Nick Wright: Chiefs in danger of "losing" Charles

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

getnickwright The #Chiefs are bordering on losing Jamaal Charles... which could lose them the lockerroom... I have the story... I'll explain at 2 sharp

[Bugeater]

WTF

[Bowser]

Who would have thought that a radio personality would float this idea out there?

[The Franchise]

This is not going to end well......

[CHENZ A!]

This guy is full of shit
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[Bowser]

WTFNick Wright is the afternoon radio guy on 610 that goes on opposite that idiot Keitzman.

[CaliforniaChief]

I don't see it on his Twitter.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I hope this is a fucking joke:

http://i53.tinypic.com/59sxdt.jpg

[keg in kc]

So this is his earth shattering breaking news for this week.

Well, got to give him credit for doing anything he can think of to try and bring in audience.

[mlyonsd]

DIVE THE BOAT!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Sorry, Mods for the repost. I was actually trying to get a screenshot before I started a thread.

[InChiefsHeaven]

Dang, it smells like bullshit in here...

[chiefsnorth]

It will be funny when Charles refutes this

[Sure-Oz]

He's just trying to get listeners....that said no excuse for Charles getting 12touches a game.

[Bowser]

It's going to be one of those OMGOMGOMG stories that doesn't amount to a gnat's fart, BUT TUNE IN AND LISTEN!!!!! In other words, he's selling his show.

[keg in kc]

It's going to be one of those OMGOMGOMG stories that doesn't amount to a gnat's fart, BUT TUNE IN AND LISTEN!!!!! In other words, he's selling his show.You misspelled "shilling".

[OnTheWarpath15]

It will be funny when Charles refutes this

Actually, it will be a fucking relief when Charles refutes this.

[Bowser]

You misspelled "shilling".Heh. My bad.

[CaliforniaChief]

The thread title is misleading. The story clearly will be about how Wright thinks that Charles has lost confidence, etc....nothing about him wanting out.

[Bowser]

OH NO CHARLES HAS GONE T.O. ON US

[OnTheWarpath15]

It's going to be one of those OMGOMGOMG stories that doesn't amount to a gnat's fart, BUT TUNE IN AND LISTEN!!!!! In other words, he's selling his show.

Hopefully, but it's Chiefs-related, therefore it gets posted.

The guy could be full of shit. He could also be right, considering the blatant mis-use of Jamaal.

[Bugeater]

The thread title is misleading. The story clearly will be about how Wright thinks that Charles has lost confidence, etc....nothing about him wanting out.
Fucking n00bs. IMO no one with less than 1000 posts should be able to start threads.

[FAX]

What a load of crap.

FAX

[keg in kc]

This is really set up perfectly for him. If Charles doesn't get carries, he has a continuing story, and if he does, Wright can take credit.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The thread title is misleading. The story clearly will be about how Wright thinks that Charles has lost confidence, etc....nothing about him wanting out.

Which is why this thread should be merged into mine.

[Shogun]

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[nychief]

honestly can we change the stupid fucking thread title? It's misleading and is based on a full on retard's info....

[gblowfish]

It must be Radio Rating Week. Stir the sh*t on both 610 and 810.
Next up:
Carl Peterson to be next Raider GM...discuss!

[KCrockaholic]

Somebody needs their thread starting privileges taken away.

[Ming the Merciless]

Banhammer!

[CaliforniaChief]

Which is why this thread should be merged into mine.

Agreed. Your title captures the essence of it.

[milkman]

Sorry, Mods for the repost. I was actually trying to get a screenshot before I started a thread.

Did I play a hand in that repost?

[FAX]

Death to the thread starter!!!

FAX

[keg in kc]

It must be Radio Rating Week. Stir the sh*t on both 610 and 810.
Next up:
Carl Peterson to be next Raider GM...discuss!You know...

I wonder when the fall book starts.

[dtrain]

Why can't this be true? He sat behind LJ and when he got his chance he proved he could be a starter and every down back. He ran, caught passes, and blocked. What is his thanks bring in another back and make him the starter. Can you imagine how frustrating that must be? I don't blame him if he wants to leave KC and the BS!!!!

[OnTheWarpath15]

Did I play a hand in that repost?

LMAO

No. You did not contribute to the story.

[Stinger]

:facepalm:

[Fritz88]

Hopefully, but it's Chiefs-related, therefore it gets posted.

The guy could be full of shit. He could also be right, considering the blatant mis-use of Jamaal.

I don't think that Pioli is that dumb to make that happen. He made many stupid decisions, but this one would be spectacularly stupid.

Also, Athan is full of dogshit.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

KC has the worst sports media in the country, bar none.

[Coogs]

Hopefully, but it's Chiefs-related, therefore it gets posted.

The guy could be full of shit. He could also be right, considering the blatant mis-use of Jamaal.

I saw this one comming. Check out post #45

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=233827

[Mr. Laz]

This guy is full of shit
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unless he has Charles on tape saying so ...

[Bowser]

Hopefully, but it's Chiefs-related, therefore it gets posted.

The guy could be full of shit. He could also be right, considering the blatant mis-use of Jamaal.

Yeah, that would be pretty brazen if he's jumping to a conclusion after listening to third hand info. That fucker really is going to force me to listen.

[Spott]

Am I the only one that doesn't know how to read this shit?

[CaliforniaChief]

I would certainly understand Charles' frustration. I don't get it, either. He should be THE feature of our offense. He can go downfield and catch passes, he's tough, and can break a game open at any minute.

The only knock on him is his propensity to fumble, which I didn't really see much of on his run at the end of last year.

[nychief]

jesus we are fucking 2-0 and the local fucktard media is manufacturing stories.... Charles is a good soldier, he might be frustrated, but we are 2 fucking games into the season. Oh, BTW, Berry is bust according to who? Soren petro? JFC, syracuse is shit factory.

[Stinger]

....

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/1280809125475.jpg

[OnTheWarpath15]

I don't think that Pioli is that dumb to make that happen. He made many stupid decisions, but this one would be spectacularly stupid.

Also, Athan is full of dogshit.

What does Athan have to do with this?

And honestly, what does Pioli have to do with this? It's not Pioli's decision to give the best player on the team 12 touches a week.

[milkman]

KC has the worst sports media in the country, bar none.

You should try listening the crap I have to at times.

[Fritz88]

Nick Athan = http://triptotheouthouse.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/dog-poop2.jpg

[Shogun]

If true, Im going to Maul Nick Wright into fucking oblivion

[HotRoute]

Why can't this be true? He sat behind LJ and when he got his chance he proved he could be a starter and every down back. He ran, caught passes, and blocked. What is his thanks bring in another back and make him the starter. Can you imagine how frustrating that must be? I don't blame him if he wants to leave KC and the BS!!!!

That may very well be true but Charles isn't the type of guy to complain and demand trades and bitch and moan about carries. He is a classy guy who knows how to embrace the opportunities given to him.

In other news ....... talk radio needs listeners

[keg in kc]

The only knock on him is his propensity to fumble, which I didn't really see much of on his run at the end of last year.Injuries are a bigger issue, I think. I heard Herm interviewed yesterday and that was the first thing he mentioned. Said Charles was always dinged in one way or another.

