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Old 01-07-2014, 07:07 PM  
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Potheads Using Food Stamps in Colorado

Colorado Pot Shop to Accept Food Stamps – Taxpayer Funded Marijuana for Welfare Recipients….


s of January 1st, 2014, Colorado became the first state in the nation to allow adults aged 21 or older to purchase and use marijuana for recreational use. The decision has led to excessively large lines at pot shops across the state and store owners reportedly surpassed $1 million in sales statewide on just the first day according to Denver’s 9News.In all, 136 licenses have been approved by the state of Colorado for retail operations for the purposes of selling marijuana. A majority of those licenses were issued to businesses in Denver with just eighteen city stores completing the process in time for opening day. One of those shops, Rite Greens, located on E. Colfax Ave in Denver, has taken the steps needed to accept food stamps (now called EBT cards) for the purposes of purchasing marijuana effectively leading to taxpayer funded marijuana for welfare recipients.

“If you are a tax payer in Colorado, you get to pay for welfare recipients, a majority of whom are Democrats of course, to smoke pot now,” stated Denver resident Paul Horner. “Where will this all end? First it was Obamaphones, then Obamacare, now Obamaweed? Will we be paying for tattoos, manicures, body piercings, gay marriages and porn next?”

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Store owner JC Franco defended his decision to accept EBT cards in an interview with National Report: “Everyone should have access to marijuana. If a user is not able to afford their buds on a limited budget then having taxpayers help cover the shortage is only fair. This isn’t a right only for the wealthy.”

Electronic Benefit Transfer cards — part of the Department of Agriculture’s Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program — are typically of two general categories: food and cash benefits. Franco was able to take advantage of a loophole in the SNAP program as his shop sells a wide array of “edible” marijuana ranging from cookies and brownies to barbeque sauce and homemade butter.

“USDA has a zero tolerance policy on fraud, and we continue to strengthen our anti-fraud tactics to identify and exclude bad actors. More than any other factor, we know that the change in the trafficking rate is being driven by the growth in the number of smaller retailers where trafficking occurs at ten times the rate of larger grocery stores and supermarkets,” Agriculture Undersecretary for Food, Nutrition and Consumer Services Kevin Concannon said in a news release last month. “And while the vast majority of retailers and participants are honest, exploring enhanced retailer requirements reaffirms our commitment to ensuring that everyone plays by the rules.”

The marijuana measure has been popular among younger generations but represents the institution of a major new public policy in America that threatens to turn the nation into a dangerous land of debauchery. If Colorado is able to succeed without causing a national backlash, the tourism, tax and other considerations are likely to compel other states to follow suit. If they do not succeed, whether through marijuana injuries/deaths or an increase in crimes, it could set back the pro-marijuana movement that has gained momentum in recent years.

The state expecting some $200 million dollars in economic boost.


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Old 01-09-2014, 07:22 AM   #46
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I'm surprised conservative media hasn't gone on a campaign to discredit snopes yet.
It's already been reported to lean left. Snopes isn't always right though. Some things they've claimed to debunk are just not so or fuzzy.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:33 AM   #47
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According to NBC it does happen.

http://www.nbc-2.com/story/15478933/...t-transactions

I'm assuming this story is a couple of years old so don't know if anything has been done about it since then.
Florida. Sigh.

1) It'll be near impossible to stop someone from using assistance money (cash) wherever. But the OP says "food stamps" something different.

2) Less than 1% of the money involved in the transactions they tracked was withdrawn at "sin" shops.

It shouldn't happen, but let's not freak out over a <1% abuse factor. Hopefully they have/are working out ways to fix that though.

Finally, good luck reaching the end of the month when blowing assistance on pot. Most would have to spend at least third of their check for a quarter ounce.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:35 AM   #48
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Rick Scott has scammed the state of Florida infinitely worse than all the food stamp scams combined. How's that welfare drug test carried out by his own company working out?
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:40 AM   #49
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Florida. Sigh.

1) It'll be near impossible to stop someone from using assistance money (cash) wherever. But the OP says "food stamps" something different.

2) Less than 1% of the money involved in the transactions they tracked was withdrawn at "sin" shops.

It shouldn't happen, but let's not freak out over a <1% abuse factor. Hopefully they have/are working out ways to fix that though.

