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Old 03-23-2011, 09:03 PM  
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***Official Chiefs Visit/Workout/Met Thread***

It stands to reason that we will select players that we have met with, hosted for a visit, and/or had them work out for us. Why would you draft someone without setting up a meeting or talking with them? Obviously we won't be able to track phone calls, private meetings, etc... but we may as well list what we do know.

I know that ArrowheadPride keeps a really solid list in table format, but I haven't seen it updated since January. I figured we could start compiling that info here as well, even if its just borrowed from other websites like AP and PFT, among others.

I will edit this post when someone posts updated info.

PFT's list: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...kouts-tracker/


Kansas City Chiefs as of 4/16/11
  • Ohio WR Terrence McCrae
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 194
    40: 4.45
    Pos. Rank: 106
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


    Florida OLB Justin Trattou
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 255
    40: 4.79
    Pos. Rank: 29
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • North Carolina FB Ryan Taylor
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 250
    40: 4.76
    Pos. Rank: 9
    Proj.Round -
    Video: None Found

  • Temple DT Muhammad Wilkerson
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 315
    40: 5.09
    Pos. Rank: 5 (1 spot ahead of Phil Taylor)
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • TCU QB Andy Dalton
    Height: 6"2"
    Weight: 215
    40: 4.82
    Pos. Rank: 6
    Proj.Round 2-3
    Video:


  • Idaho QB Nathan Enderle
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 240
    40: 5.12
    Pos. Rank: 16
    Proj.Round 7-FA
    Video:


  • Delaware QB Pat Devlin
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 225
    40: 4.81
    Pos. Rank: 9
    Proj.Round 4-5
    Video:


  • Georgia OLB Justin Houston
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 270
    40: 4.62
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • South Carolina FS Chris Culliver
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 199
    40: 4.36
    Pos. Rank: 5
    Proj.Round 4
    Video:


  • Central Florida OT Jah Reid
    Height: 6'7"
    Weight: 327
    40: 5.32
    Pos. Rank: 21
    Proj.Round 7-FA
    Video:


  • Missouri DE Aldon Smith
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 263
    40: 4.74
    Pos. Rank: 5
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Lehigh G Will Rackley
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 309
    40: 5.27
    Pos. Rank: 5
    Proj.Round 3rd
    Video:


  • Oklahoma FS Quinton Carter
    Height: 6'1
    Weight: 208
    40: 4.57
    Pos. Rank: 2
    Proj.Round 2-3
    Video:


  • Boston College OT Anthony Castonzo
    Height: 6'7
    Weight: 311
    40: 5.21
    Pos. Rank: 1
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Iowa DE Christian Ballard
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 283
    40: 4.75
    Pos. Rank: 49
    Proj.Round 2
    Video:


  • Michigan G Stephen Schilling
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 308
    40: 5.18
    Pos. Rank: 6
    Proj.Round 3-4
    Video:


  • Tennessee TE Luke Stocker
    Height: 6'5
    Weight: 258
    40: 4.68
    Pos. Rank: 2
    Proj.Round 2
    Video:


  • Pittsburgh OT Jason Pinkston
    Height: 6'3
    Weight: 317
    40: 5.39
    Pos. Rank: 11
    Proj.Round 3-4
    Video: None Found

  • East Carolina WR Dwayne Harris
    Height: 5'10
    Weight: 203
    40: 4.53
    Pos. Rank: 23
    Proj.Round 5-6
    Video:


  • USC C Kris O'Dowd
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 304
    40: 5.12
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round 3-4
    Video:


  • Louisville RB Bilal Powell
    Height: 5'11
    Weight: 207
    40: 4.54
    Pos. Rank: 16
    Proj.Round 5
    Video:


  • Cal DE Cameron Jordan
    Height: 6'4
    Weight: 287
    40: 4.74
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Wyoming WR David Leonard
    Height: 6'3
    Weight: 204
    40: 4.59
    Pos. Rank: 162
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Ole Miss DT Jerrel Powe
    Height: 6'2
    Weight: 335
    40: 5.25
    Pos. Rank: 13
    Proj.Round 2-3
    Video: (starts at 1:30, listed as a "slider")


  • Eastern Washington RB Taiwan Jones
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 194
    40: 4.53
    Pos. Rank: 11
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Nevada QB Colin Kaepernik
    Height: 6'5"
    Weight: 233
    40: 4.53
    Pos. Rank: 7
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • Virginia Tech RB Ryan Williams
    Height: 5'9"
    Weight: 212
    40: 4.59
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round 2-3
    Video:


