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htismaqe
05-14-2009, 09:38 AM
They want Adam to win. They were begging people to vote for him two nights ago. Simon doesn't usually pander like that.

Good for them. The public still votes, not the judges.

Obviously, Danny deserved to go home.

dirk digler
05-14-2009, 09:41 AM
Obviously, Danny deserved to go home.

I agree based on Tuesday's performance he was the worst of the 3.

chubychecker
05-14-2009, 09:49 AM
Danny is a poor man's Michael Bolton

Frankie
05-14-2009, 09:56 AM
Like me.

I don't know about other posters. But I can't. I'm married.

Frankie
05-14-2009, 09:59 AM
True, I try not to say it around you though because, well, I like you to think you're the only one.

:banghead:

Jilly you beat me to this. This is the 2nd time today this has been done to me.

Frankie
05-14-2009, 10:01 AM
I've been watching the show since the freaks were on and again, they talked about Danny being in the finals in the first freaking week.

It's funny. Danny's friend was the one I thought would go on farther than him at first.

Frankie
05-14-2009, 10:03 AM
They want Adam to win. They were begging people to vote for him two nights ago. Simon doesn't usually pander like that.

And what was the Adam Lambert advertisement on the cape that that one performer started her act with? Should the show have allowed that?

DaKCMan AP
05-14-2009, 10:40 AM
I don't know about other posters. But I can't. I'm married.

No, you're not Awesome. Sorry.

DaKCMan AP
05-14-2009, 10:40 AM
And what was the Adam Lambert advertisement on the cape that that one performer started her act with? Should the show have allowed that?

Katy Perry is hot and, thus, can do what she wants.

Chiefnj2
05-14-2009, 12:03 PM
Interesting tidbit:

One of the AI backup singers explained why Simon criticized Kara for slamming Kris's performance last night. In a Twitter feed:

"In short, the backstory to what Simon said to Kara. I was told that all the judges were given the opp to work w/ each kid…
…they were told the time slot for each kid’s rhrsl. They could come & advise the contestant on how 2 get the most of their song.
But on rhrsl day, only one judge actually showed up and did that… guess which one."

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 12:13 PM
Katy Perry is hot and, thus, can do what she wants.

Exactly.

BigMeatballDave
05-14-2009, 12:50 PM
Katy Perry is hot and, thus, can do what she wants.
I love her!

BigMeatballDave
05-14-2009, 12:58 PM
Looks like Adam will win. So, we will get to hear a crap singer sing even crapier songs. Too bad its not 1987.

BigMeatballDave
05-14-2009, 01:00 PM
Its basically "Queer boy" Vs. "Boy Next Door"FYP

htismaqe
05-14-2009, 01:17 PM
Looks like Adam will win. So, we will get to hear a crap singer sing even crapier songs. Too bad its not 1987.

If only it were 1977. Danny could have been there.

Jilly
05-14-2009, 01:49 PM
Katy Perry is hot and, thus, can do what she wants.

She also kissed a girl and liked it....and who doesn't like that?

DaKCMan AP
05-14-2009, 01:51 PM
She also kissed a girl and liked it....and who doesn't like that?

Precisely. It's Awesome.

007
05-14-2009, 11:26 PM
Danny got booted huh? Guess I don't need to watch. Wait, I haven't watched since Hollywood week.

BigMeatballDave
05-19-2009, 07:46 PM
Hurry! Gather 'round your TVs. Its the 'Adam Lambert fellatio hour"

BigMeatballDave
05-19-2009, 08:14 PM
OMG That last song they sung sucked balls.

Frankie
05-19-2009, 08:36 PM
Did Seacrest keep saying LAMBERTS?!

Frankie
05-19-2009, 08:37 PM
Kris's version of "Ain't No Sunshine" was the best performance of the night. I'd buy that version in a heartbeat.

Fat Elvis
05-19-2009, 08:42 PM
OMG That last song they sung sucked balls.

