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Old 01-26-2012, 09:42 AM  
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Jeff Chadiha Interviewed on 810 this morning -Interesting bits about Cassel and OC

Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....

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Old 01-26-2012, 11:30 AM   #106
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Choices:

Draft Sanchez or Freeman with a 1st.
Draft Tebow in the 1st, or Clausen in the 2nd, or McCoy in the 2nd or 3rd.

They realistically weren't going to take a QB in the 1st or 2nd this year after Cassel made the Pro-Bowl.
Besides Freeman, I wouldn't have drafted any of those players, either. Even then, I never viewed Freeman as a franchise QB, but more as a project and I certainly wouldn't have taken him at our pick.

Ever hear the term, better the devil you know, than the devil you don't know?
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:33 AM   #107
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Jeff Chadiha of ESPN was interviewed on 810 this morning and had some interesting bits about Cassel:

- He revealed that Haley told him that his father, Dick Haley (famous Steelers personnel man), upon watching Cassel practice told him "I don't think you can win with this guy"

- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two

- Was told that Weiss was not a Cassel fan at all (I know this isn't new, but yet another source confirming what we already know)

- Was informed by multiple sources around the league that the Chiefs OC job is not a prime destination because of the atmosphere created by Pioli, lack of confidence in the staying power of Romeo and the fact that Cassel is the QB

Very depressing interview....
Jesus....
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #108
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So I have a question, why is this the case?

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- Was told by a source within the Chiefs that he trusts that Matt Cassel was still mistakenly calling out plays using Patriots terminology...in year two
Is it:
1. Because he’s just a ****ing idiot, or
2. He isn’t putting in the work to learn his position?
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #109
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Right, but if Stanzi is, even at this early point in his career, not a better option than Tyler Palko? Which I do not believe, but they still didn't put him on the field. What was Palko doing on an NFL team?
I think Palko was a huge mistake, but I believe who starts is on the head coach, not the GM.

Pioli made a huge mistake in assuming Palko was coached up in New England, by putting too much faith in them, but I understand the viewpoint of starting Palko over Stanzi.

Coaches are in win-now-mode. Does it stand to reason, to think that a player who has been training in the NFL longer, probably gives you the best shot to win over a rookie, especially one drafted in the 5th round?
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:36 AM   #110
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Which terminology have we been using? I thought we did run the Edhart Perkins offense under Weis and he used Patriot terminology?
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:41 AM   #111
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I agree. I think people are piling 40 years of frustration onto Pioli's shoulders. Good Lord he has had 3 ****in' years-Carl had close to two DECADES.

I also find it amusing that so many consider Pioli an ego-driven maniac, when it's all hearsay.
I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:42 AM   #112
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I think Palko was a huge mistake, but I believe who starts is on the head coach, not the GM.

Pioli made a huge mistake in assuming Palko was coached up in New England, by putting too much faith in them, but I understand the viewpoint of starting Palko over Stanzi.

Coaches are in win-now-mode. Does it stand to reason, to think that a player who has been training in the NFL longer, probably gives you the best shot to win over a rookie, especially one drafted in the 5th round?
Assuming said QB has at least middling physical tools yeah.. Obviously Palko doesn't have that even.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:43 AM   #113
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I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.
There is this much doom and gloom because people are carrying the frustration of "no playoff win since 93". 3 years of that is on Pioli, 16 years of it are on Peterson. But hey, feel free to think those 16 years were better.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:45 AM   #114
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I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.
It's because everyone knows this team is one player away from being a serious playoff contender. It's because our QB is so OBVIOUSLY putrid that the collective NFL mind can see it. It's undeniably obvious what is holding this team back. This team made Kyle Orton look like a legitimate QB.

Everyone can see it but the one guy that matters.

It's not about just being mad at Pioli. It's about being mad at the fact that we've waited 10 years or so for a team this talented, only to be wasted by an ego trip.

THAT is what pisses me off, not sure about you guys, but **** that is infuriating.
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Old 01-26-2012, 11:45 AM   #115
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Coaches are in win-now-mode. Does it stand to reason, to think that a player who has been training in the NFL longer, probably gives you the best shot to win over a rookie, especially one drafted in the 5th round?
Which is why the Texans went with Delhomme over Yates with the playoffs on the line.

No... Wait... they went with the 5th round draft pick didn't they!
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There is this much doom and gloom because people are carrying the frustration of "no playoff win since 93". 3 years of that is on Pioli, 16 years of it are on Peterson. But hey, feel free to think those 16 years were better.
There were times during those 16 years where I thought we might win it all.
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It's because everyone knows this team is one player away from being a serious playoff contender. It's because our QB is so OBVIOUSLY putrid that the collective NFL mind can see it. It's undeniably obvious what is holding this team back. This team made Kyle Orton look like a legitimate QB.

Everyone can see it but the one guy that matters.

It's not about just being mad at Pioli. It's about being mad at the fact that we've waited 10 years or so for a team this talented, only to be wasted by an ego trip.

THAT is what pisses me off, not sure about you guys, but **** that is infuriating.
Ditto!
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I hate to say this, but I almost prefer Peterson. After his 3rd year there wasn't anything surrounding the Chiefs like the doom and gloom that is there now.
Dude, you're off your rocker. Carl Peterson was shit awful.
I like you, but Carl was one of the worst GMs in the history of the game. I don't miss draft picks like Craphonzo Thorpe, William Bartee, Ryan Sims, ect...

18 years, dude.
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