****Official Kansas @ Kansas State Game Thread****

[kstater]

11:30 Versus

[kstater]

I know it's basketball season and all, but I figured at least one KU fan would be interested in football still to start a game thread an hour before the game.

[alanm]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a stream up anywhere for this game. I have Direct TV and they dropped Versus because they are fighting them about fees concerning the NHL. Meanwhile no Versus. :cuss:

[kstater]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a stream up anywhere for this game. I have Direct TV and they dropped Versus because they are fighting them about fees concerning the NHL. Meanwhile no Versus. :cuss:

Possible link near game time,


http://www.myp2pforum.eu/ncaa/46020-ncaa-football-week-10-streaming.html

[Skip Towne]

I was wondering if anyone knows of a stream up anywhere for this game. I have Direct TV and they dropped Versus because they are fighting them about fees concerning the NHL. Meanwhile no Versus. :cuss:

Me too

[kstater]

http://www.justin.tv/wootersports/popout


Looks as though it's only 15 seconds behind or so. Not bad for a stream.

[Mr. Plow]

Get the losing streak stopped. Should be a good one. If the Hawks play like they can play, I say KU wins easily. If they play like they've played the last 4 weeks, KSU gets the win.

[kstater]

Prediction time:

Whoever scores the most points wins.

[kstater]

Heck of a return to start it.

[SPchief]

Can I root for a loss for both teams?

[SPchief]

Where's all the hawk fans?

[kstater]

Sit your ass down.

[kstater]

So after a 70 yard kickoff return, KU comes away with 0 points.


Missed FG

[kstater]

Damn Thomas is a beast. 20 yard gain with 10 coming dragging 3 guys along.

[kstater]

Damn, negates a big gain.

[Tiger's Fan]

Good luck Cat fans and muck fizzou!

[SPchief]

Zero reason to tackle the WR there

[kstater]

I'll give Reesing some credit, that ball was so horribly under thrown, the defender didn't have a whole lot of chance to miss the reciever.

[SPchief]

So when do they pull Reesing?

[kstater]

Nice stick, he's short

[kstater]

Reesingception

[kstater]

And the PF

[SPchief]

LMAO Reecerception

17 seconds to throw and throws it right to the kitty

[Mr. Laz]

how can that be called a personal foul when the guy was a legitimate ball carrier?

[kstater]

how can that be called a personal foul when the guy was a legitimate ball carrier?

Helmet to helmet.

[Tiger's Fan]

how can that be called a personal foul when the guy was a legitimate ball carrier?

Helmet to helmet, but the guy did kind of fall into him that way. Still legit call.

[Mr. Laz]

Helmet to helmet.
He was running with the ball he wasn't defenseless.

running backs get hit helmet to helmet all the time

i don't get it

[Mr. Laz]

terrible throw

[LTL]

Possible link near game time,


http://www.myp2pforum.eu/ncaa/46020-ncaa-football-week-10-streaming.html

Thanks for this, I couldn't even find a audio link.

[kstater]

Nice stop there.

[kstater]

4th and 2

[BigOlChiefsfan]

dang

[kstater]

Overthrew him by 1/2 a step.

[kstater]

Always a good move to have 2 QB's on the field. Frees up a defender

[kstater]

KU 3 and out.

[SPchief]

LMAO

[Tiger's Fan]

That was a pathetic series.

The only thing that will keep this game so close is states lack of a passing game.

[kstater]

A receiver taller than 5 5 catches that.

[kstater]

Toss the hanky there.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Both QBs look awful

[kstater]

Both QBs look awful

Yes, but only 1 had Heisman hopes at the beginning of the year.

[HC_Chief]

Yes, but 1 had Heisman hopes at the beginning of the year.

He is falling apart just like Chase Daniel did last year. Same scenario: great seasons leading up to a hyped senior season, only to play like shit.

They've been speculating that Reesing has a groin injury... could be, there is something definitely different and wrong with his game.

[kstater]

This should be interesting.

[luv]

Score?

[kstater]

Holy shit, it's good.


3-0 KSU

[SPchief]

That might be enough the way reesing is playing

[kstater]

That's the kicker we expected.

[Priest31kc]

He is falling apart just like Chase Daniel did last year. Same scenario: great seasons leading up to a hyped senior season, only to play like shit.

They've been speculating that Reesing has a groin injury... could be, there is something definitely different and wrong with his game.

Chase didn't look this bad, and he still put up a 72% completion rate, 4,335 yards and 39 TDs, which is still amazing numbers. Reesing currently only has a 64% completion rate, only has 2,400 yds and 16 TDs. And his team will not win 10 games and the Big 12 North.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nice kick, can we screw up another chance with good field position?

[teedubya]

HISTORY AWAITS!!!

[kstater]

Nice play. TD KU

7-3

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

There you go Touchdown Briscoe!

[KC_Connection]

They have to find a way to get the ball to Briscoe more often. He's by far this team's best player.

[KC_Connection]

Where does Briscoe go in the draft this year, btw?

[kstater]

Fuck, catch that fucking ball.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

D'oh! Dude had a TD

[kstater]

That couldn't have been a more perfect pass.

[kstater]

Wow, a rare leg whip.

[KC_Connection]

WTF is a leg whip?

[kstater]

WTF is a leg whip?