[dtrain]

Why can't this be true? He sat behind LJ and when he got his chance he proved he could be a starter and every down back. He ran, caught passes, and blocked. What is his thanks bring in another back and make him the starter. Can you imagine how frustrating that must be? I don't blame him if he wants to leave KC and the BS!!!!

I'm sure he won't make a fuss and be a distraction he will wait until his contract is up and leave.

[Saccopoo]

OMGWTF?!!!!!

Chris Johnson had 34 yards on 16 carries this past Sunday!!! The Titans are in danger of losing him as he's unhappy with one Sunday's results.

[luv]

Am I the only one that doesn't know how to read this shit?

I get kinda lost, too.

[Fritz88]

What does Athan have to do with this?

And honestly, what does Pioli have to do with this? It's not Pioli's decision to give the best player on the team 12 touches a week.

ROFL. I saw Nick and I immediately thought Nick Athan. Anyhow, the story refutes itself. If that happens, then KC is fucking itself. I can't imagine it happening. Not even Haley is that dumb.

[Spott]

I get kinda lost, too.

I don't know who Aaron Potter or Nick Wright are, but I thought Josh Selby was the guy that was going to play basketball at KU.

[OnTheWarpath15]

ROFL. I saw Nick and I immediately thought Nick "Assclown" Athan. Anyhow, the story refutes itself. If that happens, then KC is fucking itself. I can't imagine it happening. Not even Haley is that dumb.

If what happens?

I think some of you are reading this the wrong way.

I don't think Wright is saying that Jamaal is going to demand a trade.

I think he's saying the Chiefs are in danger of losing Charles as a player that buys into the system - that he's going to lose confidence, and ultimately, productivity.

[Kerberos]

haydenchiefs101 (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=11787) repeat after me:

"I remember this one time at BANNED CAMP"

[Mr. Arrowhead]

yup he says this a hour before his show

[nychief]

I'm sure he won't make a fuss and be a distraction he will wait until his contract is up and leave.

he is not going anywhere.... this fan base is fucking retarded.

[keg in kc]

I said this in the other thread, this is really the perfect story for a talk radio host, if Charles doesn't get more carries, he can keep talking about it ad nauseum, and if he does, then Wright can take credit for it, and claim relevance for his show.

[swayy07]

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[FAX]

Last year we were on the border of "losing" DJ and Bowe ...

I hereby declare Nick Wright to be a quart of Rosie O'Donut's meat curtain pus.

FAX

[The Franchise]

I think he's saying the Chiefs are in danger of losing Charles as a player that buys into the system - that he's going to lose confidence, and ultimately, productivity.

This makes more sense than Charles demanding a trade.

[Fritz88]

If what happens?

I think some of you are reading this the wrong way.

I don't think Wright is saying that Jamaal is going to demand a trade.

I think he's saying the Chiefs are in danger of losing Charles as a player that buys into the system - that he's going to lose confidence, and ultimately, productivity.

You have a point here. Makes a world of sense. I was really thinking a trade. My bad.

[blaise]

Sure- Hey Charles, you like game checks? Okay, good. Thanks.

[Stinger]

The Deal is Done!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Local sports talk radio =

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[nychief]

If what happens?

I think some of you are reading this the wrong way.

I don't think Wright is saying that Jamaal is going to demand a trade.

I think he's saying the Chiefs are in danger of losing Charles as a player that buys into the system - that he's going to lose confidence, and ultimately, productivity.

:clap::clap:

exactly... which is a nonstory.... JC is going to get his carries...

[OnTheWarpath15]

You have a point here. Makes a world of sense. I was really thinking a trade. My bad.

No problem. That other thread with the misleading title has people jumping to all sorts of retarded conclusions.

[CaliforniaChief]

All of you are thinking "trade demand" because a n00b started a thread with a misleading title.

Nick Wright's twitter profile pic should tell you all you need to know in order to understand what this breaking news is all about.

[Fritz88]

This title is quite misleading

A different view point on the issue from OTWP, which makes a lot of sense, from the other thread.



I think some of you are reading this the wrong way.

I don't think Wright is saying that Jamaal is going to demand a trade.

I think he's saying the Chiefs are in danger of losing Charles as a player that buys into the system - that he's going to lose confidence, and ultimately, productivity.

[CaliforniaChief]

No problem. That other thread with the misleading title has people jumping to all sorts of retarded conclusions.

Beat me to it. :clap:

[OnTheWarpath15]

:clap::clap:

exactly... which is a nonstory.... JC is going to get his carries...

Hardly a "non-story" when it's regarding your best player.

[keg in kc]

Last year we were on the border of "losing" DJ and Bowe ...

I hereby declare Nick Wright to be a quart of Rosie O'Donut's meat curtain pus.

FAXNow I want a doughnut.

Thanks, asshole.

[blazzin311]

****ing n00bs. IMO no one with less than 1000 posts should be able to start threads.

Well then it's a good thing it's not up to you.

[DaWolf]

Injuries are a bigger issue, I think. I heard Herm interviewed yesterday and that was the first thing he mentioned. Said Charles was always dinged in one way or another.

Which leads to the question of whether they are taking it easy on him early on with the shoulder thing he had to recover from this offseason...

[Stinger]

Nick Wright's twitter profile pic should tell you all you need to know in order to understand what this breaking news is all about.

I am guessing something like this

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/2a2r01.gif

[OnTheWarpath15]

All of you are thinking "trade demand" because a n00b started a thread with a misleading title.

Nick Wright's twitter profile pic should tell you all you need to know in order to understand what this breaking news is all about.

Another reason why I posted the screencap.

[nychief]

I am more worried about Leinart's mind set, he hasn't gotten any touches since joining the chiefs.

[Coogs]

:clap::clap:

exactly... which is a nonstory.... JC is going to get his carries...


Are you sure? Brass brought in Jones who has gotten the lions share of the carries. And they also spent a high 2nd round pick on McCluster. And when McCluster is in the game, we are seeing him at RB... which is where he was a game breaker at Ole Miss... and not at slot receiver where we all thought we were going to see him. Do you really think the brass wants to keep their expensive shiny new toy in storage?

[CaliforniaChief]

Well then it's a good thing it's not up to you.

There's a lot of wisdom in it, actually. When I look back to my time here, the threads I started inevitably were "fail" until I learned a little bit more about how this place runs.

[The Bad Guy]

What I don't understand is how this is a blatent misuse of Charles.

It's 2 games into the season. He's received over 10 touches each game. The team is 2-0. Thomas Jones is also a pretty good back, not Charles, but pretty good. It's not like Jackie Battle is getting carries over JC.

It's not some conspiracy to keep Charles out of the game. There's no vendetta like some want to proclaim.

[Calitozoni]

[QUOTE=Coogs;7025110]I saw this one comming. Check out post #45



If this happens I hope BCD shits on Pioli's desk as he promised.:D

[Shogun]

Its a process

[Marcellus]

We can't even have a 2-0 start without the retarded KC media trying to stir up shit.

[chiefsnorth]

What I don't understand is how this is a blatent misuse of Charles.

It's 2 games into the season. He's received over 10 touches each game. The team is 2-0. Thomas Jones is also a pretty good back, not Charles, but pretty good. It's not like Jackie Battle is getting carries over JC.

