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scho63 12-21-2015 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 11969254)
want it to be 50-50? No, they want to gain the majority and have everyone on the wrong side as much as possible. They want to bait people and have them be so stupid that its a 90-10 split when they can.

I can see why your REP is so red. :rolleyes:

You are dead wrong. 1000% wrong.

Bookies and sports books work to make the SPREAD OR VIGORISH. If bookies or sports books tried to "BET" on one side or the other, they would be out of business so fast because the odds are not with them.

You need to learn before you state something as fact that is 100% incorrect. :$2500:

Why Not? 12-21-2015 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 11968385)
And New England (I'm not holding my breath at all on Baltimore).

True

scho63 12-21-2015 07:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 11969254)
want it to be 50-50? No, they want to gain the majority and have everyone on the wrong side as much as possible. They want to bait people and have them be so stupid that its a 90-10 split when they can.

Read this and maybe you will learn something

http://www.gamblingsites.org/sports-...rs-make-money/

O.city 12-21-2015 08:05 PM

Vegas wants 50 50 so they're winning wither way.

Simple math

KChiefs1 12-21-2015 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Marco Polo (Post 11968360)
Who do we need to win each of these games?


Here's a fun thought: if the CHIEFS, Steelers, Jets and Bengals all win next week, Denver will not be in playoffs headed into week 17 and will need a loss from KC, Pitt or New York to make it in.

Saul Good 12-21-2015 08:10 PM

You're both right. In general, sports books want the money to be balanced. Vegas will gamble, though. There are plenty of games in which Vegas has information that the public doesn't and will encourage people to bet on the wrong side by leaving the line alone or even moving it the opposite direction when the majority is on the side they think will lose.

You can sniff those games out by watching for games with wildly disproportionate amounts placed on one side without corresponding line movements. Finding those games and betting contrarian is the basis of my betting strategy.

WhawhaWhat 12-21-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 11969254)
want it to be 50-50? No, they want to gain the majority and have everyone on the wrong side as much as possible. They want to bait people and have them be so stupid that its a 90-10 split when they can.

Why not go 97-3 if they can?

Toby Waller 12-21-2015 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 11969345)
I can see why your REP is so red. :rolleyes:

You are dead wrong. 1000% wrong.

Bookies and sports books work to make the SPREAD OR VIGORISH. If bookies or sports books tried to "BET" on one side or the other, they would be out of business so fast because the odds are not with them.

You need to learn before you state something as fact that is 100% incorrect. :$2500:

where am I wrong? the point of gambling is to profit 100%.
they dont hope to go 50-50. they know they gain the majority no matter what the public does. Its not based on one game at a time.
they give odds on all 16 games and make a couple look decent/realistic to the public so a few people think they are doing well.
But they give ridiculous odds on the other games and will never do worse than 70-30 in their favor. They give the over/under, total, bet on spread,bet on team,move the line 3 times = if they do 50-50 it means they failed miserably.
and the mafia wouldnt even talk to them let alone worry about them or hire them.

they know theyll lose money on one game but everyone will get raked the other 15.

Gambling is a dark art. its not something fun they want dumb ass Johnny Suburb to do well in.

I'm sorry, I just think its funny when people try to talk about gambling like its some simple process or just another business.

Toby Waller 12-21-2015 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 11969413)
Why not go 97-3 if they can?

of course. I was just giving a majority number for the hell of it

O.city 12-21-2015 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Saul Good (Post 11969412)
You're both right. In general, sports books want the money to be balanced. Vegas will gamble, though. There are plenty of games in which Vegas has information that the public doesn't and will encourage people to bet on the wrong side by leaving the line alone or even moving it the opposite direction when the majority is on the side they think will lose.

You can sniff those games out by watching for games with wildly disproportionate amounts placed on one side without corresponding line movements. Finding those games and betting contrarian is the basis of my betting strategy.

I'd imagine that's pretty rare, no?

O.city 12-21-2015 08:16 PM

And smellypitts is blackbob. It's pretty obvious

WhawhaWhat 12-21-2015 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by smellypitts (Post 11969415)
where am I wrong? the point of gambling is to profit 100%.
they dont hope to go 50-50. they know they gain the majority no matter what the public does. Its not based on one game at a time.
they give odds on all 16 games and make a couple look decent/realistic to the public so a few people think they are doing well.
But they give ridiculous odds on the other games and will never do worse than 70-30 in their favor. They give the over/under, total, bet on spread,bet on team,move the line 3 times = if they do 50-50 it means they failed miserably.
and the mafia wouldnt even talk to them let alone worry about them or hire them.

they know theyll lose money on one game but everyone will get raked the other 15.

Gambling is a dark art. its not something fun they want dumb ass Johnny Suburb to do well in.

I'm sorry, I just think its funny when people try to talk about gambling like its some simple process or just another business.

http://i.imgur.com/RmE51lX.gif

okcchief 12-21-2015 10:27 PM

It seems like you would want to win the division and get homefield, but I'd much rather play Houston with Brandon Weeden on the road than Pittsburgh with Ben at home. Am I wrong?

TEX 12-21-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 11969747)
It seems like you would want to win the division and get homefield, but I'd much rather play Houston with Brandon Weeden on the road than Pittsburgh with Ben at home. Am I wrong?

I totally agree. Plus, I'd get to go to the game in Houston and I was at the Chiefs last playoff win.... in Houston. ;)
Come to think of it, that year's playoff run started with a victory over Pittsburgh at Arrowhead. :)

-King- 12-21-2015 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief (Post 11969747)
It seems like you would want to win the division and get homefield, but I'd much rather play Houston with Brandon Weeden on the road than Pittsburgh with Ben at home. Am I wrong?

You're not wrong but if we have a home playoff game it'll be against the Broncos or Jets.
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