Attn: Hi Def lovers - Page 6

**Skip Towne** · 12-20-2005, 08:37 PM

Now I have proof it is not my imagination. Today I did a 4 TV install with three standards and one Hi Def. As it happened, myself and the customer were able to stand at a point where we could see both the Hi Def and one of the standards at the same time. The Hi Def was hooked to a big screen Mitsubishi and the standard to a 27" Sony. I told him about you clowns worshipping the Hi Def and asked for his opinion. He agreed the standard was every bit as good as the Hi Def. But he said it did improve the picture on the Mitsubishi big screen by about 10% over the Dish Notwork he had on it before I arrived.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2005, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

DirecTV.com lists 509 as "HBO HDTV"

I don't really think there is a huge difference on the movie channels.

Try Discovery HD, Skip.

I had HD through Time Warner a couple of years ago. Most of HBOs programming wasn't true HD. Some of it was plain SD...

**morphius** · 12-21-2005, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigChiefDave

Sorry, Skip. But that is complete BS.
The difference is HUGE! Something tells me you didn't have the HDTV on a HD program/channel...

See, HD Judge Judy doesn't look any better then regular directtv svideo Judge Judy.

htismaqe · 12-21-2005, 10:56 AM

I hear so many people complain about HDTV without understanding how it can be influenced by the input/source, the conneciton, and the output.

My dad bought a 42" plasma and was disappointed. I spent 45 minutes changing out cables and programming his TV and receiver and now he calls me in the middle of football games and says "This is awesome!"

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2005, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

I have HiDef and I tell you that I am not all that impresssed people sound like it is some sort of night and day difference. On my brand new LCD 52 inch Mitsubishi there is a barely discernable difference, yes it is slightly better but if I did not have tons of disposable income there is no way I could justify the difference. In that regard Skip is right. The only way I was able to tell the difference was to put the High Def ESPN in the main picture and the regular version of the same ESPN channel in the PIP. Yes I could tell by doing it but I think you all are comparing apples and oranges somehow to see some sort of huge difference.

WOW. You guys are just old then. From now on, Skip and Vlad's opinion on HD is null...

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by C-Mac

FWIW LCD is the worst picture of the CRT, DLP, LCD, Plasma group

Yeah, thats not true...

WilliamTheIrish · 12-21-2005, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

I hear so many people complain about HDTV without understanding how it can be influenced by the input/source, the conneciton, and the output.

My dad bought a 42" plasma and was disappointed. I spent 45 minutes changing out cables and programming his TV and receiver and now he calls me in the middle of football games and says "This is awesome!"

Hah!

Dad's are great.

KCTitus · 12-21-2005, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

My dad bought a 42" plasma and was disappointed. I spent 45 minutes changing out cables and programming his TV and receiver and now he calls me in the middle of football games and says "This is awesome!"

You installed a DVI cable from the HD reciever to the set, I bet.

htismaqe · 12-21-2005, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

You installed a DVI cable from the HD reciever to the set, I bet.

Yep. And RGB component for his DVD player.

The dude that installed his TV and DirecTV used RCA composite cables for everything.

KCTitus · 12-21-2005, 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. And RGB component for his DVD player.

The dude that installed his TV and DirecTV used RCA composite cables for everything.

Wow...RCA cables...

**HemiEd** · 12-21-2005, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

You installed a DVI cable from the HD reciever to the set, I bet.

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. And RGB component for his DVD player.

The dude that installed his TV and DirecTV used RCA composite cables for everything.

Mine uses an HDMI cable.

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2005, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

My dad bought a 42" plasma and was disappointed. I spent 45 minutes changing out cables and programming his TV and receiver and now he calls me in the middle of football games and says "This is awesome!"

**BigMeatballDave** · 12-21-2005, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Yep. And RGB component for his DVD player.

The dude that installed his TV and DirecTV used RCA composite cables for everything.

What a tool...

htismaqe · 12-21-2005, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KCTitus

Wow...RCA cables...

Probably the same kind Skip is using.