Something that wasn't on that play.

[KC_Connection]

Something that wasn't on that play.
Indeed.

[Tiger's Fan]

Hell of a punt.

[KC_Connection]

Is there some reason that idiot decided to catch that punt?

[kstater]

CATS BALL

[SPchief]

way to not slide to try and get that extra yard

[KC_Connection]

Reesing trying to do too much, as always.

[Tiger's Fan]

Ole odd todd is just a TO machine lately.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Fking slide

[POND_OF_RED]

I think Reesing's been shotgunning too many franzia bags lately.

[kstater]

I think Reesing's been shotgunning too many franzia bags lately.

LMAO

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Nice D

[kstater]

Eh, gotta recognize.

[Tiger's Fan]

Nice!

[kstater]

Missed FG

Still 7-3 KU

[Sure-Oz]

Nice fg...so whats going on this game, reesing sucking again?

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Wide right

LACES OUT DAN!!!11

[Tiger's Fan]

Wow, a defensive stand. Where the hell did that come from.

[kstater]

Sniffed that one out.

[Tiger's Fan]

He fuckin slid that damn time.

[kstater]

I think Reesing forgot to release that one.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow he had all day and lost it!

[kstater]

Don't think you get to tackle the defender.


Annnd a reesing fumble.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Dammitt Todd SLIDE :cuss:

[kstater]

Gregory's actually decent on these timing routes.

[KC_Connection]

Once again...Reesing does something stupid. And it will probably cost them points.

[kstater]

Fuck

[KC_Connection]

I'm beginning to think benching him might not be a bad idea if he keeps playing without his head.

[Sure-Oz]

awesome defense

[kstater]

TD KSU


9-7 KSU pending EP

[kstater]

cross your fingers

[Sure-Oz]

So are all 3 TO's by Reesing? i was expecting KU to come ou smoking, esp Todd after last week

[kstater]

EP is good.

10-7

[eazyb81]

LOL, Reesing is an absolute mess.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah...that fumble might have just cost them the game and basically the season. Bench him.

[kstater]

Guess Mangino figures Reesing can't fumble a kneeldown.

[eazyb81]

By the way, it's truly amazing what Snyder has done with KSU this year. He completely owns all Big 12 North coaches. I had my doubts about him coming back, but I was wrong.

[kstater]

LMAO


"If you can't get in the endzone you're not going to win ballgames."

[KC_Connection]

lol...no confidence in Reesing there, didn't want to lose it again...

[Sure-Oz]

Yeah...that fumble might have just cost them the game and basically the season. Bench him.

Isn't KU's backup dogshit

[Tiger's Fan]

By the way, it's truly amazing what Snyder has done with KSU this year. He completely owns all Big 12 North coaches. I had my doubts about him coming back, but I was wrong.

We were all wrong. The guy is a legend.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Yeah...that fumble might have just cost them the game and basically the season. Bench him.

I was against benching him at first, but this is getting out of hand

Something isn't right with him

[KC_Connection]

Isn't KU's backup dogshit
Probably...he's a freshman.

If Reesing didn't have 3 turnovers this game, KU would be easily winning this one, though. He's singlehandedly losing this one right now.

[kstater]

Not saying a win's in the bag, it's not, but:

Since 1990 KSU is 122-22 (85-percent) scoring first and 137-5 when leading at halftime.

[Sure-Oz]

Probably...he's a freshman.

If Reesing didn't have 3 turnovers this game, KU would be easily winning this one, though. He's singlehandedly losing this one right now.

I havent seen much KU football, is this 3 games he's been a turnover machine? I still think he gives KU the best chance to win and it'd be a shitty way to end his career like this, even if im not a fan

[kstater]

I suspect Thomas will get about 20 carries in the second half.

[kstater]

I see Snyder has figured out a way to mimick this new Wildcat craze that's been going around.

[Sure-Oz]

That couldve been a td if that lineman could move to the left a bit

[kstater]

Go, go, go.

[kstater]

Awesome time management.

[KC_Connection]

You guys are pretty bad with the timeouts.

[kstater]

You guys are pretty bad with the timeouts.


It's always been a problem with Snyder.

[KC_Connection]

I havent seen much KU football, is this 3 games he's been a turnover machine? I still think he gives KU the best chance to win and it'd be a shitty way to end his career like this, even if im not a fan
I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before because KU was getting killed by far superior football teams, particularly in the line play. KState isn't that, though...today he's just turning the ball over because he's a moron that's trying to do too much.

[kstater]

Too easy.

[Sure-Oz]

I was willing to give him the benefit of the doubt before because KU was getting killed by far superior football teams, particularly in the line play. KState isn't that, though...today he's just turning the ball over because he's a moron that's trying to do too much.

He was good at what the defense gave him, i think he needs to just get his head out of his ass. I remember chase had a crappy year last year following the heisman push. Just suprised a similiar type of thing is happening to Reesing.

[kstater]

Thomas has been 1 broken tackle from a TD like 10 times today.

[kstater]

TD KSU


16-7

EP coming up.

[kstater]

EP good

17-7

[kstater]

Excellent tackle.

[GoHuge]

Probably...he's a freshman.

