***Official Royals vs Red Sox GDT - July 30***

[ChiefsCountry]

Royals lineup pic.twitter.com/VtDeP8SGiR

— Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) July 30, 2017

.@DrewPomeranz goes for fifth straight win in #RedSox series finale against Royals https://t.co/AjjdViAL1a pic.twitter.com/zRbq5iDP57

— Red Sox (@RedSox) July 30, 2017

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Melk Man Cometh

also,

my expectations are a bit tempered. Cleveland is a really, really good team with a really, really scary weapon (Andrew Miller). I expect them to win this division.

I think the Royals can win Wild Card slot 1, though - and I know they can win that game. I never doubt these Royals when it comes to postseason baseball. Salvy, Hosmer, Moose, Cain, Gordon and Escobar are winning baseball players. I hate using terms like, "winner", in athletics for intangibles - but nothing about this core tells me it doesn't apply, and doesn't win them games in October.

Hi Hootie

[Pitt Gorilla]

Anyone recall why we didn't move to resign Holland and Madson when we had the opportunities?

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Hi Hootie

is this some sort of game?

Do I ever appear to hide behind these mults? I PURPOSELY out myself with themed mults and PURPOSELY post exactly how I've always posted.

You think I'm trying to SBInfinity these things?

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Anyone recall why we didn't move to resign Holland and Madson when we had the opportunities?

Madson IS NOT a pitcher you want in the postseason. Ew.

Holland was a MAJOR risk who signed a MASSIVE 1 year deal with built in incentives pushing his deal now towards 2 years - $32M with the Rockies

you think the Royals should have offered him something like that when he was reported to be hitting 88 MPH velocity?

I wish the Royals could have gotten him for 2 years - 12M (or something) and pay for his rehab year in hopes he'd give us a solid year this year - but Holland held out and got a GREAT prove-it deal from Colorado which may able him to opt out and then get like 3/40+ on the open market in the offseason

Good for him, by the way.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by Melk Man Cometh

is this some sort of game?

Do I ever appear to hide behind these mults? I PURPOSELY out myself with themed mults and PURPOSELY post exactly how I've always posted.

You think I'm trying to SBInfinity these things?

Apparently, it is a game

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Anyone recall why we didn't move to resign Holland and Madson when we had the opportunities?

They tried with Holland before the 16 season; he didn't want to sign a deal that would have paid him to rehab. He bet on himself, and it has paid off.

Before this season, he was topping out at 88-89 in his January showcase. In hindsight, we all wish they had taken the chance, but at the time, it would have been a major risk (and he was demanding a guarantee he would close).

They talked to Madson but felt better moving forward with Soria for similar money. Again, hindsight.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about Soria is that his peripherals are still pretty good in high leverage situations.

He has limited opponents to a .339 OPS in tie games, with a 4.25:1 K:BB. That's cyborg-level.

That number jumps to .599 in late and close games, but that's still very good.

He hasn't stranded RISP consistently. His peripheral stats all suggest he should. Not much hard contact given up - only four extra base hits.

The overall standard numbers also don't add up to a guy who has blown 7 saves (even if only five are 'clean inning' blown saves.


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[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

They tried with Holland before the 16 season; he didn't want to sign a deal that would have paid him to rehab. He bet on himself, and it has paid off.

Before this season, he was topping out at 88-89 in his January showcase. In hindsight, we all wish they had taken the chance, but at the time, it would have been a major risk (and he was demanding a guarantee he would close).

They talked to Madson but felt better moving forward with Soria for similar money. Again, hindsight.

Perhaps the most frustrating thing about Soria is that his peripherals are still pretty good in high leverage situations.

He has limited opponents to a .339 OPS in tie games, with a 4.25:1 K:BB. That's cyborg-level.

That number jumps to .599 in late and close games, but that's still very good.

He hasn't stranded RISP consistently. His peripheral stats all suggest he should. Not much hard contact given up - only four extra base hits.

The overall standard numbers also don't add up to a guy who has blown 7 saves (even if only five are 'clean inning' blown saves.


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It seems like Soria tends to give up a lot of "lucky" hits, weak grounders that find holes, bloopers that fall in. You really don't see him get rocked too often.

[suzzer99]

That's also a side effect of a pitcher who doesn't strike out a lot of batters.

[C3HIEF3S]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

That's also a side effect of a pitcher who doesn't strike out a lot of batters.

Soria has the highest K/9 on the team.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

That's also a side effect of a pitcher who doesn't strike out a lot of batters.

Soria strikes out 11/9, which is a very good rate.


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[suzzer99]

Yes but it doesn't FEEL like it. It's 2017, my feelings trump your facts.