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Old 04-27-2013, 11:41 PM   #1
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when is the last time we didn't take a QB to avoid upsetting our current starter?
This is just speculation by some, most of whom don't like Alex Smith as their QB. I wouldn't take this as a hurts feelings things on just that. They did sign Bray to a low contract undrafted, but I've heard that was just to piss of Miami for offering so little for Albert. Miami was reported to have reached an agreement with them.
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Old 04-27-2013, 11:42 PM   #2
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Old 04-28-2013, 12:58 AM   #3
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Hard to swallow.


What a horrible draft. Glad I didn't stick around for the whole thing. I would have wasted valuable time. Reid is a complete moron. Never go all in on a guy like Alex Smith. Your offseason is a complete joke.

That's all
I disagree.

It's Clark you should be mad at. IMO, he told Andy to win and win now and when they looked at things and in their opinion didn't feel anyone in the draft could do that immediately they went with Alex.

As far as the rest of the off season, they have built this offense around the QB to use his skill set (or lack thereof). OL, TE, more depth @ RB/FB. One WR in Avery to try and stretch the D.

This is how Reid thinks he can be most competitive and win now. Is it gonna bring a SB win to KC? I doubt it. But like I've said before, I don't have the blinders on with Andy. I think he can rebuild, make the Chiefs competitive again and then I'm hoping in 3-5 years a young up and coming assistant takes over and between him and Dorsey make the changes to a more new age "wave" NFL team.
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Old 04-28-2013, 10:31 AM   #4
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I disagree.

It's Clark you should be mad at. IMO, he told Andy to win and win now and when they looked at things and in their opinion didn't feel anyone in the draft could do that immediately they went with Alex.

As far as the rest of the off season, they have built this offense around the QB to use his skill set (or lack thereof). OL, TE, more depth @ RB/FB. One WR in Avery to try and stretch the D.

This is how Reid thinks he can be most competitive and win now. Is it gonna bring a SB win to KC? I doubt it. But like I've said before, I don't have the blinders on with Andy. I think he can rebuild, make the Chiefs competitive again and then I'm hoping in 3-5 years a young up and coming assistant takes over and between him and Dorsey make the changes to a more new age "wave" NFL team.
I like this plan. A lot.
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Old 04-28-2013, 01:13 AM   #5
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I like when you debate with an Alex Smith supporter the first 6 years don't count, but suddenly when all the pieces are in place the last 1.5 seasons in his career are the only ones that count. Let's not rule out that for years he faced the weakest division in the entire NFL.

It's really hard handing the ball off to Frank Gore isn't it Smith Fan?
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:40 AM   #6
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I like when you debate with an Alex Smith supporter the first 6 years don't count, but suddenly when all the pieces are in place the last 1.5 seasons in his career are the only ones that count. Let's not rule out that for years he faced the weakest division in the entire NFL.

It's really hard handing the ball off to Frank Gore isn't it Smith Fan?
Like it's going to be hard handing it off to Jamaal Charles. Truth be told his stats would be very similar to Eli's except that Eli has managed to remain healthy.

We don't focus on the last 4 years what we see is gradual improvement over the last 4 and a lot of misses games (which is my biggest fear)
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:50 AM   #7
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Like it's going to be hard handing it off to Jamaal Charles. Truth be told his stats would be very similar to Eli's except that Eli has managed to remain healthy.

We don't focus on the last 4 years what we see is gradual improvement over the last 4 and a lot of misses games (which is my biggest fear)
I agree on the missed games, its a concern with any Qb who has had 2 shoulder reconstructions. He has been pretty healthy for awhile, the concussion just happens. With the way the NFL is today there is no avoiding missed time. He never would have missed games except Nolan threw him in there while his shoulder wasnt healed and then had to have another one. But in his second year he became one of the only QBs in NFL history to start and actually play every single snap of every game. He never once came out. I think that is more of the Alex we are getting. The freak shoulder is a thing of the past. I guess we will find out, because Alex has stated publicly he will take a sack to avoid turnovers and keep field position for the D. All those sacks add up
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Old 04-28-2013, 05:05 AM   #8
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I like when you debate with an Alex Smith supporter the first 6 years don't count, but suddenly when all the pieces are in place the last 1.5 seasons in his career are the only ones that count. Let's not rule out that for years he faced the weakest division in the entire NFL.