If Reesing didn't have 3 turnovers this game, KU would be easily winning this one, though. He's singlehandedly losing this one right now.
Uh not really sure if your actually watching the game or not. Banks dropped an easy six, was on his way to the house on the next play and Stuckey made an amazing play that just did enough to save a TD and then we had another drive stopped because of a bull shit leg whip penalty that didn't happen. Not seeing where KU is dominating the game. Reesing playing for the Cats on every other play and they have 34 rushing yards. If K State was capitalizing on the turnovers a little better this game could be 21-7. Not sure what the hell your watching. Just so you know KU and K State are playing on Versus. You might want to check what channel your TV is on.
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[Sure-Oz]

Good god he looks like shit

[kstater]

Wow, Reesing had some happy feet there. Pocket hadn't even started to collapse before he started dancing.

[kstater]

Oh fuck me.


Whew, he ruled it down.

[Mr. Laz]

Just goes to show you what good coaching does ... it took Snyder all of 3/4 games to turn Prince's talent into a legit team.

kudos to the kittykats

[kstater]

What I'd do for a QB that could throw.

[KC_Connection]

Uh not really sure if your actually watching the game or not. Banks dropped an easy six, was on his way to the house on the next play and Stuckey made an amazing play that just did enough to save a TD and then we had another drive stopped because of a bull shit leg whip penalty that didn't happen. Not seeing where KU is dominating the game. Reesing playing for the Cats on every other play and they have 34 rushing yards. If K State was capitalizing on the turnovers a little better this game could be 21-7. Not sure what the hell your watching. Just so you know KU and K State are playing on Versus. You might want to check what channel your TV is on.
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Please stop fucking whining about a innocuous comment, you piece of shit.

[kstater]

Safety blitz just creamed Reesing

[kstater]

Holee shit

Missed chipshot, still 17-7

[Sure-Oz]

LMAO wtf kind of kick was that

[eazyb81]

Wow...how do you miss that?

[KC_Connection]

I think our kicker might be the worst in the NCAA.

[kstater]

Damn, just about broke it.


Through 3,

KSU 17
KU 7

[KC_Connection]

Yeah...fuck that, I'm going to walk-on as a kicker in my senior year. Enough of this nonsense.

[kstater]

Big drive coming up.

[KC_Connection]

Big drive coming up.
I predict a turnover or a missed kick.

[KC_Connection]

WTF was that pass on 2nd down

[Sure-Oz]

Great pass

[KC_Connection]

WTF was that pass on 2nd down?>??

[kstater]

Meier just got jacked up.

[KC_Connection]

Meier just got jacked up.

Reesing got jacked up way worse earlier.

[kstater]

LG lifted his head.

[KC_Connection]

Oh for fuck's sake. Keep shooting yourselves in the foot...I don't want to rely on our shitty kicker for points here.

[Sure-Oz]

Wow barely

[kstater]

FG good.


17-10 KSU

[GoHuge]

Please stop fucking whining about a innocuous comment, you piece of shit.
Wow piece of shit for calling you out for a dumb ass comment. Lol Go fuck yourself.
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[KC_Connection]

Wow piece of shit for calling you out for a dumb ass comment. Lol Go **** yourself.
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How the hell was it a dumbass comment? The only reason KU didn't have the lead at half was Reesing's turnovers, you stupid ****er. It was kind of obvious.

[kstater]

Thomas turns a loss into 4 yards.

[kstater]

Nice, 2 more and it's over.

[KC_Connection]

Missed sack...game over?

[kstater]

Thomas for 5

[kstater]

To the Fieldhouse

[Sure-Oz]

Yeah i'd say Reesing cost them this win

[kstater]

Yeah i'd say Reesing cost them this win

Yup, KSU's nearly 300 yards rushing only played a minor role.

[kstater]

That be game. Time for a little V formation.

[BigOlChiefsfan]

Every Cat a Wildman!

[kstater]

I really don't understand why you are trying to write off the possibility that KU can win 3 football games. They even beat KSU and MU last year.
Because they won't.
But KU still basically controls their own destiny, so to speak. That's been my entire point.
No, no they don't.
Nebraska is 2-2 and has 4 games remaining.

Sat, Nov 7 (22) Oklahoma TBA --
Sat, Nov 14 at Kansas TBA --
Sat, Nov 21 Kansas State TBA --
Fri, Nov 27 at Colorado 3:30 pm

They'll lose to OU, and all KU has to do is beat them at home. Uh...why can't this happen?
Because it can't
If 4 wins isn't going to cut it, which of these 4 teams is going to win 5 games? I'd love to know.
Not KU, KSU has a chance now.
Coach...you're saying KU doesn't have a chance to beat these guys? Seriously?

Doesn't look like it.

[petegz28]

KU is out of it.

[kstater]

Translation: "I like beating KU"

[kstater]

ROCK CHALK BABY

[the Talking Can]

Snyder is a hell of a coach.

[KC_Connection]

You do realize that I never said they would actually win the 3 games right? Only that they could, that it was a possibility. Maybe you don't understand the difference.

KU would have won this game if it wasn't for Reesing's idiocy in the 1st half and the lack of a kicker. Both teams are shit.


Because they won't.
But they could have.


No, no they don't.

Yes, they did control their own destiny when I fucking wrote that last week.


Because it can't
It could have happened, then.


Not KU, KSU has a chance now.

