Football Pats Cheating Comfirmed - Page 16

PizzaDoughz · 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

Discuss.

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-21-2015, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant

He'll end with an asterisk on all of his accomplishments.

Riiiiight! LOL

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-21-2015, 09:45 AM

Who knew that doctoring footballs would ever be viewed as more aggregious than PEDs or other drug use?

This is hilarious to me.

**Donger** · 01-21-2015, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Who knew that doctoring footballs would ever be viewed as more aggregious than PEDs or other drug use?

This is hilarious to me.

I'm not sure why you think they are. Don't those violations carry similar punishments?

Also, this would be the second cheating offense.

Simply Red · 01-21-2015, 09:53 AM

If it were the Chiefs deflating balls the whole team would be buried under the Abandoned Independence Jail house, ALIVE!

Wildcat2005 · 01-21-2015, 09:54 AM

I think people harping about the impact of the deflated footballs in the AFC Championship game are missing the point
There is a much bigger picture to look at

This is the second time the same organization has been busted for cheating
It is beyond naïve to think this is the only game something like the deflated footballs have been used
They won by 35 points so it is not a big deal, but who is to say they did not use the same tactics against the Ravens?
A game which they barely won

This just signifies that an organization that already has been punished for cheating, continues to do so
They have a pattern of blatant disrespect towards the integrity of the game

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-21-2015, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

I'm not sure why you think they are. Don't those violations carry similar punishments?
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Seriously. How often do we have this much discussion over PEDs?

**Donger** · 01-21-2015, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Seriously. How often do we have this much discussion over PEDs?

I don't know, but I think there have been plenty of threads about PEDs.

**ptlyon** · 01-21-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005

They have a pattern of blatant disrespect towards the integrity of the game

Sounds like every game the Chiefs play

**BigMeatballDave** · 01-21-2015, 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Donger

Also, this would be the second cheating offense.

You'd have to prove intent. You can't and there is nothing that suggests using an underinflated ball gives you an advantage.

If so, wouldn't all QBs do it all the time?

SPchief · 01-21-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

You'd have to prove intent. You can't and there is nothing that suggests using an underinflated ball gives you an advantage.

If so, wouldn't all QBs do it all the time?

So this happened just for the hell of it?

**Donger** · 01-21-2015, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

You'd have to prove intent. You can't and there is nothing that suggests using an underinflated ball gives you an advantage.

If so, wouldn't all QBs do it all the time?

People keep saying that proof can't be had, but the NFL apparently had proof that the Patriots intentionally taped during SpyGate, but "misinterpreted the rules." Brady is also on record as preferring a deflated ball. I doubt that he stated that because it puts him at a disadvantage, right?

As for specific intent, as I understand it, the refs check the balls 2 hours before the game, and then the balls go back into the hands of the team. So, those 11 balls were adjusted while in the hands of the Patriots. Are you suggesting that they didn't intend to deflate them? All 11 just magically deflated?

Hootie · 01-21-2015, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Seriously. How often do we have this much discussion over PEDs?

Bonds was vilified and had syringes thrown at him while he was playing a game ...

Now, if they get caught it's a 50 game suspension. Twice? 100. Third time? Gone.

Deflate-gate didn't win them the AFCCG, we all know that. It's the fact New England has decided they won't comply by the rules if they think they'll get away with it, got caught again, and now they'll have to pay a steep price.

If Payton sat out a year for bountygate ... well, see ya BB

and Tom should be ashamed of himself for his radio reaction where he blatantly lied and said "now he's heard it all!"

They're all scumbags.

**petegz28** · 01-21-2015, 10:04 AM

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Per the NFL rulebook, each team provides game officials with 12 footballs before the game, and the balls are required to be inflated between 12½ and 13½ pounds per square inch. The referee inspects the game balls 2 hours and 15 minutes before kickoff, places a special marking on each ball that passes inspection, and hands the approved balls to attendants on each team, who are supposed to maintain custody of the balls on each sideline.

If this happened then I think it's rather easy to say this was intentionally done by NE. Or the Refs are in on the gig, one of the two.

**Mr. Flopnuts** · 01-21-2015, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wildcat2005

I think people harping about the impact of the deflated footballs in the AFC Championship game are missing the point
There is a much bigger picture to look at

This is the second time the same organization has been busted for cheating
It is beyond naïve to think this is the only game something like the deflated footballs have been used
They won by 35 points so it is not a big deal, but who is to say they did not use the same tactics against the Ravens?
A game which they barely won

This just signifies that an organization that already has been punished for cheating, continues to do so
They have a pattern of blatant disrespect towards the integrity of the game

Exactly.

Simply Red · 01-21-2015, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Tom should be ashamed of himself for his radio reaction where he blatantly lied and said "now he's heard it all!"

They're all scumbags.

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Wildcat2005 Starter Join Date: Nov 2012 Casino cash: $10005555	I think people harping about the impact of the deflated footballs in the AFC Championship game are missing the point There is a much bigger picture to look at This is the second time the same organization has been busted for cheating It is beyond naïve to think this is the only game something like the deflated footballs have been used They won by 35 points so it is not a big deal, but who is to say they did not use the same tactics against the Ravens? A game which they barely won This just signifies that an organization that already has been punished for cheating, continues to do so They have a pattern of blatant disrespect towards the integrity of the game
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