Huard...willing and able

[HIChief]

I don't know about you all, but as the season goes on, it seems to me Damon Huard is taking greater and greater risks throwing the ball to our big money playmakers, and it's paying off! By comparison, Trent Green seemed to wait for TG, Dante Hall, and Kennison to get real open before throwing them the ball, and if they weren't he would dump the ball off to the running back. But Damon's been sticking it in there in tight coverage with pinpoint accuracy. It's like he's expecting the receivers to go get the ball, and they've been responding with spectacular results. With the resurgence of our offense it's particularly hard to imagine handing the reigns back over to Trent Green. It's going to be a test of character to see whether Green, competitor that he is, has the heart and grace to let the "Hot Hand" on the team at the moment to play himself out, even if it means Huard takes us right through the playoffs. Chiefs Fans in KC might have a better take on this, as we don't get to see every game the Chiefs play out here in Hawaii, and have to rely alot on streaming audio.

[RINGLEADER]

Having lived through the Gannon-Grbac fiasco I'm all for letting Huard play...not saying he's appreciably better than Trent, just that he has the mojo working for him right now and - as you point out - the rest of the team seems to be clicking with him.

[Donger]

A serious question here: has Huard fumbled every time he's been sacked?

[SLAG]

A serious question here: has Huard fumbled every time he's been sacked?


No!

i see that as him shakeing the rust off.


I had very serious doubts about huard and Im eating my crow now

[Crashride]

A serious question here: has Huard fumbled every time he's been sacked?

If trent was hit from behind without seeing the guy coming he would most likely fumble too...dont forget who our left tackle is

[SLAG]

“I don’t know why you get hurt in practice. There was no way I was going to miss this game. The training staff did an unbelievable job getting me ready to go. Once you get out there and you hear the fans and the adrenaline starts rushing, how can you not play in this game?”

[Donger]

If trent was hit from behind without seeing the guy coming he would most likely fumble too...dont forget who our left tackle is

That's not what I asked.

Has Huard fumbled every time he's been sacked? Yes or no?

[SLAG]

heh.

i'll just post all his little quips in this thread here



QB Damon Huard

On starting today: “I don’t know why you get hurt in practice. There was no way I was going to miss this game. The training staff did an unbelievable job getting me ready to go. Once you get out there and you hear the fans and the adrenaline starts rushing, how can you not play in this game?”

What was in your mind during pre-game warm ups? ”[The injured groin] was sore. You’ve just got to get in your mind, ‘So what?’ get in there and play even if it’s sore. The training staff, coaches, everybody was a part of a collective effort and got me ready to play. I’m just glad I did. This was so much fun beating my hometown team. … You can’t play slow in this league. I knew that. I had to play the game and if I held up, I held up. That’s a tribute to these people here in our training room and everyone in this organization who got me ready to roll.”

On the significance of playing against his hometown team: “Absolutely. It was a team I grew up watching and a team my brother played for four years. It’s my home; I live there. It was fun to play against some guys that I know. It was a great win but more importantly, a great win for the Chiefs. It gets us over .500 and we’ve got some momentum going and, so, it’s one to build on.“

On this being one of his better games, even with the groin injury: “Probably, although once you get into the heat of the battle you don’t feel it much. But our training room and our trainers gave up their whole weekend to spend time to get me ready to play and I can’t thank them enough. Once the adrenaline [starts pumping] and the fans [get into the game] you just forget about it.“

On WR Eddie Kennison and TE Tony Gonzalez: ”[The catch he made near the end of the game] was just unbelievable. They are great playmakers. You’ve just got to put the ball in their direction and they make plays for you.“

On RB Larry Johnson: “Larry had a huge day. We’ve got a lot of playmakers on this offense and it’s my job is to get them the ball.“

On challenges faced in the game: “We made some silly mistakes, including myself on the fumble in the first half. You’ve got to eliminate that stuff and when you have a chance to jump on people you’ve got to do it. We didn’t do that today. But give credit to the Seahawks. They put up a great fight and Seneca Wallace wasn’t intimidated in his first start.“

On how hard it will be to give up the reins when Trent comes back: “The fact that you’re talking about it is a good thing because it means we’re winning games. Trent is the starting quarterback and this year on this team my job is to back him up and fill in if he’s out. That’s what I’m doing.“

On being surprised at how well he’s playing: “No, I have a great team and great players around me. You just believe in yourself and keep fighting. When you get an opportunity you just go out and make the most of it. I’ve always been confident and always believed in myself. But the most important thing is that your teammates believe in you. When you win close games and you get to practice as much as we have together, everyone believes in you and we all have the confidence that we need to win.“

On Jared Allen’s fumble: “Give credit to Deion Branch. I played with that guy in New England. That’s just an unbelievable football play. He made that one-handed catch and is one of the premier receivers in this league.”

