Who does the Planet want the Chiefs to pick at #3? - Page 3

ILChief · 03-07-2009, 09:14 PM

who do you want

ChiefsCountry · 03-08-2009, 04:47 PM

Everrette Brown is the pass rusher but I think #6 is his ceiling where he could go.

philfree · 03-08-2009, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

People act like Aaron Curry is a surefire can't miss player. I suggest they check out the history of the draft. The safest picks are often no safer than any other pick.

He's basically Derrick Johnson in a weaker draft class for defensive players.

He's a totally different type player then DJ. IMO people like Curry because they think he's the best player in the draft not because they think he's a safe pick.

PhilFree

Basileus777 · 03-08-2009, 05:02 PM

I didn't really get to see Raji play enough to really get a grip on how I feel he'll pan out as a NT. If he's a legit NT, I'd take him, reach or not. I don't believe trading down is feasible.

old_geezer · 03-08-2009, 05:09 PM

At this moment (and I say this because I'm not sure what Pioli will do on the player front before the actual draft) my choices would be;

1. Stafford if he is there at #3, and look for a possible trade partner. But IMO he is the best player available and we don't leave him there for someone else.

2. Aaron Curry - best defensive player available and fixing our defense is going to take more than 1 year or 1 player.

3. B J Raji would not upset me too much if we indeed are going to switch to a 3-4 this year.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-08-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

He's a totally different type player then DJ.

Please back this up.

Mr. Krab · 03-08-2009, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Please back this up.

Just watch Curry play

He might be similar in size but he plays much bigger and more physical. My opinion.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-08-2009, 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

Just watch Curry play

He might be similar in size but he plays much bigger and more physical. My opinion.

Same size.
Same speed.
Same measureables
Same role in college.
Same stats.

Played against weaker competition.

There was one negative on DJ, and that was his ability to shed blocks. Curry does that better than him.

However, DJ is a much more fluid and is better in coverage.

Other than that, they are remarkably similar.

Another player that he compares almost identically to is DJ Williams.

Mr. Krab · 03-08-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Same size.
Same speed.
Same measureables
Same role in college.
Same stats.

Played against weaker competition.

There was one negative on DJ, and that was his ability to shed blocks. Curry does that better than him.

However, DJ is a much more fluid and is better in coverage.

Other than that, they are remarkably similar.

Another player that he compares almost identically to is DJ Williams.

You are looking at stats and i am going by watching them play. I don't know what to tell you but i don't find them similar at all.

Sam Hall · 03-08-2009, 05:42 PM

Interesting stat: Ray Lewis has 28 career interceptions. Curry had six at Wake Forest and took three to the house.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 03-08-2009, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Krab's

You are looking at stats and i am going by watching them play. I don't know what to tell you but i don't find them similar at all.

How many Wake Forest games did you watch last year?

milkman · 03-08-2009, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sam Hall

Interesting stat: Ray Lewis has 28 career interceptions. Curry had six at Wake Forest and took three to the house.

Interceptions are usualy the reult of a bad pass, bad decison, or poor vision by the QB, and rarely the result of any great effort by the interceptor.

CaliforniaChief · 03-08-2009, 05:56 PM

The Curry phenomenon is media-driven. They like guys that are charismatic and do well in the combine. That's a smart kid getting good advice, about to get a good paycheck.

But for us, where we are today...we've gotta get a pass rush. Whether there's a gem at DE or Raji can get the kind of attention in the middle that allows other guys to get into the backfield, that seems to me to be our number one priority.

Spicy McHaggis · 03-08-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Interceptions are usualy the reult of a bad pass, bad decison, or poor vision by the QB, and rarely the result of any great effort by the interceptor.

So it wasn't Bartee's fault!

Man, I feel like an asshole now.

Sam Hall · 03-08-2009, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Interceptions are usualy the reult of a bad pass, bad decison, or poor vision by the QB, and rarely the result of any great effort by the interceptor.

I don't think the interceptions can be taken away from either player.

milkman · 03-08-2009, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis

So it wasn't Bartee's fault!

Man, I feel like an asshole now.

Clearly you have to be able to move your head and be in position to make the play, however, unless I'm mistaken, Greg Wesley led the Chiefs in interceptions at least once, if not twice.

So, I guess, based on that, we let a great player get away.

View Poll Results: Who do you want the Chiefs to take at #3?
Aaron Curry, LB, Wake Forest	49	37.69%
Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech	3	2.31%
Jason Smith, OT, Baylor	2	1.54%
B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College	17	13.08%
Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia	3	2.31%
Brian Orakpo, DE/OLB, Texas	1	0.77%
Trade Down	53	40.77%
Other (Please list)	2	1.54%
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CaliforniaChief #RIPAce Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: So Cal Casino cash: $12422899	The Curry phenomenon is media-driven. They like guys that are charismatic and do well in the combine. That's a smart kid getting good advice, about to get a good paycheck. But for us, where we are today...we've gotta get a pass rush. Whether there's a gem at DE or Raji can get the kind of attention in the middle that allows other guys to get into the backfield, that seems to me to be our number one priority.
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