The Colts are loading 8 men in the box to stop Chris Johnson/Lendale

[RealSNR]

What do the Titans do? They throw to try to spread out the coverage.

Is offensive playcalling really this simple or are Herm/Gailey just really, really stupid? :spock:

[Reerun_KC]

Funny Mike Hiemerdinger (Spelling ) doesnt seem like the total dipshit of an OC like he was in NYJ? I wonder if Jeff Fisher is forcing him to run only his playbook?


Funny they just said when you have 8-9 in the box you have to take shots down field to force the safties back into coverage... Herm disagree's and is going to watch tape....

[Sure-Oz]

lmfao bironaus drills the kick as a cannon goes off right as he hits it.....

Fischer looked POED about the cannon malfunction, it's supposed to go off AFTER he drills it

[milkman]

I'm going with the 2nd choice, with a qualifier.

I don't think Chan is this stupid.

I just think that he was just stupid enough to sign on with single greatest moron to don a headset on the sidelines in the NFL.

Big mistake.

[Mr. Laz]

titan guy just knocked himself out on the kickoff coverage

[Frazod]

Manningception!

[Frazod]

Colts just got royally screwed on a non-call - ball was clearly fumbled, but there was no review.

[Sure-Oz]

Kerry Collins is dogshit

[Reerun_KC]

Wouldnt it be sweet to have Jeff Fisher on our sideline?

[Demonpenz]

Could you imagine if pac man didn't shot people and vince young was smart enough to be worth anything? They would be frickin bad ass. I hope they keep haynsworth next year then sign Ray Lewis and actually tear peoples limbs off during the games mortal kombat style

[Hammock Parties]

I need TWO points from Johnson to win my FFG.

[Hammock Parties]

Sweet, looks like I got it already.

[Dylan]

Colts have a nice defense --- Let's go Peyton

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Could you imagine if pac man didn't shot people and vince young was smart enough to be worth anything? They would be frickin bad ass. I hope they keep haynsworth next year then sign Ray Lewis and actually tear peoples limbs off during the games mortal kombat style

I don't see Bob Dole pimping Young as much anymore for some reason.

[Dylan]

colts in FG range?

[Frazod]

Looks like Fisher has been taking clock management tips from Herm. :spock:

[eazyb81]

All in all, I think the Titans have the Colts right where they want them. Tennessee's defense will continue to be stout, and the running game will start to wear down Indy in the 2nd half.

This team is fun to watch.

[Frazod]

All in all, I think the Titans have the Colts right where they want them. Tennessee's defense will continue to be stout, and the running game will start to wear down Indy in the 2nd half.

This team is fun to watch.

I certainly hope so. I need Tennessee to win to have a shot at the weekly pool.

[Dylan]

Colts offense blew a few good plays. I like their defense, they're keeping in the game. Colts will have the ball. Let's see how they do

I'm not crazy about the Titans. Maybe it's just Kerry Collins, I don't know

[Dylan]

With all that media hype -- the Titans only have Hanesworth? ok




TDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD COLTS!!!!!!!!

that shutup everybody in the stands

[Frazod]

Now would be a good time for those douchebags to start actually playing.....

[the Talking Can]

that was awesome

jaws ran through the QB decision tree and called the defense, then audible, and the route....TD colts


it was like he was back in the huddle


they really need to ax cancer head and go with a 2 man booth

[Dylan]

"Now we're going to find out about the TN Titans" ESPN

Now? TN defense had no idea what to do on Peyton's last TD

[Dylan]

How funny -- The announcers are trying to redeem themselves after they practically said the Colts stink

[milkman]

That first down was huge.

They've got to get into the EZ now.

[Bob Dole]

Brandon Jones!

[Dylan]

Oh hell got the 2

[dirk digler]

That 2 pointer was executed perfectly and that is what the Chiefs should have done yesterday instead of running up the butt 3 times in a row

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Kornheiser giving jaws shit about the 2pter was funny.

[Dylan]

that was awesome

jaws ran through the QB decision tree and called the defense, then audible, and the route....TD colts


it was like he was back in the huddle


they really need to ax cancer head and go with a 2 man booth

LMAO

[Rain Man]

Which announcer was saying he wouldn't go for a two-point conversion when the score is 12 to 14? He said, "You never go for two points unless you have to."

