Chiefs Let's talk about the Chargers. - Page 8

Direckshun · 10-13-2014, 04:51 AM

There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes.

The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not.

I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release.

The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league.

This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle.

I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security.

The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight.

I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.

Direckshun · 10-14-2014, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Dude, it was 2 stupid calls.

AGAINST OUR SCRUBS IN A MEANINGLESS GAME FOR THE CHIEFS.

No shit.

ThaVirus · 10-14-2014, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Exoter175

A big reason why the Chargers are "so good" this year and Phillis is having such a "good season" is because they haven't faced a truly disruptive defense eye to eye yet. The "good" pass rushing defenses they have faced (Buffalo), they didn't even get a chance to "face" them because they neutralized the defense by scoring early, and they are a very, very solid 2nd and 3rd quarter team.

That being said, Kansas City is truly their "first" contest with a disruptive pass rush, and I expect the molten hot chargers to begin their cooling process as the year drives on, starting with the KC game.

They played the Seahawks AND the Cardinals.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-14-2014, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

They played the Seahawks AND the Cardinals.

Neither team looks anything like they did last season.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-14-2014, 07:40 AM

Also, the Chiefs are a shit ton better than any of us thought.

Three7s · 10-14-2014, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

Also, the Chiefs are a shit ton better than any of us thought.

I wouldn't say that, but they are better than I thought. Just not good enough to beat good teams.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-14-2014, 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I think we hang 40 on them like we did the Patriots.

Andy is a mastermind coming off a bye week. This team seems to play hard coming off a bad loss. Unfortunately they can't string two wins together so I expect the to lay an egg against the Rams where Austin Davis lights them up and this board explodes.

Dumb. They beat Miami and NE in back to back games

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-14-2014, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Three7s

I wouldn't say that, but they are better than I thought. Just not good enough to beat good teams.

I think NE is much better than we saw on Monday night.

Dunerdr · 10-14-2014, 08:11 AM

I think if they go out and hit them in the mouth early we have a chance. We've got to be physical with gates and these receivers though. Make Phyllis stand in the pocket for a second and let our front 7 do what they do.

EyePod · 10-14-2014, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Lonewolf Ed

If the Chiefs get outcoached by their own coaches again like they did against San Francisco, then there is no chance. But, if Andy and co. decide to play like they did against Miami and New England, it should be competitive. I just don't expect a win for KC in San Diego, but strange things sometimes happen in KC's favor.

Best way to stop a great QB is to run the damn ball successfully. Don't give him a chance to beat us (He will). *Insert joke about how many kids rivers has here*

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-14-2014, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr

I think if they go out and hit them in the mouth early we have a chance. We've got to be physical with gates and these receivers though. Make Phyllis stand in the pocket for a second and let our front 7 do what they do.

Watch the 1st half of this match up in Arrowhead last season.

Rivers busts out a whole 3 points until Hali and Houston go down.

Red Dawg · 10-14-2014, 08:15 AM

If we run the shit out of the ball and don't get all stupid with passing too much then we will win. With that being said it's still a long shot we win. SD is just better in most positions.

Aspengc8 · 10-14-2014, 08:21 AM

aggressive man/cover 1 and let sean smith cover gates.

**BigMeatballDave** · 10-14-2014, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Tuckdaddy

With that being said it's still a long shot we win. SD is just better in most positions.

What I saw vs Oakland begs to differ.

GoChargers · 10-14-2014, 08:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave

What I saw vs Oakland begs to differ.

If we're going by the worst possible one-game sample sizes, considering the Chiefs lost to the woeful Titans, this ought to be a blowout.

CallMeSquidwad · 10-14-2014, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Buck

Our o-line may be the worst graded o-line on PFF.

Our d-line is probably one of the lower graded d-lines too.

Manti Teo will be out. Reggie Walker will be out. Brandon Flowers will be out. Melvin Ingram will be out. Shareece Wright will be out (probably).

We will be missing 6-8 starters.

There's no reason why you shouldn't win, except Rivers.

Our O-line is one of our strongest units on the team, and PPF lost every bit of credibility they had left with me(which wasn't much) after they ranked Tannehill the 3rd ranked QB the week after our game.

10-13-2014, 04:51 AM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4313447	Let's talk about the Chargers. There's little doubt they have the league's best QB right now, as Philip Rivers is playing out of his mind. He's doing it with a damn good receiver corps, which features three WRs (Floyd, Allen, Royal) who are fast and run sharp, quick routes, which the Chiefs CBs struggle with, Marcus Cooper especially. And we still don't know what the Chiefs are going to do at the third CB spot to replace Chris Owens -- we might actually be trotting out Phillip Gaines. Yikes. The biggest reason Rivers is ripping the NFL a new asshole, of course, has been the resurgence of Antonio Gates, who is playing like it's 2008. Gates is uncoverable right now, so it doesn't really matter if we bring Eric Berry back or not. I don't know anything about the interior of the Chargers' OL, but their bookends of King Dunlap and DJ Fluker are (a.) really good in their own rights, and (b.) benefit from Phillip Rivers' excellent pocket presence and quick release. The Chargers are banged up at RB, and I don't really know who's going to be starting there. Both Ryan Mathews and Donald Brown are out, so this kid Brandon Oliver has been racking up 100-yard performances both weeks. They've also got Ronnie Brown, and believe it or not, Shaun Draughn is still in the league. This is the year the Chargers feature a defense every bit as good as their offense. Their DL is monstrous, with Kendall Reyes and Corey Liuget bookending an overachieving Sean Lissemore in the middle. I like their ILBs more than their OLBs -- Manti Te'o and Donald Butler cover well and hit the line of scrimmage hard. It's a good thing they get a pocket push from Reyes and Liuget, because they have no edge rushers other than Dwight Freeney, who has actually played well despite being on social security. The CBs are where San Diego is really hurting people. Brandon Flowers, Shareece Wright, and Jason Verrett is a small lineup, but they play hard, cover well, and will erase every WR not named Bowe from Alex's sight. I have no opinion on Marcus Gilchrist but Eric Weddle is an opportunistic mother****er with a nose for the ball.
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