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FloridaMan88 · 06-21-2014, 10:11 AM

Leawood man faces citation for putting Little Free Library in his front yard

http://pvpost.com/2014/06/18/leawood...ont-yard-28711

A north Leawood man will have to decide today whether to remove a Little Free Library he recently installed in his front yard — or face a citation from the city.

Brian Collins, who lives near the intersection of 89th Street and Ensley Lane, installed a Little Free Library his father-in-law had given his wife for her birthday around three weeks ago. Collins went out of town for a few days last week, and when he arrived home, he found a letter from the city’s codes enforcement officer informing him that the Little Free Library was not permitted under city code because it was a “detached structure” and that he had until June 19 to come into compliance.

“Your take a book leave a book structure must be attached to the house,” the letter read.

Collins emailed Leawood Mayor Peggy Dunn about the issue, and requested that the city consider amending the municipal code to allow Little Free Libraries. Dunn referred the matter to City Administrator Scott Lambers, who responded with an email saying that the detached structure ordinance was “a common prohibition for cities.”

“I would suggest that citizens who are interested in this endeavor contact the Johnson County Library to see if this is an activity that the Library would permit to occur on their premises,” Lambers wrote.

That response irked Collins, who pointed out that the whole point of the Little Free Libraries was that they were right in their neighborhoods and easily accessible from the street.

“If it’s attached to the house, people aren’t going to come to it,” he said. “And why would you put a Little Free Library at a big library?”

Collins said he hasn’t made a final decision about whether to pull his LFL or not. He said he thinks he’s “ready to be cited. I’m ready to take it to court.”

“We’ve gotten so much positive response to it since we put it out,” he said. “The neighbors love it. If I lived three blocks to the north [in Prairie Village], this wouldn’t be an issue.”

Mr. Laz · 06-21-2014, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

And if your neighbor decides to turn his yard into a pig farm, you're ok with that I assume.

Ms Dunn ... Peggy Dunn ... is that you?

no common sense at all

Pitt Gorilla · 06-21-2014, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

Ms Dunn ... Peggy Dunn ... is that you?

no common sense at all

To be fair, the person responding actually was fine with a pig farm.

cosmo20002 · 06-21-2014, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Its their property not mine why should I be able to tell them what they can do with it? I can sell mine to them or someone else or I could make a contract with them in a mutual exchange.

Good luck selling your house located next to a mini-pig farm.

There's good reasons for zoning laws and city ordinances regarding residential property.

cosmo20002 · 06-21-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

There's quite a gap between a pig farm and a box full of books in someone's yard. That box is most likely not going to create an odor or make noise that could be construed as a nuisance.

I'm not arguing against the box.
GloucesterChief said everyone should be able to do whatever they want with their property, which is ridiculous. I think people who say stuff like that have never had a neighbor. Or, they are the neighbor that everyone ****ing hates.

Mr. Laz · 06-21-2014, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

Good luck selling your house located next to a mini-pig farm.

There's good reasons for zoning laws and city ordinances regarding residential property.

so if a kid sets up a lemonade stand on the sidewalk they should have to have a business license?

If you go over the speed limit 1 mph you should get the same fine as 50 mph?

If a kid cuts the corner and walks on someone's front lawn the should get charged with trespassing?

laws are laws afterall

Just Passin' By · 06-21-2014, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

There's good reasons for zoning laws and city ordinances regarding residential property.

No, with very few exceptions, there really aren't.

cosmo20002 · 06-21-2014, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

so if a kid sets up a lemonade stand on the sidewalk they should have to have a business license?

If you go over the speed limit 1 mph you should get the same fine as 50 mph?

If a kid cuts the corner and walks on someone's front lawn the should get charged with trespassing?

laws are laws afterall

I'm not sure where all this is coming from...
Do you think there should be any restrictions on property use? Specifically property in a residential neighborhood? If your answer is yes, then you agree with me.

FloridaMan88 · 06-21-2014, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'm not sure where all this is coming from...
Do you think there should be any restrictions on property use? Specifically property in a residential neighborhood? If your answer is yes, then you agree with me.

Isn't that the purpose of a Homeowners Association?

Mr. Laz · 06-21-2014, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002

I'm not sure where all this is coming from...
Do you think there should be any restrictions on property use? Specifically property in a residential neighborhood? If your answer is yes, then you agree with me.

common sense

you seems to lack understanding of the concept

jspchief · 06-21-2014, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by hometeam

The spirit of the ordinance was not to prevent a free book stand.

Truth of the matter is, they should appeal to the city/mayor whoever that it is not a structure, and it is something like a lawn ornament or the like.

Your logic and common sense have no place here.

Fairplay · 06-21-2014, 03:37 PM

I have to side with cosmo on this one.

jspchief · 06-21-2014, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, with very few exceptions, there really aren't.

Really?

jspchief · 06-21-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

Isn't that the purpose of a Homeowners Association?

No. It's the purpose of city ordinances. Homeowners associations just take it a step further.

Fairplay · 06-21-2014, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

No, with very few exceptions, there really aren't.

Heh

**Dave Lane** · 06-21-2014, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief

Its their property not mine why should I be able to tell them what they can do with it? I can sell mine to them or someone else or I could make a contract with them in a mutual exchange.

Ok that's taking it completely to extreme.

06-21-2014, 10:11 AM
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $3122906	Leawood humiliates itself Leawood man faces citation for putting Little Free Library in his front yard http://pvpost.com/2014/06/18/leawood...ont-yard-28711 A north Leawood man will have to decide today whether to remove a Little Free Library he recently installed in his front yard — or face a citation from the city. Brian Collins, who lives near the intersection of 89th Street and Ensley Lane, installed a Little Free Library his father-in-law had given his wife for her birthday around three weeks ago. Collins went out of town for a few days last week, and when he arrived home, he found a letter from the city’s codes enforcement officer informing him that the Little Free Library was not permitted under city code because it was a “detached structure” and that he had until June 19 to come into compliance. “Your take a book leave a book structure must be attached to the house,” the letter read. Collins emailed Leawood Mayor Peggy Dunn about the issue, and requested that the city consider amending the municipal code to allow Little Free Libraries. Dunn referred the matter to City Administrator Scott Lambers, who responded with an email saying that the detached structure ordinance was “a common prohibition for cities.” “I would suggest that citizens who are interested in this endeavor contact the Johnson County Library to see if this is an activity that the Library would permit to occur on their premises,” Lambers wrote. That response irked Collins, who pointed out that the whole point of the Little Free Libraries was that they were right in their neighborhoods and easily accessible from the street. “If it’s attached to the house, people aren’t going to come to it,” he said. “And why would you put a Little Free Library at a big library?” Collins said he hasn’t made a final decision about whether to pull his LFL or not. He said he thinks he’s “ready to be cited. I’m ready to take it to court.” “We’ve gotten so much positive response to it since we put it out,” he said. “The neighbors love it. If I lived three blocks to the north [in Prairie Village], this wouldn’t be an issue.”
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