It's not some conspiracy to keep Charles out of the game. There's no vendetta like some want to proclaim.

So far it's about 34 touches to 24 touches. Not like it's a huge difference

[KCbroncoHATER]

Charles is acting like a little kid who isn't getting his way.

Grow up dude.

[Coogs]

[QUOTE=Coogs;7025110]I saw this one comming. Check out post #45



If this happens I hope BCD shits on Pioli's desk as he promised.:D


What if that pick is parlayed into getting a franchise QB to go along with the rest of the pieces that are being assembled into a pretty decent team? Make no mistake about it McCluster is a damn good RB. Charles is too. But there isn't room for two of the same type back, and McCluster is the one Pioli brought in and Charles is the one Herm brought in. Just sayin'.

[keg in kc]

If he's really worried about his carries when the team is winning games, then maybe the benching as an educational tool (which I don't actually think is happening) might not be the wrong move. I've always been lead to believe that that was part of the reason DJ had to sit, to motivate him to learn to play within the scheme and stop going into business for himself and that's exactly the same message they've worked so hard to get across to Bowe over the last year, with the "stats only matter if you're winning" conversation.

And I've never actually heard Charles say anything that makes me think he's not a team player above all else.

[YayMike]

So far it's about 34 touches to 24 touches. Not like it's a huge difference

THIS!!!

If we become 2-8 and Jones is STILL getting majority of the carries, bitch then!

[nychief]

Are you sure? Brass brought in Jones who has gotten the lions share of the carries. And they also spent a high 2nd round pick on McCluster. And when McCluster is in the game, we are seeing him at RB... which is where he was a game breaker at Ole Miss... and not at slot receiver where we all thought we were going to see him. Do you really think the brass wants to keep their expensive shiney new toy in storage?


We are a running team (forced to by Cassel's lack of talent), it is a long season and there are going to plenty of carries to go around. Do I agree totally with JCs' use through two games? No. But, he will get his touches... It's a 16 game sked, soon to be 18, and this is how the NFL is built now... people run out two or three backs out there. They are still trying to figure out how to use Run DMC in this offense, but his touches are going to come from all over. This idea that JC will be as effective with 300 plus touches is totally unfounded... I can promise you, as the season wears on...and the 33 year-old Thomas Jones starts to wear down (did you see him at the end of the year with the jets?), JC will be getting more and more carries... and hopefully leading us in a playoff push.

[InChiefsHeaven]

We can't even have a 2-0 start without the retarded KC media trying to stir up shit.

Indeed. If we were winning by 3 TD's a game, and JC was getting 125 yards per game, the headline would read "Chiefs in danger of losing Charles to injury" followed by a bunch of drool about how we are using him too much.

I'm kinda glad I don't live in KC...

[Hootie]

no...

I bet he's worried that his "lack of touches" is because he's a player needing a new contract...

and he wants to go out and put up CJ numbers so he can get his $25M...

[Hootie]

RB's have a very small window to make their money...

Charles wants to make his money.

[alpha_omega]

Hopefully we are "losing" him so we can trade him for a QB of some sort.

[Brock]

Almost sounds like some LJ rubbed off on him, huh?

[Sofa King]

Charles is acting like a little kid who isn't getting his way.

Grow up dude.



:spock:

[The Bad Guy]

I think the biggest reason Charles has so few carries is because this offense can't sustain any type of drive.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I think the biggest reason Charles has so few carries is because this offense can't sustain any type of drive.

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the best player on the team getting limited touches.

[TrickyNicky]

I am guessing something like this

Fine gif ser. However, my reaction to this can be summed up thusly...

http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20070601012160/uncyclopedia/images/0/01/Disgusted.gif

[YayMike]

Just a thought but...It can be hard to spread out carries when we go 3-out almost every drive!

[BIG_DADDY]

I think the biggest reason Charles has so few carries is because this offense can't sustain any type of drive.

Pretty much. It would be nice to have a line to run behind.

[Hootie]

I am as mad about the lack of touches for Charles as anyone...

but Thomas Jones was great on Sunday if you ask me...

He ran very hard and he's a great player...

[keg in kc]

I'm sure that has nothing to do with the best player on the team getting limited touches.It probably has more to do with the worst player on the team air mailing passes. Let's call him "Drive Killer".

Although I do expect to see more screens at some point.

[OnTheWarpath15]

The 2-0 argument really irks me.

If this team was 2-0 and the offense was clicking, you'd all have a point. It could be claimed that we're winning BECAUSE of the decision to limit JC.

But that's not the case.

The offense is stagnant, and our best player is getting 12 touches a game.

We're not winning because of this decision, we're winning in spite of it.

[KCbroncoHATER]

LJ didn't have to worry about getting his carries.

He had to worry about the sheep who listen to kc sports radio.

[OnTheWarpath15]

What channel is this guy on?

[DaneMcCloud]

Pretty much. It would be nice to have a line to run behind.

The run blocking has been above average through two games.

[Coogs]

I am as mad about the lack of touches for Charles as anyone...

but Thomas Jones was great on Sunday if you ask me...

He ran very hard and he's a great player...


Exactly. And McCluster is a hell of a good RB as well, which is where he is mostly playing... not so much at slot receiver. The hen house is a bit crowded.

.

[OnTheWarpath15]

It probably has more to do with the worst player on the team air mailing passes. Let's call him "Drive Killer".

Although I do expect to see more screens at some point.

Screens = JC

[keg in kc]

Screens = JCHence me saying what I said.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Spoke with players via text. Not Charles.

[Hootie]

I don't mind the role splitting as much as I think they have it backwards...

I don't know...we're 2-0...and neither of these backs are going to do much until Cassel makes other teams start respecting our passing game...

and that isn't happening right now...so I'm just happy our defense is playing so well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Apparently Carthon went out of his way to MF Charles after picking up a 3rd down conversion - and Charles was "despondent and distraught."

This according to players.

[-King-]

Says that Mo Carthon was yelling at Charles up and down the sideline and went out of his way to embarrass Jamaal Charles.

Says after that, Jamaal Charles sat by himself and didn't talk to coaches and teammates.

[Hootie]

I don't mind the role splitting as much as I think they have it backwards...

I don't know...we're 2-0...and neither of these backs are going to do much until Cassel makes other teams start respecting our passing game...

and that isn't happening right now...so I'm just happy our defense is playing so well.

[The Bad Guy]

The offense isn't clicking because the QB sucks. The run game actually has been pretty good so far.

I don't know why this is even an issue to be honest.

[keg in kc]

The run blocking has been above average through two games.I don't think it's even been average, and the per-carry totals would bear that out, but I think that's more attributable to the lack of a passing game than to the line.

[-King-]

Says that Mo Carthon was yelling at Charles up and down the sideline and went out of his way to embarrass Jamaal Charles.

Says after that, Jamaal Charles sat by himself and didn't talk to coaches and teammates.

[-King-]

Somehow Nick Wright has tied this with McKinley committing suicide.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Ugh.

Apparently, Charles was upset he was coming off the field, and Carthon said (paraphrasing) "Your a backup RB and you have no right to get upset, because your a backup. Backups come off the field."

[Coogs]

I don't mind the role splitting as much as I think they have it backwards...

