Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Ed & Dave Lounge

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-10-2007, 12:23 PM  
FAX FAX is offline
testing ... 1, 2, 3
 
FAX's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Tennessee
Casino cash: $5000
Who Is The Best?

a) Offensive Coordinator in the business right now? (Someone who could run the old DV/AS scheme, or put up serious numbers, I mean? Not that it matters at this point, of course.)

b) Defensive Coordinator in the business right now?

c) General thinker and big time strategist. (In football terms, that is.)

I'm not so much interested in availability but, rather, people I can focus on in terms of how they do things. Your wisdom and insight is, as usual, highly appreciated as I look forward to increasing my football knowledge exponentially as a result of your informed responses to this somewhat ignorant thread thing.

FAX

Disclaimers: Sorry if repost. Sorry if poorly-thought-out post.
Posts: 37,639
FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.FAX is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:31 PM   #2
noa noa is offline
Band
 
noa's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2005
Casino cash: $5667
These choices apply to this year only because the NFL is about what you have done lately.

A) Marty Morningwheig (Eagles) --the Eagle's offense was #2 this year despite losing McNabb and various WR injuries. I like how they use Westbrook and Buckhalter as a combined attack. Maybe he's just the beneficiary of inheriting Brad Childress' work, but I think he did a great job this year through adversity. I was tempted to pick New Orlean's coordinator, but I think they have more offensive weapons to work with than the Eagles once the Eagles lost McNabb.

B) Rex Ryan (Ravens) -- no explanation needed for picking the Ravens D Coordinator.

C) Andy Reid. He can coach a team through any adversity imaginable and he always does a good job at replacing personnel rather than hanging on to players with diminishing abilities.
__________________
Sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes, well, he eats you.
Posts: 8,014
noa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitellinoa 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:36 PM   #3
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Country Santa Year Around
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $7035
I need to think about this. This is a question that cannot be answered offhand or with a "______sucks". I hope to gain insight into this myself as we see the discussion develop.
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 28,555
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:40 PM   #4
dirk digler dirk digler is offline
Please squeeze
 
dirk digler's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Clinton, MO
Casino cash: $6315
a) Al Saunders of course
b) Rex Ryan
c)Mike Holmgren
Posts: 48,496
dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.dirk digler 's phone was tapped by Scott Pioli.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:41 PM   #5
HonestChieffan HonestChieffan is offline
Country Santa Year Around
 
HonestChieffan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: In the Country in MO
Casino cash: $7035
You still are a Saunders guy after this season?
__________________
Frazod to KC Nitwit..."Hey, I saw a picture of some dumpy bitch with a horrible ****tarded giant back tattoo and couldn't help but think of you." Simple, Pure, Perfect. 7/31/2013

Dave Lane: "I have donated more money to people in my life as an atheist that most churches ever will."

Come home to Jesus Dave. Come home.
Posts: 28,555
HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.HonestChieffan is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:42 PM   #6
Easy 6 Easy 6 is offline
ask for it by name
 
Easy 6's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: the goldilocks zone
Casino cash: $10820
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX
a) Offensive Coordinator in the business right now? (Someone who could run the old DV/AS scheme, or put up serious numbers, I mean? Not that it matters at this point, of course.)

b) Defensive Coordinator in the business right now?

c) General thinker and big time strategist. (In football terms, that is.)

I'm not so much interested in availability but, rather, people I can focus on in terms of how they do things. Your wisdom and insight is, as usual, highly appreciated as I look forward to increasing my football knowledge exponentially as a result of your informed responses to this somewhat ignorant thread thing.

FAX

Disclaimers: Sorry if repost. Sorry if poorly-thought-out post.
A) Despite his woes in Detroit, if you give Martz the right people, he'll murderize somebody. The 1 caveat is that he would need a strong HC telling him that runs are good too.

B) I'll go with Jim Johnson from Philly, players come & go, but his squads always beat somebody up.

C) I would have to agree with Reid in Philly, between him & Johnson its no wonder they are always highly competitive.
Posts: 28,165
Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.Easy 6 is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 12:57 PM   #7
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $5030
A: Mike Solari

B: Gunther Cunningham

C: Herm Edwards

Ok just kidding:

A: Alex Gibbs is the MVP of the league on the offensive side of the football - but he's not a coordinator. Mike Martz is one of the few free thinkers in this league.

B: Either Dick LeBeau or whoever the hell Marty's coordinator is in S.D. - Don't know who he is but he does a good job running that defense.

C: Herm Edwards (seriously) - Given that ahead coach is more of a symbol than an x's and o's guy, IF he wasn't involved with his coordinators......He's one of the guys, players like him, players wanna come and play for him, that's really all you can ask.
__________________
Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman

C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with"

LOL
Posts: 2,098
B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:02 PM   #8
milkman milkman is online now
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $6965
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
A: Mike Solari

B: Gunther Cunningham

C: Herm Edwards

Ok just kidding:

A: Alex Gibbs is the MVP of the league on the offensive side of the football - but he's not a coordinator. Mike Martz is one of the few free thinkers in this league.

B: Either Dick LeBeau or whoever the hell Marty's coordinator is in S.D. - Don't know who he is but he does a good job running that defense.

