Detroit Tigers @ Kansas City Royals Game Thread (4/7)

[Sure-Oz]

Looking at the replay bloomy was a 1/4 after 3rd base when the ball made it to the cutoff man full speed ahead i think he makes it

fuck u owen

[Sure-Oz]

I remember Buster Olney, who has NY ties, indicated there was some truth to this rumor. He was pretty highly thought of.

Wtf do the yankees know? they have pena on their staff and buy all their players

[petegz28]

Looking at the replay bloomy was a 1/4 after 3rd base when the ball made it to the cutoff man full speed ahead i think he makes it

**** u owen

And the relay man was out in short right center, was he not?

[DeezNutz]

I remember Buster Olney, who has NY ties, indicated there was some truth to this rumor. He was pretty highly thought of.

Then I could be completely wrong.

It's just bottling (CP) that Barnyard could possibly be a hot commodity if you've actually seen him manage.

[Al Czervik]

No way Bloomy doesnt score...
2 games in a row that this limp dick makes
a bone headed move....

86 this baffoon...

[Sure-Oz]

And the relay man was out in short right center, was he not?

Yes he was...

[alnorth]

some posts from Tiger fans:

There you go guys. Sometimes you just need a guy with closer experience out there, you know?

I'm glad we spent a bajillion dollars on Jose Valverde.

7 million dollars.

can't get 1 out against kansas f**king city

post from a neutral fan:

HAHAHAAH i am so glad i kept watching this game

thanks royals you rule

[KChiefs1]

I have the ask....WTF was Owen doing holding up Bloomquist???????

[Sure-Oz]

Long story short owen couldve cost us an out if that isn't an error with ankiel running full steam towards 3rd, he probably had the go sign for ankiel and a stop sign for bloomy

fucknut

[petegz28]

Yes he was...

So it would have taken a laser on target to even make it close. Owen is a fuckhead.

[petegz28]

Long story short owen couldve cost us an out if that isn't an error with ankiel running full steam towards 3rd, he probably had the go sign for ankiel and a stop sign for bloomy

****nut

Cost us an out AND a run. And probably a win.

[Sure-Oz]

Keep grinding/hillman

[Sure-Oz]

Cost us an out AND a run. And probably a win.

yes, owen is lucky they missed that play

[DeezNutz]

To me, and I haven't watched a replay, it looked like Owen was being indecisive as fuck, a natural but catastrophic byproduct of repeated dumbassery.

[jbwm89]

Hillman just said he didnt ever think we would lose the game, even after they pulled ahead.

[LetsSignRussell]

Hillman just said he didnt ever think we would lose the game, even after they pulled ahead.

not with our firepower :rolleyes:

[petegz28]

To me, and I haven't watched a replay, it looked like Owen was being indecisive as ****, a natural but catastrophic byproduct of repeated dumbassery.

You have to think someone that matters notices this if the fans can spot it so easily.

[alnorth]

I have the ask....WTF was Owen doing holding up Bloomquist???????

Before the cutoff man dropped it, it was the right call. He might have made it, but we had 2nd and 3rd no outs guaranteed and it would have been very close at the plate.

It is very difficult to prevent anyone from scoring in that situation when you (Detroit) don't have a great pitcher available.

edit: Didn't notice Ankiel wasn't stopping. Not sure whose fault that would be if Ankiel ran himself into an out, was the stop sign extremely late or did Ankiel not look?

[petegz28]

If you have already rounded the bag by the time the relay guy gets the ball and the relay guy is in the shallow OF you send the fucking runner unless it's Butler or someone like that.

[petegz28]

Before the cutoff man dropped it, it was the right call. He might have made it, but we had 2nd and 3rd no outs guaranteed and it would have been very close at the plate.

It is very difficult to prevent anyone from scoring in that situation when you (Detroit) don't have a great pitcher available.

edit: Didn't notice Ankiel wasn't stopping. Not sure whose fault that would be if Ankiel ran himself into an out, was the stop sign extremely late or did Ankiel not look?

No, we would have have a runner at 3rd with 1 out because Ankiel would have been dead.

[petegz28]

Before the cutoff man dropped it, it was the right call. He might have made it, but we had 2nd and 3rd no outs guaranteed and it would have been very close at the plate.

It is very difficult to prevent anyone from scoring in that situation when you (Detroit) don't have a great pitcher available.

edit: Didn't notice Ankiel wasn't stopping. Not sure whose fault that would be if Ankiel ran himself into an out, was the stop sign extremely late or did Ankiel not look?

