A roster for the new millennium?

Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:15 PM

QB: Grbac, Collins, FA TBD
HB: Richardson, Moreau
FB: FA TBD, Draft TBD [6th pick]
OLT: Tait, FA TBD
OLG: Blackshear, Draft TBD [5th pick]
C: Willis, FA TBD
ORG: Riley, FA TBD, Draft TBD [4th pick]
ORT: Alford, Draft TBD [7th pick]
TE: Gonzalez, Dunn, Gammon
WR: Alexander, Morris, Ricks, FA TBD
K: Peterson

xoxo~
gaz
rebuilding the OL.

Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:16 PM

LDE: Hicks, Stills
LDL: McGlockton, Martin
RDL: Williams, Draft TBD [2nd pick]
RDE: Clemmons, Browning
LLB: Draft TBD [1st pick], George, FA TBD
MLB: Maslowski, Patton
RLB: Edwards, George
LCB: Dennis, Bartee, Draft TBD [3rd pick]
RCB: Hasty, FA TBD
SS: Wesley, Atkins
FS: Woods, Walker
P: Sauerbrun

xoxo~
gaz
putting his bucks into the D.

Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:16 PM

GONE…

QB: Moon
RB: Cloud, Hall, Anders, Bennett
OL: Szott, Shields, Grunhard
TE: Drayton
WR: Lockett, Parker
DL: <none> [wishing for Williams]
LB: Bush
CB: Grey
S: <none>

xoxo~
gaz
wielding the big axe.

Cannibal · 01-02-2001, 12:18 PM

I still think moving Riley would be a questionable decision.

Riley was the Chiefs best lineman [next to Shields] this year.

I'd rather put Alford at OG.

I don't like moving Riley to gaurd at all...

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Cannibal · 01-02-2001, 12:20 PM

I also think Grunny agrees to a 1 or 2 year deal.

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Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:22 PM

HC: Al Saunders, Dick Vermeil
OC: Norv Turner, Al Saunders
DC: [Gunther Cunningham] Dom Capers, Herman Edwards

xoxo~
gaz
wishing it were so.

ck_IN · 01-02-2001, 12:22 PM

Not bad Gaz.

I'm not too fond of Ricks on your list of WR's. If you're an offensive player and you're cut by SD that speaks volumes to me. I'm kinda hoping Lockett will remain in the fold at a decent price.

I definitly agree that we need to draft a D tackle, (Shaun Rodgers anyone) or a LB (Mr. Morgan come on down). I also think we might be in the market for a FA saftey. I'm anticipating a move to LB by Atkins.

Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:24 PM

Cannibal-

I'd like to see Grunhard come back. Maybe his 70% NO is just mouth noise. If he does retire, I can live with Willis at Center.

I like Riley at ORG because he has size but not speed. I think Riley would make a good Guard, although I have been pleasantly surprised by his play at ORT this season.

xoxo~
gaz
just tinkering right now.

Gaz · 01-02-2001, 12:28 PM

ck_IN-

I also would like to keep Lockett, but the facts suggest that will not happen:

· Lockett wants to start.
· Lockett will not start in KC.
· Carl will not pay starter's $$$ to the #3 WR.

The conclusion I reach is that Lockett is gone, much as I would prefer it otherwise.

xoxo~
gaz
sees much the same situation with Shields.

Cannibal · 01-02-2001, 12:32 PM

Riley [b]excelled[/b] at pass protection this year. He dominated Jevon Kearse, Reggie White and Mike Sinclair [among other skilled pass rushers].

Everytime Grbac was pressured it was up the middle [Blackshear], or from the outside left [Tait]. Riley gave up less than 3 or 4 sacks all year.

If you move him to OG, and put Alford at RT, just watch the sacks fall down on Girlbac like rain.