I don't know...we're 2-0...and neither of these backs are going to do much until Cassel makes other teams start respecting our passing game...

and that isn't happening right now...so I'm just happy our defense is playing so well.

This

[OnTheWarpath15]

Making a pretty good point about how Cassel is treated differently than the rest of the team.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Unnamed player:

"I felt badly for him (Jamaal)."

[Coogs]

Unnamed player:

"I felt badly for him (Jamaal)."


As do I right now.

[nychief]

wait. a coach yelled at a player at practice? no fucking way.

[Red Dawg]

If any of this is true Haley should be canned. If JC asked to be traded and is being yelled at for wanting the ball then Haley should be canned.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Gee, I wonder why Carthon has been punted out of his coordinator jobs by player mutinies. :facepalm:

[Donger]

BTW, does anyone have a link to this week's TV coverage maps? That 506 link doesn't work today.

Thanks.

[Donger]

BTW, does anyone have a link to this week's TV coverage maps? That 506 link doesn't work today.

Thanks.

[Tribal Warfare]

Says that Mo Carthon was yelling at Charles up and down the sideline and went out of his way to embarrass Jamaal Charles.

Says after that, Jamaal Charles sat by himself and didn't talk to coaches and teammates.

ain't that fuckin peachy, KC's only legitimate offensive weapon is starting to wane because of the teams actions. Brilliant!!!!!!! Now Cassel will get assraped on every passing play because they won't believe in the play-action fake.

[Hootie]

I wonder what people are going to bitch about when we're 3-0 heading into our BYE week?

[Marcellus]

JFC that guy is annoying. How do you guys listen to him?

I am not talking about what he is saying I am talking about his voice and his delivery.

[OnTheWarpath15]

As do I right now.

Yep.

Dude's done nothing but perform at an elite level, and be professional while losing his touches - and gets treated like shit by the coaching staff - according to other players.

Meanwhile, Cassel can yell and scream at the staff, play like shit, and has the coaching staff blaming WR's for his shitty throws.

Sounds like JC was dressed down pretty roughly.

[Coogs]

wait. a coach yelled at a player at practice? no fucking way.

I think this was at Cleveland.

[DaneMcCloud]

I don't think it's even been average, and the per-carry totals would bear that out, but I think that's more attributable to the lack of a passing game than to the line.

Thomas Jones is averaging nearly 4 yards a carry and Jamaal Charles more than 6 yards a carry.

The run blocking is fine, especially since the Chiefs are consistently facing 8 men in the box, daring Cassel to throw on them.

If The QB could consistently throw the ball effectively, the rushing numbers would be much, much higher.

Again, I haven't seen anything in the rush blocking that has me concerned in the least. The pass blocking was very good against Cleveland as well.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I think this was at Cleveland.

Yep. During the game, on the sideline.

[Hootie]

I don't like the fact Cassel sucks...and I don't like the fact Charles isn't getting 70% of the touches in the running game...

but we're 2-0...

DJ is playing like an all-pro...

Flowers is playing like a DPOY...

and our defense looks great...

and really...our most talented defender (Berry) has been our biggest liability so far...

Imagine in a year or two when we REALLY mature...

I like our foundation...

I'd love to see us make a play for Vick in the offseason but I doubt it happens.

[chiefsnorth]

LJ didn't have to worry about getting his carries.

He had to worry about the sheep who listen to kc sports radio.

Those sheep sure are eating their words now that he's in Washington tearing it up.

[nychief]

I think this was at Cleveland.

really? Why is it just now being reported? JC was carrying the ball during the last drive? I'm confused.

[nychief]

Yep. During the game, on the sideline.



thanks.

[FAX]

Holy Homo Halfback Hugs!!!

Charles was yelled at by a coach? Stop the presses!!! This is news!!!

FAX

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

did anyone dvr the game nick said u can see it on jamel face when he came out was after a 3 and 6 play

[DaneMcCloud]

Says that Mo Carthon was yelling at Charles up and down the sideline and went out of his way to embarrass Jamaal Charles.


Just more proof of what I've been saying since the fucking day he was hired:

Maurice Carthon is a motherfucking dick.

Do you people believe me now?

[Hug it Out Dan]

OMGWTF?!!!!!

Chris Johnson had 34 yards on 16 carries this past Sunday!!! The Titans are in danger of losing him as he's unhappy with one Sunday's results.

The Titans are committed to Johnson running the ball, he had only 16 carries becaue the PIT run defense is stout and was heavy on stopping the run and letting VY beat them.

The Chiefs on the other hand, wanna do the RBBC. Haley loves Thomas Jones more than anyone on this team it seems like and he's favored over Charles. Not getting Charles the ball until the 3rd or 4th series in the MNF game is UNACCEPTABLE, PERIOD. He's our best offensive weapon on a team that has very few of them. Then look what happens when he got the ball, he only ran for a 60 yard TD. why he doesn't get the ball more is just baffling to me.

Esp after he performed like the 2nd best RB in the AFC last season, after running for nearly 1000 yds in only 9 games, breaking out long TD runs. He's a hell of a weapon running behind a suspect Oline, though this season it's been better.

IMO, if Haley and the Chiefs don't want to use Charles, he should go elsewhere to a team that wants to use him. And if that happens, you can mark that down right next to trading Jared Allen and letting Rich Gannon walk as one of this franchise's dumbest moves ever.

[OnTheWarpath15]

JFC that guy is annoying. How do you guys listen to him?

I am not talking about what he is saying I am talking about his voice and his delivery.

Yeah, his voice is grating.

But you have to have your head in the sand to hear what he just said over the past 20 minutes and ignore it, and some here will.

[King_Chief_Fan]

getnickwright The #Chiefs are bordering on losing Jamaal Charles... which could lose them the lockerroom... I have the story... I'll explain at 2 sharp

are we going to believe this hack? Anyone catch the 2:00 sharp explanation?

[DaneMcCloud]

Holy Homo Halfback Hugs!!!

Charles was yelled at by a coach? Stop the presses!!! This is news!!!

FAX

Why does Charles deserve to be "dressed down" by anyone, let alone, Maurice Carthon?

He has a history of this type of behavior in both Cleveland and Detroit.

He's a piece of shit.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

did anyone dvr the game nick said u can see it on jamel face when he came out was after a 3 and 6 play???????????????

[Hootie]

Yeah, his voice is grating.

But you have to have your head in the sand to hear what he just said over the past 20 minutes and ignore it, and some here will.

:banghead:

I know it's hard for you with the Chiefs being 2-0 and all...

but there are $$$$$$$$$'s of reasons why this won't be a distraction for KC or Charles.

Nick Wright is just trying to make a name for himself, clearly.

but you hate Pioli too much to be objective...go figure

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did anyone dvr the game nick said u can see it on jamel face when he came out was after a 3 and 6 play???????????????

System Error. Try again with punctuation.

[BigMeatballDave]

The offense is stagnant, and our best player is getting 12 touches a game.

We're not winning because of this decision, we're winning in spite of it.That is correct. However, since Matt sucks so bad, and cannot sustain drives, they cannot get into rhythm. When nothing else is working on our O, and then we stick JC in, the O becomes predictable.