KSU still sucks, that much was confirmed for me today. But congrats on having the opportunity to win our shitty division.

[King_Chief_Fan]

nothing better than a KU loss......

[KC_Connection]

And hey, at least I'm not a fucking bandwagoner like everybody else in this fucking fanbase.

The expectations have to be lowered considerably, though. It might come down to the Thanksgiving game against MU for bowl eligibility.

[GoHuge]

How the hell was it a dumbass comment? The only reason KU didn't have the lead at half was Reesing's turnovers, you stupid ****er. It was kind of obvious.
Yeah and if Banks didn't drop an easy six and didn't get tripped up you could have said the same about the Cats in the first half. Only difference is the Cats actually did do something with their chances. Doesn't matter now. Game, set, match. Look at that beautiful Wabash Cannonball! Order is restored in the Sunflower Showdown. Hope KU enjoyed their time while it while it lasted. Put Mangino down for another sub .500 Big 12 season. You gotta think at some point that guy is got to be on the hot seat. One Big 12 winning record season in what 8 years? That's gonna be one big hot seat.
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[Sure-Oz]

Yup, KSU's nearly 300 yards rushing only played a minor role.

No question KSU earned this win...but reesing hurt them big time

[Sure-Oz]

And hey, at least I'm not a ****ing bandwagoner like everybody else in this ****ing fanbase.

The expectations have to be lowered considerably, though. It might come down to the Thanksgiving game against MU for bowl eligibility.

Should be a fun game

[chiefqueen]

No bowl game for KU... even if KU beats Neb. & Mizzou too many teams in the Big XII & nationally will have 7+ wins.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah and if Banks didn't drop an easy six and didn't get tripped up you could have said the same about the Cats in the first half.

But he did, and KU had the lead before Reesing's stupid ass play.


Only difference is the Cats actually did do something with their chances. Doesn't matter now. Game, set, match. Look at that beautiful Wabash Cannonball! Order is restored in the Sunflower Showdown. Hope KU enjoyed their time while it while it lasted. Put Mangino down for another sub .500 Big 12 season. You gotta think at some point that guy is got to be on the hot seat. One Big 12 winning record season in what 8 years? That's gonna be one big hot seat.
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Mangino won this team an Orange Bowl 2 years ago...he's not going anywhere for a long time.

[KC_Connection]

No bowl game for KU... even if KU beats Neb. & Mizzou too many teams in the Big XII & nationally will have 7+ wins.
Are you some kind of retard? You don't think 7 wins in the Big 12 will get you a bowl game?

[KC_Connection]

KU is out of it.
I would save your bragging until you actually beat Baylor. Looking a bit tight there right now.

[KC_Connection]

Should be a fun game
Could be Reesing's last game if they lose that one.

[Fritz88]

basketball time

[BigOlChiefsfan]

Nice game, good luck to KSU and KU in all their remaining games.

[chiefqueen]

And hey, at least I'm not a ****ing bandwagoner like everybody else in this ****ing fanbase.

The expectations have to be lowered considerably, though. It might come down to the Thanksgiving game against MU for bowl eligibility.

IMO KU has to win out to get to a bowl. Too many teams will end up with 7+ wins and KU ain't "sexy" enough to take an at large spot left by a conference not being able to fill all of their slots.

This no 6-6 will go bowling, unless they are conference champs, and IMO they will be a few 7-4 teams from BCS conferences who will not go bowling.

[petegz28]

I would save your bragging until you actually beat Baylor. Looking a bit tight there right now.

I never said anything about MU, I said KU is out of it.

BTW, MU is up 27-16 since you are concerned.

[kstater]

Are you some kind of retard? You don't think 7 wins in the Big 12 will get you a bowl game?


Actually it's feasible that the Big 12 gets enough teams eligible to have all the tie ins taken and still have a team not get a bowl. IMO KU is the odd team out.

[notorious]

IMO KU has to win out to get to a bowl. Too many teams will end up with 7+ wins and KU ain't "sexy" enough to take an at large spot left by a conference not being able to fill all of their slots.

This no 6-6 will go bowling, unless they are conference champs, and IMO they will be a few 7-4 teams from BCS conferences who will not go bowling.

If their AD can get them into a BCS a couple of years ago when they shouldn't have, he can get them a bowl game this year.

[Tactical Funky]

What in the hell happened to KU's offense? And Todd Reesing? And our running game? And the disciplined, hard-nosed football that we once knew and loved under Mangino?

Argh. So frustrating that this team continues to shoot itself in the foot week after week. Take care of the ball and we're probably 7-1.

That being said, I'm with this team to the end. They've brought me a lot of joy as a long-suffering Jayhawk football fan. This season is definitely taxing considering the expectations that were placed on this team, though. :(

[kstater]

To the 'Fieldhouse

[notorious]

Unfortunately for KU, this may be their last chance a being a good team for a few years. I don't see a ton of talent coming up in the most important position: QB.

[Tactical Funky]

To the 'Fieldhouse
I love KU basketball, no doubt, but I sat through many heartbreaking and downright ugly games during the Terry Allen years. I'm no flake.

Rock Chalk.

[RNR]

What in the hell happened to KU's offense? And Todd Reesing? And our running game? And the disciplined, hard-nosed football that we once knew and loved under Mangino?

