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Old 01-09-2009, 06:24 AM  
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2008 College Football Final Polls

AP Poll
1. Florida (48)
2. Utah (16)
3. Southern Cal (1)
4. Texas
5. Oklahoma
6. Alabama
7. TCU
8. Penn State
9. ohio state
10. Oregon
11. Boise State
12. Texas Tech
13. Georgia
14. Mississippi
15. Virginia Tech
16. Oklahoma State
17. Cincinnati
18. Oregon State
19. Missouri
20. Iowa
21. Florida State
22. Georgia Tech
23. West Virginia
24. Michigan State
25. BYU

After winning the Fiest Bowl Texas dropped and after losing the Fiesta Bowl ohio state actually moved up.

Coaches Poll
1. Florida (60)
2. USC
3. Texas
4. Utah (1)
5. Oklahoma
6. Alabama
7. TCU
8. Penn St.
9. Oregon
10. Georgia
11. ohio state
12. Texas Tech
13. Boise St
14. Virginia Tech
15. Mississippi
16. Missouri
17. Cincinnati
18. Oklahoma St
19. Oregon St
20. Iowa
21. BYU
22. Georgia Tech
23. Florida St
24. Michigan St
25. California

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Old 01-09-2009, 06:26 AM   #2
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Florida is still the only a national champion in the eyes of a majority of voters.

D1 football needs to settle this on the field.
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Old 01-09-2009, 06:56 AM   #3
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D1 football needs to settle this on the field.
Definitely. A couple more games could not hurt. Fla-Tex and USC-Utah should play this weekend with the winners playing the next weekend. It's not too much to ask a team to play up to 15 games a season if it wants to find a true undisputed national champion.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:06 AM   #4
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Definitely. A couple more games could not hurt. Fla-Tex and USC-Utah should play this weekend with the winners playing the next weekend. It's not too much to ask a team to play up to 15 games a season if it wants to find a true undisputed national champion.

Yep. It would be settled on the field.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:12 AM   #5
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Definitely. A couple more games could not hurt. Fla-Tex and USC-Utah should play this weekend with the winners playing the next weekend. It's not too much to ask a team to play up to 15 games a season if it wants to find a true undisputed national champion.
That's nice and all, but it's not the system and most likely wont be until 2014 at the earliest. The facts are that Florida, USC, Utah and everyone else agreed to this system before the start of the season. Same with Texas and the Big XII Championship tiebreak rules.

On a technical note, if there was a hypothetical playoff the entire seeding would have been different so it's not the same as saying now, "Ok the winner of UF/OU plays ___ and the winner of ___ plays ___." If there was a playoff, UF wouldn't have played OU in the 1st round.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:21 AM   #6
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That's nice and all, but it's not the system and most likely wont be until 2014 at the earliest. The facts are that Florida, USC, Utah and everyone else agreed to this system before the start of the season.
I wasn't aware that the teams all discussed this at the beginning of the year. Did all of the teams vote on how to crown a champion? Give me a break. None of those teams really agree on the system besides the one that the system worked for.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:28 AM   #7
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I wasn't aware that the teams all discussed this at the beginning of the year. Did all of the teams vote on how to crown a champion? Give me a break. None of those teams really agree on the system besides the one that the system worked for.
Uh, Utah and the Mountain West Conference agreed to the BCS system when it was put into place. Prior to the BCS mid-majors weren't included in the system, only the major conferences were. How come there weren't any articles from the Utah coach or Attorney General complaining prior to the beginning of the season??

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After a protracted round of negotiations, the Bowl Alliance was reformed into the Bowl Championship Series for the 1998 season. The Tournament of Roses Association, which operates the Rose Bowl, agreed to release the Big Ten and Pac-10 champions if it was necessary to force a national championship game. In return, the Rose Bowl was added to the yearly national championship rotation, and the game was able to keep its coveted exclusive TV time slot on the afternoon of New Year's Day. Former SEC commissioner Roy Kramer is considered to have created the BCS.[3] The new Bowl Championship Series not only included the Big Ten and the Pac-10 conferences but also teams from mid-major conferences based on performance.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:37 AM   #8
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Uh, Utah and the Mountain West Conference agreed to the BCS system when it was put into place. Prior to the BCS mid-majors weren't included in the system, only the major conferences were. How come there weren't any articles from the Utah coach or Attorney General complaining prior to the beginning of the season??
Did they have a choice between the BCS and a playoff system, or was it BCS or nothing?
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:40 AM   #9
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Did they have a choice between the BCS and a playoff system, or was it BCS or nothing?
From the BCS official website:

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The conference commissioners and the Notre Dame athletics director make decisions regarding all BCS issues, in consultation with an athletics directors advisory group and subject to the approval of a presidential oversight committee whose members represent all 117 Division 1-A programs.
If they wanted a playoff system they could bring it up. Every conference gets a vote and every university president is represented.

Regardless, Utah's coach and the Utah Attorney General weren't back in August & September.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:43 AM   #10
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Utah is the legitimate national champion. The rest is just media hype.
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If they wanted a playoff system they could bring it up. Every conference gets a vote and every university president is represented.

Regardless, Utah's coach and the Utah Attorney General weren't back in August & September.
You're just bitter because deep down you know Utah is more deserving than Florida of being called the National Champion.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:47 AM   #12
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You're just bitter because deep down you know Utah is more deserving than Florida of being called the National Champion.
Not bitter at all, my team won the National Championship. They are the only team to defeat TWO #1 teams (and by double-digit margins). They defeated 6 ranked teams throughout the season, 4 top-10 teams, 11 bowl teams, won the BCS Championship game, will finish #1 in the Final BCS Rankings, finished #1 in the Final AP Poll and the Final Coaches Poll. The haters are the ones who are bitter. I'm thrilled.
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Old 01-09-2009, 07:48 AM   #13
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That's nice and all, but it's not the system and most likely wont be until 2014 at the earliest. The facts are that Florida, USC, Utah and everyone else agreed to this system before the start of the season. Same with Texas and the Big XII Championship tiebreak rules.

On a technical note, if there was a hypothetical playoff the entire seeding would have been different so it's not the same as saying now, "Ok the winner of UF/OU plays ___ and the winner of ___ plays ___." If there was a playoff, UF wouldn't have played OU in the 1st round.
I don't know about the rest but Pete Carroll is on record that he wants and wanted a playoff and has for some time.

It sucks this is the only NCAA sport that doesn't have a playoff system.
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I'm not going to get my hopes up about Harvin or Spikes, but this is interesting:

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The question that's on the minds of every Florida fan right now as he or she celebrates the Gators' second BCS national championship in the last three years is: Why not hang around and try to win a third one?

Harvin said that's not as farfetched as some might think.

"We've all talked about coming back next season," said Harvin, referring to teammates Brandon Spikes and Tebow. "This never gets old. It's just exciting to be a part of this and be a part of a team that does everything for each other."

There's a chance he may play running back in the NFL or be one of those hybrid guys. There's also a chance he may put off the NFL for a year. And, yes, he insists he's serious.

"We've got something special going on here," Harvin said.

Special enough for the Big Three to all come back and try to win another one?

"It could happen. It really could," said Harvin, wearing his customary easy smile.


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"The upshot of that, as scary as it may sound, is that Florida could well return its entire defense next season. (Strong said afterward he expects Spikes, the lone potential draft entry, to come back). The vibe inside the Florida locker room Thursday night wasn't that of a team that just completed a journey; the Gators realize they're in the midst of accomplishing something truly special."
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