  • Baylor DT Phil Taylor
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 334
    40: 5.09
    Pos. Rank: 6
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • UNC QB TJ Yates
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 219
    40: 5.06
    Pos. Rank: 15
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Miami WR Leonard Hankerson
    Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 209
    40: 4.40
    Pos. Rank: 4
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • Notre Dame LB Brian Smith
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 235
    40: 4.72
    Pos. Rank: 47
    Proj.Round -
    Video: No game film, but here's an interview:


  • Abilene Christian WR Edmund Gates
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 192
    40: 4.31
    Pos. Rank: 9
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • USC OT Tyron Smith
    Height: 6'5"
    Weight: 307
    40: 5.08
    Pos. Rank: 2
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Utah State CB Chris Randle
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 191
    40: 4.59
    Pos. Rank: 93
    Proj.Round -
    Video: The only film I could find on him was a huge mistake on a play:


  • Nebraska CB Prince Amukamara
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 206
    40: 4.38
    Pos. Rank: 2
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Florida C/G Mike Pouncey
    Height: 6'5"
    Weight: 303
    40: 5.12
    Pos. Rank: 1
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Iowa DE Christian Ballard
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 283
    40: 4.75
    Pos. Rank: 10
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Illinois WR Jarred Fayson
    Height: 6'1"
    Weight: 215
    40: 4.51
    Pos. Rank: 73
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Kansas* DE Jamal Greene *dismissed from team
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 303
    40: -
    Pos. Rank: -
    Proj.Round -
    Video: Crime: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YzNWp3D2be4 (HS Hightlights: http://rivals.yahoo.com/video/recrui...nsas-Cit-13818 )

  • Utah State CB Curtis Marsh
    Height: 6'1"
    Weight: 197
    40: 4.42
    Pos. Rank: 14
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Clemson CB/S Marcus Gilchrist
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 195
    40: 4.45
    Pos. Rank: 12
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • UCLA OLB Akeem Ayers
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 254
    40: 4.81
    Pos. Rank: 2
    Proj.Round 1
    Video:


  • Illinois DT Corey Liuget
    Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 298
    40: 4.97
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • Kansas State RB Daniel Thomas
    Height: 6'0"
    Weight: 230
    40: 4.6
    Pos. Rank: 2-5
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Mississippi State OT Derek Sherrod
    Height: 6'5"
    Weight: 321
    40: 5.18
    Pos. Rank: 5
    Proj.Round 1-2
    Video:


  • Miami RB Damien Berry
    Height: 5'10"
    Weight: 211
    40: 4.58
    Pos. Rank: 25
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Middle Tennessee State RB Phillip Tanner
    Height: 5'11"
    Weight: 208
    40: 4.59
    Pos. Rank: 76
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Wayne State TE Austin Hughes
    Height: 6'4"
    Weight: 269
    40: -
    Pos. Rank: -
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Virginia Union OT David Mims
    Height: 6'8"
    Weight: 331
    40: 5.32
    Pos. Rank: 29
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Fresno State OLB Chris Carter
    Height: 6'1"
    Weight: 248
    40: 4.58
    Pos. Rank: 8
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Nebraska-Kearney DE Mason Brodine
    Height: 6'7"
    Weight: 252
    40: 4.84
    Pos. Rank: 85
    Proj.Round -
    Video: No film available

  • Central Missouri State WR Jamorris Warren
    Height: 6'
    Weight: 193
    40: 4.66
    Pos. Rank: 83
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Yale FB Shane Bannon
    Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 265
    40: 4.69
    Pos. Rank: -
    Proj.Round -
    Video: No game film, but this guy is a goober.


  • Cal FS Chris Conte
    Height: 6'2"
    Weight: 197
    40: 4.52
    Pos. Rank: 3
    Proj.Round -
    Video: The lone white guy, #17. Blocked punt for a TD. Also, Clancy Pendergast is his coach.


  • Cincinatti C Jason Kelce
    Height: 6'3"
    Weight: 280
    40: 4.89
    Pos. Rank: 7
    Proj.Round -
    Video:


  • Walsh University WR Joe Morgan
    Height: 6'1"
    Weight: 189
    40: 4.40
    Pos. Rank: 58
    Proj.Round -
    Video:



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Old 03-23-2011, 10:37 PM   #3
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Looking at that list it seems that Phil Taylor will have a late go around with teams since he hasn't visited anyone
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Looking at that list it seems that Phil Taylor will have a late go around with teams since he hasn't visited anyone
Yeah, I will update whenever we do meet with him, and anyone else. I can't imagine we wouldn't chat with him.

