Chiefs NFL Team Official: Michael Sam Is ‘Not A Really Good Athlete’ - Page 32

R8RFAN · 05-09-2014, 01:20 PM

ST. LOUIS (CBS St. Louis) — It could be a very long weekend for Michael Sam.
The openly gay football player from the University of Missouri is hoping an NFL team takes a chance and makes history by drafting him, but some experts believe he might end up being an undrafted free agent.
Scouts told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that they don’t see Sam’s game transitioning to the NFL.
“Most of his production was hustle stuff,” an NFC personnel official told the Journal Sentinel. “There’s production, but he’s short, he’s not a really good athlete and he doesn’t play good against the run.”
He continued: “He’s kind of a one-task pass rusher. Just run up the field. And they swallow him up and kind of push him around.”
One NFC personnel director stated that Sam doesn’t have a position in the league.
“He’s not a linebacker, and he’s really not a defensive end,” the personnel director told the Journal Sentinel. “I’d certainly take him to camp. You’ve got to admire how hard he plays.”
An AFC executive said Sam was “short and slow.” Sam stands at 6 feet 2 inches and weighs 262 pounds.
Despite the potential setbacks, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell is hoping to see Sam succeed in the league.
“I want to see Michael Sam get an opportunity to play in the NFL,” Goodell told ESPN Thursday before the first round of the NFL Draft. “We like to say the NFL is the ultimate meritocracy. If you can play football, they want to see you play. The teams want you. The fans want you. And that’s ultimately what it’s all about.”
Goodell continued: “I have great respect for Michael, his courage, his decision to become public, and I’m optimistic that he’s going to get that opportunity, and hopefully he can play at this level.”
Sam, who was the SEC’s Defensive Player of the Year, will be the first openly active gay player in the league.
http://stlouis.cbslocal.com/2014/05/...-good-athlete/

TEX · 05-12-2014, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

So many people not getting it.

He wasn't fined by the NFL. He wasn't suspended by the NFL. He was both fined and suspended by his employer.

Here's a tip: If you want to express your opinion on a touchy subject, do it off the record where your employer doesn't see it.

You think there would have been any fines, suspensions, etc., had it been the other way? No chance. Just as "touchy" to some you know...

jd1020 · 05-12-2014, 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You think there would have been any fines, suspensions, etc., had it been the other way? No chance. Just as "touchy" to some you know...

What other way?

WhiteWhale · 05-12-2014, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

What other way?

Maybe he's talking about if they were both women.

Anti-gay activists don't seem to have much of a problem with that.

Outside of that I have idea.

htismaqe · 05-12-2014, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

So many people not getting it.

He wasn't fined by the NFL. He wasn't suspended by the NFL. He was both fined and suspended by his employer.

Here's a tip: If you want to express your opinion on a touchy subject, do it off the record where your employer doesn't see it.

Yep.

The article quoted in the OP here missed that point too.

Prison Bitch · 05-12-2014, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

You think there would have been any fines, suspensions, etc., had it been the other way? No chance. Just as "touchy" to some you know...

Exactly. It's a one-way street by the elites on an issue that is divided among the public. And if you drill down this issue - "a man licking cake off another mans face?" - you can bet your ass the NFL target market (straight white males 25-50) were grossed out by it.

The nfl isn't concerned about their image. They're concerned with creating uniformity to an elitist value system

suzzer99 · 05-12-2014, 12:16 PM

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/mich...ziel-nfl-draft

Michael Sam jersey is outselling Tebow, RGIII and Luck.

**Baby Lee** · 05-12-2014, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO DAMMIT! It doesn't work THAT way. WTF is WRONG with you for expressing your opinion that Americans should allow expression of all points of view and abide by the constitution while doing so?????

You missed the fine print where we're similarly entitled to track down your employer, mortgage holder, and city councilman and forward your remarks to them.

htismaqe · 05-12-2014, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee

You missed the fine print where we're similarly entitled to track down your employer, mortgage holder, and city councilman and forward your remarks to them.

Witchhunts.

An American tradition since 1692.

B_Ambuehl · 05-12-2014, 03:55 PM

Sam may not have great measurables but he plays a lot more explosive than what the recent talk around him would indicate. He has rare explosiveness off the ball. No one gets 10 sacks in the SEC being a slapick and he was a good enough pass rusher other coaching staffs respected him enough to double him at times. In fact probably the player he resembles most is Tamba Hali, who also had a terrible combine, wasn't a great athlete, etc.

BWillie · 05-12-2014, 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker

I imagine it would be treated like any other sexual assault.

What are you guys, cavemen? It's 2014. There are gay people. Sometimes they kiss. Get over it.

No shit. I'm amazed all these ppl are freaking out because they kissed. Isn't that what you do when you are showing affection to a loved one? Don't other athletes give each other a peck when they get drafted and their significant other is there. He's an openly gay athlete, that is the whole point, he's SUPPOSED to show his sexuality out in the open.

And those that theres nothing wrong with it, but don't like it shown on TV because of their kids..are you freaking kidding me? Seems like a great teaching point to tell your kids about equality and embrace the situation. Show them how stupid bigotry is.

munkey · 05-12-2014, 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

No shit. I'm amazed all these ppl are freaking out because they kissed. Isn't that what you do when you are showing affection to a loved one? Don't other athletes give each other a peck when they get drafted and their significant other is there. He's an openly gay athlete, that is the whole point, he's SUPPOSED to show his sexuality out in the open.

And those that theres nothing wrong with it, but don't like it shown on TV because of their kids..are you freaking kidding me? Seems like a great teaching point to tell your kids about equality and embrace the situation. Show them how stupid bigotry is.

I don't care that he's gay...it's the fact he has a WHITE boyfriend!!! What is this world coming to!!!!

beach tribe · 05-12-2014, 04:14 PM

Frisco bound.

**Easy 6** · 05-12-2014, 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

The nfl isn't concerned about their image. They're concerned with creating uniformity to an elitist value system

Oh brother, give it a rest, Vladimir.

They're trying to give the guy a fair shot, that's it.

CoMoChief · 05-12-2014, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by suzzer99

http://ftw.usatoday.com/2014/05/mich...ziel-nfl-draft

Michael Sam jersey is outselling Tebow, RGIII and Luck.

I'd hope it'd be selling more than Tebow considering he doesn't even play in the league anymore.

**Baby Lee** · 05-12-2014, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

No shit. I'm amazed all these ppl are freaking out because they kissed. Isn't that what you do when you are showing affection to a loved one? Don't other athletes give each other a peck when they get drafted and their significant other is there. He's an openly gay athlete, that is the whole point, he's SUPPOSED to show his sexuality out in the open.

And those that theres nothing wrong with it, but don't like it shown on TV because of their kids..are you freaking kidding me? Seems like a great teaching point to tell your kids about equality and embrace the situation. Show them how stupid bigotry is.

Supposed to?

If one comes out, there's some kind of gay PDA societal OBLIGATION?

I just don't understand.

When was the last time you saw Jane Lynch fulfilling her obligations as an openly gay woman? Does she just get to pay extra dues or something?

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