You're down by two in the third quarter, and you shouldn't go for two? Even after they got it, he still said, "I disagree with the call."

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Which announcer was saying he wouldn't go for a two-point conversion when the score is 12 to 14? He said, "You never go for two points unless you have to."

You're down by two in the third quarter, and you shouldn't go for two? Even after they got it, he still said, "I disagree with the call."

Jaws. I disagree with him. If you have a chance to tie the game, you take a chance to tie the game. even if you miss, it's still a one score game.

[Mr. Laz]

that was awesome

jaws ran through the QB decision tree and called the defense, then audible, and the route....TD colts


it was like he was back in the huddle


they really need to ax cancer head and go with a 2 man booth
i think Jaws would make a great offensive coordinator for us.

but he's making too much cash doing t.v. to ever want to put up with coaching crap imo

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Indy should go for it here. If you can't make a half yard you don't deserve to win.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

They don't deserve to win.

[Reerun_KC]

Well that play would of made Herm very proud... a run for a loss or no gain...

[dirk digler]

lucky break there

[Rain Man]

Jaws. I disagree with him. If you have a chance to tie the game, you take a chance to tie the game. even if you miss, it's still a one score game.

Seriously, that was Jaws? I figured it must've been that Kornheiser guy or someone else who doesn't know about football. Not going for two in that situation would've been so stupid that even Herm wouldn't do it.

Well, probably.

Okay, I'm not sure if Herm would do it or not, but it would still be incredibly stupid.

[Mecca]

Some people think you should never go for 2 unless it's the 4th quarter, Jaws basically said he thought it was to early.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Seriously, that was Jaws? I figured it must've been that Kornheiser guy or someone else who doesn't know about football. Not going for two in that situation would've been so stupid that even Herm wouldn't do it.

Well, probably.

Okay, I'm not sure if Herm would do it or not, but it would still be incredibly stupid.

It would be, cause if Indy scores, you have to go for two to tie it. If they kick a FG, you need a TD to win. The reward far outweighs the risk there. But coaches rarely use common sense, and most guys who play Madden know more about in-game strategy than coaches...it's really pathetic.

[Dylan]

That 2 pointer was executed perfectly and that is what the Chiefs should have done yesterday instead of running up the butt 3 times in a row

He played great... it crossed my mind that Tyler could be playing his college offensive scheme -- ESPN brought it up last night.

I don't know why the Jets got rid of Kevin Mawae. He's a good center

[Rain Man]

Some people think you should never go for 2 unless it's the 4th quarter, Jaws basically said he thought it was to early.

Really? Down by 2, and you go for 1? I just can't see any justification for that, ever.

[Mecca]

It would be, cause if Indy scores, you have to go for two to tie it. If they kick a FG, you need a TD to win. The reward far outweighs the risk there. But coaches rarely use common sense, and most guys who play Madden know more about in-game strategy than coaches...it's really pathetic.

I think head coaches would make better decisions if they sat in the box upstairs....I think on the sideline they completely lose oversight of the game.

[eazyb81]

lucky break there

i have to admit, i can't read anything you type because i'm staring at the huge pair of melons in your avatar.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

He played great... it crossed my mind that Tyler could be playing his college offensive scheme -- ESPN brought it up last night.

I don't know why the Jets got rid of Kevin Mawae. He's a good center

Nick Mangold. Time will tell on that one. you could have had Mangold play @ guard like the Jets are doing w/ Pollack.

[Mecca]

Really? Down by 2, and you go for 1? I just can't see any justification for that, ever.

Some people make decisions out of fear, if you don't get it and give up a TD you just went down by 9, where as if you kick the EP you'd be down by 8...1 score.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I think head coaches would make better decisions if they sat in the box upstairs....I think on the sideline they completely lose oversight of the game.

I think they'd make better decisions if they wouldn't have stupid strategy drilled into their head from the days of jr. high football.

[eazyb81]

Some people make decisions out of fear, if you don't get it and give up a TD you just went down by 9, where as if you kick the EP you'd be down by 8...1 score.

