Chiefs Woof. Alright, so what would you do? - Page 8

Chris Meck · 11-21-2023, 06:48 AM

NOW.

Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'.

What would you do NOW?

I would stop with the rotation at WR.

I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented.

I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you.

When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there.

Probably run a lot of 21.

Keep feeding Pacheco.

Simplify as much as you can.

**Easy 6** · 11-21-2023, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise

As much as I like the Uzi pick in the first round....it should have been WR or TE. Mayer or Musgrave right now would help immensely.

We better target Pitts for a trade, or draft someone high... one of the two

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Well the NFL has allowed defenders to beat the ever loving shit out of him for 10 years now, this is the end result. Same reason Gronk retired so young. TE is an absolutely brutal position.

I have a horrible feeling this is his last year. He might just retire with Jason and focus on post football life, and I can't say I would blame him at this point. I think at best we're getting 1 more year out of him.

If we actually manage to win it all again this year, I bet he retires

If we don't, yeah we'll get one more go from him

chiefzilla1501 · 11-21-2023, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief

Well the NFL has allowed defenders to beat the ever loving shit out of him for 10 years now, this is the end result. Same reason Gronk retired so young. TE is an absolutely brutal position.

I have a horrible feeling this is his last year. He might just retire with Jason and focus on post football life, and I can't say I would blame him at this point. I think at best we're getting 1 more year out of him.

I just don't see it.

Get him some help. Guarantee he's back to his dominant self if you take a few defenders off of him. Kelce with less coverage is still easily the best TE in the game. But you got to got to manage his reps and stop incentivizing defenses for forcing him to grind out there.

He still loves the hell out of the game. Of course a guy is going to love it less when the circumstance makes his role crazy frustrating

Abba-Dabba · 11-21-2023, 10:41 AM

I would hire someone to cup my balls and tell me to trust the process.

That's always a winning formula.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-21-2023, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

I would hire someone to cup my balls.

Found your thesis, let's just concentrate on that.

MIAdragon · 11-21-2023, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat

FIRE THE PENALTY COACH!

We really are playing undisciplined ball right now. Penalties, turnovers poor fundamentals dropped passes, missed gap assignments running wrong routes. It’s bad, without Andy’s track record you’d be hard pressed to not look in that direction.

Abba-Dabba · 11-21-2023, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

Found your thesis, let's just concentrate on that.

You don't have to be so coy on asking for a application.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-21-2023, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

You don't have to be so coy on asking for a application.

Coy? no. Were I to have "ball cupping" money, I'd do the same.

Abba-Dabba · 11-21-2023, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

Coy? no. Were I to have "ball cupping" money, I'd do the same.

New goal. Make enough to have ball cupping money. Win.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 11-21-2023, 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Abba-Dabba

New goal. Make enough to have ball cupping money. Win.

ModSocks · 11-21-2023, 11:00 AM

There's honestly not much else you can do other than swap Toney and Moore, and if we did that we'll probably break Toney and have to start Moore anyway.

MVS had a bad night for sure, but Hardman isn't all that better if at all. MVS stays in the rotation above Hardman imo.

Lastly, feature Rice above all else. Seems that coming out of the bye they decided to feature Watson to teh tune of 11 targets. Lets try featuring Rice and see what happens.

Abba-Dabba · 11-21-2023, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fansy the Famous Bard

Not quite what I was thinking in terms of that new goal for you.

Gary Cooper · 11-21-2023, 11:16 AM

What's the harm in giving Rice and Toney 75% of the snaps as top two receivers?

Direckshun · 11-21-2023, 11:22 AM

I haven't read the thread.

I just don't know what else you can do at this point.

The defense is balling, Mahomes is making the plays he needs to make, Reid is dialing up good plays.

The receivers just aren't converting. It's that simple. So you just have to hope they start converting and that the Chiefs are better than opponents everywhere else, to the point where a few drops won't kill them.

In the Chiefs defense: I think if you play yesterday's game 10 times, the Chiefs win 6 or 7 of those times. They were the better team yesterday, but their receivers simply aren't good enough, and it's going to cost them if they aren't already housing teams everywhere else on the field.

The only area this team can improve reasonably is by getting the OL to cut down on penalties.

chinaski · 11-21-2023, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois

Buy some of this for the receivers

Is pine tar legal?

**ChiTown** · 11-21-2023, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Cooper

What's the harm in giving Rice and Toney 75% of the snaps as top two receivers?

Re: Rice
Out of ALL of our WR's on the team (minus newcomer Hardman), Rice has the best Success % and Catch % on the team. He also has the most 1st downs and TD's. He's essentially the same as Watson and MVS on Receiving Yards per Target. He's getting 12.6% of the teams targets, which is the highest rate to any Chiefs WR. What we need is more consistency from him throughout the game - ie. 2 halves of FB. IDK if that's the O and our playcaling or whether it's a "him" problem.

11-21-2023, 06:48 AM
Chris Meck MVP Join Date: May 2001 Location: midtown KC Casino cash: $1724910	Woof. Alright, so what would you do? NOW. Not last March. No 'what I would've done is...'. What would you do NOW? I would stop with the rotation at WR. I'm playing Rice and Toney every play unless they need a breather. They are the two most talented. I'm putting Hardman in MVS' spot. He's the fastest, and MVS never played big anyway. run ****ing go routes until you drop, Mecole. If they don't pull a safety over, we'll chuck it to you. When Hardman needs a breath, send Watson out there. Probably run a lot of 21. Keep feeding Pacheco. Simplify as much as you can.
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11-21-2023, 10:41 AM	#108
Abba-Dabba MVP Join Date: May 2001 Casino cash: $4502970	I would hire someone to cup my balls and tell me to trust the process. That's always a winning formula.
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11-21-2023, 11:00 AM	#115
ModSocks Needs more middle fingers Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: San Diego Casino cash: $4094563	There's honestly not much else you can do other than swap Toney and Moore, and if we did that we'll probably break Toney and have to start Moore anyway. MVS had a bad night for sure, but Hardman isn't all that better if at all. MVS stays in the rotation above Hardman imo. Lastly, feature Rice above all else. Seems that coming out of the bye they decided to feature Watson to teh tune of 11 targets. Lets try featuring Rice and see what happens. __________________ Life is like a dick. Sometimes it gets hard for no reason, but it can't stay hard forever.
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11-21-2023, 11:16 AM	#117
Gary Cooper MVP Join Date: Nov 2020 Casino cash: $2380400	What's the harm in giving Rice and Toney 75% of the snaps as top two receivers?
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11-21-2023, 11:22 AM	#118
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4203447	I haven't read the thread. I just don't know what else you can do at this point. The defense is balling, Mahomes is making the plays he needs to make, Reid is dialing up good plays. The receivers just aren't converting. It's that simple. So you just have to hope they start converting and that the Chiefs are better than opponents everywhere else, to the point where a few drops won't kill them. In the Chiefs defense: I think if you play yesterday's game 10 times, the Chiefs win 6 or 7 of those times. They were the better team yesterday, but their receivers simply aren't good enough, and it's going to cost them if they aren't already housing teams everywhere else on the field. The only area this team can improve reasonably is by getting the OL to cut down on penalties.
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