It's really hard handing the ball off to Frank Gore isn't it Smith Fan?
Steve Youngs first 6 years in Pro Football: 40 TD and 46 ints and 54% completion. Didnt become a full time starter until 29. Total late bloomer and had a rollercoaster beginning to his career. USFL, Tampa Bay, Then played back up for a long time. Different but definitely in line with Smith's crazy career.
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Old 04-28-2013, 04:25 AM   #9
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I know that Alex is ripped on here quite often, I am one of the people who is a supporter of the trade. 2nd round was steep for sure, but i think pretty highly of Alex. If you look closely at his numbers you can see that 27 of his ints and half of his lost fumbles came within his first 2 years. That was a 20 year old kid who just wasnt ready to play. Take the worst recent Chiefs team and times that by 50 and that was the team he played with his first 3 years.
Mike Nolan almost ended his career by throwing him under the bus and saying he wasnt injured when he needed his shoulder reconstructed. all the talent the 49ers have and everyone of them says he is the toughest player they know. I am pretty intrigued by what he will do. I watched all of his games at Utah and followed him, he is extremely intelligent. His mother actually was begging him to play football at Harvard but he wanted to play at a major college. He graduated in 2 years there. He knows the WC system well having been under Mike Mcarthy so there wont be a huge learning curve. I think our team has quite a bit of talent to put around him as well. Anyhow for all the bashing we have to admit he brings something fresh to our team. Smart, extremely tough, rarely turns the ball over. He is accurate and his yrd per attempt are really good which is a huge measure among NFL evaluators. Its an indication of if a QB can really read multiple defenses in a short amount of time. Even if he is dink an dunk he did it for a reason. But yes a second rounder is steep for almost anyone these days with the way the NFL goes. I just think Reid likes him as much as me.
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:03 AM   #10
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:09 AM   #11
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you don't trade 2 seconds for a QB that was benched...















sorry, meant to say: you don't trade 2 seconds for a QB that was benched and then not sign him to a long term contract....he'll be extended next year

and will be our QB until the next 49er backup is available...per Clark Hunt
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Old 04-28-2013, 06:09 AM   #12
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Did you guys think they traded two second round picks for him so he could QB this team for only one year?

This isn't rocket science. Reid/Dorsey believe in him.
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Old 04-28-2013, 09:10 AM   #13
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Did you guys think they traded two second round picks for him so he could QB this team for only one year?

This isn't rocket science. Reid/Dorsey believe in him.
Yes, I think it's possible. Dorsey has an interview where he says pretty directly that he doesn't throw the best deep ball and has a strength mostly on the short and short-intermediate stuff. I don't think Dorsey is clueless about his value, and we all know Reid likes to go vertical.

I think it's absolutely possible that the Chiefs had a directive by Clark Hunt that they need to start winning to get fans excited about the team again. I will give it a year or two to see where this goes. What I do feel pretty sure about is that Reid isn't going to play the game of protecting Alex Smith with his offense. Smith will have to pass a lot so he's not going to skate by with a conservative approach.
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Old 04-28-2013, 07:42 AM   #14
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If Alex Smiff shows a penchant for throwing six yard passes on third and eight, then I will annoint him Elvis Bono and call for his crucifixion.

Until then, I'm willing to give the guy a chance.

No reason to freak out until we see how he does.
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Old 04-28-2013, 08:36 AM   #15
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If Alex Smiff shows a penchant for throwing six yard passes on third and eight, then I will annoint him Elvis Bono and call for his crucifixion.
The 9ers had one of the worst 3rd down conversion percentages in the league for exactly this reason.
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