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rico
08-16-2018, 08:49 PM
Bruce would judo chop Mike on his spine and do a flying dragon kick and then throw a ninja star through both his eyes!

And Mike would just have to hit him one time and Bruce would die. He weighed 130 lbs right? Like the size of a smallish woman?

Yeah dude, I stood right next to his wax figure! Not very imposing at all!!

rico
08-16-2018, 08:50 PM
ROFL This thread reached 1000 posts!!! ROFL

TLO
05-24-2019, 04:38 PM
Can I move this thread to the HOC when everyone is done with it? This thread and the Rousey/Mayweather thread were gold.

I think the time has come

Fishpicker
05-24-2019, 06:26 PM
You're acting like a bare knuckle punch from Tyson wouldn't put someone in a coma.
Posted via Mobile Device

Robin Givens was never put in a coma, was she?

Megatron96
05-24-2019, 06:58 PM
Bruce Lee was 5' 7" and weighed about 145 lbs. His weight fluctuated about ten lbs. depending on if he was training for a movie or not.

Tyson weighed about 200 lbs for most of his fighting career. Tyson was also a known street fighter before becoming a pro boxer.

All other things being equal, size, length and weight usually decide fights. In a ring, Tyson would probably win; just too much size and power.

BWillie
05-24-2019, 07:10 PM
Jesus Christ. This thread is still going. Hey lets put Deontay Wilder in the ring against Mayweather. See what happens. Maywheather dead in 10 seconds.

kcclone
05-24-2019, 07:14 PM
Tyson in his prime with no gloves would destroy Lee. For Bruce to get close enough to hit/kick or grapple with Lee, he would have to get pretty close. Tyson has a MMA build and mentality.

As he once said, “Everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”.


For Lee, the size differential would just be too much.

Valiant
05-24-2019, 07:41 PM
Sorry if this has been posted: https://www.quora.com/Who-would-win-in-a-fight-Mike-Tyson-vs-Bruce-Lee-Why



I was firmly in the Tyson camp until I read this. Now I guess I lean Lee if he's smart about and stays on the ground.

Yeah the guy tried sparring with Ali late in the match and quit after a hit and went back to laying on his back. There is video of the fight. The guy was scared of Ali. But also would not allow ground in pound. The fight was boring as fuck. The only true way to determine would be two fights with each style being allowed only.

I still get tired of of Lee's mythical status people give him. He is the start of MMA. But that is like stating Tony Hawks moves from 98 would win xgames gold today. All of Lee's achievements are second hand. Beat up extras? Fuck out of here with that. Sadly Lee did not have enough fights to prove anything other than Chuck Norris memes of accomplishment.

Lee was afraid of Kareem Abdul Jabar who was slow. What is he going to do against a guy with just as quick hands as him in his prime but way more weight and punches harder?

Sadly we can not compare today because if they both were coming up the training would be different.

Lee's only chance is to grapple and submit him with a hold. Tyson's is connecting. But for Lee to get in close for that he has to get in Tyson's power range.

Easy 6
05-24-2019, 07:59 PM
It’s gotta be Bruce, right?

He is more than quick enough to avoid those vicious uppercuts, he’ll pepper Mike with lightning strikes to keep him at bay and off balance long enough to pull off a Royce Gracie-like, pre MMA jiu-jitsu scramble to grab a limb and start twisting

Iron Mike has finally met his match

DJ's left nut
01-14-2020, 04:25 PM
BuT MiKe TySoN iS sLoW....

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Old and out of shape Tyson still moves like a viper.

He was a bad, bad man...

JohnnyV13
01-14-2020, 04:31 PM
Depends on the rules of the match.

Bare hands, I think Tyson's speed and power would be unbeatable.

However, if the fight involves weapons, I have to take Lee. The more lethal the weapons involved, the less size, speed, and power matter. Tyson, as far as I know, isn't trained with weapons. Lee was an expert with multiple weapons.