I'd be coaching out of fear too if I had a cushy 8 figure job that I could lose by making unconservative game decisions.

[Mecca]

People playing video games have better clock management skills than actual coaches, isn't that sad?

[Basileus777]

He played great... it crossed my mind that Tyler could be playing his college offensive scheme -- ESPN brought it up last night.

I don't know why the Jets got rid of Kevin Mawae. He's a good center

The Jets wanted to get young and Mawae had some trouble with Mangini.

[Reerun_KC]

The Jets wanted to get young and Mawae had some trouble with Mangini.

Mangini wasnt running guys up Mawae's ass every game.. Mawae didnt feel the love anymore, got jealous that Mangini didnt like the Buttsechs offense.

So Mawae went elsewhere...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd be coaching out of fear too if I had a cushy 8 figure job that I could lose by making unconservative game decisions.

You lose your job a hell of a lot quicker by losing than you do by winning.

Ask chickenshit Schottenheimer how far the turtle up gameplan ever got his bitch ass in the playoffs.

[Basileus777]

You lose your job a hell of a lot quicker by losing than you do by winning.

Ask chickenshit Schottenheimer how far the turtle up gameplan ever got his bitch ass in the playoffs.

Marty coached for over 15 years. If the goal is to keep your job, he succeeded for the most part.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I still love what the Colts are doing here. They are attacking. Yeah, they gave up 15 yards of field position. BFD.

[Mecca]

I'm still pretty unimpressed by the Titans...this is the year of no top notch teams.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Marty coached for over 15 years. If the goal is to keep you're job, he succeeded for the most part.

And here I thought the goal of coaching was to win.

[Rain Man]

I'd be coaching out of fear too if I had a cushy 8 figure job that I could lose by making unconservative game decisions.


Well, yeah, that's probably true. But if Herm went for 1 in that situation, I would be verbally excoriating him with dental tools.

I bet there are video game players who are superior to some of these coaches. I mean no offense, but a lot of times these guys aren't geniuses or anything, and they don't recognize patterns that could help them.

I'm actually still not sure that the Saints' intentional safety yesterday was a bright move, either. They basically gave up the ball and gave the Chargers a chance to win.

[dirk digler]

I like that the Colts go for it on 4th down. Herm punts in that situation

[Basileus777]

And here I thought the goal of coaching was to win.

I was referring to eazyb81's post. In general I agree with you.

[dirk digler]

I'm still pretty unimpressed by the Titans...this is the year of no top notch teams.

You can thank Bernard Pollard for that but the Giants are pretty darn good though

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Lendale White would be such a good back if he'd lose 20 pounds.

Fat bastard :shake:

[Basileus777]

Its amazing what happens when you throw on first down.

[dirk digler]

Its amazing what happens when you throw on first down.

Yep. It is the best down to throw on

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Its amazing what happens when you throw on first down.

“You do what's best for your team, ... throw passes and get (the quarterback) killed. Are you kidding me? For what? That's ridiculous.”--Herm Edwards

[Rain Man]

The fans in Tennessee have some pretty lame t-shirts. That clapping dude had a picture of the stadium that said, "This is OUR house." Who would buy a shirt like that?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The fans in Tennessee have some pretty lame t-shirts. That clapping dude had a picture of the stadium that said, "This is OUR house." Who would buy a shirt like that?

A Tennesseean.

[Rain Man]

It's funny that #45 was trying to act like that was a touchdown. That wasn't even close to being even close.

[Dylan]

I forgot about Mangold. I don't know much about him.

The Giants picked up a excellent Tackle from the Jets a fews years ago. He's name is Kareem McKenzie (sp). He's huge. I don't remember why they gave up on him. They were crazy.

OMG... I hope Collins is ok. When Collins was with the Giants under Fassel, he threw a million INT. Nice to see him doing well. I'm glad he found a good QB couch

[Frazod]

Titans take the lead. This is a great game.

[Mecca]

I'm sorry 7-0 or not, the Titans don't impress me or remotely look like a bowl team.

[Rain Man]

A Tennesseean.

Oh. Good point.



Nice reachover by Lenwhale White.

[Frazod]

BTW, does ANYBODY believe that all these multi-millionaire sports announcers eat nothing but microwave diet dinners?