Argh. So frustrating that this team continues to shoot itself in the foot week after week. Take care of the ball and we're probably 7-1.

That being said, I'm with this team to the end. They've brought me a lot of joy as a long-suffering Jayhawk football fan. This season is definitely taxing considering the expectations that were placed on this team, though. :(

Netraul observation but as someone who dismissed Synder as a PR stunt I have to admit he has done a great job~

[notorious]

As a cynical KSU fan, I have to agree. I am very suprised of the results so far.

[GoHuge]

But he did, and KU had the lead before Reesing's stupid ass play.


Mangino won this team an Orange Bowl 2 years ago...he's not going anywhere for a long time.
Well when you've been a perennial loser I don't think one aberration of a season sustains your job forever. Dude has one winning season in the Big 12. Hey I at least give you credit for being a loyal fan when the rest of the bandwagon KU fans are silent and absent today even if you are unrealistic, but alot of die hard fans can be and I've been there myself a time or two. Just not to the level of stupidity that you've taken it to today. Hey basketball season is under way and KU is for real in that. I'm already bracing myself for the scrotum licking that's on its way when the KU bandwagoners show back up for basketball season.
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[notorious]

Well when you've been a perennial loser I don't think one aberration of a season sustains your job forever. Dude has one winning season in the Big 12. Hey I at least give you credit for being a loyal fan when the rest of the bandwagon KU fans are silent and absent today even if you are unrealistic, but alot of die hard fans can be and I've been there myself a time or two. Just not to the level of stupidity that you've taken it to today. Hey basketball season is under way and KU is for real in that. I'm already bracing myself for the scrotum licking that's on its way when the KU bandwagoners show back up for basketball season.
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There were a shitload of bandwagon KSU fans, too.

KU has had more then one winning season, FWIW.


As a KSU fan, I am glad that the Cats are doing well, but please don't skew the facts of other teams.

[chiefqueen]

Are you some kind of retard? You don't think 7 wins in the Big 12 will get you a bowl game?

This year...YES. The big 12 already has 10 teams with 5+ wins (everyone but Baylor and Colo). The Big 12 only has 8 spots (9 if ther get 2 teams in the BCS - AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN THIS YEAR).

If 9 teams end up w/7 wins (I now its a small probability but could happen), a 7-win Big 12 team could be odd-man out.

6 wins will not get a Big 12 team to a bowl game this year,

[kepp]

What in the hell happened to KU's offense? And Todd Reesing?

I've heard it said here before, but Reesing's sr. season is looking a LOT like Chase Daniel's. There almost has to be something amiss with him...some nagging injury. I loathe kU, but I know Reesing is a much better QB than he's been showing.

[Tactical Funky]

Netraul observation but as someone who dismissed Synder as a PR stunt I have to admit he has done a great job~
Snyder is a hell of a coach; what he did to pull KSU out of the depths of suckitude was nothing short of amazing. This season he's really coaching up a rag-tag squad that has a few very good pieces but not much else. Credit to him for that.

Now, if anyone sees KU's once-prolific offense, let me know where it went...

[Tactical Funky]

I've heard it said here before, but Reesing's sr. season is looking a LOT like Chase Daniel's. There almost has to be something amiss with him...some nagging injury. I loathe kU, but I know Reesing is a much better QB than he's been showing.
Agreed about the parallels to Daniel's senior year.

According to Mangino, Reesing has been struggling with a groin injury since the CU game. He's definitely not scrambling as well and he's throwing balls in the dirt a lot, not to mention the turnovers. I've never seen him like this and if it is indeed mostly due to his injury, he should be pulled for Pick. Give the new kid some experience since the season is essentially over anyways.

[Priest31kc]

I've heard it said here before, but Reesing's sr. season is looking a LOT like Chase Daniel's. There almost has to be something amiss with him...some nagging injury. I loathe kU, but I know Reesing is a much better QB than he's been showing.

Chase didn't look this bad, and he still put up a 72% completion rate, 4,335 yards and 39 TDs, which is still amazing numbers. Reesing currently only has a 64% completion rate, only has 2,400 yds and 16 TDs. And his team will not win 10 games and the Big 12 North.

[googlegoogle]

When Snyder had those mediocre years his team didn't have good athletes on the offensive line even though they were highly ranked by stupid rivals.com.

[chiefqueen]

Snyder is a hell of a coach; what he did to pull KSU out of the depths of suckitude was nothing short of amazing. This season he's really coaching up a rag-tag squad that has a few very good pieces but not much else. Credit to him for that.

Now, if anyone sees KU's once-prolific offense, let me know where it went...

Now, let's see how many KU oral commitments he plucks away in the next 3 months.

[petegz28]

MU is going to blow their lead if they don't get their shit together

[KC_Connection]

Well when you've been a perennial loser I don't think one aberration of a season sustains your job forever. Dude has one winning season in the Big 12. Hey I at least give you credit for being a loyal fan when the rest of the bandwagon KU fans are silent and absent today even if you are unrealistic, but alot of die hard fans can be and I've been there myself a time or two. Just not to the level of stupidity that you've taken it to today. Hey basketball season is under way and KU is for real in that. I'm already bracing myself for the scrotum licking that's on its way when the KU bandwagoners show back up for basketball season.
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You do realize that KU hasn't been a perennial loser at all compared to what they were before Mangino came here, right? They won an Orange Bowl and have been in several bowl games, which is all anybody asks for. What the hell are you expecting exactly?