Watch the replay again, Owen didn't put up the stop sign until AFTER Bloomy had rounded the base

[tk13]

Then I could be completely wrong.

It's just bottling (CP) that Barnyard could possibly be a hot commodity if you've actually seen him manage.

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Royals-might-grab-Hillman-before-Yankees?urn=mlb,49848&cp=2

I mean I'm sure I could find others... I don't even think Hillman was a frontrunner but he was a serious candidate. He'd really never struggled too much until he came here. Don't ever forget that in a different world, Dayton would be the GM of the Red Sox and Hillman would be manager of the Yankees.

[LetsSignRussell]

what happened to paul splitoroff?

[SCTrojan]

Before the cutoff man dropped it, it was the right call. He might have made it, but we had 2nd and 3rd no outs guaranteed and it would have been very close at the plate.

It is very difficult to prevent anyone from scoring in that situation when you (Detroit) don't have a great pitcher available.

edit: Didn't notice Ankiel wasn't stopping. Not sure whose fault that would be if Ankiel ran himself into an out, was the stop sign extremely late or did Ankiel not look?

I agree with you, al. If there is any doubt about his making it, you stop him. I also think it's a by-product of what happened Monday.

If Ankiel would have got caught between 2nd and 3rd, which I thought was going to happen, it would have been on him. He's got to know that he is just about irrelevant there. The only guy that matters is Bloomquist. Ankiel cannot do anything that would lead to an out.

[PunkinDrublic]

Don't look now but we're tied for first!
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[DeezNutz]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Royals-might-grab-Hillman-before-Yankees?urn=mlb,49848&cp=2

I mean I'm sure I could find others... I don't even think Hillman was a frontrunner but he was a serious candidate. He'd really never struggled too much until he came here. Don't ever forget that in a different world, Dayton would be the GM of the Red Sox and Hillman would be manager of the Yankees.

Good point about Dayton.

And I remember the "sleeper" business with Trey. Too bad we didn't let that dog stay down, or, more importantly, be like Boston for DM.

[LetsSignRussell]

WHAT HAPPENED TO PAUL?

[petegz28]

WHAT HAPPENED TO PAUL?

He had a reaction to some medication.

[LetsSignRussell]

He had a reaction to some medication.

:eek:

[teedubya]

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/rumors/post/Royals-might-grab-Hillman-before-Yankees?urn=mlb,49848&cp=2

I mean I'm sure I could find others... I don't even think Hillman was a frontrunner but he was a serious candidate. He'd really never struggled too much until he came here. Don't ever forget that in a different world, Dayton would be the GM of the Red Sox and Hillman would be manager of the Yankees.

OMFG, read teh comments on that article, HY-STERICAL.

you guys in kc are so lucky. you will not believe how great a human being, family man, baseball person, manager, etc. you are getting. trey has been a winner every where he has gone. i still cannot believe that texas passed on him last year. get your popcorn ready, kc, it won

Keep in mind, Trey managed for 15 years in the Yankee organization and was successfull at every step in the minor leagues, his last stop was for the Columbus Clippers, the Yankees former AAA affiliate and in order for the Yankees to keep him close, but allow him to get big league experience was for him to jump to Japan.
Great move on Trey's part and now to land in KC under the radar, he will have huge success within 4 yrs.
Trey's interaction with players is incredible, a real motivator, high expectations, but level headed.
He is always thinking forward, 3 steps ahead. I learned so much from Trey in the year that I played SS for him in Greensboro. Mechanics of the game, my position and how to play poker from the dugout : dont show your hand until its a critical time or a valuable moment.

Looking forward to getting me a KC cap and changing my loyalty. Trey is a great person first which leaks over to his managing abilities. And I don't know if he eats Arbys or not but there is a resturant in Japan named Hillmans Hideout specializing in Texas food. Get ready for some good times KC.

[tk13]

Well, to be fair, it's not been 4 years yet. :)

[shakesthecat]

Woo hoo!!

[KevB]

I agree with you, al. If there is any doubt about his making it, you stop him. I also think it's a by-product of what happened Monday.

If Ankiel would have got caught between 2nd and 3rd, which I thought was going to happen, it would have been on him. He's got to know that he is just about irrelevant there. The only guy that matters is Bloomquist. Ankiel cannot do anything that would lead to an out.

As terrible as our 3rd base coach has been, he didn't do anything wrong on this play. Trojan has it right.

And as 3rd base coach, you string the runner along as long as possible before throwing up the stop sign. You don't have red/yellow/green, so you want the guy running hard the entire time, and as coach you give yourself as long as possible to make a decision. I'm sure once he saw Sizemore boot the throw, he was right next to Willie and yelling for him to go. No reason to wave your hands when you're 2 feet away from the runner.

