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Old 09-11-2007, 01:22 PM  
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Keitzman going off on Carl
On sports radio 810 Kevein Keitzman is going off on Carl. I love it. He's actually saying some good things. Great rant.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:15 PM   #46
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I disagree. I'm ready to rebuild, and I think fans are ready for it. What they don't want is Carl doing the rebuilding. He's had enough chances. It's time for a change.

Are the Chiefs doing any rebuilding this year? Just look at the roster. There is no direction right now.

And as far as Croyle being the QBOTF, that is a joke. The guy will be nothing in this league. He was injury prone in college; it will be worse in the NFL. He couldn't beat out Damon friggin Huard this year even though the coaching staff did everything to help him out.
Great example of sloppily regurgitating what the media is shoveling you....

We want to rebuild... but not with that guy. Look at how terrible we've drafted the last few years.... Colquitt, Hali, Page, Pollard, Tyler. And our latest FA pickups.... Law, Surtain, Bennett, Boone..... all trash. He's not even trying...

We want a QBOTF, but not Croyle. I mean, he struggled and threw some INTs in preseason. Bust Bust Bust. No way could he improve..... Cut him now!
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:15 PM   #47
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To further this point. Not too long ago, Kietzman acknowledged his personal bias toward Carl because apparently he tried to get KK fired when he was working for Fox 4. Kietzman: "He tried to take my livelihood away from me!!!"

Thus his hatred for all things Carl, no matter what the man does.
That just shows how ruthless Carl really is. Why would he **** with another man's livelihood, especially when your some fat cat, who gets a free pass in this town. **** Carl.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:17 PM   #48
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And to the person who was questioning KK's comparison between Glass and it was the Hunts, not Carl, you made his point for him. They FIRED Baird for doing horrible. Made a change.
Yeah, 5 years too late!
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:17 PM   #49
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I don't like Keitzman but to act like because it's the general coming from him means you ignore it isn't right either...

The Chiefs deserve to be raked over the coals, this might be the first year a lot of the blind homer fans actually listen to it. There's no hiding what's going on right now.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:19 PM   #50
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I take it you did not have a chance to see any of the Chiefs four preseason games nor the game at Houston Sunday?
I couldn't care less about the preseason.

And one bad game is one bad game. We played like poo 1st game last year as well and still made the playoffs. I'm just not ready to throw this season in the trash after less than 72 hours. Honestly.

I think not signing a vet QB to take the 3 spot was a mistake. We needed some kind of vet to help with croyle and even a guy like Printers has something to contribute. Canadian FB or not.

There are still a number of areas where we need talent but when one compares what we've added and what we've needed...hot Carl hasn't done too bad the last two years.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:19 PM   #51
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Great example of sloppily regurgitating what the media is shoveling you....

We want to rebuild... but not with that guy. Look at how terrible we've drafted the last few years.... Colquitt, Hali, Page, Pollard, Tyler. And our latest FA pickups.... Law, Surtain, Bennett, Boone..... all trash. He's not even trying...

We want a QBOTF, but not Croyle. I mean, he struggled and threw some INTs in preseason. Bust Bust Bust. No way could he improve..... Cut him now!
No offense or anything put a first day punter better be really damn good, drafting a punter is questionable to begin with. You can't even list guys like Pollard or Tyler they are unproven we don't know.

Bennett has been trash so far you touch him he gets hurt....this roster is not overly talented compared to other teams, let's not act like it is.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:20 PM   #52
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To further this point. Not too long ago, Kietzman acknowledged his personal bias toward Carl because apparently he tried to get KK fired when he was working for Fox 4. Kietzman: "He tried to take my livelihood away from me!!!"

Thus his hatred for all things Carl, no matter what the man does.
Yet KK defends the team that revoked the press passes of Bob Fescoe and Rhonda Moss because they were doing their job....

What about their livelihood?
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #53
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Carl had a show years ago when he was trying to get attendance UP. After he did that, he crawled back into his hole. He only makes enough "reasonable" decisions to make a lot of you think he's going something good. Forget KK's BS, when are you going to smell Carl's? And quit sticking up for this guy. And to the person who was questioning KK's comparison between Glass and it was the Hunts, not Carl, you made his point for him. They FIRED Baird for doing horrible. Made a change.
No one is sticking up for Carl. I said this in my first post: the guy needs to be replaced.

Kietzman's line of argumentation was embarrassingly flawed. He touched a hot-button issue: Fire Carl! Now the masses mindlessly nod yes, yes, yes...

KK is just a guy who happens to have a radio show. He can be difficult to listen to because he doesn't research his takes. Oops, sorry, more than 30 minutes. This is what separates KK from Petro.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #54
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I couldn't care less about the preseason.

And one bad game is one bad game. We played like poo 1st game last year as well and still made the playoffs. I'm just not ready to throw this season in the trash after less than 72 hours. Honestly.

I think not signing a vet QB to take the 3 spot was a mistake. We needed some kind of vet to help with croyle and even a guy like Printers has something to contribute. Canadian FB or not.

There are still a number of areas where we need talent but when one compares what we've added and what we've needed...hot Carl hasn't done too bad the last two years.
Cincy is a hell of a lot better than Houston....

Honestly where are the Chiefs talented where are they above the NFL average? There's only a couple of positions, at some we are far below.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #55
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That just shows how ruthless Carl really is. Why would he **** with another man's livelihood, especially when your some fat cat, who gets a free pass in this town. **** Carl.

Carl's "ruthlessness" is simply his bully-like reactions due to his personal insecurities about his ability to capably perform his duties. He's used his bully pulpit for 19 years to attempt to intimidate the local media (not just Kietzman) becuase he doesn't like it when someone calls inot question his personnel record and management abilities.

IMO his insecurities are quite transparent, and his childish bullying tactics are one of the primary reasons I want to see his ass canned.
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:21 PM   #56
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That just shows how ruthless Carl really is. Why would he **** with another man's livelihood, especially when your some fat cat, who gets a free pass in this town. **** Carl.
That’s only if you believe KK, and he’s done nothing to warrant credibility here.
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That just shows how ruthless Carl really is. Why would he **** with another man's livelihood, especially when your some fat cat, who gets a free pass in this town. **** Carl.
Because he sucks at his job? Why should KK mess with Carl's livelihood? The rent's expensive for the penthouse.
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No one is sticking up for Carl. I said this in my first post: the guy needs to be replaced.

Kietzman's line of argumentation was embarrassingly flawed. He touched a hot-button issue: Fire Carl! Now the masses mindlessly nod yes, yes, yes...

KK is just a guy who happens to have a radio show. He can be difficult to listen to because he doesn't research his takes. Oops, sorry, more than 30 minutes. This is what separates KK from Petro.
Again - totally agreed.

My point exactly.
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I don't think there's any question that Carl tries to bully the local media into reporting what he wants....
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Old 09-11-2007, 02:24 PM   #60
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I don't like Keitzman but to act like because it's the general coming from him means you ignore it isn't right either...

The Chiefs deserve to be raked over the coals, this might be the first year a lot of the blind homer fans actually listen to it. There's no hiding what's going on right now.
The Chiefs do deserve to be raked over the coals. Carl's motives should be questioned. But this offseason everyone was excited about getting rid of so much of the old weight and getting youth on the team. There were numerous call for a 2 or 3 win season. We wanted a change.

Well.... change is here, and now people are bitching about what they were begging for last year.
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