ESPN RE-Draft 2006, 2007, 2008

[Ugly Duck]

ESPN rearranges the players to the spots they should have been drafted.

Broncos came in 5th by drafting players way below their value with a score of +206.
Chiefs came in #9 with a score of +59.
Chargers were #21 at -159
Raiders #26 at -283. Jabbarcus alone dropped Oakland 254 spots.

"LSU quarterback JaMarcus Russell
may have gone first in the first 2007 draft,
but at the Official Re-Draft his phone never rings."
http://a.espncdn.com/i/headshots/nfl/players/65/10446.jpg

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6528474

[ILChief]

Interesting article. They really don't like branden Albert. He pretty much negates the gain from Brandon Carr.

[notorious]

That's really paying off for the Broncos.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Did they include the hiring of Josh McDaniels in their evaluation ?

[Fritz88]

Cutler should drop at least 10 spots.

And fucking Peyton Hillis moved to 6th overall? They must have believed that whole EA sports nonsense.

[Hoover]

So the Broncos are the worse run team because they are the best drafters EVER but trade them all for peanuts.

I also think these things devalue Oline picks because they don't put up individual starts. I'm fine with Albert, especially knowing that we nailed it when we drafter Hali, Carr, Flowers, Charles, and Bowe.

You will not see me crying in my milk after reading this.

[Bump]

they would re-draft Brad Smith in the first, really?

[hunter121]

really paying off for the Broncos

[Buck]

Peyton Hillis was worth +221 of that +206

ROFL

[whoman69]

This is why I hate the statement that you can't see the results of a draft until later. Of course if you have a time machine you could make the perfect draft. Sure Elvis Dumervil seems like a great value pick at 126, but it would have been stupid to draft him at #10 in 2006 when he would have still been available in the 4th round even though he has first round talent.

Even in hind sight some of their reasoning is pretty incredible. They're slotted by how they are in 2011. Running backs often times have short careers. Laurence Maroney had a pretty good career but doesn't have much left in the tank. Does that truly mean he should not have been drafted?

[Brock]

Even in hind sight some of their reasoning is pretty incredible. They're slotted by how they are in 2011. Running backs often times have short careers. Laurence Maroney had a pretty good career but doesn't have much left in the tank. Does that truly mean he should not have been drafted?

Laurence Maroney shouldn't have been drafted.

[whoman69]

Laurence Maroney shouldn't have been drafted.

Really? 4.1 yard average on a team that had more than 500 passing attempts every year of his career? The New England Patriots use the short passing game to control the ball and the run only to keep teams honest. I'd say he did about as well as anyone could ask of him in that spot.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Laurence Maroney is and always was a fucking terrible running back.

[notorious]

Laurence Maroney is and always was a ****ing terrible running back.


This.


It still blows my mind that he went first round. It's almost as bad as TJackson going number 3.


Maroney tore it up in college against the shittiest defensive conference in the nation. :facepalm: WTF was BB thinking?

[Okie_Apparition]

:) / YouKnow

[Ugly Duck]

Peyton Hillis was worth +221 of that +206

ROFL

I didn't notice that! Maybe they should adjust for the fact that Denver traded Hillis for Brady Quinn...

http://coedbc.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/2068633069_08aa59b0451.jpg

[teedubya]

IMO Branden Albert is pretty decent... he is NOT 5th round talent as this redraft is suggesting.

[BigRock]

ESPN didn't do this, it's just a dumbass Rick Reilly column.

[Ebolapox]

brandon carr is a first rounder in a 2008 redraft, but brandon flowers isn't? that's fucktarded.

[Miles]

brandon carr is a first rounder in a 2008 redraft, but brandon flowers isn't? that's fucktarded.

Flowers is listed at #16.

[Ebolapox]

Flowers is listed at #16.

ROFL

nevermind. I was browsing quickly and saw carr, not flowers.

[veist]

Laurence Maroney is and always was a fucking terrible running back.

This, plus he has a glass vagina.

To the Reilly article, the thing that really highlights how bad he is at this is he pegged Albert at a 5th rounder in 2008 but Levi "turnstyle" Brown only got dropped to #32 in 2007.

[Mr. Laz]

brandon carr is a first rounder in a 2008 redraft, but brandon flowers isn't? that's ****tarded.
what's ****tarded is your ability to read

ROFL

[Ebolapox]

what's ****tarded is your ability to read

ROFL

dude, it's nice to see that you read the whole thread. I'd say your comprehension is on the low side, yeah?