God, who could be stupid enough to fall for that bullshit? :shake:

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm sorry 7-0 or not, the Titans don't impress me or remotely look like a bowl team.

The NFL is terrible this year. But I can pretty much guarantee you that Tennessee will lose their first playoff game.

[Basileus777]

I'm sorry 7-0 or not, the Titans don't impress me or remotely look like a bowl team.

Look at their competition. The AFC is a joke. Tennessee and Pittsburgh are the only playoff caliber teams with a quality defense. They could very well end up in the Superbowl. Especially since they've basically clinched the division tonight and will likely end up with the first seed.

[Rain Man]

I'm sorry 7-0 or not, the Titans don't impress me or remotely look like a bowl team.


Yeah, this is a bad year to have a weak team. Some average team that gets on a late-season run could win it all this year. I don't see a powerhouse anywhere.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Dungy doesn't have an aggressive mentality...ROFL...It's Manning. He calls the shots.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Rhodes fucking sucks.

[dirk digler]

Look at their competition. The AFC is a joke. They could very well end up in the Superbowl. Especially since they've basically clinched the division tonight and will likely end up with the first seed.

I agree. This is the weakest the AFC has been in sometime.

I think the Giants win the SB again.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Ballgame.

[Mecca]

Boy Dallas Clark just lets the ball bounce off him.

[dirk digler]

Game over

[Frazod]

Eat a dick, Manning. You're DONE.

[Mecca]

Look at their competition. The AFC is a joke. Tennessee and Pittsburgh are the only playoff caliber teams with a quality defense. They could very well end up in the Superbowl. Especially since they've basically clinched the division tonight and will likely end up with the first seed.

Which is why I'm still going to say Dallas or San Diego, one of them gets on a roll with their talent.

[Rain Man]

Dallas Clark is kind of a wimp. Tony Gonzalez would still be running with that pass, and Dallas Clark didn't even get up to try to make a tackle.

[cdcox]

Titans have looked really good tonight.

[dirk digler]

Definitely over now LMAO

[Mecca]

Eat a dick, Manning. You're DONE.

It's Mannings fault his Tight end cant catch a ball that hits him...

[Frazod]

And Johnson with the final dagger through their hearts. LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

WOW spanked...

[Mr. Flopnuts]

The Colts are done. Manning is going to move down the elite ladder and Dungy will be gone at the end of the year.

[Frazod]

It's Mannings fault his Tight end cant catch a ball that hits him...

No, but he can still eat a dick.

[Reerun_KC]

Damn I wish we had Fisher....

['Hamas' Jenkins]

San Diego, Denver, Jacksonville all suck this year.

Pittsburgh and New England are thoroughly mediocre.

Indy isn't that good any more. Hell, the fucking Texans could get hot, make it as a wildcard and end up in the Super Bowl.

[Dylan]

OMG... TD TN

Peyton's knees bothering him?

[cdcox]

Taste the bile Peyton.

[Basileus777]

Which is why I'm still going to say Dallas or San Diego, one of them gets on a roll with their talent.

San Diego doesn't have the defense to win anything this year. And without Merriman they don't have the players to fix their pass rush. Their talent on defense isn't very good without Merriman.

[Hammock Parties]

I can't believe I dumped Lendale White last week. That guy is a TD machine.

[Mecca]

Manning is still the same player, the problem is.....his RB's are blowing his line is worse and Marvin Harrison is basically a scrub now.

[dirk digler]

I don't think that was a TD but it wouldn't have mattered.

It looked like his knee was down before he stretched out

[Mecca]

Damn I wish we had Fisher....

You love that conservative style eh...

[dirk digler]

Manning is still the same player, the problem is.....his RB's are blowing his line is worse and Marvin Harrison is basically a scrub now.

Yep.

[Dylan]

I'm glad Collins gave up drinking...

[cdcox]

Manning is still the same player, the problem is.....his RB's are blowing his line is worse and Marvin Harrison is basically a scrub now.

This.

[Coach]

I can't believe I dumped Lendale White last week. That guy is a TD machine.

Dude. Where have you been? LenDale White has been Tennessee short yardage RB and goal-line RB for quite some time.

