ESPN- Chiefs may draft QB Clausen if he grades out better than Okung

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Clayton said that Cassel's deal essentially has one year left on it, he's due a 7.2 million bonus next year if on the roster. Weis is a factor of course, also the Chiefs don't wanna be shit out of luck if he sucks in 2010.

[The Franchise]

JIMP....except for the Okung part.

IF he grades out better than Okung? How the fuck could he not?

[alpha_omega]

He said that Cassel's deal essentially has one year left on it, he's due a 7.2 million bonus next year if on the roster. Weis is a factor of course, also the Chiefs don't wanna be shit out of luck if he sucks in 2010.

Who said?

[The Franchise]

Who said?

He said.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

My bad. John Clayton.

[Hammock Parties]

Wonder what the drafturbators think about this.

[Archie Bunker]

I am really starting to believe that this is going to happen if Clausen is there. Between Weis, Cassel's contract, and Cassel's performance it makes too much sense not to draft Clausen.

[Marco Polo]

No mention of Berry?! OMG!!!!!!111111!!!

[Jerm]

I'd be shocked if we took Clausen...just don't see it.

Guess I'd better start warming up to the idea. Can someone just convince me he's not Brady Quinn: The Sequel.
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[DeezNutz]

Oh, noez111

We're in danger of losing Okung.

[Hammock Parties]

I am really starting to believe that this is going to happen if Clausen is there. Between Weis, Cassel's contract, and Cassel's performance it makes too much sense not to draft Clausen.

Oh, I don't. More than anything this smells like a smokescreen. Make teams think you want Clausen so they take him before you, ensuring you get Berry.

[Fish]

Sign me up bitches......

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[nychief]

well, this has to be true... no way they disseminate false information before the draft.

[bowener]

I'd be shocked if we took Clausen...just don't see it.

Guess I'd better start warming up to the idea. Can someone just convince me he's not Brady Quinn: The Sequel.
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Quinn looks more muscular in his gay poses than Clausen...

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[Shag]

Here's hoping...

[bowener]

Oh, I don't. More than anything this smells like a smokescreen. Make teams think you want Clausen so they take him before you, ensuring you get Berry.

Or a way to trade down???

[Demonpenz]

Clausen might put the chiefs in a real pickle

[MVChiefFan]

Quinn looks more muscular in his gay poses than Clausen...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2160788802_67ff4fb6f4.jpg

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

Oh no...:shake:

[Otter]

Wow, after the 15 mini strokes I gave myself in the 90's the Chiefs may finally draft and develop a QB.

I'll believe it when I see it.

[Reaper16]

well, this has to be true... no way they disseminate false information before the draft.
But everyone expects such information to be false information, so this could be real information made to look like false information.

"I'm playing a much cleverer game than that. I'm a fake hawk."
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[RealSNR]

Quinn looks more muscular in his gay poses than Clausen...

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2313/2160788802_67ff4fb6f4.jpg

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpgHere's my thing- who's the last pretty-boy QB to win a Super Bowl?

Peyton Manning doesn't count. That guy's uglier than a Bruce Vilanche turd at a Polish restaurant

[Dayze]

"if he grades out better than Okung"

so, there's KC's excuse for not drafting him.

"Well, obviously, both Clausen and Okung are tremendous athletes who could help this organization. However, we had Okung graded out a bit hihger because he gives us the ability to address a position of need, and allows us to become an immediate contributor and part of the right-53" / Pioli

[tyler360]

I am gonna cry if they draft Okung over many prospects. Not just Clausen.

[WildTurkey]

Here's my thing- who's the last pretty-boy QB to win a Super Bowl?

Peyton Manning doesn't count. That guy's uglier than a Bruce Vilanche turd at a Polish restaurant

Tom Brady

[SDChiefs]

This makes me kinda happy in pants.

EDIT: I put that before I saw the Queer Eye pic. Me not so happy in pants anymore.

[WildTurkey]

I am gonna cry if they draft Okung over many prospects. Not just Clausen.

I just don't buy into Pioli being interested in Okung in the first place....

[58kcfan89]

I know a lot of you guys hate Cassel and this probably won't be a popular opinion, but whatever. With a team that's as bad as ours, shouldn't we put some talent around Cassel and Albert and see if they look any better rather than saying that they suck and will always suck after one bad year with new coaches & bad players around them? That said, it's still 2 months before the draft and who knows where Clausen or Okung's draft stock are by then.

Maybe it's because I still have faith in Cassel & Albert and think we have a lot more pressing needs... But I guess if Pioli & Co. think we need a new QB and/or LT, I don't have a choice but to trust him and bitch about it.

[Hammock Parties]

I know a lot of you guys hate Cassel and this probably won't be a popular opinion, but whatever. With a team that's as bad as ours, shouldn't we put some talent around Cassel and Albert and see if they look any better rather than saying that they suck and will always suck after one bad year with new coaches & bad players around them? That said, it's still 2 months before the draft and who knows where Clausen or Okung's draft stock are by then.

Maybe it's because I still have faith in Cassel & Albert and think we have a lot more pressing needs... But I guess if Pioli & Co. think we need a new QB and/or LT, I don't have a choice but to trust him and bitch about it.

Nothing wrong with taking a potential franchise QB when you don't have one.

[Priest31kc]

I know a lot of you guys hate Cassel and this probably won't be a popular opinion, but whatever. With a team that's as bad as ours, shouldn't we put some talent around Cassel and Albert and see if they look any better rather than saying that they suck and will always suck after one bad year with new coaches & bad players around them? That said, it's still 2 months before the draft and who knows where Clausen or Okung's draft stock are by then.

Maybe it's because I still have faith in Cassel & Albert and think we have a lot more pressing needs... But I guess if Pioli & Co. think we need a new QB and/or LT, I don't have a choice but to trust him and bitch about it.

Agreed. And I dont want Claussen, I think hes gunna bust in the NFL. I would be pissed.

[King_Chief_Fan]

He said. she said

[BigRedChief]

well, this has to be true... no way they disseminate false information before the draft.I'll have something out on this tonight. Been sitting on it for a few days, now its out there on espn I'll send it out. Not the same thing but same subject.

[Brock]

Really! This is astonishing!

[Mr. Laz]

I know a lot of you guys hate Cassel and this probably won't be a popular opinion, but whatever. With a team that's as bad as ours, shouldn't we put some talent around Cassel and Albert and see if they look any better rather than saying that they suck and will always suck after one bad year with new coaches & bad players around them? That said, it's still 2 months before the draft and who knows where Clausen or Okung's draft stock are by then.

Maybe it's because I still have faith in Cassel & Albert and think we have a lot more pressing needs... But I guess if Pioli & Co. think we need a new QB and/or LT, I don't have a choice but to trust him and bitch about it.
i understand your position and i'm not ready to give on them ... especially Cassel. The QB position is highly dependent on the talent surrounding them.

that said ... Albert getting abused off the 1st step and Cassel's accuracy issues are very disappointing.

if the Chiefs go LT or QB i will understand why.

I still don't see it with Okung though, i don't see why people think he's a franchise LT at all.

[The Franchise]

I'll have something out on this tonight. Been sitting on it for a few days, now its out there on espn I'll send it out.

Dude....have you sent out any e-mails at all? I haven't received any from you.

[WildTurkey]

i understand your position and i'm not ready to give on them ... especially Cassel. The QB position is highly dependent on the talent surrounding them.

that said ... Albert getting abused off the 1st step and Cassel's accuracy issues are very disappointing.

if the Chiefs go LT or QB i will understand why.

I still don't see it with Okung though, i don't see why people think he's a franchise LT at all.