Mountains and Hurricanes or some such nonsense....

Deberg_1990
05-19-2009, 09:45 PM
Ive got to wonder what the AI producers are thinking by closing out their season making their contestants sing a garbage pop song?? WTF??? That was downright asinine.

The Bad Guy
05-19-2009, 09:47 PM
The judges bias is amazing. It's like they are pushing America to vote for Adam.

Deberg_1990
05-19-2009, 09:50 PM
The judges bias is amazing. It's like they are pushing America to vote for Adam.

Thats probably a $$$$ decision more than anything.

They must feel like Adam will sell more records. If they are going to give the winner a contract, they want it to be someone who makes them the most coin.

jeffery
05-19-2009, 09:51 PM
All 4 judges were writing kris off at the end of the show that was pathetic...and to top kara writes a song she admits was out of kris' vocal range what a dirty trick to make adam look less GAY
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Deberg_1990
05-19-2009, 09:53 PM
All 4 judges were writing kris off at the end of the show that was pathetic...and to top kara writes a song she admits was out of kris' vocal range what a dirty trick to make adam look less GAY
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That song was garbage. They did neither artist any favors.

Fat Elvis
05-19-2009, 10:54 PM
I still think Kris will win. Last year everyone thought that wierd little kid who sung with his eyes closed was going to win....

dirk digler
05-20-2009, 08:47 AM
That last song was horrible and if I was one of the finalists I would go up on stage and say I refuse to sing that garbage song.

For the last 6 weeks or so they have been pushing Adam to win so it will be the greatest upset in AI history if Kris wins.

Chiefnj2
05-20-2009, 08:56 AM
The final ended up favoring Adam. Kara's song didn't suit Kris at all. Simon Fuller's song choices sucked horribly so Kris couldn't build any kind of lead going into the finale.

Shag
05-20-2009, 09:36 AM
All 4 judges were writing kris off at the end of the show that was pathetic...and to top kara writes a song she admits was out of kris' vocal range what a dirty trick to make adam look less GAY
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Because she just wrote the song this last week, after the finalists were determined? ROFL

The "idol song" is cheesy crap every year - no surprise there...

Jilly
05-20-2009, 09:41 AM
The final ended up favoring Adam. Kara's song didn't suit Kris at all. Simon Fuller's song choices sucked horribly so Kris couldn't build any kind of lead going into the finale.

Kara's song was horrible, period. I HATE the crap they put out for them. Even after they win and put it out as a single it ends up being the worst song they ever do. It's such cutesy pageantry type shit.

dirk digler
05-20-2009, 10:27 AM
Because she just wrote the song this last week, after the finalists were determined? ROFL

The "idol song" is cheesy crap every year - no surprise there...

I am pretty sure they have been working on that song for longer than week.

But I agree with you the idol song is always cheesy crap.

Deberg_1990
05-20-2009, 11:31 AM
I am pretty sure they have been working on that song for longer than week.

But I agree with you the idol song is always cheesy crap.

My main problem with that is the judges promote all season long "Stay true to yourself" "Find yourself as an artist" "Make the song your own" etc, etc...

Then the final song comes and they want to try and put a square peg in a round hole. WTF????

Jilly
05-20-2009, 01:11 PM
My main problem with that is the judges promote all season long "Stay true to yourself" "Find yourself as an artist" "Make the song your own" etc, etc...

Then the final song comes and they want to try and put a square peg in a round hole. WTF????

Exactly what I was thinking.

All I can imagine is like three people sitting around in a room trying to come up with a song that talks about dreams coming true, sipping on their Starbucks and filling in chords, one at a time. No authenticity, just commercialized bullshit. Not only that, but it wasn't even a song that could be improvised.

dirk digler
05-20-2009, 03:09 PM
My main problem with that is the judges promote all season long "Stay true to yourself" "Find yourself as an artist" "Make the song your own" etc, etc...