[Hammock Parties]

Manning is still the same player, the problem is.....his RB's are blowing his line is worse and Marvin Harrison is basically a scrub now.

So Manning gets a pass but you continue to rip Larry...nice.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Which is why I'm still going to say Dallas or San Diego, one of them gets on a roll with their talent.

Someone made a pretty good point about bad coaches--it's never the first year that they tear a team apart, because they still have good habits ingrained from the previous coach. It's always the second year that they act as an anchor around the neck of the franchise. I think both of those teams are done.

Plus with Jamaal Williams being old and Shawn Roidman out in SD=Shit defense.

Dallas has a shit D as well, and Garrett is horribly overrated as a playcaller. They also have no chemistry. It's like 2002 USA basketball.

[Coach]

You love that conservative style eh...

Not that conservative as Herm Edwards.

[Hammock Parties]

Dude. Where have you been? LenDale White has been Tennessee short yardage RB and goal-line RB for quite some time.

I had to cut someone...had to pick up a QB.

I dumped him because I have Chris Johnson, too....I'm dumb. Still in first place, though. :)

[Basileus777]

You love that conservative style eh...

Don;t mistake all "conservative style" coaches with Herm or Marty. Its not a coincidence that the team that wins the Superbowl usually has a ball control style offense with a good defense. Even the Colts won their championship that way.

[Frazod]

Well, this might save me in the pool. I can only hope that everybody else took it in the ass on that Jacksonville/Cleveland game just like I did. :grr:

[Coach]

I had to cut someone...had to pick up a QB.

I dumped him because I have Chris Johnson, too....I'm dumb. Still in first place, though. :)

Well, be sure to get him back if he's still available. White is a good RB #2 IMHO.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

No, but he can still eat a dick.

LMAO LAWL

['Hamas' Jenkins]

So Manning gets a pass but you continue to rip Larry...nice.

Manning is still one of the two best quarterbacks in the game. Marvin Harrison is fucking shot, Saturday is a shell of himself.

Addai wasn't playing tonight. Tarik Glenn isn't walking through that door and Anthony Gonzalez has been a big disappointment in the slot.

[dirk digler]

So Manning gets a pass but you continue to rip Larry...nice.

What's wrong with Manning. He still plays great but the players around him aren't very good this year

[Mecca]

If are you really going to argue with me about Larry Johnson a RB who had roughly 3 good seasons and to many touches to Peyton Manning who is a lock of HOFer I will literally go off on you.

[Dylan]

The question is -- which team has depth? And will they be able to play as well as the 1st string players. some of these key players will not be around in december. they'll be out with an injury. J/M/O

[Hammock Parties]

If are you really going to argue with me about Larry Johnson a RB who had roughly 3 good seasons and to many touches to Peyton Manning who is a lock of HOFer I will literally go off on you.

Manning has been starting since 1998 you douchebag.

You are the king of double standards.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Don;t mistake all "conservative style" coaches with Herm or Marty. Its not a coincidence that the team that wins the Superbowl usually has a ball control style offense with a good defense. Even the Colts won their championship that way.

No, they still had a top five offense and they ran on a team who was missing their best defender and whose QB was a human turnover machine. Had they been playing the Vikings, they damn sure wouldn't have been asspounding the ball up Saturday's rectum.

[Basileus777]

I wouldn't call Anthony Gonzalez a disappointment. He's pretty much met expectations.

[Hammock Parties]

Well, be sure to get him back if he's still available. White is a good RB #2 IMHO.

I was actually gonna pick him back up but someone snapped him up.

Maybe he'll trip over his fat and tear a knee...

[Mecca]

Manning has been starting since 1998 you douchebag.

You are the king of double standards.

This post makes literally 0 sense.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Manning has been starting since 1998 you douchebag.

You are the king of double standards.

Joe Montana played for 15 years.
Favre has played for 18 years.
Elway played for 15 years
Fucking Steve DeBerg played for like 20 years
Marino played for 15 years.

An 11th year QB is still in his prime.

[Basileus777]

No, they still had a top five offense and they ran on a team who was missing their best defender and whose QB was a human turnover machine. Had they been playing the Vikings, they damn sure wouldn't have been asspounding the ball up Saturday's rectum.

