Geno Smith is Sam Bradford

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by patteeu

How did you calculate that (or where did you get it)?

I made a large spreadsheet of all round 1 picks over the last 20 years, and looked at each player's time with their original team. 624 players.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

I made a large spreadsheet of all round 1 picks over the last 20 years, and looked at each player's time with their original team. 624 players.

You'd better check your work then, because you got it wrong.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by patteeu

You'd better check your work then, because you got it wrong.

Yep, just realized I missed AJ Green. WR should be 10%.

Unless you meant something else?

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Yep, just realized I missed AJ Green. WR should be 10%.

Unless you meant something else?

The quarterbacks were easy to check so I checked them and your number is incorrect. The technically correct number is 46% (12/26). If you give credit to Eli Manning and Philip Rivers as if they were drafted by NYG and San Diego respectively, the number is 54% (14/26).

So I'm not sure what your spreadsheet is doing, but I don't have confidence in your results.

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by patteeu

The quarterbacks were easy to check so I checked them and your number is incorrect. The technically correct number is 46% (12/26). If you give credit to Eli Manning and Philip Rivers as if they were drafted by NYG and San Diego respectively, the number is 54% (14/26).

So I'm not sure what your spreadsheet is doing, but I don't have confidence in your results.

Why don't you list the QBs that had overall winning records with their original teams? Yes, I am counting Eli and Rivers.

[patteeu]

Originally Posted by MagicHef

Why don't you list the QBs that had overall winning records with their original teams? Yes, I am counting Eli and Rivers.

Drew Bledsoe 63-60
Kerry Collins 22-20
Steve McNair 76-55
Peyton Manning 141-67
Donovan McNabb 92-49-1
Mike Vick 38-28-1
Philip Rivers 70-42
Eli Manning 78-57
Alex Smith 38-36-1
Vince Young 31-19
Matt Ryan 56-22
Mark Sanchez 33-29
Robert Griffin III 9-6
Andrew Luck 11-5

Here are the guys with losing records:

Rick Mirer 20-31
Heath Shuler 4-9
Ryan Leaf 4-14
Tim Couch 22-37
Akili Smith 3-14
Joey Harrington 18-37
David Carr 22-53
Carson Palmer 46-51
JaMarcus Russell 7-18
Matt Stafford 17-28
Sam Bradford 15-26-1
Cam Newton 13-19

[MagicHef]

Originally Posted by patteeu

Drew Bledsoe 63-60
Kerry Collins 22-20
Steve McNair 76-55
Peyton Manning 141-67
Donovan McNabb 92-49-1
Mike Vick 38-28-1
Philip Rivers 70-42
Eli Manning 78-57
Alex Smith 38-36-1
Vince Young 31-19
Matt Ryan 56-22
Mark Sanchez 33-29
Robert Griffin III 9-6
Andrew Luck 11-5

Here are the guys with losing records:

Rick Mirer 20-31
Heath Shuler 4-9
Ryan Leaf 4-14
Tim Couch 22-37
Akili Smith 3-14
Joey Harrington 18-37
David Carr 22-53
Carson Palmer 46-51
JaMarcus Russell 7-18
Matt Stafford 17-28
Sam Bradford 15-26-1
Cam Newton 13-19

The Panthers were 30-34 when Collins was on the team, Falcons were 47-48-1 with Vick, 49ers were 61-66-1 with Smith. You probably have starts, while I'm going by team record while they were on the roster, because starts don't work so well to compare guys like DTs.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by patteeu

The quarterbacks were easy to check so I checked them and your number is incorrect. The technically correct number is 46% (12/26). If you give credit to Eli Manning and Philip Rivers as if they were drafted by NYG and San Diego respectively, the number is 54% (14/26).

So I'm not sure what your spreadsheet is doing, but I don't have confidence in your results.

Double checking as well.

I got 14/26 as well. The 14 being:

Luck
Griffin
Sanchez
Ryan
V. Young
A. Smith
Eli Manning
Rivers
Vick
NcNabb
Peyton Manning
McNair
Collins
Bledsoe

EDIT: You posted this while I was typing.