Home Mail MemberMap Chat (0) Wallpapers
Go Back   ChiefsPlanet > The Lounge > D.C.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-07-2012, 08:56 AM  
Mr. Kotter Mr. Kotter is offline
Lookin' for the answers...
 
Mr. Kotter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Somewhere else
Casino cash: $3880
GOP, 2012: Angry White Men and Their Women

Honestly, that is what the Republican party has become. Think about it...

Think about most of the obnoxious conservatives in this forum: Angry White Men....it says it all. They've been drinking the Limbaugh, Hannity, and Beck Kool-Aid for over 20 years now. Is it really surprising, then, that the party no longer appeals to anyone else--especially with their seething contempt and venomous attacks toward anyone who dares to disagree with them?

The Democrats went though a similar thing...between 1968 and 1988, when they lost 5 out of 6 Presidential elections, because they were out-of-touch with the country (too beholden to bleeding heart liberals and minorities.) Between 1992 and 2012, the Republicans have now lost the popular vote for President in 5 of the 6 elections, for the same reason (too beholden to the Tea Party and talk radio addicts.)

Until the GOP admits they have a a big problem, and are out-of-touch, and seek to moderate their policies and rhetoric....they will remain the party of Angry White Men and the Women Who Love Them. They must find ways to appeal to larger numbers of Blacks, Asians, women, and Hispanics--otherwise they are screwed. And they will continue to struggle to win national elections.

It's simple math. Demographic shifts have become political inertia, and the GOP has to recognize that reality--instead of pretending not to notice.

In 1992, Clinton brought the Democratic party back toward the mainstream. For the GOP to turn things around in 2016, they'll need to do the same thing. Whenever political parties are sucked into lunatic fringe politics, they alienate the voters who matter--in our republic, a majority. Republicans had better soon remember the role of majority rule in our country, or they may yet become this century's version of the Whigs.
Posts: 40,104
Mr. Kotter has disabled reputation
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:43 PM   #316
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23801
Quote:
Originally Posted by HemiEd View Post
Romney was successful at business, no matter how you cut it. He knows how free enterprise works. What he did, was how things were being done, and it was legal free enterprise. Do I like all of it? No.

But I think he would have taken those same skills and turned them in our favor.
I think he was better on market principles however, he's received bailouts and engaged in banksterism himself. More like a mercantilist. He's not exactly a real free-market guy. Just better than Obama. I only voted for him, over Johnson, to get Obamacare repealed. Now I cuss Roberts.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,906
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #317
NewChief NewChief is offline
Greenbacker and Loving Liberal
 
NewChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Casino cash: $9849
Quote:
Originally Posted by htismaqe View Post
A family of 6 (2 parents and 4 children) making $85K per year can qualify for HAWK-I and get all 4 kids insured for $40 a month.
I have a special needs kid who I carry on my insurance. I still have to pay another $130 a month (on top of the $600 I pay for me and my kids premiums on my "regular" insurance) to carry him on TEFRA (our state's medicaid for these situations). I have to do this mainly to cover his therapies and in case he has to have brain surgery, cat scans, and other crazy shit that isn't covered by our insurance (still paying off a $2000 radiology bill at Children's Mercy in KC from before we got on the TEFRA).

The medical/insurance shit is going to kill us as a country (irony), but it sounds like I need to move to Iowa, heh.
__________________
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
- H. L. Mencken
Posts: 19,444
NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:44 PM   #318
RedNeckRaider RedNeckRaider is offline
Got highway?
 
RedNeckRaider's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $11369
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brock View Post
Nothing says presidential like being born on third base.
"The easiest way to make a million dollars is to start with $900.000" author unknown~
__________________
It would indeed be a tragedy if the history of the human race proved to be nothing more than the story of an ape playing with a box of matches on a petrol dump.
David Ormsby Gore~
Posts: 24,705
RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:45 PM   #319
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23801
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief View Post
I have a special needs kid who I carry on my insurance. I still have to pay another $130 a month (on top of the $600 I pay for me and my kids premiums on my "regular" insurance) to carry him on TEFRA (our state's medicaid for these situations). I have to do this mainly to cover his therapies and in case he has to have brain surgery, cat scans, and other crazy shit that isn't covered by our insurance (still paying off a $2000 radiology bill at Children's Mercy in KC from before we got on the TEFRA).