This..... personally I think it's going to come down to Clausen, Berry, Or McClain... I really don't believe Okung is in the mix...

[Mr. Laz]

Dude....have you sent out any e-mails at all? I haven't received any from you.
i've gotten 3 PBJ


maybe BRC thinks your breath smells like ass

[BigRedChief]

Dude....have you sent out any e-mails at all? I haven't received any from you.Sent out 4 now or maybe 5. send me another email to bigredcheif@yahoo.com

[The Franchise]

Sent out 4 now or maybe 5. send me another email to bigredcheif@yahoo.com

Is it intentionally misspelled that way? or is it supposed to be bigredchief@yahoo.com

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

I just don't believe Pioli / Haley will spend a first rd #5 on anybody to sit on the bench.

[BigRedChief]

Is it intentionally misspelled that way? or is it supposed to be bigredchief@yahoo.comyou are correct. just a typo in the previous post.

[The Franchise]

you are correct. just a typo in the previous post.

E-mail sent.

[Mr. Laz]

I just don't believe Pioli / Haley will spend a first rd #5 on anybody to sit on the bench.
for every position other than Quarterback, i would agree.

[morphius]

Sent out 4 now or maybe 5. send me another email to bigredcheif@yahoo.com
Yup, I haven't had anything since the first one either. Ugh!

Look for another email from me as well...

[Mr. Arrowhead]

as long as it clausen, i think hes going be legit, Bradford has bust written all over him.

[Fritz88]

fuck this does sound good

[BigRedChief]

Yup, I haven't had anything since the first one either. Ugh!

Look for another email from me as well...
I'm just keeping the email list in the yahoo account but sending it out through the kcchiefgames.com account.

That way I can just copy and paste a current list into the email.

Let me know the last email you got and I'll catch you up

[BigRedChief]

as long as it clausen, i think hes going be legit, Bradford has bust written all over him.Weiss loves him some Claussen.

[-King-]

Weiss loves him some Claussen.

In your next post, please say that he hates him some Okung
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[the Talking Can]

halley fucking lula






weis would be the greatest non-marty coaching hire in franchise history based on this event alone

[BigRedChief]

In your next post, please say that he hates him some Okung
Posted via Mobile Devicesorry heard nothing about Okung. But, I'm pretty sure Weiss has said publically that he thinks Claussen is the real deal and telling all the NFL clubs that ask that, saw something on ESPN or somewhere like that....not inside info at all. Understandable, he recruited him, coached him.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I still believe in Cassel, but I would not pass this up, IMO. Because it's true, if Cassel sucks, we are f'ed sideways, and this franchise is behind another 2 to 3 years. I say do it.

[Tribal Warfare]

I'll have something out on this tonight. Been sitting on it for a few days, now its out there on espn I'll send it out. Not the same thing but same subject.

please be good concerning Clausen as a possible successor

[Mr. Flopnuts]

halley fucking lula






weis would be the greatest non-marty coaching hire in franchise history based on this event alone

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[Titty Meat]

John Clayton just said Jimmy Clausen looks forward to worshiping howard Stearns prostate.

[Mr. Laz]

somewhere Coogs is masturbating furiously to the very thought of possible getting Clausen.

LMAO

[the Talking Can]

you are correct. just a typo in the previous post.

ok, i give in..email coming

[Mr. Laz]

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Johnny Cash lives!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mr. Laz]

ok, i give in..email coming
don't bother you ungrateful bastard


no appreciation = no special emails :)

[Titty Meat]

whens the next email from "the source"?

[Icon]

I don't buy for a second that Clayton or anyone else, including Mrs. Pioli, knows what Scott is thinking at this point in time. Charlie Weiss may really like Clausen but there's no way he's sharing any information with the press. Clayton is speculating, that's all. If he does have inside info it was deliberately leaked as a smoke screen but I doubt that since its two months to the draft. If not, well somebody will be "sleeping with the fishes" when Pioli smokes out the leaker.

[BossChief]

Didnt Weis say at the senior bowl that he and Haley are scouting the offensive skill position players and Muir was scouting the line?

Im trying not to get my hopes up, but maaaaaan, wouldn't it be the most exciting draft pick in the history of this franchise if we selected Clausen?

[DaneMcCloud]

Oh, noez111

We're in danger of losing Okung.

LMAO

I would fully back the Clausen pick.

[Pants]

LMAO

I would fully back the Clausen pick.

Oh ok, good. That's what Pioli was waiting for. We have the green light.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

LMAO

I would fully back the Clausen pick.

OK. If Dane supports the pick I'm in too !

[Tribal Warfare]

Didnt Weis say at the senior bowl that he and Haley are scouting the offensive skill position players and Muir was scouting the line?

Im trying not to get my hopes up, but maaaaaan, wouldn't it be the most exciting draft pick in the history of this franchise if we selected Clausen?

It would rival the total elation of the Derrick Johnson pick during draft day. People on the board were figuratively flipping over cars out of celebration on the BB.

[Mr. Laz]

If Cassel hasn't stuggled with his accuracy last year i wouldn't say there was any chance for clausen

If the Chiefs hadn't hire Weis as OC i wouldn't say there was any chance for clausen

If there wasn't a roster bonus/contract out for cassel coming up i wouldn't say there was any chance for clausen


but all of these things happened so ................

[Mr. Arrowhead]

the last BRC email i got was on feb. 15, is that the same for everyone else? just making sure im not missing out.

[BigCatDaddy]

I prefer Bradford if there, but I'm all for finally pulling the trigger on a 1st round QB.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

I prefer Bradford if there, but I'm all for finally pulling the trigger on a 1st round QB.

Might as well see if Josh Heubel want to come play for a bag of chips.

[Archie Bunker]

the last BRC email i got was on feb. 15, is that the same for everyone else? just making sure im not missing out.

That's my last one as well.

[chiefscafan]

Yep mr arrowhead that's the last one I got as well

[BigCatDaddy]

Might as well see if Josh Heubel want to come play for a bag of chips.

Right, because they have so much in common outside of playing for OU (facepalm).

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Right, because they have so much in common outside of playing for OU (facepalm).

lol Bradford isn't gonna amount to shit in the NFL. But we'll see.

[BigCatDaddy]

lol Bradford isn't gonna amount to shit in the NFL. But we'll see.

He'll be gone before #5 so we will have to watch from a distance anyways.

[DeezNutz]

John Clayton just said Jimmy Clausen looks forward to worshiping howard Stearns prostate.

Did Westbrook agree?

[wazimo]

What if Denver offered their 2nd rounder for Cassell and Clausen is available at #5. I am actually in the 'Draft Erik Berry Camp' but that would be interesting.

[Easy 6]

Just Do It.

[Mr. Laz]

He'll be gone before #5 so we will have to watch from a distance anyways.
i hope to hell Bradford goes before 5

that improves our chances of getting someone really good. :)

[DeezNutz]

What if Denver offered their 2nd rounder for Cassell and Clausen is available at #5. I am actually in the 'Draft Erik Berry Camp' but that would be interesting.

Done. But only if they'll take Cassel.

Not sure why you're saying, "What if," though, since everyone who wants Clausen wants him regardless of whether or not Thigpen is here or not.

[wazimo]

...however, I would like Terrance Cody, Sergio Kindle and M.Puncey in the 2nd round.

[Mr. Laz]

What if Denver offered their 2nd rounder for Cassell and Clausen is available at #5. I am actually in the 'Draft Erik Berry Camp' but that would be interesting.absolutely do that imo

[Thig Lyfe]

I'd prefer Berry, but the Weiss connection makes Clausen a pretty exciting possibility.