I'm not just talking about the Superbowl, the Colts played ball control offense their entire playoff run except that second half against the Pats. And considering how far they were down, they had no choice. Their offense was centered around the run and short passes. Remember how many receptions Addai how in the playoffs?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I wouldn't call Anthony Gonzalez a disappointment. He's pretty much met expectations.

First round receivers in that offense should average better than 55 yards a game.

[Mecca]

A QB can be a very productive player into his mid and even late 30's a late 20's running back is about done.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

The Colts played ball control offense their entire playoff run except that second half against the Pats. And considering how far they were down, they had no choice. Their offense was centered around the run and short passes. Remember how many receptions Addai how in the playoffs?

Because they played two Cover 2 teams (KC and Chi) who you could run all day on, and one team with an all world D that clamped off the deep routes.

They gameplanned to maximize their success based upon their opponents.

[Mecca]

It also doesn't exactly help that the best D player on the Colts literally can't make it more than 8 games a season.

[Hammock Parties]

A QB can be a very productive player into his mid and even late 30's a late 20's running back is about done.

Yes, we've all heard it before. And then Larry rips off 198 when there are actually holes to run through.

God I hope the Chiefs fix their line this offseason. You need to eat a giant plate of crow so badly. Larry is the same player just like Manning.

[dirk digler]

Manning has been starting since 1998 you douchebag.



That's dumb

[Hammock Parties]

Joe Montana played for 15 years.
Favre has played for 18 years.
Elway played for 15 years
Fucking Steve DeBerg played for like 20 years
Marino played for 15 years.

An 11th year QB is still in his prime.

Hey, Manning is great, I agree.

[Coach]

A QB can be a very productive player into his mid and even late 30's a late 20's running back is about done.

Depends on the late 20's RB comment. If his carries is very low, he can be a productive RB in the early 30's.

I think the bar is mid-30's is when you should cut all ties with a RB. Of course, if it's a LJ situation, meaning that the young RB from age 23 to 27 has averaged 300+ some carries or 400+ touches all together (Rushing/receiving) is about done.

Of course, there are rare occasions that they will still be productive to their 30's. It just depends on how they avoid the " big hit" and how they take care of their body and conditioning.

[Mecca]

Yes, we've all heard it before. And then Larry rips off 198 when there are actually holes to run through.

God I hope the Chiefs fix their line this offseason. You need to eat a giant plate of crow so badly. Larry is the same player just like Manning.

I'm really impressed than he ran on the Broncos, the last 2 seasons the only teams Larry Johnson has been productive against are teams that are horrible on defense.

[Coach]

It also doesn't exactly help that the best D player on the Colts literally can't make it more than 8 games a season.

Freeney or Sanders? Take your pick.

[Mecca]

Depends on the late 20's RB comment. If his carries is very low, he can be a productive RB in the early 30's.

I think the bar is mid-30's is when you should cut all ties with a RB. Of course, if it's a LJ situation, meaning that the young RB from age 23 to 27 has averaged 300+ some carries or 400+ touches all together (Rushing/receiving) is about done.

Of course, there are rare occasions that they will still be productive to their 30's. It just depends on how they avoid the " big hit" and how they take care of their body and conditioning.

Ok yes there are circumstances but the obvious point is, a big man with to many carries that takes big hits due to his size is obviously not the exception.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Yes, we've all heard it before. And then Larry rips off 198 when there are actually holes to run through.

God I hope the Chiefs fix their line this offseason. You need to eat a giant plate of crow so badly. Larry is the same player just like Manning.

No he's not. Fucking Sammy Morris would have run for 200 yards against Denver had he not gotten dinged. That defense is atrocious. So is Atlanta's run D. Those are the only two good games he's had all year.

[Mecca]

Freeney or Sanders? Take your pick.

I literally think Bob Sanders is the most injury prone big name player ever.

[Hammock Parties]

I'm really impressed than he ran on the Broncos, the last 2 seasons the only teams Larry Johnson has been productive against are teams that are horrible on defense.

Like I said, if they fix the line, he'll produce.

I'm sure you'll have some more bullshit to say when that happens.

