Dumb idea of the day: Let Alex Smith play out his contract

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by temper11

I don't understand what you are saying. You don't think Smith said this?

he might have... don't really care what he said. talk is cheap. we will see what the deal comes out to.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

he might have... don't really care what he said. talk is cheap. we will see what the deal comes out to.

Ok... that's fine, but you shouldn't say Ace pulled it out of his ass when Smith did indeed say what he said that he said... wait... what?

And, again, with Smith - talk isn't cheap. I believe he meant exactly what he said. I also believe it's possible that he gets a huge deal inspite of what he said for one or both of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Or they let him play out his contract and he walks at the end of next year. Who the **** knows!

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by temper11

Ok... that's fine, but you shouldn't say Ace pulled it out of his ass when Smith did indeed say what he said that he said... wait... what?

And, again, with Smith - talk isn't cheap. I believe he meant exactly what he said. I also believe it's possible that he gets a huge deal inspite of what he said for one or both of the reasons I mentioned earlier.

Or they let him play out his contract and he walks at the end of next year. Who the **** knows!

did smith have this interview a couple years ago?

ace was saying this same thing when the trade went down...

because he pulled it out of his ass.

and im glad you believe his talk isn't cheap, hoping you are right because I have a feeling we are all going to find out sooner rather than later.

but its funny that you are playing both sides to keep it safe. he doesn't want a huge deal but he might take one due to x and y reasons

[temper11]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

did smith have this interview a couple years ago?

ace was saying this same thing when the trade went down...

because he pulled it out of his ass.

and im glad you believe his talk isn't cheap, hoping you are right because I have a feeling we are all going to find out sooner rather than later.

but its funny that you are playing both sides to keep it safe. he doesn't want a huge deal but he might take one due to x and y reasons

Smith gave the interview after the 2013 season. It was a direct question and he answered it with a lengthy, thought out response. Wasn't a passing comment. I'm not playing both sides to be safe. If Smith gets a huge deal, it won't be because he was looking for a big payday, it will be because either

1) Condon won't take the hit to his reputation by taking less than market value for a QB of Smith's caliber, or

2) Smith is afraid a team-friendly deal will make him expendable - just as it did in SF.

I don't know the guy personally, but I've followed his career since the draft and I've seen him restructure his contract because he wanted to stay in SF, I've seen him organize team practices when he wasn't even on a contract (during the lockout) and then sign a pretty modest contract again to stay in SF where his wifes family has roots and his own family is just a few hours south. He isn't about the money - not anymore. He wants to play and he wants to win.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by temper11

Smith gave the interview after the 2013 season. It was a direct question and he answered it with a lengthy, thought out response. Wasn't a passing comment. I'm not playing both sides to be safe. If Smith gets a huge deal, it won't be because he was looking for a big payday, it will be because either

1) Condon won't take the hit to his reputation by taking less than market value for a QB of Smith's caliber, or

2) Smith is afraid a team-friendly deal will make him expendable - just as it did in SF.

I don't know the guy personally, but I've followed his career since the draft and I've seen him restructure his contract because he wanted to stay in SF, I've seen him organize team practices when he wasn't even on a contract (during the lockout) and then sign a pretty modest contract again to stay in SF. He isn't about the money - not anymore. He wants to play and he wants to win.

So you're a former 49er fan.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you're a former 49er fan.

I'm still a 49er fan. I live in Sacramento. I know that many of you will now disregard anything I have to say and that's fine.... but I'm also a fan of the Chiefs. I've been a fan of the Chiefs for years after following Montana over there and a few QB's since then.

I've always been a fan of players and will follow my favorites from time to time. I get that some fans don't give a shit about individual players and that is there right too. For example, I just saw a post in another thread that suggested we should get rid of Charles - which astounds me that anyone would want that given the level of his play and the strength of his character.