[OnTheWarpath15]

What if Denver offered their 2nd rounder for Cassell and Clausen is available at #5. I am actually in the 'Draft Erik Berry Camp' but that would be interesting.

Step 1: Jizz in pants.

Step 2: Make deal.

Step 3: ?

Step 4: Profit.

[DeezNutz]

Step 1: Jizz in pants.

Step 2: Make deal.

Step 3: ?

Step 4: Profit.

LMAO.

Just about.

[chiefscafan]

Aw big red u have some juicy info?

[Fish]

Berry would be a great pick, but I see Jimmy's potential to turn this franchise around a lot higher than Berry's. Simply because of the positions they play.

Right now if you had your choice but could only choose one, would you pick Manning/Brady or Reed/Polamalu?

Franchise QB can take you further than the franchise FS.

Do it Peehole!! To the ship!

[BossChief]

NOTE TO PIOLI:

NOW'S OUR CHANCE!!!!

[DaWolf]

Smokescreen...

[Tribal Warfare]

Smokescreen...

we'll see what BRC's report says

[DeezNutz]

NOTE TO PIOLI:

NOW'S OUR CHANCE!!!!

Love,
2009.

[RustShack]

Good, our offense needs a QB with pocket awareness so we don't give up so many sacks and someone who can throw a catchable ball to the receivers. Clausen makes way to much sense. One player who can single handedly make the offense better.

[BigRedChief]

whens the next email from "the source"?Just sent one out last week.

[Titty Meat]

Just sent one out last week.


I know. I thought it was a weekly email.

[RustShack]

I know. I thought it was a weekly email.

Its a whenever some big news comes out email... but a make shit up like WPI email.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Damn, he's got an arm , thats for sure ! That one pass was 70 fucking yards in the air!


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[BossChief]

Love,
2009.

I would much rather draft Clausen this year than Sanchez last year.

flame away

[HemiEd]

It would rival the total elation of the Derrick Johnson pick during draft day. People on the board were figuratively flipping over cars out of celebration on the BB.

Very true

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Alright, I just haven't seen enough of Clausen. Now that I've been watching some video on the guy I'm confident he's going to Washington at 4. Sorry.

Great touch. Great accuracy. Mike Shanahan knows QB's and this kid is the real deal. Forget about it. Mike's gonna fuck us one more time for good measure.

[DeezNutz]

I would much rather draft Clausen this year than Sanchez last year.

flame away

I'm not going to necessarily argue that position; it's a valid one.

But we're once again facing the potential to draft a franchise-caliber QB. Last year the opportunity WAS there. We're HOPING to have it again (meaningful game in Denver FTMFW).

And I'm sure Pioli will piss down his leg (again).

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Clausen in the 1st and Golden Tate in the 2nd

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I would much rather draft Clausen this year than Sanchez last year.

flame away

Why? Basically we wasted a 2nd round draft pick and a whole lot of money to do it this way. What makes you so sure Clausen will be better than Sanchez? The reason I ask is because everyone pretty much conceded that Sanchez was going to be a little bit of a project coming out so young. I think he did very well last year and is only going to grow from here.

That said, I'd love it if we got Clausen. I'd love Locker next year. But at this point just give me anyone but Matt Cassel.

[Hammock Parties]

Why? Basically we wasted a 2nd round draft pick and a whole lot of money to do it this way. What makes you so sure Clausen will be better than Sanchez? The reason I ask is because everyone pretty much conceded that Sanchez was going to be a little bit of a project coming out so young. I think he did very well last year and is only going to grow from here.

That said, I'd love it if we got Clausen. I'd love Locker next year. But at this point just give me anyone but Matt Cassel.

Clausen has a better arm....I haven't watch him that much but he appears to be a tad more nimble, too. And slightly bigger.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Clausen has a better arm....I haven't watch him that much but he appears to be a tad more nimble, too. And slightly bigger.

I'll say this much, I love his accuracy. It's rare AFAIC. I would absolutely love to get this guy, but I think Shanahan is going to snatch him right up.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Clausen has a better arm....I haven't watch him that much but he appears to be a tad more nimble, too. And slightly bigger.


I put a Highlight video in post 95. Dudes got it together. Way better than Sanchez.

[DeezNutz]

I'll say this much, I love his accuracy. It's rare AFAIC. I would absolutely love to get this guy, but I think Shanahan is going to snatch him right up.

Hope the Rat sees some potential in Campbell, which isn't out of the realm of possibility. He's not complete shit. Not like we're talking about a Cassel-level QB or something.

[pkane]

Looks like Golden Tate bailed him out on a lot of those passes. Nice highlight package, more for Tate than Clausen.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Hope the Rat sees some potential in Campbell, which isn't out of the realm of possibility. He's not complete shit. Not like we're talking about a Cassel-level QB or something.

You remember how fast he dropped Plumber for Jay Cutler? Clausen > Cutler, so I don't see how it's even a possibility. Here's to hope though. :toast:

If by remote chance he was there, Weis may have enough trust from those guys for them to pull that trigger.

[Goldmember]

Sent out 4 now or maybe 5. send me another email to bigredcheif@yahoo.com

Is "cheif" in your email addy intentional or did you mispell it?

[BossChief]

Why? Basically we wasted a 2nd round draft pick and a whole lot of money to do it this way. What makes you so sure Clausen will be better than Sanchez? The reason I ask is because everyone pretty much conceded that Sanchez was going to be a little bit of a project coming out so young. I think he did very well last year and is only going to grow from here.

That said, I'd love it if we got Clausen. I'd love Locker next year. But at this point just give me anyone but Matt Cassel.
I think that Sanchez and Clausen will be comparable NFL QBs in a couple years. Clausen just has far less risk involved in his selection to me. Charlie Weis knows QBs and he brought in Clausen and invested 3 years into his progression. He ran a offense at ND that is similar to what might be expected for us to run next year, so that should allow Clausen to pick it up quickly and have a great chance transitioning to the NFL successsfully with the staff we have in place. If we selected Clausen, we have the QB position sewn up for the foreseable future with a top guy.

Sign Clausen and dont start him immediately and draft Tate in the second and then hopefully have a shot at Michael Floyd next year!

I should get back to reality though and keep focused on us drafting McClian so I dont get disapointed...

[The Franchise]

Looks like Golden Tate bailed him out on a lot of those passes. Nice highlight package, more for Tate than Clausen.

:spock: :facepalm: STFU

[The Franchise]

Honestly....I'm a HUGE Berry fan. But give me Clausen this year and Michael Floyd next year.....and I'll JIMP.

[MahiMike]

I know a lot of you guys hate Cassel and this probably won't be a popular opinion, but whatever. With a team that's as bad as ours, shouldn't we put some talent around Cassel and Albert and see if they look any better rather than saying that they suck and will always suck after one bad year with new coaches & bad players around them? That said, it's still 2 months before the draft and who knows where Clausen or Okung's draft stock are by then.

Maybe it's because I still have faith in Cassel & Albert and think we have a lot more pressing needs... But I guess if Pioli & Co. think we need a new QB and/or LT, I don't have a choice but to trust him and bitch about it.

I agree. But for some reason, lotsa guys here think you have to DRAFT a QB in order to win a SB. I say just get the best guy no matter what. Odds of drafting a Superbowl QB is about as good as playing powerball.

[chiefzilla1501]

I think that Sanchez and Clausen will be comparable NFL QBs in a couple years. Clausen just has far less risk involved in his selection to me. Charlie Weis knows QBs and he brought in Clausen and invested 3 years into his progression. He ran a offense at ND that is similar to what might be expected for us to run next year, so that should allow Clausen to pick it up quickly and have a great chance transitioning to the NFL successsfully with the staff we have in place. If we selected Clausen, we have the QB position sewn up for the foreseable future with a top guy.