Then the final song comes and they want to try and put a square peg in a round hole. WTF????

Totally agree.

Also just to stir the pot it seems alot of people tuned out after Danny lost.

By comparison, the "Idol" performance finale drew 23.8 million with an 8.6 rating.

For "Idol," it was the competition's lowest-rated finale ever, including its first season summer run.

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 04:15 PM
Totally agree.

Also just to stir the pot it seems alot of people tuned out after Danny lost.No way! Danny was cheesy and boring. I mean, that's what most thought around here...:)

HolyHandgernade
05-20-2009, 04:52 PM
Well, I think Kris was slightly better than Adam in their first songs, Adam was incredible in the second songs, and I didn't care for either in the cheesy songs. But, here's the real difference maker:

Last week, they said only a million votes separated first and second place. Who do you think the Danny Gokey voters now vote for? I think the sway more towards Kris (for a variety of reasons). It doesn't matter if Adam was behind or ahead in that million vote spread, did he do enough with the second song to sway most of those votes his way?

Personally, I think Adam was the winner, but I think Kris will win the vote.

-CalHawk

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 07:17 PM
Anyone see the brief shot of Kara on stage in a bikini? Whoa!

007
05-20-2009, 07:21 PM
KISS seriously?

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 07:24 PM
KISS seriously?I never get tired of KISS. I'd prefer it be without Adam, though.

Delano
05-20-2009, 07:51 PM
I didn't think Kara had a sense of humor. LMAO

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 08:05 PM
Kris

dirk digler
05-20-2009, 08:08 PM
Damn I can't believe Kris won. I am shocked

Herzig
05-20-2009, 08:09 PM
Crazy...KC's David Cook last year, and Arkansas' Kris Allen this year...awesome

Deberg_1990
05-20-2009, 08:09 PM
Simon looked pissed, bored or didnt care....

It appears there was a slight backlash against the judges pimping Adam so hard.

Probably best in the long run. Kris is more mainstream pop. Adam is now free to do a record that more fits his character.

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 08:18 PM
Probably best in the long run. Kris is more mainstream pop. Adam is now free to do a record that more fits his character.Whats he gonna do, build a time machine so he can go back to the 80s and be the frontman of a glamband? :D

Fat Elvis
05-20-2009, 08:24 PM
I told you it was gonna be Kris.

Reaper16
05-20-2009, 08:36 PM
Homophobia + Vote For the Worst = Adam loses.

Frankie
05-20-2009, 08:46 PM
I didn't think Kara had a sense of humor. LMAO

I loved the way they shut the future porn star up.

Frankie
05-20-2009, 08:48 PM
I declare this year's final show by far the most entertaining of all of the finals so far. Well done.

BigMeatballDave
05-20-2009, 08:54 PM
Homophobia + Vote For the Worst = Adam loses.Please.:rolleyes: I think the voters got sick of Adam's screaming.

007
05-20-2009, 09:58 PM
Anyone see the brief shot of Kara on stage in a bikini? Whoa!pics?

Deberg_1990
05-20-2009, 10:18 PM
pics?

Best i could find. Kind of blurry. Fast forward to 2:15.

She had a smokin bod from what i could tell in HD.



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007
05-20-2009, 10:35 PM
lame

jjjayb
05-20-2009, 11:20 PM
Homophobia + Vote For the Worst = Adam loses.

Oh bulls**t. Get over it. Just because your guy loses doesn't mean homophobia. I'm about sick of this attitude. You think it might of had a little to do with not everyone liking his constant screaming into the mike? Of course not. It's gotta be all those homophobes. :rolleyes:

007
05-20-2009, 11:22 PM
Based on everything I have read in this thread, it definitely sounds like "Vote for the worst" finally proved they can make a difference.

HolyHandgernade
05-21-2009, 01:32 AM
Please.:rolleyes: I think the voters got sick of Adam's screaming.