[This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 01-02-2001).]

ck_IN · 01-02-2001, 12:40 PM

So the question is who replaces Shields? Do you replace the pro-bowler with Riley a 3rd yr guy (I think) or Alford a rookie. Whichever way you go you know the other guy has to move outside. I'd be tempted to put Alford at tackle and give him TE/FB help if he needs it. Going from Shields to Riley at guard might not be such a steep dropoff as Shield to Alford.

ck_IN · 01-02-2001, 12:44 PM

Yeah Lockett wants to be a starter and get starter money. I want to be independently wealthy and date Jenny Lopez. I doubt either will happen.

Lockett simply doesn't have the speed to be a #1 or #2 WR. A Cleavland or SD might give him a shot but would Lockett want to play for a team so far down or one that's a few pieces away from something special. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lockett remain with a contract worse than starter but better than the usuall #3 WR. I can live with that.

[This message has been edited by ck_IN (edited 01-02-2001).]

Cannibal · 01-02-2001, 12:45 PM

Guard is the easiest position to fill on the O-line.

Tackle is the hardest position to fill.

I think you leave the experienced guy at Tackle put the rook at guard.

Protecting the QB is not something to be taken lightly [we are talking about Grbac you know].

I don't want to break up our young Tackle tandem for the next 10-12 years.

It's a no-brainer to me, but it's also just my opinion.

Snapper · 01-02-2001, 12:46 PM

(-) Ricks n Collins!

G_Man · 01-02-2001, 01:24 PM

I agree with Cannibal about Riley. Now that he's developed into a great RT it would be stupid to start all over at both positions.

I hate Stills at DE. Stills might never develop into a quality LB, but he SURE won't at DE. He's too small. There aren't too many LBs that can rush from a DE position. DT was the exception, not the rule.

And I would really like to see a draft pick at HB (day 1). Even if we decide to go with T-Rich (which I think would be a mistake) we should have a guy in there for insurance and for RBotF.

[This message has been edited by G_Man (edited 01-02-2001).]