Sign Clausen and dont start him immediately and draft Tate in the second and then hopefully have a shot at Michael Floyd next year!

I should get back to reality though and keep focused on us drafting McClian so I dont get disapointed...

I like Clausen a hell of a lot more than I like Sanchez. Still do. I wouldn't be upset if the Chiefs drafted Clausen. I'd much rather Clausen than Okung.

[Saccopoo]

Wonder what the drafturbators think about this.

:whackit:

[chiefzilla1501]

Why? Basically we wasted a 2nd round draft pick and a whole lot of money to do it this way. What makes you so sure Clausen will be better than Sanchez? The reason I ask is because everyone pretty much conceded that Sanchez was going to be a little bit of a project coming out so young. I think he did very well last year and is only going to grow from here.

That said, I'd love it if we got Clausen. I'd love Locker next year. But at this point just give me anyone but Matt Cassel.

There were a lot of things I didn't like about Sanchez that I still don't like today. I think he holds on to the ball way too long. I think he came out very inexperienced. I think he holds on to the ball like a loaf of bread. And I'm still not convinced that he can win in Buffalo-like conditions--he really lucked out that the weather was actually manageable most of the season.

Claussen, in terms of pure polish, is about as flawless as you'll find. He doesn't have the pure arm strength as Stafford and he's not mobile at all. don't know if he has nearly the same kind of fire as Sanchez. But technically/fundamentally speaking, he's about as NFL-ready as they get.

[Mecca]

Kiper was talking this rumor the other day that the Chiefs would take Clausen if he was there and trade Cassel to Denver.

I don't think it'll happen personally.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

JIMP, just got BRC's and the Clausen info E-mail


AND !

[Saccopoo]

It's a smoke screen to try and entice teams to trade up a few notches. They pick up a second, move down four or five spots and pick the guy that they really want:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/cfb.top.10.big.10.players/images/bryan-bulaga.jpg

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Kiper was talking this rumor the other day that the Chiefs would take Clausen if he was there and trade Cassel to Denver.

I don't think it'll happen personally.

Brandon Marshall.


That's a good pipe dream for the day. Although I'm not sure Marshall would get along with Todd Haley.

[The Franchise]

There were a lot of things I didn't like about Sanchez that I still don't like today. I think he holds on to the ball way too long. I think he came out very inexperienced. I think he holds on to the ball like a loaf of bread. And I'm still not convinced that he can win in Buffalo-like conditions--he really lucked out that the weather was actually manageable most of the season.

Claussen, in terms of pure polish, is about as flawless as you'll find. He doesn't have the pure arm strength as Stafford and he's not mobile at all. don't know if he has nearly the same kind of fire as Sanchez. But technically/fundamentally speaking, he's about as NFL-ready as they get.

Dude....he's not Michael Vick...but he's not Drew Bledsoe either.

[The Franchise]

It's a smoke screen to try and entice teams to trade up a few notches. They pick up a second, move down four or five spots and pick the guy that I really want:

http://i.cdn.turner.com/si/multimedia/photo_gallery/0908/cfb.top.10.big.10.players/images/bryan-bulaga.jpg

FYP

[The Franchise]

Brandon Marshall.


That's a good pipe dream for the day. Although I'm not sure Marshall would get along with Todd Haley.

Honestly.....just give me the 2nd round pick instead of Marshall. I like Marshall's talent....just not his off the field problems.

[Mecca]

Brandon Marshall.


That's a good pipe dream for the day. Although I'm not sure Marshall would get along with Todd Haley.

Kiper was saying for a 2, I guess that evens out if they trade Marshall for a 2.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Honestly.....just give me the 2nd round pick instead of Marshall. I like Marshall's talent....just not his off the field problems.

I don't disagree at all. I'd take anything for Matt Cassel though. All the way down to the toy in a Cracker Jacks box.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Kiper was saying for a 2, I guess that evens out if they trade Marshall for a 2.

LMAO Could you imagine us unleashing that contract onto Denver and recopping our pick out of it?

Holy fuck, I just JIMP thinking about it.

[Mecca]

I personally think it's fun to think about but I don't see any way Pioli is giving up on his guy this early.

[The Franchise]

I don't disagree at all. I'd take anything for Matt Cassel though. All the way down to the toy in a Cracker Jacks box.

Dude....give me a conditional 3rd round pick....with the possibility of topping out at a 2nd....and I'm fucking ecstatic.

[The Franchise]

I personally think it's fun to think about but I don't see any way Pioli is giving up on his guy this early.

I would side with you.....but honestly there are a couple of things that are lining up right now.

1. Cassel has no one to push him.
2. Cassel's deal is front loaded and he's due a $7 million dollar roster bonus next season.
3. Weis is the new offensive coordinator and has worked with Clausen for a while now.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

I personally think it's fun to think about but I don't see any way Pioli is giving up on his guy this early.

I don't know. I would've agreed with you until he hired Charlie Weis. I think Chuckles has some weight with Pioli. I could see it happening.

[ModSocks]

I personally think it's fun to think about but I don't see any way Pioli is giving up on his guy this early.

I do. Pioli doesn't seem like the type to linger on bad moves. Drafting Clausen and trading Cassel to Denver is a wet dream. Not likely.....but damn, talk about a good way to get Chiefs fans excited again.....would sell tickets and jerseys, that's for sure.

[Mecca]

All I'm going to say is it's probably not good to get worked up about this, Pioli's history says he'll take the safe guy.

[The Franchise]

All I'm going to say is it's probably not good to get worked up about this, Pioli's history says he'll take the safe guy.

I understand what you're saying. I'm not holding out hope that we'll draft Berry or Clausen. I'll be fucking excited if they do....but I'm not going to bank on it.

[The Franchise]

So does Cleveland want to move up for Berry.....or Haden? Shit....possibly Spiller.

[milkman]

i understand your position and i'm not ready to give on them ... especially Cassel. The QB position is highly dependent on the talent surrounding them.

that said ... Albert getting abused off the 1st step and Cassel's accuracy issues are very disappointing.

if the Chiefs go LT or QB i will understand why.

I still don't see it with Okung though, i don't see why people think he's a franchise LT at all.

So you are more ready to give up a guy with superior athleticism, who has worked and played his position for two years, who has undergone more changes physically, technically, and schematically than anyone on the team in the last year than a guy who has worked and prcticed at his position all his life?

[DaKCMan AP]

Agreed. And I dont want Claussen, I think hes gunna bust in the NFL. I would be pissed.

What you think is irrelevant.

[BigRedChief]

Here's his reportuhhhh the point was not to have my name publically attached to the info.:facepalm:

[BossChief]

If we could trade Matt Cassel AND a 4th/5th for Brandon Marshall, I would the whole thing.

[Tribal Warfare]

uhhhh the point was not to have my name publically attached to the info.:facepalm:

changed

[OnTheWarpath15]

Here's his report

uhhhh the point was not to have my name publically attached to the info.:facepalm:

ROFL

[BigRedChief]

So does Cleveland want to move up for Berry.....or Haden? Shit....possibly Spiller.maybe nothing. Maybe just BS thats leaked for some unknown purpose. It runs rampant this time of the year. Maybe so if a team really wants Claussen they will offer the Chiefs a sweetheart deal to move out of #5?

[Saccopoo]

Either that, or they believe like a lot of people, that the Redskins are thinking of going offensive tackle, and they are trying to entice them into picking Clausen so their main draft target is still available:

http://www.draftboardinsider.com/images/2010/Okung_Russell.jpg

Besides, the only way Clausen grades out higher than Okung is if it's a Greek thong contest.