[KC_Connection]

IMO KU has to win out to get to a bowl. Too many teams will end up with 7+ wins and KU ain't "sexy" enough to take an at large spot left by a conference not being able to fill all of their slots.

This no 6-6 will go bowling, unless they are conference champs, and IMO they will be a few 7-4 teams from BCS conferences who will not go bowling.

KU had 7 wins last year and easily got into a bowl game. Stop making yourself look stupid.

[KC_Connection]

I never said anything about MU, I said KU is out of it.

BTW, MU is up 27-16 since you are concerned.

27-26 now, evidently.

[luv]

Not reading back very far, but since I see people talking about basketball, I'm assuming KU lost?

[KC_Connection]

Actually it's feasible that the Big 12 gets enough teams eligible to have all the tie ins taken and still have a team not get a bowl. IMO KU is the odd team out.
Even if your opinion was valid, there are 3 games remaining, and KU is facing 2 teams that they will be in competition with for those spots. Which is why I said the final game would likely be important for their bowl eligibility.

[petegz28]

27-26 now, evidently.

Wow, are you always this slow?

[luv]

KU had 7 wins last year and easily got into a bowl game. Stop making yourself look stupid.

I'd say quit making yourself look like an asshole, but I know you can't help it.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Congrats Cat fans. What a disapointing season this is turning into.
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[GoHuge]

There were a shitload of bandwagon KSU fans, too.

KU has had more then one winning season, FWIW.


As a KSU fan, I am glad that the Cats are doing well, but please don't skew the facts of other teams.
Notorious I appreciate you seeming to be a good person, a level headed fair guy, and a K State fan but I was being objective and wasn't skewing any facts. You may need to check your facts bud. KU has had one winning Big 12 season under Mangino. It was 2007 and they went 7-1. Given that FACT I think it's fair to talk about him being on the hot seat and calling that season an aberration. Given their previous record before 2007 and then failing to have a winning conference record the subsequent year the 2007 season much like the Royals in 2003 would be the most appropriately defined as an aberration. That is a non-bias factual observation.
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[KC_Connection]

I'd say quit making yourself look like an asshole, but I know you can't help it.
Using logic equates to being an asshole now?

7 win (and even 6 win) teams in the Big 12 generally make bowl games...I didn't think that was too difficult to understand.

[KC_Connection]

Unfortunately for KU, this may be their last chance a being a good team for a few years. I don't see a ton of talent coming up in the most important position: QB.
They go back to having an easy schedule next year. They'll be alright for that reason most of all.

[KC_Connection]

Notorious I appreciate you seeming to be a good person, a level headed fair guy, and a K State fan but I was being objective and wasn't skewing any facts. You may need to check your facts bud. KU has had one winning Big 12 season under Mangino. It was 2007 and they went 7-1. Given that FACT I think it's fair to talk about him being on the hot seat and calling that season an aberration. Given their previous record before 2007 and then failing to have a winning conference record the subsequent year the 2007 season much like the Royals in 2003 would be the most appropriately defined as an aberration. That is a non-bias factual observation.
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Maybe you should look at what the KU program was like before Mangino came here.

[kstater]

Maybe you should look at what the KU program was like before Mangino came here.

At the bottom of the conference? How's that different than this year?

[eazyb81]

Chase didn't look this bad, and he still put up a 72% completion rate, 4,335 yards and 39 TDs, which is still amazing numbers. Reesing currently only has a 64% completion rate, only has 2,400 yds and 16 TDs. And his team will not win 10 games and the Big 12 North.

Agree, comparing Reesing's senior season so far to Daniel's senior season is laughable.

Daniel had more passing yards, more TDs, and a better completion rate his senior year than he did in his junior year, and he led his team to another Big 12 North title.

Meanwhile, Reesing is on pace to have less yards, a worst completion percentage, less TDs, and more INTs than last year, all while leading ku to a complete collapse of a season when they were predicted to win the North.

[ArrowheadHawk]

It may be time for Lew to bring in his own guy.
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[chiefqueen]

KU had 7 wins last year and easily got into a bowl game. Stop making yourself look stupid.

I believe the big 12 did not have enough teams gain bowl eligibility last year (thanks to K-State losing to Fresno State on the last weekend) so whether KU had 6 or 7 wins was moot as the Big XII could not fill all of its slots.

That appears not to be the case this year as the Big 12 has 10 teams with 5+ wins. The only rule about bowl selection is that no 6 win teams may be selected before all 7+ win teams have received bowl invites. My point is that there may be more Big 12 teams with 7+ wins than bowls with Big XII ties. (The bowls have contracts with confrences.)

I know the chances of this happening is small and for it to happen, certain games would have to break a certain way. (K-State for example would need to lose to Mizzou but beat Neb. Neb. would need to beat OU & Colo. but lose to K-State.

[GoHuge]

They go back to having an easy schedule next year. They'll be alright for that reason most of all.
Yeah I'm sure their 1-4 conference record is purely a product of their schedule. Less talent and a rookie QB next year......to the ship! Ah derr
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[KC_Connection]

At the bottom of the conference? How's that different than this year?
So you are suggesting they fire him 2 years after going to the Orange Bowl? Even though, their recruiting has gotten much better, and they've been winning more games than ever before. Do you have any idea how nonsensical that is?

