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Old 05-04-2009, 01:06 PM  
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Toyota Tundras frames rusting, guess they need to be made from real steel.

This happened on the T-100 also.

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Team 5 Discovers More Rusted-Out Frames On Toyotas
Owners Said Trucks Can't Be Repaired Or Resold
POSTED: 10:47 am EDT April 26, 2009
UPDATED: 8:24 am EDT April 27, 2009


BOSTON -- Toyota is hearing from truck owners about frames so badly rusted they can't be repaired nor replaced.

It's a problem Team 5 Investigates first uncovered last year with Tacomas. And now it appears to involve larger model Tundras as well.

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"The frame is cracked," said Tim Gatzke, owner of a 2000 Toyota Tundra. "And down in the back here, the leaf springs on this side are so corroded that they're broken."



Tim Gatzke

He said the frame on his truck is being eaten away by rust. Driven only 89,000 miles, it no longer holds power steering fluid.

"In order to fix it, you need a power steering rack," Gatzke said. "But the corrosion is so bad, there is nothing for it to get welded back onto the frame."

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Gatzke has pretty much stopped driving his truck.



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"It's aggressive corrosion that essentially makes the truck unsafe," he said. "I mean, the power steering rack at 70 mph. --- if that were to let go, that could be a really bad accident."

Bob Malone is another Tundra owner with the same complaint.

"You can see the frame rail is just orange with rust," he said.

Malone's 2000 Tundra -- driven just 72,000 -- essentially fell apart going through the car wash.

"I could literally just hear the metal chips flying off," he said, holding a rusted sheet in his hand. "This is the biggest piece I found out of the pile."



Tim Gatzke

Team 5 Investigates discovered more than two dozen complaints about 2000 and 2001 Tundras filed with the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration.

Drivers wrote, "Metal shearing off in large sheets"; "The rot caused the frame to break in half.".... (and) "Poked my finger right through the cross member."

Frustrated Tundra owners told NHTSA: "My truck is undriveable and unfixable." ... "It will not pass the next inspection." ... (and) "I cannot drive my car or even sell it as is."

"What needs to happen is, Toyota needs to recall these trucks," said Sean Kane, a national safety expert who believes the rust problem with older Tundras may be the same one plaguing more than 800,000 Tacoma trucks built between 1995 and 2000. As Team 5 Investigates first reported last year, those model years did not have adequate corrosion protection, causing the frames to disintegrate from rust.



Bob Malone

Toyota agreed --- and offered buyback deals for one-and-a-half times the vehicle's Blue Book value.

"Toyota really does need to step up here and extend that warranty beyond the vehicles that they've already covered to include any vehicles of theirs that has this kind of problem," Kane said.

In a written statement, Toyota told Team 5 Investigates that they've had only a small number of complaints and are investigating each one. They said, "using the information obtained from the Tacoma, we pro-actively investigate other vehicles of similar design and production elements." The company added, it "takes great pride in the durability and quality of our products."

Toyota wouldn't disclose how many rusted Tundras they've heard about or what they're doing for the owners.

"I'm pretty incensed," Malone said. "If you call them up, they just ignore you and hope you'll go away. I don't know what it's going to take."

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Old 05-04-2009, 01:07 PM   #2
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no wonder american cars are kicking toyota's ass
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:10 PM   #3
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Sounds like a made up story from Howie Long to me.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:11 PM   #4
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:11 PM   #5
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Yep, we have a good friend/customer who had a Tundra in mint condition. Took it in to Toyota, the frame was crazy rusted, they bought his truck from him, and gave him a heck of a deal on another one. I would of just taken the money, but they gave him a really good deal on a new truck, so he took it.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:24 PM   #6
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this thread makes me miss my old tacoma.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:32 PM   #7
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Yes because no American cars ever rust.
I have never, ever heard of an American made truck, have frame issues. If you have any information to the contrary, bring it on.
Toyota has had a history of it.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:35 PM   #8
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Yes because no American cars ever rust.
lol a rusty frame after 9 years..... you work for or drive a toyota or something?
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:37 PM   #9
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:41 PM   #10
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Made by american workers?
They're all made in San Antonio Texas, or Evansville Indiana.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:56 PM   #11
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lol a rusty frame after 9 years..... you work for or drive a toyota or something?

heh. no, i just like yankin on Ed's chain.
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Old 05-04-2009, 01:59 PM   #12
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Anyone know if this is only around Boston, or all over?
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:09 PM   #13
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I have never, ever heard of an American made truck, have frame issues. If you have any information to the contrary, bring it on.
Toyota has had a history of it.
That’s what killed Welding Buddy’s Toyota.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:11 PM   #14
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Anyone know if this is only around Boston, or all over?
All over. I've seen a few sidelined with it here in Kansas.
It’s probably worse in the Rust Belt though.
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Old 05-04-2009, 02:25 PM   #15
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Anyone know if this is only around Boston, or all over?
All over, but im sure the snow and salt just makes it happen quicker.
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