The medical/insurance shit is going to kill us as a country (irony), but it sounds like I need to move to Iowa, heh.
That's just aweful financially and otherwise. Sorry to hear that.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,906
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:47 PM   #320
NewChief NewChief is offline
Greenbacker and Loving Liberal
 
NewChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Casino cash: $9849
Quote:
Originally Posted by Radar Chief View Post
Anecdotal I know, but about the only people on welfare I personally know are Mrs. Radar’s step brothers and sisters that all live in and around Humboldt, KS. Couple of generations deep into welfare riding, worthless assed meth cooking burdens on society, and they’re all staunch Democrats.
Oh man, you need to move down here. Some of my inlaws (my brother's wife's family) are insane. They have no jobs at all. They move from church to church mooching off the congregation and take as many handouts as they can from the government. Meanwhile, they're preaching it up on Facebook about how Obama is the devil and Democrats are leading us down the road to communism.
__________________
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
- H. L. Mencken
Posts: 19,444
NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:47 PM   #321
RedNeckRaider RedNeckRaider is offline
Got highway?
 
RedNeckRaider's Avatar
 

Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Close to the big pond~
Casino cash: $11369
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief View Post
I have a special needs kid who I carry on my insurance. I still have to pay another $130 a month (on top of the $600 I pay for me and my kids premiums on my "regular" insurance) to carry him on TEFRA (our state's medicaid for these situations). I have to do this mainly to cover his therapies and in case he has to have brain surgery, cat scans, and other crazy shit that isn't covered by our insurance (still paying off a $2000 radiology bill at Children's Mercy in KC from before we got on the TEFRA).

The medical/insurance shit is going to kill us as a country (irony), but it sounds like I need to move to Iowa, heh.
Dang bro that is tough you are one of the good guys, I wish you the best~
__________________
It would indeed be a tragedy if the history of the human race proved to be nothing more than the story of an ape playing with a box of matches on a petrol dump.
David Ormsby Gore~
Posts: 24,705
RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.RedNeckRaider is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:51 PM   #322
NewChief NewChief is offline
Greenbacker and Loving Liberal
 
NewChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Fayetteville, AR
Casino cash: $9849
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
That's just aweful financially and otherwise. Sorry to hear that.
Yeah. I really need to investigate other options (maybe an HSA). Most of his therapy is getting covered through school these day, so it's mainly carrying the TEFRA for catastrophic shit (as they cover absolutely everything, no copay, no nothing). Still, there have to be better options out there, since we're no longer doing the huge amount of therapies we once needed.

And on the personal side: he's doing awesome! Started him in karate, which is teaching him a lot about body control. He's had to repeat 1st grade, but he seems to really be making progress finally. He's always seemed about a year behind. We just hope he doesn't eventually "top out" and stop maturing and get "stuck" at a certain developmental age.
__________________
In this world of sin and sorrow there is always something to be thankful for; as for me, I rejoice that I am not a Republican.
- H. L. Mencken
Posts: 19,444
NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.NewChief has enough rep power to blowy ou to bits.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 06:51 PM   #323
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23801
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief View Post
Oh man, you need to move down here. Some of my inlaws (my brother's wife's family) are insane. They have no jobs at all. They move from church to church mooching off the congregation and take as many handouts as they can from the government. Meanwhile, they're preaching it up on Facebook about how Obama is the devil and Democrats are leading us down the road to communism.
So I have a cousin who extols the virtues of Italian communism and like Mussolini. Yet, she has inherited a large portion of her wealth from the Republicans in her family.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,906
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:06 PM   #324
Direckshun Direckshun is online now
Black for Palestine
 
Direckshun's Avatar
 

Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Springpatch
Casino cash: $23999
Quote:
Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 View Post
Rush brought up some good points today.....
Ho boy.
__________________
Posts: 46,886
Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.Direckshun is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:18 PM   #325
Radar Chief Radar Chief is offline
Wearing ballistic dog goggles.
 