[Mr. Laz]

<table id="redraft-team" class="tablehead redraft-table" style="display: table;" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="1"><tbody><tr><td colspan="6" class="redraft-hdr">

NFL Re-Draft
2006 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6528474#redraft-2006) | 2007 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6528474#redraft-2007) | 2008 (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6528474#redraft-2008) | Team Totals

</td> </tr> <tr class="colhead" align="right"> <td class="colhead-left" width="5%" align="left">Rank</td> <td class="colhead-left" width="30%" align="left">Team</td> <td class="colhead-left" width="30%" align="left">Plus/Minus</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">1</td> <td align="left">New Orleans Saints (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/no/new-orleans-saints)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">266</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">2</td> <td align="left">Tennessee Titans (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ten/tennessee-titans)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">244</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">3</td> <td align="left">Green Bay Packers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/gb/green-bay-packers)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">224</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">4</td> <td align="left">Indianapolis Colts (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ind/indianapolis-colts)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">223</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">5</td> <td align="left">Denver Broncos (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/den/denver-broncos)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">206</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">6</td> <td align="left">Minnesota Vikings (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/min/minnesota-vikings)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">139</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">7</td> <td align="left">New York Giants (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyg/new-york-giants)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">172</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">8</td> <td align="left">Baltimore Ravens (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/bal/baltimore-ravens)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">112</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">9</td> <td align="left">Kansas City Chiefs (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/kc/kansas-city-chiefs)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">67</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">10</td> <td align="left">Houston Texans (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/hou/houston-texans)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">58</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">11</td> <td align="left">Carolina Panthers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/car/carolina-panthers)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">53</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">12</td> <td align="left">Pittsburgh Steelers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/pit/pittsburgh-steelers)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">48</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">13</td> <td align="left">Tampa Bay Buccaneers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/tb/tampa-bay-buccaneers)</td> <td class="change-grn" align="left">2</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">14</td> <td align="left">Washington Redskins (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/wsh/washington-redskins)</td> <td align="left">0</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">15</td> <td align="left">Philadelphia Eagles (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/phi/philadelphia-eagles)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-6</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">16</td> <td align="left">Cincinnati Bengals (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cin/cincinnati-bengals)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-39</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">17</td> <td align="left">Chicago Bears (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/chi/chicago-bears)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-101</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">18</td> <td align="left">New York Jets (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/nyj/new-york-jets)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-101</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">19</td> <td align="left">Jacksonville Jaguars (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/jac/jacksonville-jaguars)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-104</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">20</td> <td align="left">Atlanta Falcons (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/atl/atlanta-falcons)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-134</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">21</td> <td align="left">San Diego Chargers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sd/san-diego-chargers)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-159</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">22</td> <td align="left">Arizona Cardinals (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ari/arizona-cardinals)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-192</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">23</td> <td align="left">New England Patriots (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/ne/new-england-patriots)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-231</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">24</td> <td align="left">Cleveland Browns (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/cle/cleveland-browns)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-234</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">25</td> <td align="left">Buffalo Bills (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/buf/buffalo-bills)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-273</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">26</td> <td align="left">Oakland Raiders (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/oak/oakland-raiders)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-283</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">27</td> <td align="left">Dallas Cowboys (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/dal/dallas-cowboys)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-292</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">28</td> <td align="left">Miami Dolphins (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/mia/miami-dolphins)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-309</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">29</td> <td align="left">Detroit Lions (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/det/detroit-lions)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-316</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">30</td> <td align="left">San Francisco 49ers (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sf/san-francisco-49ers)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-323</td> </tr> <tr class="evenrow" align="right"> <td align="left">31</td> <td align="left">St. Louis Rams (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/stl/st-louis-rams)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-351</td> </tr> <tr class="oddrow" align="right"> <td align="left">32</td> <td align="left">Seattle Seahawks (http://espn.go.com/nfl/team/_/name/sea/seattle-seahawks)</td> <td class="change-red" align="left">-377</td> </tr> </tbody></table>
And what do we learn from all this?

We learn that there's a reason the re-draft champions, the New Orleans Saints, have finally become a power. They stopped wasting first-round picks (their worst, WR Robert Meachem, only fell 44 spots) and they've found more bargains than Yelp (linemen Carl Nicks and Jahri Evans, to name two -- a combined +243 -- both of whom would be first-rounders now).

We learn that the Seattle Seahawks draft like the Iraqi navy. They're the re-draft chumps, with two first-round picks who fell 160 places or more: DE Lawrence Jackson (-167) and CB Kelly Jennings (-210).

We learn that one of the biggest thefts of those three years was the Denver Broncos' choice of RB Peyton Hillis, who jumped 221 places, from the seventh round to sixth overall. Hillis was like finding the crown jewels in a Goodwill store. Too bad the Broncos then hocked the crown for a Glad bag full of dirt by trading Hillis (and two picks!) to Cleveland for the nearly extinct Brady Quinn (-233).

Easy come, hard go.

We learn that Houston Texans DE Mario Williams may have gone first in the 2006 draft, but in the -- wait, he goes first in the re-draft, too.

Lastly, we find out that over this three-year period, USC has the best publicity department in college football. The Trojans may have had a lot of players taken in those three first rounds, but no school's picks underperformed worse (Leinart, Reggie Bush, Keith Rivers and Sedrick Ellis fell a combined -382). Then again, Mark Sanchez and Clay Matthews will be counted when we get to fixing 2009-11.

Next up: U.S. presidential elections.

[Ebolapox]

ROFL

nevermind. I was browsing quickly and saw carr, not flowers.

hey laz, it's only two fucking posts above yours.