Mennonite
01-14-2020, 04:37 PM
BuT MiKe TySoN iS sLoW....

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Old and out of shape Tyson still moves like a viper.

He was a bad, bad man...


In related news: an old and out of shape Robin Givens (obscured by dude in red shirt) can still take a punch.

RobertWeathers
01-14-2020, 04:51 PM
Lee would destroy him.

MahiMike
01-14-2020, 07:10 PM
Wow a poll from 2012. And even more wow, 100 lb Bruce Lee won. Wut? Dude could throw 100 punches in a minute at Tyson and he wouldn't even feel it.

If Mike could catch him, he'd snap his neck with 3 fingers.

hometeam
01-14-2020, 07:13 PM
patrick mahomes

Naptown Chief
01-14-2020, 07:15 PM
patrick mahomes

Came to post this

LiveSteam
01-14-2020, 08:06 PM
One... Just one hook from Tyson connects with Lee and Lee is done.
Takes one to the head and Lee hits the canvas or takes one to the kidney and Lee hits the canvas or takes one to the ribs,they break like cheap glass and again. Lee hits the canvas.

LiveSteam
01-14-2020, 08:10 PM
Wow a poll from 2012. And even more wow, 100 lb Bruce Lee won. Wut? Dude could throw 100 punches in a minute at Tyson and he wouldn't even feel it.

If Mike could catch him, he'd snap his neck with 3 fingers.

Its not even a contest.
But then again we have peeps here that really believed some chick in the MMA would kick Mayweathers ass in a fight.

TLO
01-14-2020, 09:37 PM
Oh Jesus Christ

lewdog
01-14-2020, 09:39 PM
Tyson, and I am not even sure how there's an argument here.

redfan
01-15-2020, 08:12 AM
It lives!!

Oh, and Lee no doubt.

Baby Lee
01-15-2020, 08:19 AM
Cliff Booth

CoMoChief
01-15-2020, 08:34 AM
I love these Bruce Lee arguments.

Dude was 5ft 100lbs. A lot of people could probably just sit on the guy.

1 connected punch from Tyson would probably kill Lee.

Sassy Squatch
01-15-2020, 08:37 AM
Pretty sure he could get up to 165 at 5'8. Still not nearly as stocky as Tyson but he's not a midget.

Rain Man
01-15-2020, 11:11 AM
patrick mahomes

Clearly the correct answer.

Rasputin
01-15-2020, 11:27 AM
Oh Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ would have healed Evander Holyfields ear and they would have continued to fight.


Jesus Christ took a beating and still picked up his cross so you maybe right if he would fight back.

redfan
06-10-2020, 08:56 AM
https://www.espn.com/espn/story?id=29266542&_slug_=could-bruce-lee-win-real-fight

dlphg9
06-10-2020, 09:26 AM
Jesus Christ would have healed Evander Holyfields ear and they would have continued to fight.


Jesus Christ took a beating and still picked up his cross so you maybe right if he would fight back.

Jesus turned water to wine, so surely he could turn either one of these guys into dirt.

cripple creek
06-10-2020, 11:20 AM
lee

DJ's left nut
06-10-2020, 11:49 AM
https://www.espn.com/espn/story?id=29266542&_slug_=could-bruce-lee-win-real-fight

"X, Y and Z have confirmed this story is true!"

Then X, Y and Z say Bruce Lee punched a man 8 feet through the air while he was standing still.

I still can't believe stories like this are repeated. This has been mocked up dozens of times at this point and the bottom line is that it's just not possible.

People are soft and squishy. They're mostly water with meat and skin. They absorb impact extremely well and ultimately when their capacity to absorb impact fails, things get torn off.

We see heavyweight fighters punch heavy bags all the time, right? 240 lb animals who lift weights and punch things for a living and who are punching an inanimate object that is not defending itself. The bags are usually in the 150 lb range. The bag move sideways by a foot or two and damn sure doesn't get knocked 6-8 feet through the air. Moreover, what happens if someone really goes to town on one? The cover tears. So a leather heavy bag, made of cow-hide (thicker/stronger than human skin) will tear before it flies 6 feet through the air....but human skin won't?

