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Old 01-21-2014, 02:24 PM   #1
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As for the arm length, he's got the exact same at 31 1/4 as Sharrif Floyd.
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I have completely given up on Alex Smith as a qb. Its painful to watch. Like, worse than watching Colt McCoy.
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****, he would have been a good later round pick.
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****, he would have been a good later round pick.
You can still draft him on the 3rd day and basically redshirt him his rookie year.
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Yeah, I wouldn't be upset with that.

I'd also like us to take Donald if he's there in the 3rd. He's gonna be a Geno Atkins type player.
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And FYI....I never compared Donald to Tuitt.
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Old 01-21-2014, 07:03 PM   #6
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And FYI....I never compared Donald to Tuitt.
And I did, and Tuitt does not have close to the same pass rush/disruptive ability that Donald has. The only thing he does better is that he is more consistent at holding the point of attack and that's due to his length and overall size. That being said, Donald tends to disrupt a lot of run plays by simply ripping through his blocker(s) and getting into the backfield. He is the one guy that teams consistently double team along the Pitt line and he still changes plays with his disruptiveness. From what I've seen, Donald also has a better motor.
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Old 01-21-2014, 09:12 PM   #7
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And I did, and Tuitt does not have close to the same pass rush/disruptive ability that Donald has. The only thing he does better is that he is more consistent at holding the point of attack and that's due to his length and overall size. That being said, Donald tends to disrupt a lot of run plays by simply ripping through his blocker(s) and getting into the backfield. He is the one guy that teams consistently double team along the Pitt line and he still changes plays with his disruptiveness. From what I've seen, Donald also has a better motor.
Penn has good feet movement, but he needs to use his hands quicker.

Also, trying to explain why a guy that weighs 30 pounds less can move better is an obvious duh. Basically, Tuitt needs to drop the extra weight he gained.
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Penn has good feet movement, but he needs to use his hands quicker.

Also, trying to explain why a guy that weighs 30 pounds less can move better is an obvious duh. Basically, Tuitt needs to drop the extra weight he gained.
Or the fact that they don't play the same position......or are even in the same defensive front.
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Or the fact that they don't play the same position......or are even in the same defensive front.
He's been kicked out to the DE position quite a few times in the Pitt defense. Just watch this tape on him vs FSU. Tuitt is nowhere in the same neighborhood of consistency with his disruption of plays.


In contrast, here is Tuitt vs USC last year.


Which is the better player?
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So you cherry picked one game from each player? Quick...let me go find Donald's worst game and Tuitt's best game for you to compare.

Funny....you haven't mentioned dick about Donald until he lit it up at the Senior Bowl. I on the other hand have been talking about Tuitt for 2 ****ing years now.

Feel free to go **** yourself on the way out.
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Old 01-21-2014, 11:04 PM   #11
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So you cherry picked one game from each player? Quick...let me go find Donald's worst game and Tuitt's best game for you to compare.

Funny....you haven't mentioned dick about Donald until he lit it up at the Senior Bowl. I on the other hand have been talking about Tuitt for 2 ****ing years now.

Feel free to go **** yourself on the way out.
Not really, I pulled up games of them facing their best competition from last season that was available on Youtube. Feel free to try and find bad tape on Donald, lol, I haven't seen one yet. He really has one hell of a motor to go along with his physical abilities.


He gets washed out by double teams a few times against Miami but also beats them too.
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So you cherry picked one game from each player? Quick...let me go find Donald's worst game and Tuitt's best game for you to compare.

Funny....you haven't mentioned dick about Donald until he lit it up at the Senior Bowl. I on the other hand have been talking about Tuitt for 2 ****ing years now.

Feel free to go **** yourself on the way out.
One person is calling the other names, while the other is ignoring this and continuing to have a legitimate debate. I think I know who the asshole in this pissing contest is.
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One person is calling the other names, while the other is ignoring this and continuing to have a legitimate debate. I think I know who the asshole in this pissing contest is.
A legitimate debate?

He's the one comparing a 280 lb DT against a 315 lb 3-4 DE.

He's shown 3 YouTube videos for a player that just showed up at the Senior Bowl. I've debated about Tuitt for 2 years.

Excuse me if I don't give two ****s what either of you douchebags have to say on the matter.
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Last two years?

Donald - 16.5 sacks
Tuitt - 19.5 sacks
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Don't get my wrong, I like Tuitt if he could return to his 2012 form. But I think that the Chiefs aren't in need of any more big and slow run stuffers who only get coverage sacks and that is the category that I would put Tuitt in. Really need a pass rusher who can provide tons of pressure up the middle in nickel packages and take advantage of their 1 on 1 match-ups. Guys like Aaron Donald and Dominique Easley fill that roll the best.
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