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

[BigRedChief]

ROFLyou buy em books, get em videos, pay for training and what happens?:doh!:

[The Franchise]

Posting the same picture of Clausen in a speedo....only makes you look ghey.

[Mr. Laz]

But at this point just give me anyone but Matt Cassel.
this is just beyond stupid

[Mecca]

Sacc has an obsession with fat guys, it's starting to become disturbing.

[Mecca]

this is just beyond stupid

If you'd like to continue to ride it out with a QB scrub, by all means.

[DaKCMan AP]

Posting the same picture of Clausen in a speedo....only makes you look ghey.

He is extremely gay.. for Okung. NTTAWWT (the gay part, not the Okung part).

[BigRedChief]

Sacc has an obsession with fat guys, it's starting to become disturbing.so do i need to be worried about a stalker?

[tyler360]

It seems to good to be true that the chiefs are actually thinking about drafting a Franchise QB. I cant wrap my head around it.

[BossChief]

this is just beyond stupid

why is it even a little stupid?

What the fuck did Cassel display at any point that makes you think he could lead us to a superbowl win?

I saw NOTHING

[Mecca]

It seems to good to be true that the chiefs are actually thinking about drafting a Franchise QB. I cant wrap my head around it.

I have a really hard time buying it, the way this organization has treated Cassel it would be a complete and total 180 on everything.

[BossChief]

I have a really hard time buying it, the way this organization has treated Cassel it would be a complete and total 180 on everything.
I wonder how the Patriots treated Drew Bledsoe after he signed a 100 million dollar contract and was shipped out the very next year?

I know the circumstances are different, but in many ways they are similar.

[the Talking Can]

Damn, he's got an arm , thats for sure ! That one pass was 70 ****ing yards in the air!


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pros:

played under center
throws well on the run
fairly quick release
highly accurate
played through injury
played in a lot of close games

cons:

doesn't appear to have a lot of zip on the ball
puts a lot of air on deep balls (but they're accurate)
rumored to a be a bit of a d-bag
played in a lot of close games


while i'm not as excited about him as i was stafford, i still pray we take him...he has most of what you look for in predicting pro success...experience, accuracy, snaps under center/pro-style offense

it would be ideal for him to sit for a year....or most of a year

[Mr. Laz]

So you are more ready to give up a guy with superior athleticism, who has worked and played his position for two years, who has undergone more changes physically, technically, and schematically than anyone on the team in the last year than a guy who has worked and prcticed at his position all his life?as usual, your comprehensive is the equivalent of a 3-year old.

a QB is more heavily dependent on the talent around him to succeed than a LT.

1. if OC calls a shit game is reflects heavily on the QB and he looks bad
2. if the Oline blocks bad it makes the QB look like shit
3. if you don't have a running game it makes the QB's job harder
4. if the WR's don't run their routes at the right depth, make the right reads or drop passes it makes the QB look terrible

pretty much every weakness of an offense leads to the QB looking like shit.

now an unbalanced offense and play calling effects the performance of the Olineman too but if a LT gets his ass handed to him by a DE then it's pretty much JUST A LT FAILURE.

therefore ... a bad performance by an LT is more informative than a bad performance by a QB who can have so many other variables effecting him.


it's too early to give up on either but last year's performance by Albert is more damming than Cassel's.

[Mecca]

I wonder how the Patriots treated Drew Bledsoe after he signed a 100 million dollar contract and was shipped out the very next year?

I know the circumstances are different, but in many ways they are similar.

That was different though, they felt like Brady was just as good and younger and cheaper etc etc, here we're talking about drafting a guy not even a year after every single week every excuse imaginable was made on how things weren't his fault.

[OnTheWarpath15]

pros:

played under center
throws well on the run
fairly quick release
highly accurate
played through injury
played in a lot of close games

cons:

doesn't appear to have a lot of zip on the ball
puts a lot of air on deep balls (but they're accurate)
rumored to a be a bit of a d-bag
played in a lot of close games


while i'm not as excited about him as i was stafford, i still pray we take him...he has most of what you look for in predicting pro success...experience, accuracy, snaps under center/pro-style offense

it would be ideal for him to sit for a year....or most of a year

Having seen him play twice in person in South Bend - from damn good seats, I can say he has plenty of zip on the ball. He doesn't have a Cutler-like cannon, but I think it's comparable to guys like Ryan and Sanchez. Definitely enough to make all the throws - his arm is above average, IMO.

And I agree, I'd prefer to take him and sit him for at least 8 games, if not the entire year.

[Mr. Laz]

pros:

played under center
throws well on the run
fairly quick release
highly accurate
played through injury
played in a lot of close games

cons:

doesn't appear to have a lot of zip on the ball
puts a lot of air on deep balls (but they're accurate)
rumored to a be a bit of a d-bag
played in a lot of close games


while i'm not as excited about him as i was stafford, i still pray we take him...he has most of what you look for in predicting pro success...experience, accuracy, snaps under center/pro-style offense

it would be ideal for him to sit for a year....or most of a year
is cassel's contract bonus due before next year(2010) or before the following year(2011)?

[Mecca]

According to Laz every QB drafted by a bad team should fail because they have nothing to work with, typical true fan mantra there.

[The Franchise]

Having seen him play twice in person in South Bend - from damn good seats, I can say he has plenty of zip on the ball.

And I agree, I'd prefer to take him and sit him for at least 8 games, if not the entire year.

Dude....you have tickets to Notre Dame games and you didn't fucking tell me?!?!??!! :cuss::cuss:

[Saccopoo]

I have a really hard time buying it, the way this organization has treated Cassel it would be a complete and total 180 on everything.

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. Fuck. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

[Mecca]

Clausens one knock is that he's a little short, the attitude thing I don't care about, plenty of top flight QB's are douches.

[Mecca]

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. Fuck. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

I despised Brodie Croyle and would have never drafted him, it's not about just drafting a QB.

[chiefzilla1501]

That was different though, they felt like Brady was just as good and younger and cheaper etc etc, here we're talking about drafting a guy not even a year after every single week every excuse imaginable was made on how things weren't his fault.

How many Pats period would you say they held on to way longer than their prime? They traded UP to get Chad Jackson--that didn't stop them from cutting his ass pretty quickly.

Pioli's history is that he listens to his coaches. If Weis doesn't want Cassel and really wants Clausen, there's a very good chance he'll listen to him.

[DaKCMan AP]

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. ****. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

Your and idiot x 1,000,000.

[Mecca]

Chad Jackson was a 2nd round pick that blew out his knee, the guy never played, not remotely the same.

Look how long they've hung into high pick underachievers like Ben Watson and Laurence Maroney.

[chiefzilla1501]

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. ****. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

Um... dude, #1, Clausen doesn't have a noodle arm.

#2, comparing Clausen, an NFL-ready QB, to Russell, a guy who moved up a million spots because he had an amazing combine is like comparing apples to oranges.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. Fuck. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

I'll give you this much saccopoo, you're the smartest retard I've ever encountered.

[WildTurkey]

Um... dude, #1, Clausen doesn't have a noodle arm.

#2, comparing Clausen, an NFL-ready QB, to Russell, a guy who moved up a million spots because he had an amazing combine is like comparing apples to oranges.

it's not ok to want to draft a QB unless you have 5 first round O-lineman in front of him right?

[The Franchise]

I'll give you this much saccopoo, you're the smartest retard I've ever encountered.

Dude....Corky has more football knowledge than Saccopoo does.

[Mr. Laz]

How many Pats period would you say they held on to way longer than their prime? They traded UP to get Chad Jackson--that didn't stop them from cutting his ass pretty quickly.