C: Herm Edwards (seriously) - Given that ahead coach is more of a symbol than an x's and o's guy, IF he wasn't involved with his coordinators......He's one of the guys, players like him, players wanna come and play for him, that's really all you can ask.
SD's DC is Wade Phillips.

Who the hell cares if the players like Herman ****ing Edwards if all it nets is mediocre results?

That's all Herman ****ing Edwards has achieved.

And there are rumors that some of the Chiefs don't much care for Herman ****ing Edwards.
__________________
Posts: 64,289
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:05 PM   #9
B_Ambuehl B_Ambuehl is offline
Veteran
 

Join Date: Apr 2005
Casino cash: $5030
Quote:
SD's DC is Wade Phillips
Ahhh....I forgot he was there. That explains it. What's funny is watching his defense and then watching a defense like Dallas...even when they had Ellis.


Quote:
Who the hell cares if the players like Herman ****ing Edwards if all it nets is mediocre results?

That's all Herman ****ing Edwards has achieved.

And there are rumors that some of the Chiefs don't much care for Herman ****ing Edwards.
I guarantee you regardless of whether they're winning any games players think more of Herm Edwards than they do of Dick Vermeil...and DV was known as a "players" coach.
__________________
Who's decision was it to fire Romeo" - Coleman

C Hunt: "It was my decision but it was one that Scott agreed with"

LOL
Posts: 2,098
B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.B_Ambuehl is not part of the Right 53.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:07 PM   #10
milkman milkman is online now
Dumbass!
 
milkman's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Leading the Marty bashing
Casino cash: $6965
Quote:
Originally Posted by B_Ambuehl
I guarantee you regardless of whether they're winning any games players think more of Herm Edwards than they do of Dick Vermeil...and DV was known as a "players" coach.
And again I ask, who the hell cares.

Dick didn't win shit in KC, and Herman ****ing Edwards has about as much chance to rise above his mediocrity as I do of winning the lotto.
__________________
Posts: 64,289
milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.milkman is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:13 PM   #11
Kerberos Kerberos is offline
Chiefs Baby
 
Kerberos's Avatar
 

Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Henderson, NV
Casino cash: $5050
Offensive Coordiator: Cam Cameron ....San Diego

Defensive Coordinator: Rob Ryan ....

General all around thinker: Scott Pioli .. Pats

I think Cam is really underappreciated in the "Grand Scheme" of things in San Daeggo.

Rob Ryan might coach for the but he has one of the best defenses that play great game after game even though the OFFENSE SUCKED ASS.

How many can doubt Scott Pioli as one of the greatest thinkers in the ACTIVE NFL?


.
__________________
____________________________________________


She aint a hoe if you don't get laid, and it aint a show if I don't get paid-- Everlast

Last edited by Kerberos; 01-10-2007 at 01:29 PM..
Posts: 5,622
Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.Kerberos must have mowed badgirl's lawn.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:30 PM   #12
RJ RJ is offline
Bon vivant....occasionally.
 
RJ's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2000
Location: In a shotgun shack
Casino cash: $5027
Some various guys I admire/think are real smart:

Norm Chow, Brian Billick, Rex Ryan, Bellichick, Andy Reid, Holmgren, Jeff Fisher, Ozzie Newsome.

Sorry for not following the thread format......I also often run with scissors.....a born rebel, I am.
Posts: 14,765
RJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby PiscitelliRJ 's adopt a chief was Sabby Piscitelli
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:39 PM   #13
FringeNC FringeNC is online now
MVP
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: NC
Casino cash: $5730
That's a tough question. If you'd have asked me before the season, I would have said AS is one of the best if not the best OC in the business. Now, I think he may need DV and Solari. There is no doubt that the team of DV, Saunders, and Solari were something special -- it's hard to know how to allocate credit among the three.

If you look at what New England has done the last 5-6 years, and to a lesser extent, what Philly has done, it seems that those are the best-run franchises. Is it their front offices or coaches or both? It seems to me the thing they have in common is not blowing money on 30+ players...
Posts: 7,566
FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.FringeNC has just been standing around suckin' on a big ol' chili dog.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 01:53 PM   #14
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
BucPatriot
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $7918
Quote:
Originally Posted by FringeNC
If you look at what New England has done the last 5-6 years, and to a lesser extent, what Philly has done, it seems that those are the best-run franchises. Is it their front offices or coaches or both? It seems to me the thing they have in common is not blowing money on 30+ players...
Exactly!
__________________
Posts: 57,359
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 01-10-2007, 02:02 PM   #15
King_Chief_Fan King_Chief_Fan is offline
Praise Him
 
King_Chief_Fan's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: St. Louis MO
Casino cash: $5755
I am going with Martz on the OC. He took Detroit offense from 27th in the league to 7th.
__________________
Ephesians 2:8-10

English Standard Version (ESV)

8 For by grace you have been saved through faith. And this is not your own doing; it is the gift of God, 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, that we should walk in them.
Posts: 8,251
King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.King_Chief_Fan Forgot to Remove His Claytex and Got Toxic Shock Syndrome.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:43 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.