[FAX]

So, there's no possibility of an ... oh, what do you call it? ... overreaction?

Guys, last year we were going to lose DJ and Bowe ... according to the local media, Haley had alienated both those guys to the point they might consider leaving football forever and start a day care business together.

Charles wants the ball. That's a good thing. None of this is worth the time to get upset about.

FAX

[FAX]

Why does Charles deserve to be "dressed down" by anyone, let alone, Maurice Carthon?

He has a history of this type of behavior in both Cleveland and Detroit.

He's a piece of shit.

I'm not suggesting he isn't. But there's no crying in football.

FAX

[Hootie]

So, there's no possibility of an ... oh, what do you call it? ... overreaction?

Guys, last year we were going to lose DJ and Bowe ... according to the local media, Haley had alienated both those guys to the point they might consider leaving football forever and start a day care business together.

Charles wants the ball. That's a good thing. None of this is worth the time to get upset about.

FAX

FAX

...the voice of reason

[KCUnited]

Nick Wright is the same guy that said it wasn't Tony Mitchell's fault that he never went to class. He's a bleeding heart players advocate because a few of them let him lurch around when they're at the club.

[Brock]

Listening to that guy was the worst 15 minutes I've had this year.

[DaneMcCloud]

But there's no crying in football.

FAX

Unfortunately, there's plenty of crying in football these days.

Guys all over the league whine, complain and cry about their lack of touches or the amount of money they're paid. I think it's more common for skill players to cry than not.

This isn't your father's NFL.

[Hootie]

It's just the drafturbators trying their best to bash on Pioli & Co. some since we're 2-0 and they can't have their usual 0-2 field day where they muddy up the board with their rimjob sessions towards one another and their "I told you so" threads!

BUT IT'S MY TURN FOR THAT THIS YEAR

MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[OnTheWarpath15]

That is correct. However, since Matt sucks so bad, and cannot sustain drives, they cannot get into rhythm. When nothing else is working on our O, and then we stick JC in, the O becomes predictable.

And who's fault is that?

Remember on MNF when we took ourselves out of FG range because we ran a sprint-draw play on two consecutive plays and lost a shit-ton of yards?

The O is predictable because Weis is allowing it to become predictable.

If JC is in the game, you can predict with 90% certainty that it's a draw or pitch.

That wasn't the case last year.

[Dayze]

I wonder if he'd reply on air if someone texted him "NICK....your and idiot"

[DaneMcCloud]

It's just the drafturbators trying their best to bash on Pioli & Co. some since we're 2-0 and they can't have their usual 0-2 field day where they muddy up the board with their rimjob sessions towards one another and their "I told you so" threads!

BUT IT'S MY TURN FOR THAT THIS YEAR

MUAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Nick Wright's a drafturbator?

[the Talking Can]

So, there's no possibility of an ... oh, what do you call it? ... overreaction?

Guys, last year we were going to lose DJ and Bowe ... according to the local media, Haley had alienated both those guys to the point they might consider leaving football forever and start a day care business together.

Charles wants the ball. That's a good thing. None of this is worth the time to get upset about.

FAX

DJ had under performed for years...he was deservedly on the verge of being cut

Bowe was a clown who cared more about showboating than working


Are you saying either thing is true of Charles?

what I saw was a player who dominated the league at his position for 8 games and then was made a backup to a player with half his speed and half his yards per carry....

I'd honestly like to know what you think Charles had done to deserve this?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Regardless of what extrapolations you want to take from this incident, two things are clear:

1) Charles should be getting more touches than Jones because he's a clearly superior player
2) Maurice Carthon is a fucking tool.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Stupid fan call #1.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Regardless of what extrapolations you want to take from this incident, two things are clear:

1) Charles should be getting more touches than Jones because he's a clearly superior player
2) Maurice Carthon is a fucking tool.

Yep.

[BigMeatballDave]

I'd love to see us make a play for Vick in the offseason but I doubt it happens.We already have a QB that can't complete passes above 60%. Why would you want another?

[King_Chief_Fan]

And who's fault is that?

Remember on MNF when we took ourselves out of FG range because we ran a sprint-draw play on two consecutive plays and lost a shit-ton of yards?

The O is predictable because Weis is allowing it to become predictable.

If JC is in the game, you can predict with 90% certainty that it's a draw or pitch.

That wasn't the case last year.

soooo, if Charles is in, the other team knows exactly what is going to happen....sooo, we want Charles in more??:D

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I'd like to know why people think that Michael Vick is the answer to this team's problems.

Better than Cassel doesn't mean you are good enough.

[FAX]

Unfortunately, there's plenty of crying in football these days.

Guys all over the league whine, complain and cry about their lack of touches or the amount of money they're paid. I think it's more common for skill players to cry than not.

This isn't your father's NFL.

ROFL

Yeah.

Look, Charles wants in the game. He wants the ball. He wants a big pay day. That's a real good thing. Carthon's a prick ... that's a bad thing. There isn't much more to this deal than that.

Now, you can choose to debate whether a player should nut it up and make the most of his opportunities or listen to the KC media construct a "big story" out of nothing atypical in the league, that's your choice. Personally, I have no interest in arguing over the amount of whining that takes place in the NFL. I'm not sure it's a measurable statistic.

I'd hate to see Charles play for Belichick ... damn, he'd probably go through a dozen crying towels a week.

Meanwhile, Charles will get his touches this year.

FAX

[FAX]

DJ had under performed for years...he was deservedly on the verge of being cut

Bowe was a clown who cared more about showboating than working


Are you saying either thing is true of Charles?

what I saw was a player who dominated the league at his position for 8 games and then was made a backup to a player with half his speed and half his yards per carry....

I'd honestly like to know what you think Charles had done to deserve this?

No ... I'm not comparing "players", Mr. the Talking Can.

I'm comparing the media's approach to the stories. Remember how everybody was talking about DJ last year being demoted ... along with Bowe? And how Haley was losing the team as a result?

FAX

[Brock]

I'd like to know why people think that Michael Vick is the answer to this team's problems.

Better than Cassel doesn't mean you are good enough.

To me, Vick looks much, much better than Cassel.

[BigMeatballDave]

And who's fault is that?

Remember on MNF when we took ourselves out of FG range because we ran a sprint-draw play on two consecutive plays and lost a shit-ton of yards?

The O is predictable because Weis is allowing it to become predictable.

If JC is in the game, you can predict with 90% certainty that it's a draw or pitch.

That wasn't the case last year.I havent been pleased with Weis' playcalling, but until Cassel sacks up and plays like starting QB, I will always blame him.

[Donger]

So, there's no possibility of an ... oh, what do you call it? ... overreaction?

Guys, last year we were going to lose DJ and Bowe ... according to the local media, Haley had alienated both those guys to the point they might consider leaving football forever and start a day care business together.

Charles wants the ball. That's a good thing. None of this is worth the time to get upset about.

FAX

ChiefsPlanet's Very Own Wallace H. Hartley Equivalent.

[Jerm]

JFC first Petro and now Nick Wright...:facepalm:

Nah we can't talk about how the team is 2-0 with a real possibility of being 3-0 heading into their bye week...we have to stir shit.

Sports radio in K.C. is such a fucking joke.