Pioli's history is that he listens to his coaches. If Weis and Haley don't want Cassel and really wants Clausen, there's a very good chance he'll listen to them.
FYP

[OnTheWarpath15]

Dude....you have tickets to Notre Dame games and you didn't fucking tell me?!?!??!! :cuss::cuss:

I've had a few connections over the years.

My wife used to work for Munir Prince's dad, so we went a few times before he transfered to Mizzou, and a buddy of mine works for an eye doctor who's an alum who gives us tickets to a game or two every year.

I've probably been to 6 games or so since Brady Quinn's senior year.

Only twice have I had good enough seats to claim with complete honesty that his arm is not suspect. (10th row, 40 yard line)

[chiefzilla1501]

it's not ok to want to draft a QB unless you have 5 first round O-lineman in front of him right?

Agreed. We should draft Okung, trade up to the first round to grab a Center, and a Guard. We'd be one first round pick away from an all-world offensive line.

[the Talking Can]

Having seen him play twice in person in South Bend - from damn good seats, I can say he has plenty of zip on the ball. He doesn't have a Cutler-like cannon, but I think it's comparable to guys like Ryan and Sanchez. Definitely enough to make all the throws - his arm is above average, IMO.

And I agree, I'd prefer to take him and sit him for at least 8 games, if not the entire year.

good to hear....

[The Franchise]

I've had a few connections over the years.

My wife used to work for Munir Prince's dad, so we went a few times before he transfered to Mizzou, and a buddy of mine works for an eye doctor who's an alum who gives us tickets to a game or two every year.

I've probably been to 6 games or so since Brady Quinn's senior year.

Only twice have I had good enough seats to claim with complete honesty that his arm is not suspect. (10th row, 40 yard line)

Damn...I wish I was that lucky.

I'm starting to see what options I have this year for the USC/ND game down in LA.

[the Talking Can]

is cassel's contract bonus due before next year(2010) or before the following year(2011)?

assumed it was 2011, but don't know

[WildTurkey]

Agreed. We should draft Okung, trade up to the first round to grab a Center, and a Guard. We'd be one first round pick away from an all-world offensive line.

after that we can sign a "game manager" QB, Kerry Collins would probably be available :rolleyes:

[OnTheWarpath15]

assumed it was 2011, but don't know

It's the first day of the league year, 2011.

So basically, one year from next friday.

[the Talking Can]

Smoke screen most likely. But the low level drafturbator rubes around here are in a frenzy about it.

"We haven't had a QBOTF since Brodie!!!!"

"Draft Clausen 'cause he looks so good in a bikini bottom!"

"We need a prima donna quarterback with a noodle arm and no mobility!"

"First rounder on a quarterback! I think I whizzed in my pants!"

These guys don't even give a shit who the quarterback is, they just so want the Chiefs to use a first rounder on one. ****. They would have been placated with Jamarcus Russell if the Chiefs had the draft pick to spend on him.

I feel like calling the veterinarian so he can show up and start tranq'ing these out of control nitwits.

not sure how it is even possible to be as fucking clueless as you...

it's like gunther had a baby with kcjohnny....then smashed it's head with a hammer every day for the first year of its life....

[Ralphy Boy]

Great touch. Great accuracy. Mike Shanahan knows QB's and this kid is the real deal. Forget about it. Mike's gonna **** us one more time for good measure.

Sounds about right.

Clausen in the 1st and Golden Tate in the 2nd

Even I would love that to happen.


If by remote chance he was there, Weis may have enough trust from those guys for them to pull that trigger.

For that matter, we don't know that Clausen wasn't a part of the reason they hired Weis or a reason why Weis accepted the job.

Its not like he wasn't going to get offers to go elsewhere. If Weis had wanted to be the OC in Cleveland and reunite with Quinn, it would have happened.

Weis would have been welcomed to more than a few teams with open arms, ESPECIALLY those that need a QB.

Not saying it was the reason he was hired, just that I don't think they would have told him definitively that they wouldn't take Clausen if he were there.

[BigMeatballDave]

I have a really hard time buying it, the way this organization has treated Cassel it would be a complete and total 180 on everything.I get what you're saying here, but they are not gonna come right out and publically berate Cassel. The guy had a shitty season. No sense in throwing him under the bus as well.

I'm not sure about Clausen, but I hope they take him. If Cassel continues to struggle next season with Clausen as #2, it will be easy to let him go.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Damn...I wish I was that lucky.

I'm starting to see what options I have this year for the USC/ND game down in LA.

Yeah, well the luck ended yesterday.

My buddy just took a new job with a different doc.

Which is fine. Wasn't really a fan, but it's a cool fucking experience.

[OnTheWarpath15]

not sure how it is even possible to be as fucking clueless as you...

it's like gunther had a baby with kcjohnny....then smashed it's head with a hammer every day for the first year of its life....

LMAO

[milkman]

as usual, your comprehensive is the equivalent of a 3-year old.

a QB is more heavily dependent on the talent around him to succeed than a LT.

1. if OC calls a shit game is reflects heavily on the QB and he looks bad
2. if the Oline blocks bad it makes the QB look like shit
3. if you don't have a running game it makes the QB's job harder
4. if the WR's don't run their routes at the right depth, make the right reads or drop passes it makes the QB look terrible

pretty much every weakness of an offense leads to the QB looking like shit.

now an unbalanced offense and play calling effects the performance of the Olineman too but if a LT gets his ass handed to him by a DE then it's pretty much JUST A LT FAILURE.

therefore ... a bad performance by an LT is more informative than a bad performance by a QB who can have so many other variables effecting him.


it's too early to give up on either but last year's performance by Albert is more damming than Cassel's.

JFC you dumb motherfucker, perhaps my "comprehensive" of your dumb fucking post is because of the fact that you have no fucking comprehension (you see that you dick breathed dipshit sucking fuck face?, That's the correct word.) of the English fucking language.

The question you dumbfuck was presented to you without insult, and with facts.

I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of the bullshit excuses.

Bottom fucking line, you useless scum sucking, dick licker, is that Matt Cassel has practiced QB for his entire life, and he made the O-Line look worse than it actually was.

Bottom fucking line, you chimp ass licker, is that Albert has played and practiced at his position for two years, and has undergone far more change than anyone, and even while he, and the rest of the O-Line showed improvement, Matt Cassel got worse.

So shut the fuck up, and learn how to fucking spell and use words.

[SDChiefs]

JFC you dumb mother****er, perhaps my "comprehensive" of your dumb ****ing post is because of the fact that you have no ****ing comprehension (you see that you dick breathed dipshit sucking **** face?, That's the correct word.) of the English ****ing language.

The question you dumb**** was presented to you without insult, and with facts.

I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of the bullshit excuses.

Bottom ****ing line, you useless scum sucking, dick licker, is that Matt Cassel has practiced QB for his entire life, and he made the O-Line look worse than it actually was.

Bottom ****ing line, you chimp ass licker, is that Albert has played and practiced at his position for two years, and has undergone far more change than anyone, and even while he, and the rest of the O-Line showed improvement, Matt Cassel got worse.

So shut the **** up, and learn how to ****ing spell and use words.

:eek: Dude, I think you might have popped a blood vessel.

[Mr. Laz]

assumed it was 2011, but don't knowthat would be ideal because that would allow Cassel to continue to start until Clausen was ready to take over ... even if that meant an entire year.

[WildTurkey]

JFC you dumb mother****er, perhaps my "comprehensive" of your dumb ****ing post is because of the fact that you have no ****ing comprehension (you see that you dick breathed dipshit sucking **** face?, That's the correct word.) of the English ****ing language.