If someone someone COULD punch you roughly at the speed of sound, you wouldn't fly 6 feet backwards....but your head might after it's detached from your friggen body.

This is just so easily debunked. It's been done with dummies and it's been done with raw math. And the math is actually really straightforward. Force is pretty easily calculated, as is energy. The amount of energy in joules you'd have to spread across a persons body to literally lift them into the air for any sort of distance is so high that any such punch would be instantly fatal.

And yet its apocryphal, clearly bullshit stories like this that continue to fuel the myth of Bruce Lee as some sort of impossible force of nature.

Beef Supreme
06-10-2020, 12:55 PM
:evil:Cleary Rhonda Rousey wins.

Chiefs Party
06-10-2020, 01:05 PM
The version of "I'm back" Tyson would destroy Lee in his prime. Google "Tyson I'm Back" to see the video if you haven't already. It's on a New York Post website. Dude is still moving pretty damn good.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 01:30 PM
This again?

Bruce Lee would kick Mike Tyson's stupid ass.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 01:31 PM
The version of "I'm back" Tyson would destroy Lee in his prime. Google "Tyson I'm Back" to see the video if you haven't already. It's on a New York Post website. Dude is still moving pretty damn good.

Bruce Lee would literally break Tyson's legs. Tyson would never touch Lee.

staylor26
06-10-2020, 01:36 PM
Holy shit those poll results :facepalm:

Chiefs Party
06-10-2020, 02:21 PM
Bruce Lee would literally break Tyson's legs. Tyson would never touch Lee.

Everything I've heard about Bruce Lee getting in real fights has been mostly anecdotal with not a whole lot of proof. The people he fought don't really seem to be top tiered, known fighters either.

Tyson has quite a bit of footage of him completely wrecking some of the best fighters on the planet.

Leaving out age, I think a 20 yr old Tyson would knock out Lee pretty fast.

A lot of stuff has to go right to break someone's leg. Not saying it isn't possible but 9 times out of 10 Tyson would probably counter the leg break and eat a piece of Lee's face before knocking him out.

D.A.P.
06-10-2020, 03:17 PM
Liam Neeson

DJ's left nut
06-10-2020, 03:31 PM
140 lb man punches someone 6-8 through the air.

Meanwhile:


http://i.imgur.com/fzSIO6o.gif

Mike Tyson throws what may have been the most devastating punch of all time right there and the dude's head snaps back and he falls straight down. I'm serious - can there actually be a more brutal shot than that. Gets his legs under it, drives himself up, good hip rotation - that my friends, is a perfect example of the kinetic chain in action. Every muscle Tyson has, from his calves through his back and finally his arms, unloaded into that punch. And he hit the dude on the fucking button. And Tyson's punching power is unmatched in modern times. It was a perfect shot. The guy didn't go airborne like a video game.

I'm sure that whole "Force = mass times acceleration" thing just goes out the window when it's martial arts involved.

Nothing these people say about Lee can be trusted. Not one single word of it. Nobody who thinks a dude who weighs as much as a high school sophomore actually knocked a grown ass man through the air can be taken at face value.

Never happened. It is literally impossible if physics exist around Bruce Lee.

MatriculatingHank
06-10-2020, 03:33 PM
Simple. Mike Tyson, if the fight was in a phone booth.

DTHOF
06-10-2020, 03:37 PM
Tyson was a street fighter before he was a boxer he is probably pretty nasty in a street no holds bared fight. Bruce lee is too small by comparison. If MT was a fat ass then maybe but he is big and quick.

Pitt Gorilla
06-10-2020, 03:51 PM
I like Lee, but it's Tyson in a laugher.

redfan
06-10-2020, 04:08 PM
Holy shit those poll results :facepalm:

I know, the accuracy is incredible.

