My draft wish... - Page 6

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 10:43 AM

Everybody has already talked about Marcus McNeil, I think he'd be an awesome pick, but...

The guy I really covet is Michael Huff from Texas. He's played both CB and S in college, but at 6'1", 205, I'd be looking at him to take over Greg Wesley's spot. He's an electric playmaker and has a real nose for the ball.

He looks like a guy that could go 6-7 picks ahead of us, but because of his tweener status, he could slip.

duncan_idaho · 01-03-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

The pro bowl doesn't amount too much IMO. Vick made the pro bowl this year. What I see is detroits defense unable to stop interior running and they have 2 UT defenders inside so take that or what it's worth.

Phuqtards like Jspchief look at shit like the pro bowl and base all their opinions off of that instead of evaluating a player with their own eyes and seeing what he can or can't do.

Redding is a defensive end, not a tackle. I think they move him inside on passing downs, but he's an end.

As for Rogers... you'd have a hard time finding a single talent evaluator in the NFL who wouldn't put Rogers in the Top 5/10 DTs in the NFL.

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

The pro bowl doesn't amount too much IMO. Vick made the pro bowl this year. What I see is detroits defense unable to stop interior running and they have 2 UT defenders inside so take that or what it's worth.

Phuqtards like Jspchief look at shit like the pro bowl and base all their opinions off of that instead of evaluating a player with their own eyes and seeing what he can or can't do.

I am evaluating players with my own eyes.

Shaun Rogers was injured this season and missed 2 complete games.

In the 3 seasons that he's played all 16 games, they were 10th in yards per attempt, 13th, and 8th.

It's quite simple. You're the only one here that watches any football. Your opinion is GOLD. Anybody that disagrees with you is an idiot. I've got you pegged.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

oh yeah Jspchief...i just edited my above post and it's addressed directly to you.

Dude, if you think Shaun Rogers is a bust you're a fucking moron. He's one of the best DTs in the game right now, if not the best.

Besides, I didn't say shit about the pro-bowl. I make my judgements off of watching players. Something that you clearly haven't done in the case of Shaun Rogers and Cory Redding.

You think Cory Redding is bad at stopping interior running? He's a fucking DE you idiot. Dan Wilkinson is the other Detroit DT. Tell me again about how you make your judgements by watching. When did you watch Redding in the middle of Detroit's D-line?

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Redding is a defensive end, not a tackle. I think they move him inside on passing downs, but he's an end.

OUTED!!!

B_Ambuehl · 01-03-2006, 02:45 PM

D-end, D-tackle whatever. A d-end is still considered inside when referring to the front 7.

Oh yeah, and I challenge anyone here to watch the game tomorrow night and instead of watching the ball go ahead and zero in on Rodrique Wright each and every snap. Then come back and tell me UT defenders aren't overhyped.

Mecca · 01-03-2006, 02:46 PM

Were going to judge them in 1 game against maybe the best offense college football has ever seen. I'd say that's grading on a major curve.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Were going to judge them in 1 game against maybe the best offense college football has ever seen. I'd say that's grading on a major curve.

Yes. That will be clear proof that most Texas defensive players are busts.

You use stupid things like Pro-bowls to determine success?

B_Ambuehl · 01-03-2006, 03:00 PM

He's still playing against players who aren't as good as the players he'll be facing 3 months from now as an NFL

You've guys have heard about Wright....number one pick and this and that. Go ahead and watch him go against lesser players tomorow night then tell me you guys want him in a Chiefs uniform on Sundays.

Maybe he'll have a big game and get 15 tackles and 3 sacks...who knows....but don't be surprised if he looks worse then Ryan Sims and Jr. combined.

Hammock Parties · 01-03-2006, 03:04 PM

Looks like it's going to be a htismaqe-jspchief-B_Ambuehl love triangle all offseason!

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

He's still playing against players who aren't as good as the players he'll be facing 3 months from now as an NFL

You've guys have heard about Wright....number one pick and this and that. Go ahead and watch him go against lesser players tomorow night then tell me you guys want him in a Chiefs uniform on Sundays.

Maybe he'll have a big game and get 15 tackles and 3 sacks...who knows....but don't be surprised if he looks worse then Ryan Sims and Jr. combined.

Regardless of what Wright does, your statement about most defensive players from Texas being "busts" is absurd.

Personally, I'm not big on Wright, but he may be the best DT available when we pick. That doesn't mean we should take him. He's going to be going up against a 1st round Tackle and 2 excellent NFL caliber RBs. He may not have a great game.

I am big on Huff, and he probably won't have a great game either. That doesn't mean he sucks or will be a bust.

**Mr. Kotter** · 01-03-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by gochiefs

Looks like it's going to be a htismaqe-jspchief-B_Ambuehl love triangle all offseason!