The question you dumb**** was presented to you without insult, and with facts.

I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of the bullshit excuses.

Bottom ****ing line, you useless scum sucking, dick licker, is that Matt Cassel has practiced QB for his entire life, and he made the O-Line look worse than it actually was.

Bottom ****ing line, you chimp ass licker, is that Albert has played and practiced at his position for two years, and has undergone far more change than anyone, and even while he, and the rest of the O-Line showed improvement, Matt Cassel got worse.

So shut the **** up, and learn how to ****ing spell and use words.

Do you like Laz's post or not?....You're far too subtle

[Mr. Flopnuts]

JFC you dumb motherfucker, perhaps my "comprehensive" of your dumb fucking post is because of the fact that you have no fucking comprehension (you see that you dick breathed dipshit sucking fuck face?, That's the correct word.) of the English fucking language.

The question you dumbfuck was presented to you without insult, and with facts.

I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of the bullshit excuses.

Bottom fucking line, you useless scum sucking, dick licker, is that Matt Cassel has practiced QB for his entire life, and he made the O-Line look worse than it actually was.

Bottom fucking line, you chimp ass licker, is that Albert has played and practiced at his position for two years, and has undergone far more change than anyone, and even while he, and the rest of the O-Line showed improvement, Matt Cassel got worse.

So shut the fuck up, and learn how to fucking spell and use words.


Dad, I want you to count to ten and ask yourself "Is this important?" LMAO

[Mr. Laz]

:eek: Dude, I think you might have popped a blood vessel.
milk lost his dam mind last year when the Chiefs past on Sanchez.

It's a shame really, one of CP's quality posters has turned into another ROR.

[WildTurkey]

JFC you dumb mother****er, perhaps my "comprehensive" of your dumb ****ing post is because of the fact that you have no ****ing comprehension (you see that you dick breathed dipshit sucking **** face?, That's the correct word.) of the English ****ing language.

The question you dumb**** was presented to you without insult, and with facts.

I don't give a rat's ass about the rest of the bullshit excuses.

Bottom ****ing line, you useless scum sucking, dick licker, is that Matt Cassel has practiced QB for his entire life, and he made the O-Line look worse than it actually was.

Bottom ****ing line, you chimp ass licker, is that Albert has played and practiced at his position for two years, and has undergone far more change than anyone, and even while he, and the rest of the O-Line showed improvement, Matt Cassel got worse.

So shut the **** up, and learn how to ****ing spell and use words.

say it with me.... "Serenity Now"

[The Franchise]

milk lost his dam mind last year when the Chiefs pasted on Sanchez.

It's a shame really, one of CP's quality posters has turned into another ROR.

:facepalm:

[Mr. Laz]

:facepalm:
it's the truth ... Milkman is just another crybaby little bitch now.

[The Franchise]

it's the truth ... Milkman is just another crybaby little bitch now.

That's funny coming from you.

[WildTurkey]

it's the truth ... Milkman is just another crybaby little bitch now.

:popcorn:

[the Talking Can]

that would be ideal because that would allow Cassel to continue to start until Clausen was ready to take over ... even if that meant an entire year.

that's my sports fantasy equivalent of a sex fantasy....



i don't care if it was 2 years even...just get the guy on your roster

[milkman]

milk lost his dam mind last year when the Chiefs past on Sanchez.

It's a shame really, one of CP's quality posters has turned into another ROR.

I don't dwell on the passed.

If I did, you'd really see the damn break.

[RustShack]

I can't wait for the true fan meltdown when okung isn't the pick.

[RNR]

:popcorn:

I am going to grab a fresh scotch and water do you need anything? I plan on watching this with you :)

[The Franchise]

I don't dwell on the passed.

If I did, you'd really see the damn break.

It's funny because he edited it....and still got it wrong.

[BossChief]

Just shut the fuck up sac

everyone of your posts just screams FAIL

[DeezNutz]

I am going to grab a fresh scotch and water do you need anything? I plan on watching this with you :)

Please bring two.

No water, though. The ice will melt.

:)

[MahiMike]

Are we talking about the same QB that was getting cussed out by fans around town? Didn't Weiss just lose his job with that QB? What's so great about him?

[The Franchise]

Are we talking about the same QB that was getting cussed out by fans around town? Didn't Weiss just lose his job with that QB? What's so great about him?

1. Fans are bitches when a team loses.
2. Weis lost his job because he could never put together a fucking defense.

[DeezNutz]

Are we talking about the same QB that was getting cussed out by fans around town? Didn't Weiss just lose his job with that QB? What's so great about him?

Good points.

I think most people are just wanting to draft a QB, any QB. Scary!

[RustShack]

So does the combine start today?

[chop]

WalterFootball Mock draft has Clausen going #1 overall. In case you're interested.

http://walterfootball.com/draft2010.php

[Saccopoo]

Originally Posted by milkman
So you are more ready to give up a guy with superior athleticism, who has worked and played his position for two years, who has undergone more changes physically, technically, and schematically than anyone on the team in the last year than a guy who has worked and prcticed at his position all his life?

I thought "this can't be Milkman" talking about Cassel and couldn't believe that it was you. It's appropriate for Cassel though. Nice take Milk.

[chop]

So does the combine start today?

I just read an atricle that said it did start today.

[RNR]

Please bring two.

No water, though. The ice will melt.

:)

Sorry you must be used to the more mature scotch I am drinking a youngster the water helps smooth the youth out :)

[RustShack]

I just read an atricle that said it did start today.

So did I, and I was surprised that I haven't heard a single thing about it here or on TV.

[Saccopoo]

Just shut the **** up sac

everyone of your posts just screams FAIL

Hmmm...and I thought that they were pretty much spot on.

I guess people around here just don't appreciate objectivity and reason.

[ChiefsCountry]

Clausen would be the only player other than Berry that makes the most sense for the Chiefs in the 1st. I still think he goes to St. Louis though.

[RustShack]

Hmmm...and I thought that they were pretty much spot on.

I guess people around here just don't appreciate objectivity and reason.

ROFL

[RustShack]

Clausen would be the only player other than Berry that makes the most sense for the Chiefs in the 1st. I still think he goes to St. Louis though.

I think the top three guys the Chiefs will look at is Clausen, McClain, and Bulaga. But since I highly doubt we take a LT we can take out Bulaga and insert Berry. But thats not in any order.

[The Bad Guy]

I'm very much down for this.

Of course, Saccoshit posts his agenda by posting questionable photos of Claussen. If anyone outside of you, and the rest of your true fan asslicking dickfaces, gave a shit about Okung, I'm sure we could find questionable photos of him as well.

Clausen is going to be a stud NFL QB. I'd take him every day of the week. The learning curve for the offense would be minimized. He has the moxy to play the position.

Who the hell said since Charlie didn't win with him in college that he couldn't here? If you watched ND play last year, you would have saw that their defense was awful.

I pretty much don't want to even think about Cassel being on this team a year from now. Clausen ensures that.

[The Bad Guy]

The whole Baluga angle is hilarious. Like it fucking matters who he played for in college.

[Chiefnj2]

So did I, and I was surprised that I haven't heard a single thing about it here or on TV.

"The first day for each group involves registration and orientation, while the players undergo medical tests and get x-rays. The second day involves the weigh-in, along with more medical tests, as well as some psychological testing. On the third day, players meet the players association and undergo further pyschological testing; they also undergo strength testing. Finally on the fourth day players hit the field for physical skills' test and as well as positional drills. "

[Dave Lane]

Sent out 4 now or maybe 5. send me another email to bigredcheif@yahoo.com

I didn't get any either. Well email sent hopefully this gets me on!