But Smith was unfairly abused by spoiled 9ers fans for years. They expected him to overcome obstacles that no QB in my opinion could have and used him as their scape goat and whipping boy. I was embarrassed by our fans and want nothing more than to see the Alex Smith led Chiefs destroy my 9ers on their home turf this coming year. I've said as much on the niners boards and as you can imagine, have received an insult or two. But I'm not alone over there. When the Chiefs come to town, there will be a number of 9ers fans in the stands, that while not so vocal about it, are pulling for Smith to put up a monster day.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by temper11

I'm still a 49er fan. I live in Sacramento. I know that many of you will now disregard anything I have to say and that's fine.... but I'm also a fan of the Chiefs. I've been a fan of the Chiefs for years after following Montana over there and a few QB's since then.

I've always been a fan of players and will follow my favorites from time to time. I get that some fans don't give a shit about individual players and that is there right too. For example, I just saw a post in another thread that suggested we should get rid of Charles - which astounds me that anyone would want that given the level of his play and the strength of his character.

But Smith was unfairly abused by spoiled 9ers fans for years. They expected him to overcome obstacles that no QB in my opinion could have and used him as their scape goat and whipping boy. I was embarrassed by our fans and want nothing more than to see the Alex Smith led Chiefs destroy my 9ers on their home turf this coming year. I've said as much on the niners boards and as you can imagine, have received an insult or two. But I'm not alone over there. When the Chiefs come to town, there will be a number of 9ers fans in the stands, that while not so vocal about it, are pulling for Smith to put up a monster day.

Yes.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by temper11

Smith gave the interview after the 2013 season. It was a direct question and he answered it with a lengthy, thought out response. Wasn't a passing comment. I'm not playing both sides to be safe. If Smith gets a huge deal, it won't be because he was looking for a big payday, it will be because either

1) Condon won't take the hit to his reputation by taking less than market value for a QB of Smith's caliber, or

2) Smith is afraid a team-friendly deal will make him expendable - just as it did in SF.

I don't know the guy personally, but I've followed his career since the draft and I've seen him restructure his contract because he wanted to stay in SF, I've seen him organize team practices when he wasn't even on a contract (during the lockout) and then sign a pretty modest contract again to stay in SF where his wifes family has roots and his own family is just a few hours south. He isn't about the money - not anymore. He wants to play and he wants to win.

, suuuuuure you aren't playing both sides.


if he signs a big deal its because that's what he wants dude, his agent cant MAKE him take a bigger deal.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

if he signs a big deal its because that's what he wants dude, his agent cant MAKE him take a bigger deal.

Yeah what I thought too. Condon isn't going to make a player take a larger contract. An agent does not have final say on the contract the player has that authority.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

, suuuuuure you aren't playing both sides.


if he signs a big deal its because that's what he wants dude, his agent cant MAKE him take a bigger deal.

There are plenty of other's here that disagree with your statement about what an agent can and can't do. In fact, prior to the start of the 2012 season, Smith was quoted as saying that he'd already agreed to the terms on the table and didn't know why the deal wasn't done yet. Then we find out later that Condon was pitching Manning to the niners. So if the niners made Smith an offer and Smith agreed to that offer, why wasn't it finalized? Seems to me that Condon specifically held out to allow the niners to kick the tires on manning.

But if that's true, why the **** would Smith stay with Condon?

What I do believe, is that Smith is more interested in a team that is going to commit to him. If they can find a way to do that, that doesn't involve a huge payday, I think he will take it.

It may be however that Condon convinces Smith that the only way to get that commitment that Smith seeks is via a huge contract. And he may be right.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by temper11

There are plenty of other's here that disagree with your statement about what an agent can and can't do. In fact, prior to the start of the 2012 season, Smith was quoted as saying that he'd already agreed to the terms on the table and didn't know why the deal wasn't done yet. Then we find out later that Condon was pitching Manning to the niners. So if the niners made Smith an offer and Smith agreed to that offer, why wasn't it finalized? Seems to me that Condon specifically held out to allow the niners to kick the tires on manning.

But if that's true, why the **** would Smith stay with Condon?

What I do believe, is that Smith is more interested in a team that is going to commit to him. If they can find a way to do that, that doesn't involve a huge payday, I think he will take it.

It may be however that Condon convinces Smith that the only way to get that commitment that Smith seeks is via a huge contract. And he may be right.

show me someone here that thinks an agent can MAKE a player accept or decline a contract...

that's dumb dude.