"See, our line is just so good now, anyone can run behind it. Larry is doing OK but a real back would be getting something like 5.5 YPC behind this line. We need to draft another RB next year...Larry is done..."

[Dylan]

gee... fisher looks about 5' next to manning

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Depends on the late 20's RB comment. If his carries is very low, he can be a productive RB in the early 30's.

I think the bar is mid-30's is when you should cut all ties with a RB. Of course, if it's a LJ situation, meaning that the young RB from age 23 to 27 has averaged 300+ some carries or 400+ touches all together (Rushing/receiving) is about done.

Of course, there are rare occasions that they will still be productive to their 30's. It just depends on how they avoid the " big hit" and how they take care of their body and conditioning.

Runners with upright styles like Eddie George and Earl Campbell do not last because they take a pisspounding on every carry.

[Coach]

I literally think Bob Sanders is the most injury prone big name player ever.

I like to think Freeney is as well, but not as Sander-ese level. But still very critical, especially for their pass-rush.

[Coach]

Runners with upright styles like Eddie George and Earl Campbell do not last because they take a pisspounding on every carry.

Of course. And IIRC, wasn't that one of the knocks on LJ was the fact that he ran upright style, coming out of Penn State?

[Rain Man]

I literally think Bob Sanders is the most injury prone big name player ever.

I'm starting to think he's imaginary. Every Colts game I've seen over the last few years has started with the announcers saying, "Stupendous Bob Sanders is out for today's game, but what a defensive talent he is..." I'm thinking he's like Bill Brasky or something.

[Basileus777]

Because they played two Cover 2 teams (KC and Chi) who you could run all day on, and one team with an all world D that clamped off the deep routes.

They gameplanned to maximize their success based upon their opponents.

They did it against the Ravens too, though their offense didn't do shit that game. But I'm not disputing that they did it for matchup purposes. They still won the Superbowl by playing good defense and utilizing a ball control offense. It was a pretty significant departure from what they did in past years, and you could argue that it was one of the reasons they won the Superbowl that year despite being a weaker team on paper than the previous year. Well that and having a really easy path to the championship.

[Mecca]

Larry Johnson shouldn't be on the team after this year.......he's unproductive and he's an off the field issue. I can handle off the field issues if the guy is a great player, Larry isn't worth it.

You draft a RB milk him during his rookie contract then walk away and draft another one.

[eazyb81]

This Titans team is great. Reminds me of some of our good teams from the 90's.

[Hammock Parties]

This Titans team is great. Reminds me of some of our good teams from the 90's.

I don't think we EVER had a 1-2 RB punch like this. We probably would have won a fucking SB with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.

[Coach]

Larry Johnson shouldn't be on the team after this year.......he's unproductive and he's an off the field issue. I can handle off the field issues if the guy is a great player, Larry isn't worth it.

You draft a RB milk him during his rookie contract then walk away and draft another one.

Would be nice to have a O-line that can open the holes though. Yes, I know it's Kolby Smith, but even with LJ and/or Kolby Smith, outside of Atlanta and Denver, they haven't done shit on average to above averages defenses.

[eazyb81]

I don't think we EVER had a 1-2 RB punch like this. We probably would have won a ****ing SB with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.

Yeah, definitely not this good. But I'm just saying the style is similar.

[FAX]

Congratulations to the Tacks and Fisher.

Did you guys notice how the Tacks went after the Colts on offense when they were tied?

FAX

[Coach]

I don't think we EVER had a 1-2 RB punch like this. We probably would have won a fucking SB with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.

Almost did in 90. Barry Word and Christian Okoye.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I don't think we EVER had a 1-2 RB punch like this. We probably would have won a fucking SB with Chris Johnson and LenDale White.

If Marty couldn't win the Super Bowl with Phillip Rivers, Antonio Gates, LT, and Michael Turner, what makes you think he would have won one with fucking Bono or Grbac, Chris Johnson and LenDale White?

[Hammock Parties]

If Marty couldn't win the Super Bowl with Phillip Rivers, Antonio Gates, LT, and Michael Turner, what makes you think he would have won one with fucking Bono or Grbac, Chris Johnson and LenDale White?

See...all the Chargers lacked was an experienced QB...like Damon Huard...