[KCrockaholic]

I feel so bad for KC's starting pitchers.... Luke was awesome today.

[Sure-Oz]

LOL @ the hillman article...

in all honesty this team is all DM

[CaliforniaChief]

Dave Owen should be kept away from all youth baseball clinics. We need to keep the next generation safe from this debacle called Royals' baserunning.

[kstater]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.

[AndChiefs]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.

He gave up a run and almost lost the game.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.
ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

What I go through to watch this team....

Cold, rain, extra inning comeback.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.

ROFL

[KCUnited]

I felt this guy summed up my perception of the game as well as my feelings regarding the up coming draft.

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/4623/newimageq.jpg (http://img220.imageshack.us/i/newimageq.jpg/)

[gblowfish]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.

You're kidding. This is sarcasm, right?
Right?

JFC!!!

[Mama Hip Rockets]

how can a grown man's ears get so cold he has to wear a hat like that on tv?

ROFL

[KCUnited]

Who's the afternoon game thread creator? We are tied for 2nd and last after all.

[Demonpenz]

I went to the game on Wednesday. Frooze my ass off. there are retarded people all over the place at the game now a days. Some waste-tard freaking all wasted and falling all over me ugh. Glad callapso parked one!

[CoMoChief]

Quick question....

Why does DDJ lead off instead of Podsednik? Pod is a much better base stealer.

[Sure-Oz]

DDJ is soft and seems to only hit decent leading off

[Jenson71]

Quick 123. Nice job Banny. His daytime dominance continues.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

Game not on TV here. Woke up, looked at the boxscore. Great news to see Farnsworth get the win and pitch good in high pressure situations.

To be fair, only giving up one run in a tie game IS pretty good for Fartsworth. I was expecting a 3 run bomb at least.

[OmahaChief]

anyone got a stream of the game. can't find one online tha that is working for radio

[DeezNutz]

Quick question....

Why does DDJ lead off instead of Podsednik? Pod is a much better base stealer.

It's not '75.

The stolen base is one of the most overblown aspects of the game for fans.

[DeezNutz]

Get your fucking glove on the ground, Kendall, you stupid piece of shit.

[CaliforniaChief]

Big strikeout...Banny playing with fire...2 outs in the 4th, runners at 2nd and 3rd

[CaliforniaChief]

Nice job Banny!!!!!

[DeezNutz]

Hillman's bunting philosophy (read: guessing) is going to drive me fucking insane.

[Saulbadguy]

anyone got a stream of the game. can't find one online tha that is working for radio
It's the MLB. They have spies on the internet. They will not allow this.

[BillSelfsTrophycase]

anyone got a stream of the game. can't find one online tha that is working for radio

I've got a TV stream, no radio streams that I know of

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/35968-Streaming-MLB-Today-Thurs-Apr-8

[siberian khatru]

Quick question....

Why does DDJ lead off instead of Podsednik? Pod is a much better base stealer.

DeJesus in his career:

At leadoff: .806 OPS
As #2: .689
As #3: .696

Addendum:

DeJesus OBP:

At leadoff: .367
At #2: .319
At #3: .325

Pods OBP:
At leadoff: .342
At #2: .346

[CaliforniaChief]

It was dicey, but somebody in our bullpen actually held a lead for 1 inning.

Dusty Hughes...future Royals HOF'er.

[CaliforniaChief]

Alberto Callaspo was great last night. Today, not so much.

[OmahaChief]

Alberto Callaspo was great last night. Today, not so much.


Had he not hit that HR last night we would be calling for his head on a stick. He has been total junk today.

[OmahaChief]

I've got a TV stream, no radio streams that I know of

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/threads/35968-Streaming-MLB-Today-Thurs-Apr-8

Thanks

[OmahaChief]

Anyone want to bet against that leadoff walk scoring?

[CaliforniaChief]

Anyone want to bet against that leadoff walk scoring?

Nope. I'm just hoping that's all that scores.

[PunkinDrublic]

Umpire fucked us. That one pitch was a strike. Damon should be out!
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[CaliforniaChief]

Cabrera, at 2 HR and 6 RBI, has now surpassed what Jason Kendall will do all year.

[CaliforniaChief]

Our bullpen is shaping up to be the worst in the history of Major League Baseball. It's stunning how bad they are.