[DeezNutz]

and the rest of your true fan asslicking dickfaces,

LMAO

[BossChief]

That was different though, they felt like Brady was just as good and younger and cheaper etc etc, here we're talking about drafting a guy not even a year after every single week every excuse imaginable was made on how things weren't his fault. What if they dont feel that the "gamble" they took on Cassel isn't gonna pan out and want to hedge their bets?

The connection to Weis could definitely tip the scales.

Hmmm...and I thought that they were pretty much spot on.

I guess people around here just don't appreciate objectivity and reason.
I am asking this while being serious and with concern:

did you bump your head recently?

...

Someone say something about MOXY?

[Red Dawg]

It won't happen. No way we take a QB at 5. Team needs an ass load of talent.

[DeezNutz]

In order for Clausen to be a real possibility, I'd have to think that Weis would have to threaten to burn down Arrowhead, after making a lengthy argument, detailing all of Cassel's shortcomings.

Draft a franchise QB? The Chiefs?

...

[Hammock Parties]

Is it feasible to have two quarterbacks with $60 million contracts?

Of course I guess there's the idea that Cassel can be cut next year to avoid paying his roster bonus...but I'm not sure how much money he costs the Chiefs in that event...anyone know exactly what it is?

[milkman]

It won't happen. No way we take a QB at 5. Team needs an ass load of talent.

Except, of course, at QB.

Why would a team need a QB with talent?

That's just assinine.

[Sure-Oz]

QB is the least important position on the field, take OKUNG!111111111111

[DeezNutz]

Except, of course, at QB.

Why would a team need a QB with talent?

That's just assinine.

There isn't a QB in the league who would have done well behind our line.

You think P. Manning would have led this team to the playoffs? You're crazy.

Build the lines first.

[Saccopoo]

I mean, if you were serious about analyzing this data, their are two points in the topic that most of you are failing to understand.

#1. Chiefs "may" draft Clausen.

The Yellowstone super volcano "may" explode and throw so much ash into the air that it stops photosynthesis and kills 96% of all life on earth. The New Madrid fault line "may" pop swallowing the entire midwest, from Chicago to Oklahoma City.

#2. If he grades out better than Okung.

While most of you seem to be suffering from short term memory loss, the Chiefs coaching staff has game film of last season. They will not forget the amazing ineptitude of the offensive line. Right now, it sounds like the Chiefs have Okung as their #1 guy and "MAY" consider Clausen over him, with the caveat of Clausen grading out better than Okung and if he provides a viable upgrade to Herr Cassel. MAY. Not WILL. MAY. And then it was just "may consider." Not will pick. Not he's the guy. "may consider."

You people have your panties in such a knot over this when it's like a 2.7% likelihood that he would even be considered over Okung, let alone picked over Okung.

At least to me, it sounds like Russ is their guy as of right now.

[WildTurkey]

QB is the least important position on the field, take OKUNG!111111111111

everybody knows you build O-line first than get a game manager QB.... that is the sure fire way to win a championship :rolleyes:

[ChiefsCountry]

Of course, Saccoshit posts his agenda by posting questionable photos of Claussen. If anyone outside of you, and the rest of your true fan asslicking dickfaces, gave a shit about Okung, I'm sure we could find questionable photos of him as well.

He pulled the same shit with Sanchez as well.

[Hammock Parties]

At least to me, it sounds like Russ is their guy as of right now.

Nobody fucking knows who the Chiefs' "guy" is right now.

It's all a bunch of horseshit speculation.

[Saccopoo]

Someone say something about MOXY?

http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jimmy-clausen.jpg

Awesome, if he doesn't work out at quarterback, we could always use his head as a toilet brush or as a french tickler for sexually disinterested pachyderms at the zoo.

Or a hand model.

Or a salesman for Jostens.

[Mecca]

Seeing where MahiMike and Tuckdaddy stand on this issue should tell everyone what the obvious right answer is.

[Saccopoo]

Nobody ****ing knows who the Chiefs' "guy" is right now.

It's all a bunch of horseshit speculation.

What?! Are you serious?!

I'm so fucking bummed now.

[Mecca]

If they were going to dump Cassel now is the time, the uncapped year leaves 0 cap implication for doing it.

[RustShack]

The whole Baluga angle is hilarious. Like it fucking matters who he played for in college.

It would be more hilarious if he wasn't bigger and more athletic than Okung. Or if he didn't actually translate to LT in our offense where Okung translates to a RT or even RG in our offense before he does LT.

[WildTurkey]

What?! Are you serious?!

I'm so ****ing bummed now.

Not as bummed as I will be if the Chiefs actually end up taking "Black John Tait" at 5

[Saccopoo]

He pulled the same shit with Sanchez as well.

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mark-sanchez-1.jpg

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

Maybe they can go to the beach together during the summer and rub oil on each others backs.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

What?! Are you serious?!

I'm so fucking bummed now.

How dare anyone talk, or speculate about it. :rolleyes:

Kick rocks retard.

[RustShack]

Not as bummed as I will be if the Chiefs actually end up taking "Black John Tait" at 5

Which means he would be a stupid version of Tait.

[Reerun_KC]

http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jimmy-clausen.jpg

Awesome, if he doesn't work out at quarterback, we could always use his head as a toilet brush or as a french tickler for sexually disinterested pachyderms at the zoo.

Or a hand model.

Or a salesman for Jostens.

WTF is that?

[BossChief]

Moxy

[Hammock Parties]

The best thing about drafting Clausen would be all the Sting photoshops.

[The Bad Guy]

http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/jimmy-clausen.jpg

Awesome, if he doesn't work out at quarterback, we could always use his head as a toilet brush or as a french tickler for sexually disinterested pachyderms at the zoo.

Or a hand model.

Or a salesman for Jostens.

Your obsession with Okung makes Denise's crush on Gannon look like a kindergarten crush.

[The Bad Guy]

http://www.totalprosports.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/mark-sanchez-1.jpg

http://www.notredamesucks.org/clausen.jpg

Maybe they can go to the beach together during the summer and rub oil on each others backs.

I want a webcam on you when the Chiefs don't pick Okung.

[DeezNutz]

I want a webcam on you when the Chiefs don't pick Okung.

I don't think we'd see much. From the faces and names thread:

http://bastardlogic.files.wordpress.com/2007/11/head_up_ass.jpg

[Ebolapox]

ya know, for the record, we DID have his brother casey for a cup of coffee one training camp.

[smittysbar]

I would love if this happened

[Marcellus]

I wouldn't mind it a bit.

[chiefzilla1501]

If they were going to dump Cassel now is the time, the uncapped year leaves 0 cap implication for doing it.

It doesn't really sound like there's going to be a huge cap implication if we cut him next year either.

Cutting Cassel would be ridiculous. Even if we draft Clausen. He at least deserves to compete for the starting job in 2010 and let Clausen develop on the bench. And if Cassel ends up playing well, that's a real good problem to have.

[Mecca]

It doesn't really sound like there's going to be a huge cap implication if we cut him next year either.

Cutting Cassel would be ridiculous. Even if we draft Clausen. He at least deserves to compete for the starting job in 2010 and let Clausen develop on the bench. And if Cassel ends up playing well, that's a real good problem to have.

What if Kiper is right and Denver would give a 2 for him? Wouldn't you take that?

[Marcellus]

What if Kiper is right and Denver would give a 2 for him? Wouldn't you take that?

Ain't gonna happen but wouldn't that be something.

We get the 2nd rounder back and only pay him what we would have for the franchise tag for one year.

I don't see it, but that would be interesting though.