[sportsman1]

Woo. That was great. They really sucked up until the end of the third but the ending of that game made it all worth it baby. Can't wait to get back to LP Field for the game against the Browns.

[Hammock Parties]

Woo. That was great. They really sucked up until the end of the third but the ending of that game made it all worth it baby. Can't wait to get back to LP Field for the game against the Browns.

Titans look like the #1 seed...

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'm starting to think he's imaginary. Every Colts game I've seen over the last few years has started with the announcers saying, "Stupendous Bob Sanders is out for today's game, but what a defensive talent he is..." I'm thinking he's like Bill Brasky or something.

I'm just waiting for the Chiefs to draft Ho Tran Sanders (S), Vietnam Tech in the 2025 draft and then convert him to corner.

[Basileus777]

See...all the Chargers lacked was an experienced QB...like Damon Huard...

Marlon McCree not acting like a fucking idiot would have sufficed. Oh, Marty....

[Dylan]

Clayton:

in the AFC :D

[sportsman1]

Oh its on lol. Actually that would be a hella good Super Bowl.

[Hammock Parties]

Clayton:

in the AFC :D

Eli is actually playing well this year...must be refreshing.

How many Giants fans have man crushes on Brandon Jacobs?

[boogblaster]

Colts need a Defense period ... They were lucky the year they won the SB .. their Defense that year was healthy and lucky ...

[Dylan]

I wish the Titans the best this season. I really mean that -- I watched the game on Sunday and I think its erroneous for the media to say the Titans are the best out there. The Giants are not the best out there --

Here's two short clips of highlights from last Sunday's games. The Giants at the Steelers and the Colts at the Titans. Big difference between the teams. The hitting alone is frightening. Peyton was not even pressured. If Peyton was on (knee) he would have been up 4 TDs. The Steelers i/m/o is a better team than the Titans. Rotheihosshamburger just had a bad night.

Colts at Titans

http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80c04a2b

The Giants at the Steelers
http://www.nfl.com/videos?videoId=09000d5d80bf7ca5


Vote for Flowers
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[Hammock Parties]

The Titans' d-line will make mincemeat of Roethlisberger.

[FAX]

The Tacks brought very little pressure in the form of blitzing in that game for some reason. I'm not sure what their defensive game plan was, to be honest. Whatever it was, it worked though.

You can't argue with that.

FAX

[beach tribe]

I think TN is a legit threat to the Giants or anyone else.

They have as good a chance to win the Bowl as anyone in the league.

[Frazod]

Well, this might save me in the pool. I can only hope that everybody else took it in the ass on that Jacksonville/Cleveland game just like I did. :grr:

And save me it did! :rockon:

[Dylan]

I think TN is a legit threat to the Giants or anyone else.

They have as good a chance to win the Bowl as anyone in the league.
Then you don't know the depth of the Giants... They proved themselves. However, I would never put the "Super Bowl" in the same sentence with the Giants. I want to be clear about that.

A team has to be complete in order to be an elite team. The Titans are not a complete team. They do not have one legitimate WR -- or an elite QB. I'm also hesistant to believe that a running game alone will take any team deep into the playoffs.

Also, I was surprised that Peyton Manning went untouched during the game. He had all day to sit in the pocket and throw the ball downfield. Dominant defenses do not let QBs hang around too long.

The Titans did not have a pass rush. nothing. The defensive line even had trouble getting away from their blockers. Unfortunetely, I believe Peyton is playing hurt. Otherwise, he would have scored at least 3 TDs.

If you look at it, the Titans barely got by the Ravens. The score at the end was 13-10. And the Titans defense played against an inexperienced rookie QB that managed to picked off -- still they won by 3 points. This is just my opinion, I do not consider the Titans dominant or elite.

However, I do like the Steelers. They're a hard hitting smashmouth and what I call an old style defense. I think they're excellent.

The Steelers test will come this weekend. If they beat the Redskins, then the Steelers will have only lost to two top NFC teams. If they lose, then they lost to three top NFC teams. Then I don't know ---

The Titans may very well be a good team. But until they face an elite offense and prove themselves -- the Steelers look like the team to beat in the AFC.

sorry the post is long... good nite.