DJ's left nut
06-10-2020, 04:20 PM
I like Lee, but it's Tyson in a laugher.

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No replacement for displacement.

I ain't a movie, lads. This idea that Mike Tyson, who had some of the fastest feet in the game, is just gonna stand there and let Bruce Lee run around the side of him (when again, Tyson was a fast fucking dude) and kick him in the knee is hilarious. Or that 140 lbs of Lee is going to just shatter Tyson's leg, as though that sort of thing happens all the time in MMA. As though breaking someone's leg isn't really fucking hard. And Tyson, who was plucked from those very "no rules" streetfights that you say he can't handle himself in precisely because he was mauling dudes, absolutely knows how to roll in a no holds barred street fight.

Oh yeah, that's right, Bruce Lee has super hollywood mysticism skills that allow him to defy the laws of physics in such a way that basic formulas regarding force and it's distribution simply do not matter to him. No unreliable narrator problems here when we're basing our perception on a dude who's legend is built on feats that are literally physically impossible.

Tyson in his prime was hilariously fast. It was his speed that got him noticed when D'Amato started training him up. He wasn't just some big drooling idiot who wouldn't be able to see Bruce Lee's hands. And Mike Tyson spent his the entirety of his formative years actually fighting people. Nobody wants to talk about the best quote of Tyson's career for some reason "everyone has a plan until they get hit..." Tyson gets a shot - who cares? He's taken hundreds of shots over his life and yes, many if not most of them hit with much more force than Lee because again, physics friggen matter when we're talking about force. Mass matters and Lee has none. Meanwhile Lee HASN'T taken hits like the stuff Tyson was doling out because he wasn't an actual fighter. He just didn't do it. He was an exceptionally skilled showman but that doens't mean dick in an actual fight, especially when blows are landed and raw ass animal instinct will take over.

Kman34
06-10-2020, 04:37 PM
Mike in his prime would kill him once he caught him.. Fighting for real and fighting in the movies are two different things..

Pasta Little Brioni
06-10-2020, 04:49 PM
what a fucking abomination of a poll result. Pathetic

Sorry
06-10-2020, 05:27 PM
Wait.. grown men think Bruce lee could beat Mike Tyson? lmfao. Bareknuckle fight and all?

Halfcan
06-10-2020, 05:42 PM
Bruce Lee keeps getting weaker, shorter and thinner every time this thread is bumped.

Now he is 5 foot, 120 pounds and made of glass.

Halfcan
06-10-2020, 06:03 PM
140 lb man punches someone 6-8 through the air.

Meanwhile:



Mike Tyson throws what may have been the most devastating punch of all time right there and the dude's head snaps back and he falls straight down. I'm serious - can there actually be a more brutal shot than that. Gets his legs under it, drives himself up, good hip rotation - that my friends, is a perfect example of the kinetic chain in action. Every muscle Tyson has, from his calves through his back and finally his arms, unloaded into that punch. And he hit the dude on the ****ing button. And Tyson's punching power is unmatched in modern times. It was a perfect shot. The guy didn't go airborne like a video game.

I'm sure that whole "Force = mass times acceleration" thing just goes out the window when it's martial arts involved.

Nothing these people say about Lee can be trusted. Not one single word of it. Nobody who thinks a dude who weighs as much as a high school sophomore actually knocked a grown ass man through the air can be taken at face value.

Never happened. It is literally impossible if physics exist around Bruce Lee.

One inch punch- by Lee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfWlYLKJLQ

Here is the physics behind the punch according to this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMS0Yx0Sa0

candyman
06-10-2020, 06:07 PM
Bruce Lee beating Tyson is almost as funny as Ronda Rousey beating Mayweather. Neither would have a snowball's chance in hell.

