't support them. Nothing more, nothing less.

It's my OPINION, that KC wouldn't have supported the Thunder as much as OKC has. I base the opinion on something tangiable like past attendance records, not on "Things change."

No shit, things change, but that isn't something tangiable like attendence records. That's just a guess on your part.
What are attendence figures for the other small markets that had teams then and have on now? 9-10k is 20ish today..

For all we know, that is decent support for the facility they had then.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:23 AM   #54
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What are attendence figures for the other small markets that had teams then and have on now? 9-10k is 20ish today..

For all we know, that is decent support for the facility they had then.
There is also close to 1 million more people in the KC Metro Area than there was in the 70's.
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Support a winner, sure. Support another losing franchise, I think we've had enough of that. It really comes down to local ownership, if we had that I'd expect support for the team. But these remote ownerships just don't seem to be doing much to help us out.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:28 AM   #56
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I think Kansas City can support a NBA/NHL team, mainly due to our vast regional appeal, but the biggest concern would be corporate sponsorship dollars. The suites at Sprint Center are already sold out, its just sponsorship dollars that are the kicker IMO.
Exactly. This has helped the Thunder thrive in OKC. Chesapeake, Devon, Sand Ridge... Lots of oil money in OKC that help drive tons of Corporate Revenue.
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Old 06-06-2012, 10:36 AM   #57
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Could KC support an NBA team? Sure.

But it's going to come at the expense of the Chiefs and/or Royals - who are already struggling for support without having to fight another franchise for the sports fan entertainment dollar.

Have any of you seen what the Thunder (and NBA teams in general) charge for tickets?

A lot of people in KC hate paying for 10 Chiefs games a year - can't imagine they'll be lining up to pay the same prices (or higher) for 40+ home games.

Lower level seating: $60-275

Club level seating: $85-$170

Upper level seating: $10-$70

Just not seeing it, without it having a huge impact on the Chiefs and/or Royals.
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Just not seeing it, without it having a huge impact on the Chiefs and/or Royals.
I could cut the Royals lose in an instant. They've been wasting our time for 90% of my life.

If they wanted to leave, fine by me. Open the door for another franchise that matters.
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Could KC support an NBA team? Sure.

But it's going to come at the expense of the Chiefs and/or Royals - who are already struggling for support without having to fight another franchise for the sports fan entertainment dollar.

Have any of you seen what the Thunder (and NBA teams in general) charge for tickets?

A lot of people in KC hate paying for 10 Chiefs games a year - can't imagine they'll be lining up to pay the same prices (or higher) for 40+ home games.

Lower level seating: $60-275

Club level seating: $85-$170

Upper level seating: $10-$70

Just not seeing it, without it having a huge impact on the Chiefs and/or Royals.
Looks similar to hockey... KC is supposedly already one of the most over-extended sports markets in the country. I doubt the Royals could have 25-30,000+ show up on a Saturday night (like they've done several times this season) along with 15,000+ at the Sprint Center and possibly another 18,000 at a Sporting KC game on the same weekend. It would definitely put pressure on the Royals and Chiefs to put a winning team on the field... or uh, move to LA.
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Unrealistic scenario: If KC could host another professional team (basketball OR hockey... hell, I love hockey), but it had to come at the expense of another team, I'd tell the Royals to **** themselves in a second.
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