[the Talking Can]

No ... I'm not comparing "players", Mr. the Talking Can.

I'm comparing the media's approach to the stories. Remember how everybody was talking about DJ last year being demoted ... along with Bowe? And how Haley was losing the team as a result?

FAX

ah...

[Mr. Plow]

How someone like JC who is averaging over 6 yards a carry is playing second fiddle is beyond me.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

To me, Vick looks much, much better than Cassel.

I know everyone wants to win a Super Bowl yesterday, but you aren't doing it with Vick as your QB. We don't get to pass "Go" until we get a franchise QB.

[BigMeatballDave]

To me, Vick looks much, much better than Cassel.He does. But is that really good enough?

[sedated]

ratings baby, ratings.

[Jerm]

How someone like JC who is averaging over 6 yards a carry is playing second fiddle is beyond me.

Maybe I'm the only one that sees it this way but I think they wanted to give Jones a majority of the carries in hopes of being 2-1, 3-0, or something like that heading into the bye and then they would ride Charles in the second half of the year...didn't want to burn him out.

A calculated gamble perhaps.

[FAX]

I'd honestly like to know what you think Charles had done to deserve this?

As for what Charles has done to deserve this? I have no idea. I don't know that he's done anything. None of us know.

The whole "use of Charles" thing is a mystery to me. I thought he'd have more touches in Cleveland and posted comments to that effect after the game. There's something going on behind the scenes on this deal that I don't understand.

Still, I can't see a guy who averages 5 yards a touch not getting his opportunities. What I do know is that I won't base my opinions on Nick Wright's vacuous blathering and speculation, though.

FAX

[Demonpenz]

We are going to use charles more and people are going talk about how "right" they were, when it was apart of the plan all along. Don't need to unleash the big dog just yet.

[Mr. Plow]

Maybe I'm the only one that sees it this way but I think they wanted to give Jones a majority of the carries in hopes of being 2-1, 3-0, or something like that heading into the bye and then they would ride Charles in the second half of the year...didn't want to burn him out.

A calculated gamble perhaps.

Very possible. Never really thought of it like that. But, if that is what they were doing, I would of thought that they would have covered that with both the players (Charles/Jones).....maybe not though.

[Brock]

He does. But is that really good enough?

I'm not a huge Vick fan or anything, but I'll answer that this way. With Vick playing the Eagles could conceivably win a playoff game, with Kolb they won't make the playoffs.

[DMAC]

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/media/2/jack_lol.gif

[Marcellus]

Controversy sells. It sure would be nice to know where the info is coming from.

Probably Croyle LMAO.

[beach tribe]

This is retarded. Re-fucking-tarded. That is all.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Coaches aren't looking 5 games down the road, they are trying to win today. This isn't a part of some grand strategy.

It's the front office who usually executes "visionary" thinking. That's why most coaches prefer to play vets. It helps them that day.

[DaneMcCloud]

Meanwhile, Charles will get his touches this year.

FAX

I sure hope so. These guys certainly tend to fall in love with under-performing players (O'C, Goff, etc.).

We all saw in preseason that TJ was starting and everyone said "Oh, it's just preseason". Now, two weeks into the season, TJ is STILL starting and seeing more touches than Charles. Something's amiss.

And I wish Mo Carthon would go fuck himself. I hated that hire the day it was announced and STILL hate it.

[Hug it Out Dan]

He does. But is that really good enough?

well if he can truly be an effective passer now, then yes he can be that good. teams used to have to just worry about his legs while in ATL, because he was horribly inaccurate. There was never a question about his arm strength, the guy has a hand cannon. But now it seems that he's gotten a lot better with his passing, he's still the fastest QB in the league and is a great athlete. I think Reid is retarded for not starting him over Kolb. If he can run for 6-7 yds or so (maybe more) when things break down, then yes he's a huge threat.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

I dont know if Jamaal Charles actually updates it, but Jamaal Charles wrote on his facebook fan page "Thomas Jones=Spoiled" on Monday.

[Hootie]

why is Mike Vick the answer you ask?

because of players like Charles and McCluster...

do you remember what he did for Dunn? Duckett?

Seriously...

Charles and Vick tandem would be like THE SUPER VERSION of Vince Young and Chris Johnson...

We would break every single season rushing record and it wouldn't be close...

Vick/Charles/McCluster and Jones? Holy shit...

I mean...our pass would be like a change up to that crazy ass ground attack. Think of the possibilities?

If our defense develops into a top tier unit which I think it can...

Vick, in my eyes, has three more top tier years...or at least he could...and we could be a Super Bowl contender...

I mean...Vick looks every bit as good as he ever did right now...people forget...he WON GAMES...he was a WINNER in the NFL...I think Jim Mora was TERRIBLE for him...

They tried to turn him into a pocket passer...it made no sense. Vick was really blossoming with Dan Reeves before his injury...and now he's had a complete reality check...he's fighting for that one last chance...

and damn, he looks GOOD this year...

and team him with our dynamic backfield...

I'm not saying we could beat the Colts...but damn...we'd be a top 3 AFC team I think...or we'd have that potential...

and all it takes is a good bounce or two when you're a top team.

[DaneMcCloud]

I dont know if Jamaal Charles actually updates it, but Jamaal Charles wrote on his facebook fan page "Thomas Jones=Spoiled" on Monday.

Link?

[-King-]

Link?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Link?

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024?ref=ts

[YayMike]

JFC first Petro and now Nick Wright...:facepalm:

Nah we can't talk about how the team is 2-0 with a real possibility of being 3-0 heading into their bye week...we have to stir shit.

Sports radio in K.C. is such a ****ing joke.

It's not just in KC. Here in Baltimore they are talking about benching Joe Flacco for Marc Bulger LMAO

Talk radio is designed to stir up crap

[Mr. Arrowhead]

It's not just in KC. Here in Baltimore they are talking about benching Joe Flacco for Marc Bulger LMAO

Talk radio is designed to stir up crap
or maybe we could offer them Cassel for Flacco

[DaneMcCloud]

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO:LOL::LOL::LOL::LOL:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024

Wow, if that's really Jamaal Charles, that is fucked up.

Thanks for the link.

[Chiefnj2]

I dont know if Jamaal Charles actually updates it, but Jamaal Charles wrote on his facebook fan page "Thomas Jones=Spoiled" on Monday.

Jamaal Charles likes referring to himself as Jamaal Charles.

[-King-]

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024?ref=ts

FWIW, that page is obviously fake.

[Hootie]

like that is real lol

[Hootie]

Wow, if that's really Jamaal Charles, that is ****ed up.

Thanks for the link.

wow dude

how gullable are you?!

that's not him...haha

[wasi]

Maybe if the team was 0-2 and Charles wasn't getting carries I could see Haley losing the team.. not now.

Gameplan for Cleveland called for Jones (as per Haley). Probably due to the 3-4 defense which is best to attack between the tackles were Jones is stronger. Also not many draw plays called which seems to be Charles' bread and butter.

Unfortunately, 49ers are 3-4 also but much more aggressive. Hard to know what the gameplan will be but I hope Charles see's more plays to slow down the blitz.

[-King-]

Wow, if that's really Jamaal Charles, that is fucked up.

Thanks for the link.