Nope, like I predicted, Gokey voters went for Kris. Gokey was safe and came from a Church background, those voters went for Kris (some against Adam). Listening to the two of them sing We Are The Champions left no doubt in my mind who will actually be the bigger star. Adam has superior tone and range. I like Kris, happy for him that he won, but Adam was the star of the season.

-HH

Herzig
05-21-2009, 04:43 AM
Nope, like I predicted, Gokey voters went for Kris. Gokey was safe and came from a Church background, those voters went for Kris (some against Adam). Listening to the two of them sing We Are The Champions left no doubt in my mind who will actually be the bigger star. Adam has superior tone and range. I like Kris, happy for him that he won, but Adam was the star of the season.

-HH

I agree with this, but I think this was a combination of the judges constant fawning over Adam(downright disgusting at times), his heavy eyeliner, screaming, and dressing in drag that made people not vote for him. America loves an underdog. Also, I think the results reassure people that it is not rigged.

I'm happy for Kris...Arkansas will be proud of him.

OmahaChief
05-21-2009, 07:42 AM
I really enjoyed Adam on most nights. The problem was his screaming did wear on me. I got tired of hearing it in damn near every song. His best performance was Tracks of My Tears when he toned the screaming down and you could understand all the words. I love glam metal so I was drawn to Adam at first but Kris really had a style that was cool. I liked the fact he could cross genre lines. I thought his duet with Keith Urban was amazing while Adam with Kiss was good but a bit off. I did like Adam with Queen though. He has a little Freddie Mercury in him.

In the end I was OK with either winning but I would be more apt to buy a Kris album than an Adam album. I wish them both luck.

The Rick
05-21-2009, 08:44 AM
I really enjoyed Adam on most nights. The problem was his screaming did wear on me. I got tired of hearing it in damn near every song. His best performance was Tracks of My Tears when he toned the screaming down and you could understand all the words. I love glam metal so I was drawn to Adam at first but Kris really had a style that was cool. I liked the fact he could cross genre lines. I thought his duet with Keith Urban was amazing while Adam with Kiss was good but a bit off. I did like Adam with Queen though. He has a little Freddie Mercury in him.

In the end I was OK with either winning but I would be more apt to buy a Kris album than an Adam album. I wish them both luck.
OK, I've never done this before so here goes....

This.

The Rick
05-21-2009, 08:47 AM
OK, I've never done this before so here goes....

This.
OK, I'll expand a little more with some random thoughts:

I know a lot of people who said that Adam's screaming wore on them over time.

I also know a lot of people who said they felt like Adam was favored. Someone said the whole Katy Perry cape thing was over the top for them.

I thought Kris' duet with Keith Urban was great. I never thought about it until last night, but he could have a future in that type of new age country.

Jilly
05-21-2009, 09:05 AM
CALLED IT! Man, I am awesome. It's that Kris is a singer/songwriter and that's more hot right now. I'm ecstatic though, I thought he was a much better talent.

Deberg_1990
05-21-2009, 09:41 AM
I'm ecstatic though, I thought he was a much better talent.

Really? Wow...

I think Kris is talented, but hes pretty much mainstream pop. No edge at all.

Jilly
05-21-2009, 09:52 AM
Really? Wow...

I think Kris is talented, but hes pretty much mainstream pop. No edge at all.

I don't think he's mainstream pop at all. I think he's more of a unique. I think we haven't heard what he can do yet.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong!

Deberg_1990
05-21-2009, 09:54 AM
I don't think he's mainstream pop at all. I think he's more of a unique. I think we haven't heard what he can do yet.

I'm sorry, but you are wrong!

Oh....congrats on your wish of seeing Adam sing Queen. That was unexpected and pretty cool.

Jilly
05-21-2009, 10:05 AM
Oh....congrats on your wish of seeing Adam sing Queen. That was unexpected and pretty cool.

yeah, I called that too. I'm seriously awesome. Watch out DAKCMAN!

