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Old 09-25-2012, 09:07 AM   #1
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McCluster had 100 more yards last season than Tate has in his career.
As a bloody running back, which doesn't make a lick of sense, and you know it.

As an actual wide receiver? No contest, Golden Tate blows Dex away.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:13 AM   #2
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As a bloody running back, which doesn't make a lick of sense, and you know it.

As an actual wide receiver? No contest, Golden Tate blows Dex away.


Tate has all of 36 more receiving yards in his career than McCluster.

By that logic Tate is better than Frank Gore because since he has been in the league he has more receiving yards than Gore. After all, as a true WR Tate is better.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:26 AM   #3
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Tate has all of 36 more receiving yards in his career than McCluster.

By that logic Tate is better than Frank Gore because since he has been in the league he has more receiving yards than Gore. After all, as a true WR Tate is better.
You cannot include Dex's numbers as a RB.

Completely unfair.

As a WR, Dex has 34 career catches in 14 games, and probably 1/3 of those came with him coming from the backfield in 2010.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:33 AM   #4
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You cannot include Dex's numbers as a RB.

Completely unfair.

As a WR, Dex has 34 career catches in 14 games, and probably 1/3 of those came with him coming from the backfield in 2010.
What are you talking about?

Career receiving yards:

McCluster - 679 yds
Tate - 715 yds

It doesn't matter where he is listed as a starter one bit. What am I missing?

As a receiver, Calvin Johnson is better than Ray Rice. But who would you rather have?
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:42 AM   #5
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What are you talking about?

Career receiving yards:

McCluster - 679 yds
Tate - 715 yds

It doesn't matter where he is listed as a starter one bit. What am I missing?
The debate is who is better as a WR.

Comparing RB receiving yards to WR receiving yards is comparing apples to oranges.

Dex sucks as a WR because he's not very good at beating CBs and is useless going down the field.

He can produce some receiving yards as a RB because he's matched up on linebackers, can catch screens, etc.

That doesn't translate to his play as a WR.

He has about 300 yards as an actual WR, doing WR things, running routes. Period.

End of discussion.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:55 AM   #6
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The debate is who is better as a WR.

Comparing RB receiving yards to WR receiving yards is comparing apples to oranges.

Dex sucks as a WR because he's not very good at beating CBs and is useless going down the field.

He can produce some receiving yards as a RB because he's matched up on linebackers, can catch screens, etc.

That doesn't translate to his play as a WR.

He has about 300 yards as an actual WR, doing WR things, running routes. Period.

End of discussion.
Nobody is arguing who the better true WR is! You just now invented that it is all of the sudden a debate about the better WR because you failed at who the better player is. You said Tate > McCluster without the caveat "as a WR."

So I will say again, Calvin Johnson is better than Ray Rice at doing WR things, but Ray Rice is still the better football player that most people would prefer to have.
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Old 09-25-2012, 09:58 AM   #7
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You said Tate > McCluster without the caveat "as a WR."
It isn't freaking IMPLIED?

I saw that caveat the minute I read it, before it was ever explicitly stated.
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Nobody is arguing who the better true WR is!
Oh, I am. Sorry. They are both wide receivers, so that's kind of important.
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You cannot include Dex's numbers as a RB.

Completely unfair.

As a WR, Dex has 34 career catches in 14 games, and probably 1/3 of those came with him coming from the backfield in 2010.
Dude, I mean seriously who gives a flying **** if he's catching passes out of the backfield or in the slot, as long as he contributing to helping make plays and helping this team thats all that matters. There is so much more you can do with McCluster. He can run, catch, return kicks, play the slot, create mismatches, he's a utility player that can cause some serious problems for defenses.
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Dude, I mean seriously who gives a flying **** if he's catching passes out of the backfield or in the slot, as long as he contributing to helping make plays and helping this team thats all that matters. There is so much more you can do with McCluster. He can run, catch, return kicks, play the slot, create mismatches, he's a utility player that can cause some serious problems for defenses.
What's great about Dex is he sucks as a kick returner and doesn't do that anymore.

But idiots like you love to bring that up as a plus for him.
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What's great about Dex is he sucks as a kick returner and doesn't do that anymore.

But idiots like you love to bring that up as a plus for him.
No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz.
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No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz.
LOL WUT?

Javier Arenas was one of the top 8-10 punt returners in the ****ing league last year Roy...
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No he's not doin that anymore due to their love for Arenas. I'd rather have McCluster returning kicks and punts instead of Arenas. Arenas has been complete shit as a returner. Wanna talk bout wasted pick, Arenas definately is, all he is good at is blitzing the corner on a nickle blitz.
They're both fairly shitty Pioli 2nd round picks.
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