[OmahaChief]

Another typical Royal bully meltdown. Three games three blown leads. Bunch of sad sack pieces of shit that bullpen is. Not to mention this shit offense we have nor the even worse defense or manager. Heck Fuck it...they all suck.

[tk13]

I'm ready to revise my prediction. If we could find a setup guy, we could win 95 games, not just 75.
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[OmahaChief]

The best thing that could happen is a couple of our bullpen pitchers take some line drives off their throat and we be forced to replace them.

[OmahaChief]

Ankiel will strike out this inning...mark it down.

[KevB]

As terrible as our bullpen is, we also have scored only 2 runs on Dontrelle freaking Willis. This is a team effort today. Yuni's error, no offense, bad bullpen.....your 2010 Royals!!!

[Deberg_1990]

Yuni's error, no offense, bad bullpen.....your 2010 Royals!!!


Sounds remarkably similiar to your 2009 Royals!

[KevB]

Can anyone explain why the guy that mashed all Spring didn't get a look today? Aviles bats righty, Dontrelle was a lefty.....our offense has been terrible thus far. I couldn't hate this team more right now.

[kstater]

Starter's combined ERA 1.45 with 0 decisions.

[gblowfish]

Thank God I'm at work and don't have to listen to this crap.

[BigCatDaddy]

Ehhh, at least he didn't K.

[OmahaChief]

great job Yuni you POS

[BigCatDaddy]

Betancourt chokes and can't get the fly.

[BigCatDaddy]

2nd and 3rd and 0 out and you can't get them both freaking in.

[PunkinDrublic]

Game should be tied. The ump really fucked us on that non strike call to Damon.
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[OmahaChief]

Just like last year.

Runners in scoring position with no outs and we don't capitalize. We should at least have the game tied right now.

[wazimo]

Why didn't Hillman pinch hit for Yuni? Sometimes I just dont get it.

[DJ's left nut]

Who the fuck is Luis Mendoza?

This man managed an ERA near 9 and a WHIP near 2.0 over 60+ innings in a season with Texas. In that span he gave up 5 or more ERs SEVEN TIMES!!!

I gotta say, that's arguably the worst set of game logs I have ever seen and he's on this roster.

I really feel sorry for you guys sometimes. It's absolutely unreal how badly Dayton Moore sucks at his job.

[AndChiefs]

Who the **** is Luis Mendoza?

This man managed an ERA near 9 and a WHIP near 2.0 over 60+ innings in a season with Texas. In that span he gave up 5 or more ERs SEVEN TIMES!!!

I gotta say, that's arguably the worst set of game logs I have ever seen and he's on this roster.

I really feel sorry for you guys sometimes. It's absolutely unreal how badly Dayton Moore sucks at his job.

I could pitch that well.

[KevB]

Who the **** is Luis Mendoza?

This man managed an ERA near 9 and a WHIP near 2.0 over 60+ innings in a season with Texas. In that span he gave up 5 or more ERs SEVEN TIMES!!!

I gotta say, that's arguably the worst set of game logs I have ever seen and he's on this roster.

I really feel sorry for you guys sometimes. It's absolutely unreal how badly Dayton Moore sucks at his job.

It's just an endless string of bad front office decisions, bad managerial decisions and terribly executed plays on the field. It's getting more and more difficult to watch. Where the F is Colon? He didn't look good Monday, but he was "their man" coming out of the spring. Now we're going to throw this Mendoza idiot into a 1 run game, first series of the season, at home, against a division opponent? Hillman is brain dead.

I need to Hamas to come into this thread and go off on one of his classic rants to make me feel better.

[BigCatDaddy]

Is Tejeda not available today? He was our best shot and getting through the 8th.

[KevB]

Is Tejeda not available today? He was our best shot and getting through the 8th.

He threw both of the first two games, so he's likely unavailable. But where's Colon and Cruz?

[BigCatDaddy]

True, but Tejeda has Tuesday off, so he should have been able to go today. NOW Colon makes it in.

[tk13]

I still don't think it matters. We haven't seen anyone just come in and get 3 outs in a row.
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[BigCatDaddy]

I'm sure this was addressed Monday, but how do you have the worst bullpen in baseball last year and fail to do a damn thing to improve it? In fact it is probably worse if that's possible.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I still don't think it matters. We haven't seen anyone just come in and get 3 outs in a row.
Posted via Mobile DeviceSoria got 3 in a row yesterday.

[BigCatDaddy]

It's going to be a looonnnnngggg season.

