Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-15-2004, 02:27 PM  
jAZ jAZ is offline
Supporter
 
jAZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Tucson, AZ
Casino cash: $5377
Rams' Steven Jackson vs. Chiefs' Larry Johnson

I'd like to hear a few comments (from those more knowledgable than me) about why Jackson is considered the future of the Rams after Faulk retires and Johnson is considered a bust.

Based on their build alone, both players seem to Eddie George-type RBs (which isn't in the Faulk/Priest/Blaylock mold). Both were late 1st round draft picks. Both were considered the #1 RB in the draft that season.

Johnson has had fewer opportunities than Jackson, but on the surface the two guys seem to have a LOT in common.
Posts: 24,763
jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.jAZ has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:28 PM   #2
Brock Brock is offline
Do it.
 
Brock's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Larryville
Casino cash: $5000
Without getting too technical, Steven Jackson is the shit, Larry JOhnson just looks like it.
Posts: 42,713
Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.Brock is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:29 PM   #3
Sure-Oz Sure-Oz is offline
Stay positive, don't give up
 
Sure-Oz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Kansas City, MO
Casino cash: $5787
we def. lose another LJ needs to get some carreis in.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
Sure-Oz could ****ing track anyone in the country via Twitter. Dude makes me scared to leave the house.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DeezNutz View Post
.
Sure-Oz in this mother****er. Resident Tweet master and maligned Royals fan.
Posts: 40,204
Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.Sure-Oz Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:29 PM   #4
Bob Dole Bob Dole is offline
King Shit of **** Mountain
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Texarkana, Texas
Casino cash: $6600
As long as Rich Scanlon is not a member of the Kansas City Chiefs active roster on game day, Larry Johnson isn't worth the time it takes to type La

See?
Posts: 31,414
Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.Bob Dole is blessed with 50/50 Hindsight.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:30 PM   #5
jcroft jcroft is offline
Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Casino cash: $5000
In general I agree, but Johnson has done a number of things to not endear himself to fans. Also, i think MOST people around here feel that Priest will still be here another year or two, which means that the Chiefs will have wasted Johnson's youthfull years -- unless they deal him, in which case they're not going to get much, making him a bust. Faulk, on the other hand, is definitely on the down side of his great career and Jackson is getting chances to play NOW. Plus, Faulk probably will retire at the end of this year, making Jackson was more useful.
__________________
Jeff Croft
jeffcroft.com
Posts: 2,150
jcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:30 PM   #6
Redcoats58 Redcoats58 is offline
MVP
 
Redcoats58's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City Mo.
Casino cash: $5000
Johnson is a bust because he gets no playing time it's that simple. How could he ever become a NFL runningback if they don't give him any carries. Sometimes you just have to let a player sink or swim but the Chiefs coaching staff are afraid to let him play. They made him a bust.
Posts: 5,233
Redcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:38 PM   #7
Demonpenz Demonpenz is online now
Royals Hall Of Fame
 
Demonpenz's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Apartment "G UNIT!"
Casino cash: $6157
Stephen Jackson is a fast agile and a BIG back. Larry Johnson is just big. Jackson makes one move and he is in the secondary, johnson makes one move and he is running right into the back of Willie roaf
Posts: 44,646
Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.Demonpenz is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:42 PM   #8
KCTitus KCTitus is offline
Archivist
 
KCTitus's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: The Ethernet
Casino cash: $5915
I'd suggest spending more time in the film room Mister...
__________________
Anything you post on this BB can and will be used against you...
Posts: 23,607
KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.KCTitus would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:43 PM   #9
HolmeZz HolmeZz is offline
i guess its bittersweet poetry
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NeW HaVeN, CT
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by jAZ
Johnson has had fewer opportunities than Jackson, but on the surface the two guys seem to have a LOT in common.


Other than the fact that they were both first round picks, they have virtually nothing in common. Jackson's a big bruising back with speed and Johnson's a little bitch with the speed of a DLineman running backwards. Johnson was actually drafted after an injured Willis McGahee, eventhough Willis might've never stepped on an NFL field. That shows you how much the Bills thought of LJ.

Really, I've watched both play in college and in the NFL, and they're not comparable at all.
Posts: 16,520
HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:44 PM   #10
kc rush kc rush is offline
Blah Blah Blah
 
kc rush's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: In front of the computer.
Casino cash: $5740
Quote:
Originally Posted by Redcoats58
Johnson is a bust because he gets no playing time it's that simple. How could he ever become a NFL runningback if they don't give him any carries. Sometimes you just have to let a player sink or swim but the Chiefs coaching staff are afraid to let him play. They made him a bust.
Given their current standing, I would hope that the Chiefs run LJ a lot to see once and for all what they have.
Posts: 5,312
kc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellikc rush 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 02:52 PM   #11
Redcoats58 Redcoats58 is offline
MVP
 
Redcoats58's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Kansas City Mo.
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by kc rush
Given their current standing, I would hope that the Chiefs run LJ a lot to see once and for all what they have.
I agree. I don't really care for LJ but if you have used a first rounder on a player you better atleast play him.
Posts: 5,233
Redcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutRedcoats58 is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:18 PM   #12
jcroft jcroft is offline
Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Seattle, WA
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by HolmeZz
Johnson was actually drafted after an injured Willis McGahee, eventhough Willis might've never stepped on an NFL field. That shows you how much the Bills thought of LJ.
As much as I'd like to use this against Johnson, I think it says more about how strongly the Bills felt about McGahee than about how poorly they felt about LJ. They had a very decent starting RB (Henry) and drafted McGahee anyway because they believed he could be an uber-stud in the future. Very different situation than us, who drafted a RB because Priest was hurt and he may need to be able to step and play right away.
__________________
Jeff Croft
jeffcroft.com
Posts: 2,150
jcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking aboutjcroft is the dumbass Milkman is always talking about
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:21 PM   #13
Thig Lyfe Thig Lyfe is offline
Banned
 
Thig Lyfe's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Thigpen's America
Casino cash: $5000
Well, LJ sucks for one thing.
Posts: 25,677
Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.Thig Lyfe threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:21 PM   #14
Saulbadguy Saulbadguy is offline
When a nightmare becomes real
 
Saulbadguy's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Casino cash: $5819
We ruined Larry Johnsons career.
Posts: 46,048
Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.Saulbadguy threw an interception on a screen pass.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-15-2004, 03:47 PM   #15
HolmeZz HolmeZz is offline
i guess its bittersweet poetry
 

Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: NeW HaVeN, CT
Casino cash: $5000
Quote:
Originally Posted by jcroft
As much as I'd like to use this against Johnson, I think it says more about how strongly the Bills felt about McGahee than about how poorly they felt about LJ. They had a very decent starting RB (Henry) and drafted McGahee anyway because they believed he could be an uber-stud in the future. Very different situation than us, who drafted a RB because Priest was hurt and he may need to be able to step and play right away.
There was a very good chance that McGahee would've never even played a down though. If LJ was that good, they would've taken him over a guy who had just tore his ACL.
Posts: 16,520
HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.HolmeZz is a favorite in the douche of the year contest.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 08:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.