Halfcan
06-10-2020, 06:50 PM
This is the fight that the myth of Mike Tyson died. Remember when a 42-1 journeyman easily avoiding Tyson's punches while giving him a pounding? Maybe Don King should have paid Buster to take a dive?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9Ufhe0Uf0

Chiefs Party
06-10-2020, 06:54 PM
One inch punch- by Lee


Here is the physics behind the punch according to this guy.



This is what I'm talking about. This is about all you'll find on the man that isn't some cinematic choreographing.

Right now, Tyson has probably the most explosive knockout compilation you can find for a single person on youtube... against elite competition.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 07:25 PM
This is the fight that the myth of Mike Tyson died. Remember when a 42-1 journeyman easily avoiding Tyson's punches while giving him a pounding? Maybe Don King should have paid Buster to take a dive?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9Ufhe0Uf0

Buster Douglas, a no-name chump love sucker, gave Tyson's bitch ass all he could handle. Mike Tyson is a joke. Anyone who thinks Tyson could take Lee doesn't know shit about actual hand to hand combat.

Tyson would never even touch Lee.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 07:26 PM
Mike in his prime would kill him once he caught him.. Fighting for real and fighting in the movies are two different things..

Mike Tyson would NEVER catch him. Lee would break his legs on a sweep and that would be that.

-King-
06-10-2020, 07:49 PM
One inch punch- by Lee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfWlYLKJLQ

Here is the physics behind the punch according to this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMS0Yx0Sa0

Yeah the guy on the receiving end of that punch/push isn't in on the act at all. Totally legit.

-King-
06-10-2020, 07:50 PM
This is the fight that the myth of Mike Tyson died. Remember when a 42-1 journeyman easily avoiding Tyson's punches while giving him a pounding? Maybe Don King should have paid Buster to take a dive?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gi9Ufhe0Uf0

Ok, now post Bruce Lee's fights.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 07:57 PM
https://youtu.be/ky8iCpqTCzsOk, now post Bruce Lee's fights.

rabblerouser
06-10-2020, 07:58 PM
Yeah the guy on the receiving end of that punch/push isn't in on the act at all. Totally legit.

So, Mike Tyson's fights were rigged? Is that what you're saying?

-King-
06-10-2020, 08:16 PM
https://youtu.be/ky8iCpqTCzs

That's not a fight. That's a glorified sparring session with one of his STUDENTS.

lcarus
06-11-2020, 07:34 AM
The obvious truth here is if Mike Tyson lands a bare knuckle shot on any human being they're in big fucking trouble.

BigRedChief
06-11-2020, 07:46 AM
Bruce Lee audition for the green Hornet. Start at the 4:00 minute mark. Watch how fast he is in a stupid audition, not even a fight.


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staylor26
06-11-2020, 07:54 AM
Seriously, anybody who chose Lee is fucking retarded LMAO

candyman
06-11-2020, 07:57 AM
Seriously, anybody who chose Lee is fucking retarded LMAO

Truth. He was an actor, a showman. He was probably the most skilled martial artist of all time, but that shit doesn't help you in a street fight. Hundreds of fighters far less skilled than Tyson in his prime would have had no problems knocking Lee's tiny ass out.

lcarus
06-11-2020, 08:09 AM
I heard Tyson turned down 18 million to do bare knuckle boxing. I can't blame him. He'll make a shit ton more than that in classic boxing.

fan4ever
06-11-2020, 09:52 AM
So who believes this is real?

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candyman
06-11-2020, 10:24 AM
So who believes this is real?

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It is a fact that it is not real and that is not even Bruce Lee.

ClevelandBronco
06-11-2020, 11:52 AM
Unknown ping pong man destroys Mike Tyson easily, has babies with Bruce Lee.

Fucking pandemic.

Garcia Bronco
06-11-2020, 12:15 PM
Buster Douglas, a no-name chump love sucker, gave Tyson's bitch ass all he could handle. Mike Tyson is a joke. Anyone who thinks Tyson could take Lee doesn't know shit about actual hand to hand combat.