The Franchise
05-21-2009, 10:51 AM
pics?

.

Frankie
05-21-2009, 11:10 AM
Really? Wow...

I think Kris is talented, but hes pretty much mainstream pop. No edge at all.

"Edge" is overrated. What's wrong with mainstream Pop? It's another genre in music that should considered equally. In fact Pop and Country music are and always will be the longest lasting music genres, whether you like them or not.

Deberg_1990
05-21-2009, 11:12 AM
"Edge" is overrated. What's wrong with mainstream Pop? It's another genre in music that should considered equally. In fact Pop and Country music are and always will be the longest lasting music genres, whether you like them or not.

Nothing is wrong with pop. I love pop. I hate bad pop like that awful "No Boundaries" song the past few nights.


I hope they write better songs for him.

Frankie
05-21-2009, 11:14 AM
Nothing is wrong with pop. I love pop. I hate bad pop like that awful "No Boundaries" song the past few nights.


I hope they write better songs for him.

I can love or hate any song from any genre. I've never been genre-bound.

arrowheadnation
05-21-2009, 11:44 AM
I blame Kris's win on parents who provide their 10-14 year old daughters with cell phones.

Chiefnj2
05-21-2009, 11:51 AM
I think Gokey fans naturally drifted to Kris. Lambert can sing circles around Kris as was demonstrated when they both sang with Queen, but they both need to find a good fit. Even though Adam has better vocals than Kris, Kris did a better job with Keith Urban than Adam did with Kiss. Beth was good, but then the rest was meh. Hopefully they can both find some decent writers that fit their persona. Kris may be best suited going the lite-fm/country route and Adam should keep up with the glam/alternative bit but realize he can't go overboard on every song - 2 wails per album.

The Franchise
05-21-2009, 11:56 AM
"Edge" is overrated. What's wrong with mainstream Pop? It's another genre in music that should considered equally. In fact Pop and Country music are and always will be the longest lasting music genres, whether you like them or not.

They will always be the longest lasting music genres because a majority of the population have no musical taste at all.

The Franchise
05-21-2009, 11:57 AM
And that's not a knock on you either Frankie.

The Franchise
05-21-2009, 02:40 PM
pics?

.

BigMeatballDave
05-21-2009, 03:59 PM
WOW. Kara looks HOT. She's like 38, too.

BigMeatballDave
05-21-2009, 04:02 PM
I blame Kris's win on parents who provide their 10-14 year old daughters with cell phones.Thats cool. Had Adam won, I would have blamed the fags...:D

Deberg_1990
06-09-2009, 03:23 PM
Adam Lambert is gay. Shocker!

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/adam-lambert-finally-confirms-i-m-gay/23594?nc

BigMeatballDave
06-09-2009, 04:53 PM
Adam Lambert is gay. Shocker!

http://omg.yahoo.com/news/adam-lambert-finally-confirms-i-m-gay/23594?ncSTOP THE PRESS!!1! NO WAY!1!!

BigMeatballDave
06-09-2009, 04:57 PM
T
His sexuality is an act.

Ouch...:D

Deberg_1990
06-09-2009, 07:07 PM
heh, i personally have ZERO problem with Lamberts sexual preference.

I do however think its pretty obvious the show tried to hide it all season long.

BigRedChief
06-10-2009, 09:09 AM
heh, i personally have ZERO problem with Lamberts sexual preference.

I do however think its pretty obvious the show tried to hide it all season long.
If they tried to hide it they did it really bad. The guy is as gay as they come. NTTIAWWT

BigMeatballDave
06-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Sexual orientation would never drive me away from their music. If its good, its good.

Comanche
06-10-2009, 11:21 AM
WOW. Kara looks HOT. She's like 38, too.

She needs a suntan . . .at least the spray on kind.

Frankie
06-10-2009, 05:00 PM
Sexual orientation would never drive me away from their music. If its good, its good.

Yep.