Jamaal Charles: this sunday cant wait to see jamaal rip it up against bronco defense and get to see flowers get some interceptions and see tyson and dorsey get some sacks and hali to get some tackles make denver not go to the playoffs sunday is huge

Jamaal Charles: if jamaal would have started at the first of the season he would have made the pro bowl and been just as good as chris johnson

;)

[KCbroncoHATER]

If he can get all the other radio guys to start talking about they will get all the sheep in line and demand that Charles plays more.

Then the coaching staff will cave in to public demand (like they did with LJ) and look foolish again.

I have seen this before.

[-King-]

wow dude

how gullable are you?!

that's not him...haha

LMAOLMAOLMAO This is the funniest shit Dane has ever done/said.

[Mr. Plow]

http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024?ref=ts (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#%21/pages/Jamaal-Charles/197232568024?ref=ts)


I don't think it's him....unless he really talks like "if jamaal would have started at the first of the season he would have made the pro bowl and been just as good as chris johnson".



"Jimmy gonna slam dunk"....."Jimmy is angry with Kramer"......"Jimmy is going to punch Kramer".....



EDIT: Fuck me I'm slow.....

[Chiefnj2]

Which leads to the question of whether they are taking it easy on him early on with the shoulder thing he had to recover from this offseason...

Impossible. Haley, Pioli, Weis and Carthon are all bumbling idiots.

[Dayze]

Wow, if that's really Jamaal Charles, that is fucked up.

Thanks for the link.

well played Dane.:clap:

[RockChalk]

Well that hour was one big waste of time. At least it confirmed to me that both Nick Wright and 610 suck.

So Charles was yelled at during a game? Then he was reportedly sulking after the game? OH NOES!!!! Obviously it means he wants out. And if he goes, the whole team will stop following Haley and go wherever Charles goes.

Again, we learned at 2pm today what we already knew. Nick Wright is and idiot.

[DaneMcCloud]

wow dude

how gullable are you?!

that's not him...haha

I'm not exactly a teenager that spends all my time on Facebook, which is why I qualified my statement.

[Hootie]

LMAOLMAOLMAO This is the funniest shit Dane has ever done/said.

almost as funny as that one time the Chargers were going to storm into Arrowhead on MNF season opener and win by 30+

[RockChalk]

'

[the Talking Can]

that facebook page is as real as hootie's gambling skill...

[nychief]

Did Nick Wright actually speak to JC? Or is this another interpretation of video by a slack jawed sports radio wonk....

[Johnny Vegas]

this is out of Charles character. He doesn't even seem the type to demand a bj.

[Hootie]

that facebook page is as real as hootie's gambling skill...

burn!!!!!!

[Hootie]

I'm not exactly a teenager that spends all my time on Facebook, which is why I qualified my statement.

it took me 20 seconds, max, to have enough common sense to realize that wasn't Jamaal Charles...

so excuse me if I tend to give someone of your genious a little credit here and there

['Hamas' Jenkins]

why is Mike Vick the answer you ask?

because of players like Charles and McCluster...

do you remember what he did for Dunn? Duckett?

Seriously...

Charles and Vick tandem would be like THE SUPER VERSION of Vince Young and Chris Johnson...

We would break every single season rushing record and it wouldn't be close...

Vick/Charles/McCluster and Jones? Holy shit...

I mean...our pass would be like a change up to that crazy ass ground attack. Think of the possibilities?

If our defense develops into a top tier unit which I think it can...

Vick, in my eyes, has three more top tier years...or at least he could...and we could be a Super Bowl contender...

I mean...Vick looks every bit as good as he ever did right now...people forget...he WON GAMES...he was a WINNER in the NFL...I think Jim Mora was TERRIBLE for him...

They tried to turn him into a pocket passer...it made no sense. Vick was really blossoming with Dan Reeves before his injury...and now he's had a complete reality check...he's fighting for that one last chance...

and damn, he looks GOOD this year...

and team him with our dynamic backfield...

I'm not saying we could beat the Colts...but damn...we'd be a top 3 AFC team I think...or we'd have that potential...

and all it takes is a good bounce or two when you're a top team.

Take an Ativan, because you are tripping balls.

He went 8-6-1 his only full year starting with Reeves.

His first year under Mora he went 11-4.

He also ran for more yards under Mora per season than he did for Reeves.

[nychief]

that facebook page is as real as hootie's gambling skill...


as real as gochief's girlfriend.

[-King-]

almost as funny as that one time the Chargers were going to storm into Arrowhead on MNF season opener and win by 30+

Or when he said Mathews would have 220 yards.

Then after the game I called him out and he called me a dumbass and said that he had actually said 120.

Then I posted the quote and somehow he "missed" my post.

[Saccopoo]

The Chiefs on the other hand, wanna do the RBBC. Haley loves Thomas Jones more than anyone on this team it seems like and he's favored over Charles. Not getting Charles the ball until the 3rd or 4th series in the MNF game is UNACCEPTABLE, PERIOD. He's our best offensive weapon on a team that has very few of them. Then look what happens when he got the ball, he only ran for a 60 yard TD. why he doesn't get the ball more is just baffling to me.

Because he's 5'10" and 190 lbs. Defenses are solid, fresh and ahead of the offenses this time of year. Because he's coming off a shoulder injury. Because you don't piss away a guy with that much talent in a rebuild mode, which the Chiefs are.

I'm pretty sure that the Chiefs coaching staff understands that Jones is on the wrong side of 30, especially for a running back, and understand Charles' talents but frailty (to a certain degree).

I'm sure that they also understand the limitations of Cassel and the offensive line. There's no way that they can't. They are also trying to work in McCluster and Moeaki to the offense while integrating both backs.

Last season it was Charles and nobody else. This year there are three new players who have the potential to contribute. If you want a balanced offensive team, it can't be just one guy or you end up with the Barry Sanders Lions.

IMO, if Haley and the Chiefs don't want to use Charles, he should go elsewhere to a team that wants to use him. And if that happens, you can mark that down right next to trading Jared Allen and letting Rich Gannon walk as one of this franchise's dumbest moves ever.

They want to use Charles. They don't want to overuse him. Charles does have the talent to be the featured back and carry for 30 times a game. But that doesn't help the team in the long run, especially in this day and age of the NFL.

If Carthon did actually try to dress down Charles in an effort to try and motivate him, it's then on Weis and Haley to make sure that the perceived slight is addressed and everyone moves on. That's why you have a hierarchy in coaching, business, whatever. I'm sure this is already a non-issue in the locker room seeing how Charles has been the consummate team player and Haley seems to have a better finger on the pulse of the team.

[kysirsoze]

Look, I'm happy we're 2-0. Ecstatic. But 2 wins where the offense was that ugly, will not lead to the playoffs. I know we have a ways to go till we're a legitimate contender, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't be doing everything we can to win a superbowl with the players we have.

Bottom line is we would likely be 0-2 if we had nice weather on Monday night and played even an average team in week 2. If our offense was more effective, though, we would have not only won those games, but they wouldn't have been close. Jamaal Charles is clearly the key to igniting our offense and making life easier on our inadequate QB.

[Hootie]

Take an Ativan, because you are tripping balls.

He went 8-6-1 his only full year starting with Reeves.

His first year under Mora he went 11-4.