[teedubya]

"History Awaits."

[KC_Connection]

Yeah I'm sure their 1-4 conference record is purely a product of their schedule. Less talent and a rookie QB next year......to the ship! Ah derr
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When you don't have to face OU and UT in the same season, the schedule gets easier, yeah. I didn't think that was too tough to understand.

[KC_Connection]

"History Awaits."
You jumping off the bandwagon too, eh?

[kstater]

So you are suggesting they fire him 2 years after going to the Orange Bowl? Even though, their recruiting has gotten much better, and they've been winning more games than ever before. Do you have any idea how nonsensical that is?

He's got 1 winning conference record in 8 attempts. That shouldn't be acceptable.

[kstater]

When you don't have to face OU and UT in the same season, the schedule gets easier, yeah. I didn't think that was too tough to understand.

They haven't even gotten to Texas yet. They couldn't beat Colorado, what makes you think they'll beat A&M and OSU?

[KC_Connection]

He's got 1 winning conference record in 8 attempts. That shouldn't be acceptable.
Umm...according to whose standards? This is a basketball school and it always will be a basketball school. There are no expectations for success of the football program. Nobody gives a shit.

[KC_Connection]

They haven't even gotten to Texas yet. They couldn't beat Colorado, what makes you think they'll beat A&M and OSU?
I never said they would. You keep trying to paint me as some kind of homer for some reason.

[notorious]

Nobody gives a shit.

I beg to differ. The last 3 times KU beat KSU every single KU fan on the planet made sure to let KSU fan know that it was important.


A few hours after dropping one to KSU, KU fan says they don't give a shit.


I am calling massive bullshit on this one.

[Bugeater]

Umm...according to whose standards? This is a basketball school and it always will be a basketball school. There are no expectations for success of the football program. Nobody gives a shit.
Oh give me a fucking break, you beakers couldn't keep your pieholes shut when you were having your dream season in 2007.

[notorious]

Oh give me a ****ing break, you beakers couldn't keep your pieholes shut when you were having your dream season in 2007.

It's human nature that any fan acts this way in this situation.


They were out of their element with a good football team, cared enough to talk shit when things were going right, but when the bottom falls out,"Who gives a shit, we are a basketball school."

LOL give us a fucking break.

[kstater]

Umm...according to whose standards? This is a basketball school and it always will be a basketball school. There are no expectations for success of the football program. Nobody gives a shit.

Aaaand there it is.

[kstater]

The way I see it, Nebraska is still a slight favorite to win the North. It'll come down to the game in Lincoln. But with a win next week, KSU becomes bowl eligible. That's the real goal.

[notorious]

The way I see it, Nebraska is still a slight favorite to win the North. It'll come down to the game in Lincoln. But with a win next week, KSU becomes bowl eligible. That's the real goal.

Would have never thought that before the season. Good to see, though.

[kstater]

Would have never thought that before the season. Good to see, though.

Still fully expect to lose both games. Have no expectations.

[notorious]

Still fully expect to lose both games. Have no expectations.

I would be lying if I said I don't have expectations

I expect them to show up and play hard, but I don't expect wins. Not yet anyway.


We have to remember that Snyder brought in two excellent Coordianators.

That is where successful football is achieved if you don't have 5 and 4 star recruits to work with.

[chiefqueen]

The way I see it, Nebraska is still a slight favorite to win the North. It'll come down to the game in Lincoln. But with a win next week, KSU becomes bowl eligible. That's the real goal.

KSU became bowl eligible today, beating Neb. gives them 7 wins.

[kstater]

KSU became bowl eligible today, beating Neb. gives them 7 wins.

No they didn't. They played two FCS teams. They are theoretically only 5-4.

[KC_Connection]

I beg to differ. The last 3 times KU beat KSU every single KU fan on the planet made sure to let KSU fan know that it was important.

That's called bandwagon jumping.


A few hours after dropping one to KSU, KU fan says they don't give a shit.
They've never given a shit. If people gave a shit, people would have been been filling up the stadiums before 2007. But they weren't. Now the KU football program will go back to the hole where it came from unless they give them something to cheer about next year. I don't expect a full crowd next week.

[KC_Connection]

Oh give me a ****ing break, you beakers couldn't keep your pieholes shut when you were having your dream season in 2007.
Are you suggesting that KU isn't a basketball school? Or that KU's football program has actual standards of success?

Which one?

[kstater]

That's called bandwagon jumping.


They've never given a shit. If people gave a shit, people would have been been filling up the stadiums before 2007. But they weren't. Now the KU football program will go back to the hole where it came from unless they give them something to cheer about next year. I don't expect a full crowd next week.

Completely agree. Which is why if the Big 12 gets 9 teams eligible, KU will be the odd team out. Especially after the stadium is 1/4 Nebraska fans next week.

[KC_Connection]

It's human nature that any fan acts this way in this situation.


They were out of their element with a good football team, cared enough to talk shit when things were going right, but when the bottom falls out,"Who gives a shit, we are a basketball school."

LOL give us a ****ing break.