Radar Chief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: In the box.
Casino cash: $10442
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief View Post
Oh man, you need to move down here. Some of my inlaws (my brother's wife's family) are insane. They have no jobs at all. They move from church to church mooching off the congregation and take as many handouts as they can from the government. Meanwhile, they're preaching it up on Facebook about how Obama is the devil and Democrats are leading us down the road to communism.
No thanks, we've got more than enough crazy right here.
Let me fill you in on these winners though.
One of Mrs. Radar's step sisters has a couple of girls. The oldest is 18 with two kids, the youngest is a 14 year old that she was shoving off on a 22 year old "boy friend", basically a drunk to get her pregnant, so that she could get her daughter "in the system". The daughter was caught by police driving her "boy friend" around at 2 a.m. because he was too drunk to drive. They go to court, judge tells the girl he's placing her in a foster family so she starts freaking out saying she won't go. Judge flips out and says, "Look little Missy! The time for games is OVER! You WILL do what this court orders or you WILL go to big girl jail!"
After a few months in foster care her grades have jumped to A's and B's, she was a failing student, and after living a normal life she doesn't want to go back to the meth cooking psychos. Good for her, I hope she wins her freedom from them because it was a one way road.
Want to hear about some of the others? Like one of Mrs. Radar's step brothers cashed in a months worth of food stamps and instead of filling the empty cabinates with food for the rest of the family he bought a couple of fighting chickens. He considered it an investment.
Until the in-laws sold the farm and moved into town they kept telling me if Mrs. Radar's step dad ever died I'd have to take up guard duty in his barn with a shotgun because they would be there taking what they think is theirs. Now that they've moved into town he sold off the majority of tools they could sell for meth so it's not that much of a problem anymore.
I could go on.
__________________
Like "Cool Hand" Luke I'm busting rocks.

__/|_/[___]
|/ \\_| ---OllllO
_( ))~-( ))-0--))
Posts: 22,897
Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.Radar Chief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:41 PM   #326
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Brainwashed
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Swims with fishes
Casino cash: $19249
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by NewChief View Post
I hate to tell you guys this, but all democratic voters aren't dependent on social services. I know it's comforting to believe that and dismiss the other side as a bunch of lazy assholes who don't know how to work, but it's not true. On top of that, there are PLENTY of voters who take social services and vote solidly Republican.

This dismissive, reductionist attitude toward the opposition is, once again, one of the reasons that the GOP is struggling.
They will eventually learn that lesson.

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned.............. Romney's votes were 89% white.
__________________
If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu
Posts: 44,947
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:43 PM   #327
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23801
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
They will eventually learn that lesson.

Just in case it hasn't been mentioned.............. Romney's votes were 89% white.
I thought a color blind society was not supposed to note something like that?
That's reverse racism.
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,906
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:50 PM   #328
DaveNull DaveNull is offline
Veteran
 
DaveNull's Avatar
 

Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Villa Straylight
Casino cash: $8169
Interesting chart of last nights election results how federal spending nets out by state.

Posts: 1,345
DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.DaveNull would the whole thing.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:54 PM   #329
BigRedChief BigRedChief is online now
Brainwashed
 
BigRedChief's Avatar
 

Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Swims with fishes
Casino cash: $19249
VARSITY
Quote:
Originally Posted by BucEyedPea View Post
I thought a color blind society was not supposed to note something like that?
That's reverse racism.
Heard it on the news this pm. They were talking about why Obama won. His coalition. The social economic groups that went with Obama vs. who went with romeny.

They listed everything. Catholics, young, educated, southerners, moms, Dad's, single moms etc.etc.

Romney won 5 of those groups. Obama won like 28.
__________________
If you don't have a seat at the table, you're probably on the menu
Posts: 44,947
BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.BigRedChief is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-07-2012, 07:55 PM   #330
BucEyedPea BucEyedPea is offline
Bless FSU!
 
BucEyedPea's Avatar
 

Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: None of your business
Casino cash: $23801
Quote:
Originally Posted by BigRedChief View Post
Heard it on the news this pm. They were talking about why Obama won. His coalition. The social economic groups that went with Obama vs. who went with romeny.

They listed everything. Catholics, young, educated, southerners, moms, Dad's, single moms etc.etc.

Romney won 5 of those groups. Obama won like 28.
Must be mostly those getting stuff. That's how it was in my kid's dorm.
I wonder, did they post Bibi's reaction to the election results?
__________________
“The power to declare war, including the power of judging the causes of war, is fully and exclusively vested in the legislature.” ~ James Madison, Father of the Constitution

“We do not believe in aggressive or preventive war. Such war is the weapon of dictators, not of free democratic countries like the United States.”~ Truman, Sept 1, 1950
Posts: 59,906
BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.BucEyedPea is obviously part of the inner Circle.
  Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump




All times are GMT -6. The time now is 03:59 PM.


This is a test for a client's site.
A new website that shows member-created construction site listings that need fill or have excess fill. Dirt Monkey @ https://DirtMonkey.net
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.