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Old 01-23-2011, 10:58 AM  
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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 08-02-2013, 09:38 PM   #5596
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Went shopping with the wife today. He had a blast buying a couple of handguns for her to carry. Shocked at how much fun she had.
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Old 08-03-2013, 08:54 AM   #5597
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(1) 500-round brick of Remington Thunderbolt .22 LR
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(1) 500-round ammo can of Federal Game-Shok .22 Mag

There was supposed to be a limit on how much .22 you could buy, but the lady at the register didn't know any better.

They might have enough of the Remington bricks to last until lunch time.
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Old 08-03-2013, 09:11 AM   #5598
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Went shopping with the wife today. He had a blast buying a couple of handguns for her to carry. Shocked at how much fun she had.

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Old 08-03-2013, 11:06 AM   #5599
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I got 20 boxes of Remington 9mm at Fleet Farm last night. They have a 10 box limit, but my wife was with me. I knew .22 LR was difficult or nearly impossible to find but 9 mm?
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:41 AM   #5600
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I got 20 boxes of Remington 9mm at Fleet Farm last night. They have a 10 box limit, but my wife was with me. I knew .22 LR was difficult or nearly impossible to find but 9 mm?
It depends where you are. Not only have 9mm come back strong around here, you can skip rocks off .223 rounds again for a decent price. I think 6500 rounds of .223 is enough for now, in fact, I need to burn some of that up this month.
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Old 08-03-2013, 11:58 AM   #5601
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Old 08-03-2013, 01:14 PM   #5602
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:09 PM   #5603
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A normal 5.56 round is 1200-1300 ft/lbs
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:18 PM   #5604
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Where is Kaepernick when you need him? This dude was the ****ing Nostradamus of the Alex Smith effect...

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Old 08-03-2013, 02:36 PM   #5605
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Mauser 9mm German Gesichert
P08 lugers go from $500 to $10,000 & up.

It basically takes a book like the one of the following big fat books to answer your question.





Common variations of all matching Lugers in excellent condition are usually around $1,500 to $3,000.

If it is stamped with a year on the top of the receiver, then it is likely German military of some kind. There should be a manufacturers stamp atop the toggle.

The backbreaker is when the stamped numbers on the gun parts don't match. For good value you MUST have an all matching gun. The Germans were anal their military guns were stamped on the receiver, the barrel, the toggle pin, the safety, the trigger, the takedown lever -- everything but the grips basically. One part with a different number crashes your value down to low value.

If it is non-military like a "commercial" gun, then you won't have the stamped numbers, but then they aren't worth that much anyway. There are a lot less commercial unstamped guns today, because the sheisters used many of these unstamped guns to fake rare or valuable lugers, since they were blank slates they could stamp without removing any metal to do so.

There is just no telling what your luger is worth without knowing some details if it is military (Mauser or Kreighoff), if it is WWI or WWII, early or late War WWII, Swiss or Portuguese or American Eagle or what have you.

There are just hundreds of variations of these things. Not a hobby for the meek.It is easy to get ripped off if you don't have a thorough knowledge of what you are buying.
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Where is Kaepernick when you need him? This dude was the ****ing Nostradamus of the Alex Smith effect...

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Old 08-03-2013, 02:54 PM   #5606
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Old 08-03-2013, 02:59 PM   #5607
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Anybody know what this is worth?
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Your luger looks like an early war military Mauser.

You said it was a Mauser, so check.

What is the date on it?

I know your gun is military because of the 3 acceptance stamps on the right side of the receiver in the picture.

Look at the trigger, take down lever and mag release. They are not blued. They are a goldish color, called "straw". In the early days of the German war machine in WWII, Lugers were highly crafted. As Germany began losing the war, guns got rougher and manufacturers took more shortcuts.

The goldish strawing is from baking the metal in a hardening process that yields an outside coating that is more durable than bluing, so they used that process for the guns parts that would be touched a lot by fingers, such as the trigger and the safety, etc.

The significance of the goldish parts is they were only used on the lugers made between 1934 and half way through 1937.

If you had a 1934, it would have a "K" on the top of the receiver, and be called a "K-date" and is VERY RARE and valuable.

G is 1935, and build quality of those lugers is excellent. Being so early in the war, many G's survived the war in excellent condition rather than seeing front line use.

In 1936, Hitler quit trying to hide the fact they were re-arming and Mauser started blatantly putting the date on the guns.

So your gun should have either a K, G, 1936 or 1937 stamped on the top of the receiver.

Other than that, the blue on the receiver seems terribly worn, unless that is just a bad photo. That will knock the price way down.

"Gesichert" is just German for "secured" or "safe". When you see it, it means your safety is in the "safe" position and the gun can't fire. It is on every Luger written beneath the safety.

Here is a site with lugers and prices.

http://www.simpsonltd.com/index.php?...2826d261f7958f

That is just the list for Mausers. The main site has the links for most of the Luger varations, and there are many of them. Just remember, the prices you are seeing on the list are for guns in very good to excellent condition, and the gun in your picture is fair to poor if the receiver is missing all that bluing it appears to be missing.

Maybe you can find a similar gun to yours on it, but the condition isn't too good and everything comes down to having ALL matching numbers on the gun. One bad number and POOF, low value.

The ONLY exception to that is that sometimes the toggle pin will have an s/42 on it instead of the gun's original number. Most collectors won't hold that against you. That means that during the war, somebody lost the toggle pin and a field armory just replaced it with another pin stamped with s/42 to show that it was a genuine OEM replacement part meant for that gun.

Good luck. Luger buying is as much art as science.
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Yes, good trigger discipline but probably shouldn't be pointing the muzzle toward the camera man. 1 for 2. Nice combo of girl and gun though...
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Where is Kaepernick when you need him? This dude was the ****ing Nostradamus of the Alex Smith effect...

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