We could call it the "Voyager Triangle"

htismaqe · 01-03-2006, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

D-end, D-tackle whatever. A d-end is still considered inside when referring to the front 7.

Oh yeah, and I challenge anyone here to watch the game tomorrow night and instead of watching the ball go ahead and zero in on Rodrique Wright each and every snap. Then come back and tell me UT defenders aren't overhyped.

I've already said MULTIPLE times that I have concerns about Wright. The fact that you think his play will prove one way or another that ALL UT defenders are overhyped is downright laughable...

I'll bet you were one of those that said Larry Johnson was a PSU running back, right?

milkman · 01-03-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl

D-end, D-tackle whatever. A d-end is still considered inside when referring to the front 7.

I've watched football for 40 years, and I have never, ever, heard anyone say anything like this.

Your and Idiot.

He's a Defensive END.

By definition, he's on the END of the line.

He doesn't play inside, no matter how you try to spin it.

Herzig · 01-03-2006, 03:56 PM

Here's a guy playing tonight in the Orange bowl we might want to look at in the 2nd or 3rd round..

Tamba Hali DE 6'3 267 Penn St.
By: Robert Davis

Tamba Hali has made the move very few make, moving from defensive tackle to defensive end at Penn St. He started his career as a tackle, and as a sophomore starter, he finished the season with 53 tackles, six for loss, with one sack despite playing hurt for most of the year. As a junior he moved outside to end, and was named All Big 10 after notching 51 tackles, 12 for loss, with six sacks. He turned into a true dominating force, as he had career highs in tackles, tackles for loss, and sacks, finishing with 62, 17, and 11 on the year.

Hali brings a very good combination of athleticism and strength to the football field. He has the athleticism to beat the tackle and get into the backfield, or to break down and tackle the ball carrier in space. Playing DT also allows him to be a force against the run as well. Hali plays with a great deal of passion and intensity on the field. He won't be outworked and he is coming full force on every down.

Despite his athleticism, Hali has limited pass rush moves. He makes more plays based on his ability to overpower college tackles and with his hustle. Hali also lacks the pure size to be a prime draft pick. When facing NFL sized tackles, he has shown the ability to be neutralized and taken out of plays.

Tamba Hali is a very solid prospect, and could hear his name called in the first round of the draft. He is not the stud playmaker other ends are, and he lacks the true standout gifts to be a real high pick. But his versatility and intensity will be coveted by teams in April.

jspchief · 01-03-2006, 03:58 PM

I don't think Tamba Hali will make it to the second or third round. He may be around when we pick though.

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B_Ambuehl Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Casino cash: $9805405	He's still playing against players who aren't as good as the players he'll be facing 3 months from now as an NFL You've guys have heard about Wright....number one pick and this and that. Go ahead and watch him go against lesser players tomorow night then tell me you guys want him in a Chiefs uniform on Sundays. Maybe he'll have a big game and get 15 tackles and 3 sacks...who knows....but don't be surprised if he looks worse then Ryan Sims and Jr. combined. __________________ Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with" LOL
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Herzig Wooooooo Pig Soooooiiiie!!! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northwest Arkansas Casino cash: $9984900	Here's a guy playing tonight in the Orange bowl we might want to look at in the 2nd or 3rd round.. Tamba Hali DE 6'3 267 Penn St. By: Robert Davis Tamba Hali has made the move very few make, moving from defensive tackle to defensive end at Penn St. He started his career as a tackle, and as a sophomore starter, he finished the season with 53 tackles, six for loss, with one sack despite playing hurt for most of the year. As a junior he moved outside to end, and was named All Big 10 after notching 51 tackles, 12 for loss, with six sacks. He turned into a true dominating force, as he had career highs in tackles, tackles for loss, and sacks, finishing with 62, 17, and 11 on the year. Hali brings a very good combination of athleticism and strength to the football field. He has the athleticism to beat the tackle and get into the backfield, or to break down and tackle the ball carrier in space. Playing DT also allows him to be a force against the run as well. Hali plays with a great deal of passion and intensity on the field. He won't be outworked and he is coming full force on every down. Despite his athleticism, Hali has limited pass rush moves. He makes more plays based on his ability to overpower college tackles and with his hustle. Hali also lacks the pure size to be a prime draft pick. When facing NFL sized tackles, he has shown the ability to be neutralized and taken out of plays. Tamba Hali is a very solid prospect, and could hear his name called in the first round of the draft. He is not the stud playmaker other ends are, and he lacks the true standout gifts to be a real high pick. But his versatility and intensity will be coveted by teams in April. __________________
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jspchief BAMF Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Your Face Casino cash: $9998710	I don't think Tamba Hali will make it to the second or third round. He may be around when we pick though. __________________ Courage is not the absence of fear but rather the judgment that something is more important than fear. The brave may not live forever but the cautious do not live at all.
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