Tyson would never even touch Lee.

I don't think Mike is a joke, but people forget that the fight with Douglas was a duck fight to keep Tyson from fighting Holyfield. Holyfield was always going to best Tyson and Holyfield is the best boxer since Ali.

fan4ever
06-11-2020, 12:55 PM
Everyone can relax; I just solved the debate.

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fan4ever
06-11-2020, 12:59 PM
Whoops...guess I didn't. Wonder why the Pennywise reference?

Brody Wa
06-12-2020, 09:06 AM
I would take the British dude...the current heavyweight champion over either one of them.

Pablo
06-12-2020, 09:25 AM
I would take the British dude...the current heavyweight champion over either one of them.

I dunno man, the bigger they are...the farther Bruce Lee could have kicked them. I'm guessing something like 9 feet in the air and 30 feet back easily.

KCUnited
06-12-2020, 09:35 AM
Bruce Lee or Forrest Gump in a ping pong in Ding Dang cage match?

TwistedChief
06-12-2020, 10:11 AM
The answer is clear: staylor would beat the shit out of both of them.

Pants
06-12-2020, 10:16 AM
Bruce Lee was 5'7" 128 lbs. Mike Tyson 5'10" 220. It wouldn't even be close.

This is an understatement. Bruce Literally would not be able to do ANYTHING to Tyson.

I sincerely hope everyone who said Lee in this thread was just being a silly jokester or a troll.

stumppy
06-12-2020, 10:21 AM
The answer is clear: staylor would beat the shit out of both of them.

ROFL

Beat me to it.

DJ's left nut
06-12-2020, 11:27 AM
One inch punch- by Lee

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfWlYLKJLQ

Here is the physics behind the punch according to this guy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMMS0Yx0Sa0

This is a cool bit of information, though I didn't watch all the video because ain't nobody got time for that. I went and read an article that I think encapsulated it though and it presents some great information. I have a post in my head but it's long and I just don't feel like typing it at the moment. I'll get it done at some point.

Hint - 'mind over matter' as it relates to stuff like this is SHOCKINGLY similar to what western athletes have known for a looooooong time. Go look at that gif Virus originally posted of the Tyson uppercut and why I think it may be a perfect punch for a hint.

DJ's left nut
06-12-2020, 11:29 AM
Buster Douglas, a no-name chump love sucker, gave Tyson's bitch ass all he could handle. Mike Tyson is a joke. Anyone who thinks Tyson could take Lee doesn't know shit about actual hand to hand combat.

Tyson would never even touch Lee.

So says the man trying to claim the fat schlub who'd lost all his technique and footwork is anything resembling "Prime Tyson".

20 year old Tyson and 30 year old Tyson might as well be Len Dawson at the Super Bowl in 1970 verse Len Dawson at the Super Bowl in 2020.

Pants
06-12-2020, 11:31 AM
Bruce Lee beating Tyson is almost as funny as Ronda Rousey beating Mayweather. Neither would have a snowball's chance in hell.

The Ronda Rousey one is dumb but not as clear cut.

Ronda Rousey could judo throw and armbar Floyd pretty easily. Real life, it wouldn't happen but there is a tiny chance.

Bruce Lee would have had 0.00% chance of beating Mike Tyson.

It'd be like an average 10 year old kid fighting an average adult poster in this thread. Something like that.

Kman34
06-12-2020, 12:28 PM
The Ronda Rousey one is dumb but not as clear cut.

Ronda Rousey could judo throw and armbar Floyd pretty easily. Real life, it wouldn't happen but there is a tiny chance.

Bruce Lee would have had 0.00% chance of beating Mike Tyson.

It'd be like an average 10 year old kid fighting an average adult poster in this thread. Something like that.

I’ll put $20 on the 10yr old against some of these old fucks...ROFLROFL

Pitt Gorilla
06-12-2020, 01:14 PM
So says the man trying to claim the fat schlub who'd lost all his technique and footwork is anything resembling "Prime Tyson".