I give a shit, you asshole. That's why I'm still here defending them. I'm just telling you the general sentiment about the football program in Lawrence. It hasn't changed.

[KC_Connection]

Completely agree. Which is why if the Big 12 gets 9 teams eligible, KU will be the odd team out. Especially after the stadium is 1/4 Nebraska fans next week.
And I'm saying...wait until 3 weeks from now and see what fucking happens. KU may not even get to 6 wins.

[WilliamTheIrish]

WARM. UP. THE. TRACTOR.

Good game, gents.

[KC_Connection]

Aaaand there it is.
You have yet to explain to me what rational reason there is to fire Mangino.

[kstater]

You have yet to explain to me what rational reason there is to fire Mangino.

Not being able to field a team capable of going .500 in league play?

[Tactical Funky]

I'm a hardcore KU football fan but still acknowledge the fact that KU is and always will be a basketball-first university, not only because of success, but heritage - which holds the most weight.

It's the opposite with a school like Texas, for example. Texas is and always will be a football-first school regardless of the success of their basketball program. Now that I think of it, a better comparison may be OU.

Either way, I'll continue to root equally hard for both the football and basketball teams. One may breed a lot more success, but hey, they're both KU so they both matter to me.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Also, if KU could do BIG Brother KSU a small solid and just go ahead and beat NU next week, I'd allow you to sit at my Thanksgiving table.

Thanks,

Will

[KC_Connection]

Not being able to field a team capable of going .500 in league play?
2 years after an Orange Bowl we're just going to fire the guy? Even though he's provided several winning seasons in a row and improved recruiting significantly from where it was when he got here? How is that not a fucked up idea?

[kstater]

Also, if KU could do BIG Brother KSU a small solid and just go ahead and beat NU next week, I'd allow you to sit at my Thanksgiving table.

Thanks,

Will

Was going to cross that bridge after the game next week. Just thinking the thought made me gag.

[KC_Connection]

I'm a hardcore KU football fan but still acknowledge the fact that KU is and always will be a basketball-first university, not only because of success, but heritage - which holds the most weight.

It's the opposite with a school like Texas, for example. Texas is and always will be a football-first school regardless of the success of their basketball program. Now that I think of it, a better comparison may be OU.

Either way, I'll continue to root equally hard for both the football and basketball teams. One may breed a lot more success, but hey, they're both KU so they both matter to me.

And what do you think about this ridiculous idea of firing Mangino?

[notorious]

I give a shit, you asshole. That's why I'm still here defending them. I'm just telling you the general sentiment about the football program in Lawrence. It hasn't changed.

I am sorry.


The way you stated it before made it appear as if YOU and fellow fans didn't give a shit. I wasn't the only one that read it that way, either.

Anyway, no offense.

[Saulbadguy]

ROFL

[Tactical Funky]

And what do you think about this ridiculous idea of firing Mangino?
I think that would a brash, illogical move. What's to say we'll come across another coach of Mangino's caliber/lineage at a historically mediocre program like Kansas?

Too risky. If anything, our assistant coaches could use some tweaking.

[KC_Connection]

I mean...I have no serious affinity for fatty Mangino...but seriously, who the hell is this school going to bring in that improves the program more than he has? We are talking KU football here.

[kstater]

I mean...I have no serious affinity for fatty Mangino...but seriously, who the hell is this school going to bring in that improves the program more than he has? We are talking KU football here.

As long as you're happy at the bottom of the conference, I don't care who the coach is.

[notorious]

KU keeps Magino. Period.


He has made them a competitive football program that has a few good years now and then.

As stated earlier, KU is a B-Ball school, if Magino can produce a .500 team that gets a bowl every once in a while, he will get a lot more years/cash to use at the buffet.

[KC_Connection]

As long as you're happy at the bottom of the conference, I don't care who the coach is.
You still haven't provided a rational argument for getting rid of the guy, not that I expect you to. You are just being an asshole.

To be honest, I'd be happy with a winning record every year and getting into a bowl game. This is a basketball school and it always be.

[Saulbadguy]

Just got home from Manhattan. Thoughts:

1. On the way there, there were 2 of those "1 Kansas farmer feeds 128 people plus YOU" signs. Both had a sign covering the "128 people..." part, which was replaced by "1 Hungry Mangino." HAH.

2. Glad to see the Topeka Jayhawk Club sign vandalized, yet again.

3. KU is back to their rightful place as a football program, in DEAD LAST. Happy to see Mizzou join them to the party as well.

4. Daniel Thomas deserves Big XII Offensive Player of the Year looks. He's playing injured, too.

5. Mack Brown will win Big XII COTY if Texas competes for the National championship, as he should. Bill Snyder should be included in the mix if not.

[Silock]

KU firing Mangino? Don't make me laugh. No way. Yes, this season is a disappointment, but there is still an outside hope for a bowl game. Sucks, because I was looking forward to this season.

Oh well. I'll still go to KU football games this season and root just as hard as I do for the B-ball team.

[kstater]

You still haven't provided a rational argument for getting rid of the guy, not that I expect you to. You are just being an asshole.

To be honest, I'd be happy with a winning record every year and getting into a bowl game. This is a basketball school and it always be.

I've actually provided a very rational argument, you just don't want to hear it. And you've proved it with your second paragraph in this quote.