[SLAG]

That's not what I asked.

Has Huard fumbled every time he's been sacked? Yes or no?

I answered NO!

I think not

[Donger]

I answered NO!

he did get sacked this last Sunday but did not fumble

Sorry. I thought you were being sarcastic.

So, how often does he fumble when he's sacked?

[SLAG]

Sorry. I thought you were being sarcastic.

So, how often does he fumble when he's sacked?

From NFL.COM
Fumbles
Year Team G Fum Lost Fum Forced Own Rec Opp Rec Yds Tot Rec TD
1997 Miami Dolphins 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1998 Miami Dolphins 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1999 Miami Dolphins 16 3 2 0 1 0 0 1 0
2000 Miami Dolphins 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2001 New England 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2002 New England 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2003 New England 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2004 Kansas City 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2005 Kansas City 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 Kansas City 7 8 5 0 1 0 0 1 0
TOTAL 45 11 2 0 2 0 0 2 0

[Donger]

From NFL.COM
Fumbles
Year Team G Fum Lost Fum Forced Own Rec Opp Rec Yds Tot Rec TD
1997 Miami Dolphins 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1998 Miami Dolphins 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1999 Miami Dolphins 16 3 2 0 1 0 0 1 0
2000 Miami Dolphins 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2001 New England 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2002 New England 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2003 New England 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2004 Kansas City 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2005 Kansas City 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2006 Kansas City 7 8 5 0 1 0 0 1 0
TOTAL 45 11 2 0 2 0 0 2 0

Wait. He's played in 7 games in 2006? And he's fumbled 8 times? And lost 5 of them?

Is that correct?

[007]

Wait. He's played in 7 games in 2006? And he's fumbled 8 times? And lost 5 of them?

Is that correct?
I don't think that is right. Sure doesn't sound right.

[Donger]

I don't think that is right. Sure doesn't sound right.

http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1748

I could be mistaken.

[SLAG]

I don't think that is right. Sure doesn't sound right.


I think it is right..

Played 7 Games ( he is 4-2 as Starter)

[SLAG]

Huard has 2 Receptions for -6 Yards..

Passes he threw to himself ROFL

[Donger]

I think it is right..

Played 7 Games ( he is 4-2 as Starter)

So, if right, he fumbles at least once a game. Is that good?

[SLAG]

So, if right, he fumbles at least once a game. Is that good?


here is trents Stats

Fumbles
Year Team G Fum Lost Fum Forced Own Rec Opp Rec Yds Tot Rec TD
1993 San Diego Chargers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1994 San Diego Chargers 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1995 Washington Redskins 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1996 Washington Redskins 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1997 Washington Redskins 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1998 Washington Redskins 15 14 7 0 4 0 0 4 0
1999 St. Louis Rams 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 St. Louis Rams 8 3 2 0 0 0 0 0 0
2001 Kansas City Chiefs 16 11 4 0 5 0 0 5 0
2002 Kansas City Chiefs 16 1 0 0 1 0 0 1 0
2003 Kansas City Chiefs 16 5 1 0 0 0 0 0 0
2004 Kansas City Chiefs 16 11 4 0 3 0 0 3 0
2005 Kansas City Chiefs 16 8 4 0 1 0 0 1 0
2006 Kansas City Chiefs 1 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
TOTAL 105 54 22 0 14 0 0 14 0

[007]

I think it is right..

Played 7 Games ( he is 4-2 as Starter)
I sure don't remember 8 forced fumbles though.

[007]

I stand corrected. Check a couple different sites and they all show 8 fumbles with 5 lost.

Not a good trend there.

[Donger]

So, Huard has fumbled in eight games as much as Green did in 2005 through 16 games?

[Donger]

I'm no football expert, but it seems that Huard fumbles at least 50% of the time he's sacked.

[BigRock]

I wouldn't care much about the fumbles if he wasn't doing it in our own redzone. The last two games, he's basically given the other team a free TD.

That's probably the only negative about his performance so far. But eventually it's going to cost us. It nearly did against the Chargers.