[jbwm89]

Bring up Duffy......wait he quit

[Sure-Oz]

It's just an endless string of bad front office decisions, bad managerial decisions and terribly executed plays on the field. It's getting more and more difficult to watch. Where the F is Colon? He didn't look good Monday, but he was "their man" coming out of the spring. Now we're going to throw this Mendoza idiot into a 1 run game, first series of the season, at home, against a division opponent? Hillman is brain dead.

I need to Hamas to come into this thread and go off on one of his classic rants to make me feel better.

Horrible decision by Hillman and they also would have Cruz available i'd say.

3 games 3 blown saves, constant mistakes, we are a joke

[OmahaChief]

If nothing else maybe this shit year will help get rid of Trey. Guy is a complete retard as a manager.

[CaliforniaChief]

If nothing else maybe this shit year will help get rid of Trey. Guy is a complete retard as a manager.

I'm not a big fan of Hillman, but it was Dayton Moore who moved Nunez (for Mike Jacobs), Ramirez (for Coco Crisp), and JP Howell (for Joey Gathright)...along with giving 4 million bones to Kyle Farnsworth. What would have been a dominant bully was gutted for guys who aren't here (or we wish weren't.)

[Mecca]

Hillman manages like a little league manager that wants everyone to play in a series.

Also according to Forbes the Royals turned 155 mill last year, payroll is 70...what's that say...

[Titty Meat]

Ten Thousand at the game today. Yup Kansas City is a baseball town.

[OmahaChief]

I'm not a big fan of Hillman, but it was Dayton Moore who moved Nunez (for Mike Jacobs), Ramirez (for Coco Crisp), and JP Howell (for Joey Gathright)...along with giving 4 million bones to Kyle Farnsworth. What would have been a dominant bully was gutted for guys who aren't here (or we wish weren't.)


I agree that Moore does not get a pass but Try is still one of the worst managers in the league. He has not clue how to handle a lineup or a bullpen. The bully we have is already not good but the way he uses them makes it even worse. Moore is a guy that should not be a GM. He should be a guy that oversees the draft and minor league develpoment. By all accounts that is about the only thing he has had much success with.

[DeezNutz]

KC is the what happens when one of the game's worst GMs couples with one of the game's worst managers.

[Sure-Oz]

KC is the what happens when one of the game's worst GMs couples with one of the game's worst managers.

and one of the worst owners-trifecta

[alnorth]

If nothing else maybe this shit year will help get rid of Trey. Guy is a complete retard as a manager.

I'll never understand why people give a crap about the manager FAR sooner than they would the GM.

Baseball is unique in that the coach/manager/guy who the players take orders from during the game, is the least relevant and least important of all sports. The best manager in the game might win a half dozen more games than the worst manager in the game with the same talent, and thats out of 162 games.

The General Manager is the end-all be-all of baseball. If your team sucks and he has had the job 3-4 years it is probably his fault. If he's been around 5-6 years it is definitely his fault.

If you believe your GM is brilliant, your team should be close to 0.500 most years at worst.

[Saulbadguy]

Dayton is easily more "at fault" than Hillman is.

[DeezNutz]

I'll never understand why people give a crap about the manager FAR sooner than they would the GM.

Baseball is unique in that the coach/manager/guy who the players take orders from during the game, is the least relevant and least important of all sports. The best manager in the game might win a half dozen more games than the worst manager in the game with the same talent, and thats out of 162 games.

The General Manager is the end-all be-all of baseball. If your team sucks and he has had the job 3-4 years it is probably his fault. If he's been around 5-6 years it is definitely his fault.

If you believe your GM is brilliant, your team should be close to 0.500 most years at worst.

Two reasons, I think:

1. People simply aren't that informed as fans.
2. The manager is far more visible, whereas the GM is not. Thus, out of sight, out of mind.

It will be a great day when Moore is fired.

[alanm]

Sounds remarkably similiar to your 2009 Royals!1986 thru 2009. :spock:

[Sure-Oz]

Two reasons, I think:

1. People simply aren't that informed as fans.
2. The manager is far more visible, whereas the GM is not. Thus, out of sight, out of mind.

It will be a great day when Moore is fired.

It's amazing that we get the 'best potential gm prospect' in baseball and he becomes epic fail

I wonder if Arbuckle would take over if he got canned

[DeezNutz]

It's amazing that we get the 'best potential gm prospect' in baseball and he becomes epic fail

I wonder if Arbuckle would take over if he got canned

Dayton Moore is the GM equivalent of Alex Gordon.

[Mecca]

Dayton Moore and Scott Pioli right now seem eerily similar.

[ChiTown]

Dayton Moore and Scott Pioli right now seem eerily similar.

Not even close, but nice try HamMecca