I'm not sure who has had their pro day, or who we've gone specifically to watch, either. So if and when we get those tid-bits, I will update as well.

I really think we will draft a majority of our picks from guys we meet with, so we may as well get to talking about these guys in addition to whoever else CP is jerking off to at any given moment.
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Ten plus years ago, draft intel such as 40 times, injuries, private workouts and visits were secret, sacred and difficult to obtain. The agents controlled (and still do) most of the information that went to the media. Mel Kiper was like Halloween’s Elvira who only came out about one month out of the year, and the Combine and Senior bowl were void of the mass media.

Times have really changed: Today, the Combine is on TV, there are over 50 websites dedicated to the draft, the Senior Bowl and Combine are flooded with media members and every move made by a team or draftee is quickly announced for public consumption. More NFL sites and TV outlets are now covering draft prospects 9 months out of the year.

The days of teams moving secretly on campus to conduct private workouts are over. I know for a fact that the majority of agents leak their clients' workouts with hopes of generating interest from other teams and in order to paint the picture of inflated interest.

But does the media coverage have an impact on the outcome of the draft and its participants?

Media Evaluations of talent

When looking at mock drafts and player rankings the media doesn’t have the whole picture to make the most accurate projections. What they do have is combine data, glimpses of players from all-star games, and some game highlight shots. Some may even have all the TV tape (not coaches tape) of all the games. Most get second hand reports from pro days that the media was excluded from and others have a direct conduit to scouts and even directors.

What they don’t have are the important pieces of the puzzle that have a huge impact on what decisions are ultimately made on draft day. The media lacks access to college injury files, Combine physical reports, first hand character reports from college coaches and teammates, and the whispers that come from college trainers and position and strength coaches who usually know more about the players than anyone.

They also are not privy to the results of intense one-on-one film study and grease board sessions conducted at the senior bowl, the combine, and private campus workouts. Thus, a big part of the puzzle is missing to make a true and accurate evaluation.

The media have very little impact on how a team will set its draft board. Although, there are some owners who are obsessed with public opinion and get daily clippings to keep up with general information flow. If a draftee does have some character issues in which the media is well aware of, it may sway management to avoid that particular player on draft day.

Agent Propaganda

It’s the agents' job to do whatever it takes to help get his or her player drafted as high as possible. Thus, we are usually giving the media heaping spoonfuls of information that is beneficial to our client’s image and draft stock. Agents right now are exaggerating 40 times, the amount of private workouts and visits, along with getting their clients multiple interviews in different markets with hopes of heightening their profile. Both big and small media are eating up whatever we are serving. And yes, I have been guilty of all the above.

The agent hype machine can make a big impact in the media but it doesn’t really translate to moving up the board. If players and their families start believing everything they are reading it usually sets the player up for a long and disappointing draft weekend.

Blaine GabbertBlaine Gabbert has reportedly met with several NFL teams, but which are really interested in drafting the QB?

The team visit; a smoke screen?

One longtime scouting director told me that if he were interested in a QB, he would not bring in him for a visit and bring in one he had no interest in drafting. The reason for this was that it would leak out and he didn’t want to show his hand to the other teams.

Last year, client LB Pat Angerer had only one visit to the Saints and was eventually drafted in the 2nd round by the Colts who showed very little interest in him throughout the whole evaluation process. The Saints did not draft a linebacker in 2010. Iowa gives NFL personnel quality access to their players so there’s little need for re-checks via a visit.

Many teams use their allotted visits for a closer medical check, character check, and to “recruit” potential priority undrafted free agents. They also use them to send mixed messages to other teams using the media to do so. So don’t read too much into a team visit. More visits do not equate into more interest.

NFL teams have been known to use some media produced mock drafts in their war room as an added tool to guess what other teams may do. However, I believe the media has little effect on the outcome of the draft. The exception is in a case where the media has a negative character mark on a player and produces content about him frequently.

It’s been my experience since being in the business that NFL teams give very little clues as to who they will draft. 50% of the time, my clients will be drafted by teams that did not have a private workout or a team visit. Not to say speculating isn’t fun and entertaining.
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