Senior Bowl Thread

[saphojunkie]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I like Tuitt a lot, but goddamn do I want Jordan Matthews. He's everything you could want.
He's even practicing after practice and asked for tape of every CB he would face the week before the Senior Bowl.

Jordan Matthews, plz & thx

[Mav]

Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Jordan Matthews, plz & thx

I like him a lot. Just not on the Chiefs. They have too many of those types, most notably Bowe, and Hemmingway. They really need a game changer.

That's why the excitement and prospect that one of the three tight ends could be there for the Chiefs.

Marquise Lee is another game changer, I just don't see him making it that far. Once he has his pro day, and teams watch his route running he is going to sky rocket.

What I am afraid of, is Mike Evans falling to the Chiefs. That would worry me.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I like him a lot. Just not on the Chiefs. They have too many of those types, most notably Bowe, and Hemmingway. They really need a game changer.

That's why the excitement and prospect that one of the three tight ends could be there for the Chiefs.

Marquise Lee is another game changer, I just don't see him making it that far. Once he has his pro day, and teams watch his route running he is going to sky rocket.

What I am afraid of, is Mike Evans falling to the Chiefs. That would worry me.

Who knows, he could turn out to be the next Alshon Jeffrey/ Brandon Marshall. Definitely the best "jump ball" receiver I've seen in this draft. Just sucks too much at route running and getting separation for me to consider spending a first on him. He'll fit in for some team, just hope it's not the Chiefs. Already have enough WRs who can't get open.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I like Tuitt a lot, but goddamn do I want Jordan Matthews. He's everything you could want.
He's even practicing after practice and asked for tape of every CB he would face the week before the Senior Bowl.

As much of an effort player as he is, it doesn't change the fact that he isn't getting much consistent separation from the DBs in the practices. He's a #2 possession receiver, not really a game changer at this point.

The more I see of him, the more I want Jimmie Ward in our secondary. He can flat out fly to the ball and is versatile in that he can play practically any position in the secondary. He would probably be our fastest DB as well (next to Eric Berry). Crappy thing is he may have played himself into the 2nd round and out of reach of our 3rd round pick.

[Tribal Warfare]

Originally Posted by RunKC

I like Tuitt a lot, but goddamn do I want Jordan Matthews. He's everything you could want.
He's even practicing after practice and asked for tape of every CB he would face the week before the Senior Bowl.

His distant cousin is Jerry Rice

[Sorter]

I think I'm just going to make threads for all of the prospects I like and put excessive amounts of video and information in them.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Sorter

I think I'm just going to make threads for all of the prospects I like and put excessive amounts of video and information in them.

Just create an ****OFFICIAL Sorter's Draft Recommendations**** thread.

[Direckshun]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just create an ****OFFICIAL Sorter's Draft Recommendations**** thread.

I like the individual thread idea.

But this works.

[bowener]

That second video of Ward is what I want to see from our defense. 15 yard penalties are worth scaring the shit out of receivers the rest of the game. Gator arms over the middle fail a lot of 3rd down conversions.

[The Franchise]

#Michiganstate Safety Isaiah Lewis catches the ball very naturally. Could be a nice developmental one deep safety

Isaiah Lewis, S, Michigan State
Height: 5-10. Weight: 205.
Projected 40 Time: 4.59.
Projected Round (2014): 5-7.
12/21/13: Lewis has 54 tackles, two interceptions and eight passes batted in 2013. He has been a solid defender for the Spartans.

8/18/13: Lewis was an All-Big Ten honorable mention last year after he totaled 80 tackles with six passes broken up and two interceptions. Lewis entered the starting lineup in 2011 and had a quality season for the Spartans. The sophomore was a Second-Team All-Big Ten selection by the coaches and media. He totaled 74 tackles with four interceptions, three passes broken up and 2.5 tackles for a loss. Lewis formed a nice duo with Trenton Robinson that year.

[OldSchool]

Here's Lewis vs Stanford, 2014 Rose Bowl game.


Kind of annoying trying to watch the coverage ability of DBs vs Stanford though, they run way too damn much, lol. Not sure if Isaiah Lewis would be much of an upgrade in the speed department over Kendrick Lewis though. He takes good angles for the most part but gets burned deep by a TE in single coverage against Stanford.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

Here's Lewis vs Stanford, 2014 Rose Bowl game.


Kind of annoying trying to watch the coverage ability of DBs vs Stanford though, they run way too damn much, lol. Not sure if Isaiah Lewis would be much of an upgrade in the speed department over Kendrick Lewis though. He takes good angles for the most part but gets burned deep by a TE in single coverage against Stanford.

From what I've seen....he's a 3rd draft day kind of guy. Like the tweet said....a developmental safety. The areas that he'd improve over Lewis is his ability to hit and he takes better angles. He wouldn't be starting in his first couple of years....so he'd have time to work on his game.

[OldSchool]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

From what I've seen....he's a 3rd draft day kind of guy. Like the tweet said....a developmental safety. The areas that he'd improve over Lewis is his ability to hit and he takes better angles. He wouldn't be starting in his first couple of years....so he'd have time to work on his game.

The only thing is, the more I look at these safeties the more I'm convinced that the answer has to come from in-house or FA next season. The only potential 3rd rounder I've seen who can come in and contribute right away is Jimmie Ward, and that's because of his special teams ability and ability to cover in the slot. None of these guys will honestly be an upgrade over Abdullah as rookies, barring some miracle rookie season like Byrd had in Buffalo. I'm also sure that the coaching staff would be more inclined to give Sanders Commings a shot at the starting FS position before they would turn to a mid-round rookie. Certainly can't be worse than Lewis though, lol.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by OldSchool

The only thing is, the more I look at these safeties the more I'm convinced that the answer has to come from in-house or FA next season. The only potential 3rd rounder I've seen who can come in and contribute right away is Jimmie Ward, and that's because of his special teams ability and ability to cover in the slot. None of these guys will honestly be an upgrade over Abdullah as rookies, barring some miracle rookie season like Byrd had in Buffalo. I'm also sure that the coaching staff would be more inclined to give Sanders Commings a shot at the starting FS position before they would turn to a mid-round rookie. Certainly can't be worse than Lewis though, lol.

Oh I agree. I kind of view the safety position as one position instead of FS vs SS. So, I would re-sign Abdullah and draft a safety in the middle rounds.....maybe someone like Lewis. Roll with Berry, Abdullah, Commings and Lewis next season. That's 4 safeties that can all hit and cover.

[Sfeihc]

Originally Posted by Pestilence

Oh I agree. I kind of view the safety position as one position instead of FS vs SS. So, I would re-sign Abdullah and draft a safety in the middle rounds.....maybe someone like Lewis. Roll with Berry, Abdullah, Commings and Lewis next season. That's 4 safeties that can all hit and cover.

Have two guys with almost no experience scares me a bit (I mean A LOT) but I'm intrigued by upside of this possibility. It would seem to me that a big-time play maker would be the preferred route @ 23 be it a WR or TE.