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Old 12-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #1
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:01 PM   #2
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:22 AM   #3
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Regardless of what you might think of Cowher as a coach, getting him back in KC is some capacity would be a smart move from a fanbase perspective. Sort of bringing the native son back home type of move.
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:28 AM   #4
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Regardless of what you might think of Cowher as a coach...
I'm pretty big on winning and he appears to be good at that...
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:46 AM   #5
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I'd be good with him coming in, really. I know a lot of you would prefer another Todd Haley type coach that has something to prove. I want a proven winner to bring them back to yearly contention.
I wouldn't mind Cowher or Reid (if he's available) or someone like that.
Someone who has a proven system and can use the current talent on this roster to get the team winning or at least 8-8 in season 1 and playoffs by year 2. Right now we're just wasting guys like Charles and Hali.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:22 PM   #6
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I want a proven winner to bring them back to yearly contention.
That seems to be the dominant opinion.

Me, I want something more.

I'd gladly trade two decades of 2-win seasons for one Super Bowl.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:24 PM   #7
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That seems to be the dominant opinion.

Me, I want something more.

I'd gladly trade two decades of 2-win seasons for one Super Bowl.
We've already traded our two decades.

I don't have two decades...
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:30 PM   #8
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We've already traded our two decades.

I don't have two decades...
It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:32 PM   #9
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It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
At least he's done it...
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:39 PM   #10
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It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
Yeah, but just about every year they were a contender.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:23 PM   #11
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It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
FWIW, Cowher's Steelers never had a top 5 pick in the draft. They only had one top 10 pick in the draft (Plaxico Burress with #8 in 2000) and that was a year when the first three QBs taken were Chad Pennington (#18), Giovanni Carmazzi (3rd round), and Chris Redman (3rd round).

The year he took over the Steelers, he inherited Neil O'Donnell and the only first round QB taken that year in the draft was Tommy Maddox (#25).

They finally got Rothlisberger at #11 in 2004, thirteen years into Cowher's tenure.

I had no idea how horrible Cowher's QB opportunities were for most of his coaching stint.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:36 PM   #12
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It took Cowher a decade and a half to build a Super Bowl winner in Pitt.

Seems he's not a good choice then.
I don't think it would take a whole decade with The Chin & Geno Smith for us to win a Super Bowl. I am not big on Cowher, but I also know our defense wouldn't get pushed around like they do now. We would have a sollid team that gets respect again like the 90's. With Geno Smith could put us in Super Bowl contention imo. Just no damn retread QBs & I will be happy.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:27 PM   #13
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That seems to be the dominant opinion.

Me, I want something more.

I'd gladly trade two decades of 2-win seasons for one Super Bowl.
It seems the best chance to win a SB, is to consistently put yourself in a chance to get there.

I know Marty, while in KC, consistently won in the RS, but sputtered int he playoffs.

But he consistently put us in a position where we could have a chance to get there. He just didn't really learn from the reason he kept falling short.

Look at the Pats, Packers, Steelers, Ravens etc, the upper echelon teams. They don't win SB's every year, but they always put themselves ina position to win.

Thats what I want. I want someone who will consistently put us in a spot to win in teh playoffs. A reason I want Cowher, is that this is a unique situation in that who ever comes in here is pretty much going to be forced to build around a QB we draft first overall. It's likely not going to be an option, or hopefully not going to be an option, to win without one.
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:30 PM   #14
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It seems the best chance to win a SB, is to consistently put yourself in a chance to get there.
There you go.

Now, how do you get to the playoffs?

1)Solid D.
2)Franchise QB.

Who wins SB's?

Teams that have a franchise QB and solid D...
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Old 12-19-2012, 12:28 PM   #15
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That seems to be the dominant opinion.

Me, I want something more.

I'd gladly trade two decades of 2-win seasons for one Super Bowl.
You youngsters missed the 1st and 4th superbowl. The one win was sweet.
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