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Old 02-21-2005, 09:24 AM   Topic Starter
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Cable modem question
I have been renting a modem from Cox for $10/month which I know is crazy. I am looking to buy a new cable modem. Anyone have an idea as to what kind I should buy? Where to buy it? Cox does have a list of approved modems, but there are a bunch. I would like to get the best I can and am not that worried about the lowest price.

Thanks for any info.
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:31 AM   #2
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:38 AM   #3
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My only recommendation is to buy a "bridge" modem.

One that doesn't do the actual NATing itself. This way you can put whatever router/firewall device you want in place and change it out whenever you want.

I had a Motorola SBG1000 which I thought was really cool at the time (router/firewall/wireless/printer server/POTS networking/etc.) and I dropped it after a year because the firewall wasn't as customizable as I would have liked. I should have realized this since I was moving from a Checkpoint and Raptor combo, but I was just getting lazy.
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:41 AM   #4
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My only recommendation is to buy a "bridge" modem.

One that doesn't do the actual NATing itself. This way you can put whatever router/firewall device you want in place and change it out whenever you want.

I had a Motorola SBG1000 which I thought was really cool at the time (router/firewall/wireless/printer server/POTS networking/etc.) and I dropped it after a year because the firewall wasn't as customizable as I would have liked. I should have realized this since I was moving from a Checkpoint and Raptor combo, but I was just getting lazy.
I am very computer illiterate. I turn it on and do my thing. I would not be doing any customizing...altering...anything like that. Looking for a "plug it in and use it" type of modem. No idea what a "bridge" modem would be.
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Old 02-21-2005, 09:48 AM   #5
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If you want simple and easy, go with the Linksys WCG200.

It has a DOCSIS 2.0 cable modem built-in, and has a NAT router, firewall, 4-port switch, and wireless.
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:05 AM   #6
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If you want simple and easy, go with the Linksys WCG200.

It has a DOCSIS 2.0 cable modem built-in, and has a NAT router, firewall, 4-port switch, and wireless.
I just moved away from a similar setup because most of those devices don't allow custom port/protocol rulesets, actual non-NAT'd public IPs on systems, and wireless repeating.

But, based on the "simple" thing, none of this may be relevant.
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:37 AM   #7
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I just moved away from a similar setup because most of those devices don't allow custom port/protocol rulesets, actual non-NAT'd public IPs on systems, and wireless repeating.

But, based on the "simple" thing, none of this may be relevant.
The WCG200 supports custom port and protocol rulesets, including static (1:1) NAT, hide-NAT (1-to-many NAT), PAT, and port triggering (listening on a port and translating that traffic to a different destination port).

The one thing it doesn't support is full routing (passing traffic to interior hosts that are not NAT'd) and I can't for the life of me figure out why the hell you'd want to do that, unless you're putting up a honeypot for people to hack.
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Old 02-21-2005, 10:40 AM   #8
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The WCG200 supports custom port and protocol rulesets, including static (1:1) NAT, hide-NAT (1-to-many NAT), PAT, and port triggering (listening on a port and translating that traffic to a different destination port).

The one thing it doesn't support is full routing (passing traffic to interior hosts that are not NAT'd) and I can't for the life of me figure out why the hell you'd want to do that, unless you're putting up a honeypot for people to hack.
Or running security vulnerability detection tools.

NAT and PAT really screw up the results on those.

EDIT: I haven't tried the WCG200, but not supporting outside IP addresses means I need a bridge so I can use a hub AFTER the modem for a firewall and external device. Also, I've had trouble finding a device that supports multiple public IP addresses. On DSL I ran a ton of servers, ever since I moved to cable I've had to "jerry rig" external communications.
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Old 02-21-2005, 11:51 AM   #9
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Or running security vulnerability detection tools.

NAT and PAT really screw up the results on those.

EDIT: I haven't tried the WCG200, but not supporting outside IP addresses means I need a bridge so I can use a hub AFTER the modem for a firewall and external device. Also, I've had trouble finding a device that supports multiple public IP addresses. On DSL I ran a ton of servers, ever since I moved to cable I've had to "jerry rig" external communications.
Exactly. If you're doing some kind of security testing, it makes sense to have machines fully exposed to the Internet (ie. no NAT). The best solution for that is to get a broadband modem and plug it into a standard IP router.
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Old 02-22-2005, 11:16 AM   #10
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The one thing it doesn't support is full routing (passing traffic to interior hosts that are not NAT'd) and I can't for the life of me figure out why the hell you'd want to do that, unless you're putting up a honeypot for people to hack.
Are you talking about something like a DMZ? Because it's funny you mention that. I use my router's DMZ for my Playstation 2. And really, who would want to try and hack a PS2?

And speaking of D-Link. I used to have a D-Link DI-604 router. It had a DMZ but that damn thing would not function like a true DMZ. I could not host games on certain games like Call Of Duty:Finest Hour or Madden or even hook up to the host of a game at least half the time. I called their tech support and the dude I got had a middle eastern accent. Their support is probably located in India or Pakistan. And the tech didn't even know what a DMZ is.
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Old 02-22-2005, 12:45 PM   #11
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Are you talking about something like a DMZ? Because it's funny you mention that. I use my router's DMZ for my Playstation 2. And really, who would want to try and hack a PS2?

And speaking of D-Link. I used to have a D-Link DI-604 router. It had a DMZ but that damn thing would not function like a true DMZ. I could not host games on certain games like Call Of Duty:Finest Hour or Madden or even hook up to the host of a game at least half the time. I called their tech support and the dude I got had a middle eastern accent. Their support is probably located in India or Pakistan. And the tech didn't even know what a DMZ is.
No, a DMZ is a sandbox that sits between the trusted network (your LAN) and the untrusted network (the Internet). It's generally used for hosts or services that need to be exposed to the outside world, but in a way that is slightly more secure (traffic still passes through a firewall).

DMZ's generally use NAT.

What he's talking about is exposing machines fully to the Internet, ie. plugging your DSL modem right into your PC with no personal firewall or anything running.
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