I'm now more sure than ever that Geno's going #1 overall.

[Direckshun]

From the free agency megathread:

Jason La Canfora ‏@JasonLaCanfora 28s

The Raiders are signing QB Seneca Wallace after working him out, Tyler Thigpen and perhaps others

The Raiders are signing up so many QBs that it is now virtually impossible they would take Geno Smith, even if he was available at #3 overall.

And they'd be theoretically passing on him for Seneca Wallace, Terrell (sp?) Pryor and maybe even Tyler ****ing Thigpen.

What's far more likely, is what some of us already suspect: they're not passing on him at all.

Like all of the QB-specific movement that immediately pre-dated the Geno visit in KC, I think the worst kept secret behind the closed doors of GM offices across the league is that Geno Smith is officially off the board at #1 overall.

I personally think it is down to the Eagles and the Jaguars. The Eagles want Geno as a developmental guy behind Vick, and the Jags, who are largely believed to like Geno, don't want to get jumped, a la Browns with Trent Richardson last year.

And then there's the least likely option, but one I think is still somehow alive: that the Chiefs actually think Geno fits what they're trying to do, and can be special, and that they will take Geno #1 overall if the compensation they are offered for trading down isn't sexy enough.

I may have my head up my ass, as I so often do. But I think the reasonable assumption to make from here on out that Geno Smith is known league-wide to be the first overall pick. The league almost certainly knows who the players for that pick are. And I'm willing to bet the league almost certainly assumes the Chiefs are not in the running for Geno. There has been absolutely no smoke for that particular fire to be real.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

**** you and your life time ban. I just don't care that much about you.

It isn't about getting me banned, you idiot. Its about having confidence in what you preach.


I'm saying right now, there is absolutely ZERO chance that the Chiefs draft either a pass rusher or a QB in the first round of this draft with the first selection of the draft.

I'm challenging you to a lifetime ban not because I want to see you gone, but because I'm THAT CONFIDENT in my analysis.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by O.city

Are you guys still debating the "mechanic"?


Jesus, people here need to use the universal ignore. It's really glorious.

You know they are, it says my name right there between the posts regardless if I am on ignore or not.

I learned this with Sauto when I ignored him.

Now you're just amusement trolling.

[MeatRock]

It doesn't matter how confident you think you are. You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of who the Chiefs will draft. Period. Your magical mechanic PHD cannot help you here. You're all speculation.

I'm telling you that in today's game, the QB and pass rusher is the smart move at 1.1. Dorsey told you and everyone else that they will not just draft for need. They will take the best player available.

[O.city]

There won't be any trading down either.

[ChiefAshhole20]

I just simply can't understand the notion that we shouldn't draft a QB first overall because he isn't worth it, but would rather address the position 3 years down the road when we can no longer get quality play out of him and are forced to pick up another retread QB (which apparently is the absolute worst solution possible according to CP). This is our way out from QB purgatory people... If we draft Geno, that is the end of our QB troubles for years to come, if we don't, prepare to trade for Josh Freeman or Andy Dalton in a few years.

[O.city]

I wouldn't have been upset trading for Freeman this year. IIRC, there was some talk about it.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

I just simply can't understand the notion that we shouldn't draft a QB first overall because he isn't worth it, but would rather address the position 3 years down the road when we can no longer get quality play out of him and are forced to pick up another retread QB (which apparently is the absolute worst solution possible according to CP). This is our way out from QB purgatory people... If we draft Geno, that is the end of our QB troubles for years to come, if we don't, prepare to trade for Josh Freeman or Andy Dalton in a few years.

Drafting Geno Smith does not guarantee anything other than the Chiefs tried.

[TribalElder]

AHHHHHHHH FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

what will we do on the 25th?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

It doesn't matter how confident you think you are. You have absolutely ZERO knowledge of who the Chiefs will draft. Period. Your magical mechanic PHD cannot help you here. You're all speculation.

I'm telling you that in today's game, the QB and pass rusher is the smart move at 1.1. Dorsey told you and everyone else that they will not just draft for need. They will take the best player available.

1. Zero knowledge of who the Chiefs will draft? According to whom? Remember, I was the first to call Andy Reid and quite a few other moves this off season. I do have insider information, and after that article came out that said the Chiefs had the draft selection narrowed down to 4 players, my insider came back and told me the number was actually 5.

2. All we are here, on this forum, is speculation. It just happens to be that I speculate a bit more logical than some of you thinking we'll draft a QB still.

3. Dorsey also didn't say that he would ONLY take the best player available, and anyone with an IQ over 75 knows that Dorsey saying that they won't draft just for need, but will take BPA, knows that he's trying not to show his cards too early or too often, so he keeps teams guessing on what HE will be doing, which brings up the trade value in an already shitty draft. The logical option here is to trade, but with such a bad draft for top picks, it would be the mark of a truly talented GM to be able to trade out of this position. So lets see what he can do. Worst case scenario, we stay at 1.1 don't draft a QB or pass rusher, and we look forward to our season.

Originally Posted by O.city

There won't be any trading down either.

Considering the Chiefs have had at least 3 teams contact them about a trade in this draft, I wouldn't be so certain.

[Gravedigger]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

It isn't about getting me banned, you idiot. Its about having confidence in what you preach.


I'm saying right now, there is absolutely ZERO chance that the Chiefs draft either a pass rusher or a QB in the first round of this draft with the first selection of the draft.

I'm challenging you to a lifetime ban not because I want to see you gone, but because I'm THAT CONFIDENT in my analysis.

Analysis is a pretty generous term for pissing in the wind and hoping it doesn't hit you in the face.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by ChiefAshhole20

I just simply can't understand the notion that we shouldn't draft a QB first overall because he isn't worth it, but would rather address the position 3 years down the road when we can no longer get quality play out of him and are forced to pick up another retread QB (which apparently is the absolute worst solution possible according to CP). This is our way out from QB purgatory people... If we draft Geno, that is the end of our QB troubles for years to come, if we don't, prepare to trade for Josh Freeman or Andy Dalton in a few years.

How can you say that drafting Geno is the end of our QB troubles for years?

Not a single talking head in the NFL right now thinks he could start right away, and most are calling him a project, some are even mocking him out of the 2nd round.

How would drafting a career backup, end our QB troubles?

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by Gravedigger

Analysis is a pretty generous term for pissing in the wind and hoping it doesn't hit you in the face.

That's why I like to measure the direction of the wind before I unzip.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You know they are, it says my name right there between the posts regardless if I am on ignore or not.

I learned this with Sauto when I ignored him.

Now you're just amusement trolling.

I assume O.City has super ignore, which automatically hides any post that directly quotes you or is posted by you.

And I'm not talking about, "This message is hidden because SNR is on your ignore list." It removes it completely from view. Like it never happened.

[Exoter175]

Originally Posted by SNR

I assume O.City has super ignore, which automatically hides any post that directly quotes you or is posted by you.

And I'm not talking about, "This message is hidden because SNR is on your ignore list." It removes it completely from view. Like it never happened.

He wouldn't do that though, I'm far too entertaining in argument.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Exoter175

You know they are, it says my name right there between the posts regardless if I am on ignore or not.

I learned this with Sauto when I ignored him.

Now you're just amusement trolling.

I jumped on CP on my phone without logging in, so I thought I'd take you off ignore long enough to respond to this.

With the universal ignore function, I don't have to read any of your drivel, or see anyone who quotes you. It's really glorious.


Anyway, carry on.