01-02-2001, 12:15 PM	Topic Starter
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	QB: Grbac, Collins, FA TBD HB: Richardson, Moreau FB: FA TBD, Draft TBD [6th pick] OLT: Tait, FA TBD OLG: Blackshear, Draft TBD [5th pick] C: Willis, FA TBD ORG: Riley, FA TBD, Draft TBD [4th pick] ORT: Alford, Draft TBD [7th pick] TE: Gonzalez, Dunn, Gammon WR: Alexander, Morris, Ricks, FA TBD K: Peterson xoxo~ gaz rebuilding the OL.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:16 PM	#2
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	LDE: Hicks, Stills LDL: McGlockton, Martin RDL: Williams, Draft TBD [2nd pick] RDE: Clemmons, Browning LLB: Draft TBD [1st pick], George, FA TBD MLB: Maslowski, Patton RLB: Edwards, George LCB: Dennis, Bartee, Draft TBD [3rd pick] RCB: Hasty, FA TBD SS: Wesley, Atkins FS: Woods, Walker P: Sauerbrun xoxo~ gaz putting his bucks into the D.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:16 PM	#3
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	GONE… QB: Moon RB: Cloud, Hall, Anders, Bennett OL: Szott, Shields, Grunhard TE: Drayton WR: Lockett, Parker DL: <none> [wishing for Williams] LB: Bush CB: Grey S: <none> xoxo~ gaz wielding the big axe.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:18 PM	#4
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I still think moving Riley would be a questionable decision. Riley was the Chiefs best lineman [next to Shields] this year. I'd rather put Alford at OG. I don't like moving Riley to gaurd at all... ------------------ [img]http://www.geocities.com/cannibal1970/Peterson2.jpg[/img] I've always said this and I still believe it... Kansas City has the best fans in the NFL.
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01-02-2001, 12:20 PM	#5
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I also think Grunny agrees to a 1 or 2 year deal. ------------------ [img]http://www.geocities.com/cannibal1970/Peterson2.jpg[/img] I've always said this and I still believe it... Kansas City has the best fans in the NFL.
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01-02-2001, 12:22 PM	#6
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	HC: Al Saunders, Dick Vermeil OC: Norv Turner, Al Saunders DC: [Gunther Cunningham] Dom Capers, Herman Edwards xoxo~ gaz wishing it were so.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:22 PM	#7
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Not bad Gaz. I'm not too fond of Ricks on your list of WR's. If you're an offensive player and you're cut by SD that speaks volumes to me. I'm kinda hoping Lockett will remain in the fold at a decent price. I definitly agree that we need to draft a D tackle, (Shaun Rodgers anyone) or a LB (Mr. Morgan come on down). I also think we might be in the market for a FA saftey. I'm anticipating a move to LB by Atkins.
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01-02-2001, 12:24 PM	#8
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	Cannibal- I'd like to see Grunhard come back. Maybe his 70% NO is just mouth noise. If he does retire, I can live with Willis at Center. I like Riley at ORG because he has size but not speed. I think Riley would make a good Guard, although I have been pleasantly surprised by his play at ORT this season. xoxo~ gaz just tinkering right now.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:28 PM	#9
Gaz Defense Homer Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Rancho Gaz Casino cash: $10010793	ck_IN- I also would like to keep Lockett, but the facts suggest that will not happen: · Lockett wants to start. · Lockett will not start in KC. · Carl will not pay starter's $$$ to the #3 WR. The conclusion I reach is that Lockett is gone, much as I would prefer it otherwise. xoxo~ gaz sees much the same situation with Shields.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:32 PM	#10
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Riley [b]excelled[/b] at pass protection this year. He dominated Jevon Kearse, Reggie White and Mike Sinclair [among other skilled pass rushers]. Everytime Grbac was pressured it was up the middle [Blackshear], or from the outside left [Tait]. Riley gave up less than 3 or 4 sacks all year. If you move him to OG, and put Alford at RT, just watch the sacks fall down on Girlbac like rain. [This message has been edited by Cannibal (edited 01-02-2001).]
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01-02-2001, 12:40 PM	#11
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	So the question is who replaces Shields? Do you replace the pro-bowler with Riley a 3rd yr guy (I think) or Alford a rookie. Whichever way you go you know the other guy has to move outside. I'd be tempted to put Alford at tackle and give him TE/FB help if he needs it. Going from Shields to Riley at guard might not be such a steep dropoff as Shield to Alford.
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01-02-2001, 12:44 PM	#12
ck_IN Feels so good. Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	Yeah Lockett wants to be a starter and get starter money. I want to be independently wealthy and date Jenny Lopez. I doubt either will happen. Lockett simply doesn't have the speed to be a #1 or #2 WR. A Cleavland or SD might give him a shot but would Lockett want to play for a team so far down or one that's a few pieces away from something special. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lockett remain with a contract worse than starter but better than the usuall #3 WR. I can live with that. [This message has been edited by ck_IN (edited 01-02-2001).]
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01-02-2001, 12:45 PM	#13
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	Guard is the easiest position to fill on the O-line. Tackle is the hardest position to fill. I think you leave the experienced guy at Tackle put the rook at guard. Protecting the QB is not something to be taken lightly [we are talking about Grbac you know]. I don't want to break up our young Tackle tandem for the next 10-12 years. It's a no-brainer to me, but it's also just my opinion.<BR>
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01-02-2001, 12:46 PM	#14
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01-02-2001, 01:24 PM	#15
G_Man Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10004900	I agree with Cannibal about Riley. Now that he's developed into a great RT it would be stupid to start all over at both positions. I hate Stills at DE. Stills might never develop into a quality LB, but he SURE won't at DE. He's too small. There aren't too many LBs that can rush from a DE position. DT was the exception, not the rule. And I would really like to see a draft pick at HB (day 1). Even if we decide to go with T-Rich (which I think would be a mistake) we should have a guy in there for insurance and for RBotF. [This message has been edited by G_Man (edited 01-02-2001).]
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