He also ran for more yards under Mora per season than he did for Reeves.

I'm talking about 2002...

I remember thinking wow...Vick is going to be SPECIAL!

and then he got injured the following year and they fired Reeves...and he never developed under Mora like I expected....

Anyways...

You team him with someone as dynamic as a Jamaal Charles or Chris Johnson and HOLY SHIT...

That might be the next best thing to a Philip Rivers...something that WON'T be available next season...

Vick has shown he can win football games...he may not put up the prettiest stat lines but he's such a mess for opposing teams to gameplan for...

Give him a good defense and a great rushing attack and he could win 12-13 games..no doubt...

and once you get in the playoffs and have that home crowd...who knows?

[Titty Meat]

Whitlocks ratings must not have been enough.

[Hootie]

Bottom line is we would likely be 0-2 if we had nice weather on Monday night and played even an average team in week 2.

Bullshit man. Bullshit.

That's the NFL.

It takes a bounce or two, or convenient weather...etc. etc. etc. to win every single week.

We're due for the bounces to go our way for once.

[Chiefnj2]

Jamaal Charles is really happy for you, Thomas Jones, Imma let you finish but Jamaal Charles had one of the best seasons of all time.

[Hootie]

Mike Florio, who I don't give a shit about, has the Chiefs as #12 in the power rankings this week.

Dubbed them the "Overachiefers."

[The Bad Guy]

Mike Florio, who I don't give a shit about, has the Chiefs as #12 in the power rankings this week.

Dubbed them the "Overachiefers."

Fox Sports has them at 10.

[kysirsoze]

Bullshit man. Bullshit.

That's the NFL.

It takes a bounce or two, or convenient weather...etc. etc. etc. to win every single week.

We're due for the bounces to go our way for once.

You're right, sometimes that's how teams win. I am happy to get those wins when we can. But I want a team that also wins due to being better than the other team. I think the proper use of Charles would help a lot with that.

[The Bad Guy]

You would honestly think Philip Rivers played every game of his life indoors with the way people want to make this rain out to be the only reason the Chiefs won.

[The Bad Guy]

You're right, sometimes that's how teams win. I am happy to get those wins when we can. But I want a team that also wins due to being better than the other team. I think the proper use of Charles would help a lot with that.

Yep. We win 10 games in 3 years and now fans want to score style points in all wins.

[Hootie]

You're right, sometimes that's how teams win. I am happy to get those wins when we can. But I want a team that also wins due to being better than the other team. I think the proper use of Charles would help a lot with that.

I agree with the notion that we "stole" a victory from San Diego...even though we shelled up in the 2nd half and basically decided Rivers was going to beat us, or our defense was going to beat Rivers.

However...

We are clearly a superior team to Cleveland...they got a gift TD on an illegal contact call...and we made one big mistake on a great playcall...

but other than that...our offense outplayed their offense...and our defense outplayed their defense...

and we were on the road.

[Hootie]

You would honestly think Philip Rivers played every game of his life indoors with the way people want to make this rain out to be the only reason the Chiefs won.

The Mathews fumble was a HUGE momentum shift...just like the Charles run and the McCluster punt return...

we play that game 10 times...I think we win 3.5 times. I can't decide between 3 or 4 so I went with 3.5.

[Marcellus]

I am fairly sure JC's sped will be the only way we get any rushing yards against SF. That defense is fast.

[kysirsoze]

Mike Florio, who I don't give a shit about, has the Chiefs as #12 in the power rankings this week.

Dubbed them the "Overachiefers."

ESPN has them at 20 behind two 0-2 teams. :rolleyes:

[OnTheWarpath15]

Yep. We win 10 games in 3 years and now fans want to score style points in all wins.

That's bullshit, and you know it.

No one gives a shit about "style points," but they do worry about being able to win this way consistently.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm happy as hell we're 2-0. But I'm not naive enough to think we can expect to win behind defense and special teams every fucking week.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Yep. We win 10 games in 3 years and now fans want to score style points in all wins.

well put

[kysirsoze]

Yep. We win 10 games in 3 years and now fans want to score style points in all wins.

FFS Way to miss the point. I could give a shit about style points. The fact remains that we could be a better team with Charles being used properly. We won't always get the lucky breaks and when we don't I'd like us to still have a shot at winning.

[Hootie]

yeah OTWP, you seem thrilled!!!!!!1

[kysirsoze]

That's bullshit, and you know it.

No one gives a shit about "style points," but they do worry about being able to win this way consistently.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm happy as hell we're 2-0. But I'm not naive enough to think we can expect to win behind defense and special teams every ****ing week.

exactly

[keg in kc]

This is the planet, aren't you supposed to say "Chiefs in danger of loosing Charles"?

[kysirsoze]

I agree with the notion that we "stole" a victory from San Diego...even though we shelled up in the 2nd half and basically decided Rivers was going to beat us, or our defense was going to beat Rivers.

However...

We are clearly a superior team to Cleveland...they got a gift TD on an illegal contact call...and we made one big mistake on a great playcall...

but other than that...our offense outplayed their offense...and our defense outplayed their defense...

and we were on the road.

I completely agree. And if we never had to face an opponent better than Cleveland then I would say, "leave well enough alone." Unfortunately that is not the case.

[kysirsoze]

This is the planet, aren't you supposed to say "Chiefs in danger of loosing Charles"?

Well I suppose a few members of our coaching staff think it's dangerous to let Charles "loose" but I'm OK with it. ;)

[booger]

if shaun smith catches him nick wright will be in danger of losing his marbles

[The Bad Guy]

That's bullshit, and you know it.

No one gives a shit about "style points," but they do worry about being able to win this way consistently.

Contrary to popular belief, I'm happy as hell we're 2-0. But I'm not naive enough to think we can expect to win behind defense and special teams every ****ing week.

I'm not either. I'm also not expecting the offense to fucking blow every week either.

I'll worry about 3 weeks from now in 3 weeks, but right now i will just enjoy wins because when we were 2-14 I said I don't give a shit how we win.

I meant to ask you for my packing purposes, what are the odds you get that jersey back tomorrow? I'll just have to pack an extra shirt for the game if not. No rush. I'll be happy whenever I get it.

[The Bad Guy]

FFS Way to miss the point. I could give a shit about style points. The fact remains that we could be a better team with Charles being used properly. We won't always get the lucky breaks and when we don't I'd like us to still have a shot at winning.

We could be a better team if our QB could actually throw a downfield pass too.

I'm not missing any point. I'll enjoy the wins as they come and not keep focusing on weeks from now when the Chiefs might be 4-3, 3-4 or 2-5.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I'm not either. I'm also not expecting the offense to fucking blow every week either.

I'll worry about 3 weeks from now in 3 weeks, but right now i will just enjoy wins because when we were 2-14 I said I don't give a shit how we win.

I meant to ask you for my packing purposes, what are the odds you get that jersey back tomorrow? I'll just have to pack an extra shirt for the game if not. No rush. I'll be happy whenever I get it.

And that's where we differ.

As long as JC is only getting 12 touches, I fully expect the offense to blow every week - especially considering we did nothing against the worst defense we'll face all year.

And regarding the jersey, I'm waiting for a call back. When are you leaving?