Finally, good luck reaching the end of the month when blowing assistance on pot. Most would have to spend at least third of their check for a quarter ounce.
Didn’t think any states are still using paper “food stamps” since they’ve been replaced by EBT cards.
And I’m not “freaked out”. You asked if it happens, it apparently does.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:53 AM   #50
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Didn’t think any states are still using paper “food stamps” since they’ve been replaced by EBT cards.
And I’m not “freaked out”. You asked if it happens, it apparently does.
I didn't mean you personally freaking out. And thanks for sharing an actual example of it happening even if the numbers are underwhelming. That article also says other states have laws preventing abuses like the one you shared.

I'm not well versed in the world of EBT. I do know that when a friend had a girl and her kid stay with him, he ate food she bought with EBT, but she could not buy booze with her card, she had to suck dick for that.
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Old 01-09-2014, 07:59 AM   #51
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Rick Scott has scammed the state of Florida infinitely worse than all the food stamp scams combined. How's that welfare drug test carried out by his own company working out?
How has Scott "scammed" us here?

He did balance the state's budget. I give him credit for that.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:02 AM   #52
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I'm not well versed in the world of EBT.
Me neither.

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I do know that when a friend had a girl and her kid stay with him, he ate food she bought with EBT, but she could not buy booze with her card, she had to suck dick for that.
Sounds like a fair deal to me.
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:04 AM   #53
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How has Scott "scammed" us here?

He did balance the state's budget. I give him credit for that.
When he implements a program that costs Florida more money than it saves while moving the shares he had in drug testing facilities into his wife's name, one word that can be used to describe that situation is "scam."
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Old 01-09-2014, 08:08 AM   #54
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Sounds like a fair deal to me.
That girl is such trash. A great example of someone that doesn't deserve assistance. Feel for her kid though, and putting the kid into the system likely wouldn't help and would cost just as much if not more $$$.
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I've watch HFC take a lot of grief, and deservedly so, for not checking sources before posting this story, but in all honesty, with all the EBT abuse out there, would anyone really be surprised if this story were really true?
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I agree fan4ever, it's not like this couldn't be plausible. When something is closer to the truth, even if inaccurate, it's more easily believed. ( In fact this is how politicians get away with lying so easily.)
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How has Scott "scammed" us here?

He did balance the state's budget. I give him credit for that.
Yea, there's the whole Medicare fraud thing


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On March 19, 1997, investigators from the FBI, the Internal Revenue Service and the Department of Health and Human Services served search warrants at Columbia/HCA facilities in El Paso and on dozens of doctors with suspected ties to the company.[26] 8 Days after the initial raid, scott signed his last SEC report as a hospital executive.[27] Four months later the board of directors pressured Scott to resign as Chairman and CEO.[28] He was paid $9.88 million in a settlement. He also left owning 10 million shares of stock worth over $350 million.[29][30][31] It was said that the directors had been warned in the company's annual public reports to stockholders that incentives Columbia/HCA offered doctors could run afoul of a federal antikickback law that seeks to limit conflicts of interest in Medicare and Medicaid.[27]

In settlements reached in 2000 and 2002, Columbia/HCA pled guilty to 14 felonies and agreed to a $600+ million fine in the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history. Columbia/HCA admitted systematically overcharging the government by claiming marketing costs as reimbursable, by striking illegal deals with home care agencies, and by filing false data about use of hospital space. They also admitted fraudulently billing Medicare and other health programs by inflating the seriousness of diagnoses and to giving doctors partnerships in company hospitals as a kickback for the doctors referring patients to HCA. They filed false cost reports, fraudulently billing Medicare for home health care workers, and paid kickbacks in the sale of home health agencies and to doctors to refer patients. In addition, they gave doctors "loans" never intending to be repaid, free rent, free office furniture, and free drugs from hospital pharmacies.[3][4][5][6][7]

In late 2002, HCA agreed to pay the U.S. government $631 million, plus interest, and pay $17.5 million to state Medicaid agencies, in addition to $250 million paid up to that point to resolve outstanding Medicare expense claims.[32] In all, civil lawsuits cost HCA more than $2 billion to settle, by far the largest fraud settlement in U.S. history.[33]
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I've watch HFC take a lot of grief, and deservedly so, for not checking sources before posting this story, but in all honesty, with all the EBT abuse out there, would anyone really be surprised if this story were really true?
Listen to all the people who believed Obama on anything giving HCF grief for believing this could happen.
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Listen to all the people who believed Obama on anything giving HCF grief for believing this could happen.
I am pretty sure the OP article is not about stating something could happen.
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