KCTitus · 12-21-2005, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Probably the same kind Skip is using.

Barret · 12-21-2005, 12:15 PM

Well thought i would throw my .10 cents in here,

Just got a Toshiba 51in projection a few weeks ago and these are the things I have noticed....

1: Cabling is very important. I use the HD composite wiring from my DVR to the TV. Very good imaging where as the S-video from my dvd to the tv is a small downgrade. Was thinking of going with the HDMI wiring for the dvd since I went into Sears and they had a $145 Sony hdmi dvd player and a cheapy $40 dvd player playing the exact same thing split screen on a plasma screen and you can see the crispness of the hdmi. I feel Cabling is very important.

2: This might be a little bit older information but there isnt a "standard" put out for HDTV as of yet. Standard meaning that some tv stations will send out an hd signal not in the 1024 format. From what I remember Discovery sends it out in the 1024 where as ABC and ESPN are in the 900 - 800 range where as CBS or some other channel is sending out its broadcast in a letterbox size. All I am saying is you have to be carefull in what you are looking at. I turn to the Discovery channel or one of those INHD channels and they are showing some show called "Equator" and I am stunned at some of the visuals. But even watching like an HBO HD movie and you will notice it is better but might not be that much better due to how it was filmed.

3: the Type of TV is important, With the projection I can see why some people dont like it since you do need to be in front of the tv at the correct angle. For Movies, I would recommend the projection but for sporting events where you have a ton of people over and not everyone can be at the correct angle to view the tv then going with the plasma or LCD is a better option

12-20-2005, 08:37 PM
Skip Towne Supporter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: T-Town Casino cash: $10004900	Attn: Hi Def lovers Now I have proof it is not my imagination. Today I did a 4 TV install with three standards and one Hi Def. As it happened, myself and the customer were able to stand at a point where we could see both the Hi Def and one of the standards at the same time. The Hi Def was hooked to a big screen Mitsubishi and the standard to a 27" Sony. I told him about you clowns worshipping the Hi Def and asked for his opinion. He agreed the standard was every bit as good as the Hi Def. But he said it did improve the picture on the Mitsubishi big screen by about 10% over the Dish Notwork he had on it before I arrived.
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12-21-2005, 10:56 AM	#78
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $10269900	I hear so many people complain about HDTV without understanding how it can be influenced by the input/source, the conneciton, and the output. My dad bought a 42" plasma and was disappointed. I spent 45 minutes changing out cables and programming his TV and receiver and now he calls me in the middle of football games and says "This is awesome!"
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12-21-2005, 12:15 PM	#90
Barret Still Lurking Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: East Texas Casino cash: $4123790	Well thought i would throw my .10 cents in here, Just got a Toshiba 51in projection a few weeks ago and these are the things I have noticed.... 1: Cabling is very important. I use the HD composite wiring from my DVR to the TV. Very good imaging where as the S-video from my dvd to the tv is a small downgrade. Was thinking of going with the HDMI wiring for the dvd since I went into Sears and they had a $145 Sony hdmi dvd player and a cheapy $40 dvd player playing the exact same thing split screen on a plasma screen and you can see the crispness of the hdmi. I feel Cabling is very important. 2: This might be a little bit older information but there isnt a "standard" put out for HDTV as of yet. Standard meaning that some tv stations will send out an hd signal not in the 1024 format. From what I remember Discovery sends it out in the 1024 where as ABC and ESPN are in the 900 - 800 range where as CBS or some other channel is sending out its broadcast in a letterbox size. All I am saying is you have to be carefull in what you are looking at. I turn to the Discovery channel or one of those INHD channels and they are showing some show called "Equator" and I am stunned at some of the visuals. But even watching like an HBO HD movie and you will notice it is better but might not be that much better due to how it was filmed. 3: the Type of TV is important, With the projection I can see why some people dont like it since you do need to be in front of the tv at the correct angle. For Movies, I would recommend the projection but for sporting events where you have a ton of people over and not everyone can be at the correct angle to view the tv then going with the plasma or LCD is a better option
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