[splatbass]

Chiefs Fans in KC might have a better take on this, as we don't get to see every game the Chiefs play out here in Hawaii, and have to rely alot on streaming audio.

Where in Hawaii do you live? If you are on Oahu, The Shack in Mililani shows all the games. The only one I've missed this season was Pittsburg because the power was off after the earthquake. I think The Shack in Kailua also shows them all. And Panama Hatties in Aiea.

[OldTownChief]

I'm no football expert, but it seems that Huard fumbles at least 50% of the time he's sacked.

Wonder how many batted balls he has.

[jidar]

Huard is doing great, I think we're all pleased with where we are right now considering the circumstances, but he's no Trent Green.

[Boise_Chief]

Thought:

Is Tony G playing lights out or is his increase in production strictly Damon forcing in tough balls.

Does Damon throw a ball recievers like to catch better, or are they concentrating more because we are missing Trent.

Damon doesn't throw a better ball than Trent, but he does seem to hit recievers in stride a higher percentage of the time (Slants, in front not behind reciever).

[FAX]

Damon Huard is the luckiest man alive.

A lifelong backup, a freak injury means he's now quarterbacking alongside some of the greatest talent in the game, his team has won even though he's fumbled the ball like a blind monkey, and a significant number of his passes that should have been picks were inexplicably dropped by the enemy. Sometimes you get on a roll.

Roll on, Damon.

FAX

[NewChief]

Thought:

Is Tony G playing lights out or is his increase in production strictly Damon forcing in tough balls.

Does Damon throw a ball recievers like to catch better, or are they concentrating more because we are missing Trent.

Damon doesn't throw a better ball than Trent, but he does seem to hit recievers in stride a higher percentage of the time (Slants, in front not behind reciever).

I hate to comment here, because I'm biased. That being said: I think that Damon has a tendency to force the ball to Tony G. and Eddie in a way that Trent doesn't. So far it's worked out for him and the receivers, because they're putting up great numbers with few INTs. It's cool to see him lob the ball to Gonzo and repeatedly watch Gonzo rip the ball away from the defenders to make the catch, but it may come back and bite Damon in the ass eventually. If you make enough risky throws, you're going to start hucking INTs at some point.

I will say that the receivers are making catches with Damon that they never, ever made for Trent. I would have loved to see Tony and Eddie play at this level the last couple of years with Trent. Whether this is them "stepping up" because they feel that they have to compensate or a result of Damon putting the ball in the right spot, I don't have a clue. I still feel, at this point, the sampling is too small with Huard and the statistics are weighted unrealistically by a variety of factors, the most important of which is that teams still don't respect Huard enough to gameplan against him. This has let him get away with some things he probably wouldn't be able to get away with if he were the starting QB over the course of an entire season.

[Boise_Chief]

Oh yeah Tony G's in a contract year. I'd hate to think that he wasn't trying as hard the last few years. But every time he makes a big catch I think it.

[FAX]

Although I am not stat man. I don't think TG was targeted by Trent as much as Huard has been. Also, the routes seem deeper to me. Also and plus, since it's a contract year, he needs to show something to potential suitors. Also and plus and too, I think he's trying to create a legacy by redefining the position he's already redefined once or twice already.

FAX

[Boise_Chief]

I think it could be a matter of chemistry, it seems that qb's tend to have favorite targets. I just hope that Trent can see the opportunities that damon is using and keeps the momentum rolling. That said Trent should come back this week and use the next two weeks to get back in the game.

[Phobia]

I hate to comment here, because I'm biased. That being said: I think that Damon has a tendency to force the ball to Tony G. and Eddie in a way that Trent doesn't. So far it's worked out for him and the receivers, because they're putting up great numbers with few INTs. It's cool to see him lob the ball to Gonzo and repeatedly watch Gonzo rip the ball away from the defenders to make the catch, but it may come back and bite Damon in the ass eventually. If you make enough risky throws, you're going to start hucking INTs at some point.

I will say that the receivers are making catches with Damon that they never, ever made for Trent. I would have loved to see Tony and Eddie play at this level the last couple of years with Trent. Whether this is them "stepping up" because they feel that they have to compensate or a result of Damon putting the ball in the right spot, I don't have a clue. I still feel, at this point, the sampling is too small with Huard and the statistics are weighted unrealistically by a variety of factors, the most important of which is that teams still don't respect Huard enough to gameplan against him. This has let him get away with some things he probably wouldn't be able to get away with if he were the starting QB over the course of an entire season.

I actually agree with most of this so your bias isn't unrealistic.