20 year old Tyson and 30 year old Tyson might as well be Len Dawson at the Super Bowl in 1970 verse Len Dawson at the Super Bowl in 2020.Love your analogy here, but was hoping for a Lake Dawson joke.

DJ's left nut
06-12-2020, 01:27 PM
Damn.

Hard to call that anything but an opportunity lost.

I'll try to do better next time.

Pants
06-12-2020, 01:53 PM
Mike Tyson at his current age would literally kill prime-of-his life Bruce Lee.

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Halfcan
06-12-2020, 11:04 PM
Tyson was not even the best fighter of his generation. His highlight reel is littered with bums and guys past their prime. Most stood there waiting for the punch and then laid down.

Ray Mercer and George Foreman were harder punchers, Holyfield and Lewis- better boxers.

Tommy the Duke had a devastating uppercut as well, plus he knocked out a bunch of bums too- where is the love for him?

LiveSteam
06-13-2020, 01:01 AM
Anyone that thinks Lee would take out Tyson dose not understand the fight game.

Which is a lot of peeps here. Im still shocked at how many peeps picked Rhonda over Mayweather in that thread and how many thought Wilder would beat the Gypsy King.
SMH

FTR Wilder is one of the worst Heavy Weight Champs of all time.
No skills. Just one punch.

eDave
06-13-2020, 02:35 AM
Tyson. Dumbasses.

Chiefs Party
06-13-2020, 07:58 AM
How often do you see people in UFC and PFC winning championships with their expertise being Jeet Kune Do? Never. Generally, successful MMA guys are skilled in wrestling and/or Jiu Jitsu. I have heard somewhere (however, I admittedly can't find a source to save my life) that along with being one of the most viscious boxers of all time, he was also a skilled grappler/wrestler.

Not to mention the WEIGHT ADVANTAGE.

A common argument that I hear is that Tyson wouldn't be able to catch Bruce Lee if they were to fight. Now, Tyson has never struck me or anyone as the brightest peanut in the turd, but if he were in a fight with Bruce Lee, I doubt he would spend the majority of his time chasing him around. He would eventually wait for him and if Bruce Lee were within his grasps, chances are he could catch him... he was incredibly fast for his size. If (WHEN) Tyson catches Bruce Lee, it's over.

Bruce Lee was a human, hollywood star who happened to be a very, very skilled martial artist.

This... not saying there aren't some skilled chinese kung fu fighters, but the vast majority suck at street fighting. A very high percentage of chinese kung fu isn't practical.

Let's be real, he has no actual fight footage. Movies/shows don't count.

Have you seen the chinese MMA guy that goes around challenging all the kung fu "masters"? He beats their ass and acknowledges he doesn't have a high fighting skill level.

TRR
06-13-2020, 08:25 AM
Anyone that thinks Lee would take out Tyson dose not understand the fight game.

Which is a lot of peeps here. Im still shocked at how many peeps picked Rhonda over Mayweather in that thread and how many thought Wilder would beat the Gypsy King.
SMH

FTR Wilder is one of the worst Heavy Weight Champs of all time.
No skills. Just one punch.

Such an unbelievably horrible take on Wilder. Say what you want about his skill level, but the guy single-handedly resurrected the heavyweight division from its ashes. He’s the guy that motivated “Gypsy King” to quit stuffing his mouth with twinkies and alcoholic, and show his true talent.

Sorry
06-13-2020, 09:47 AM
Buster Douglas, a no-name chump love sucker, gave Tyson's bitch ass all he could handle. Mike Tyson is a joke. Anyone who thinks Tyson could take Lee doesn't know shit about actual hand to hand combat.

Tyson would never even touch Lee.

Imagine being this fucking stupid. The only hand to hand combat you know is the battle between which hand to stuff your face with first.

Bruce Lee’s martial arts won’t save him from a 220lb plus beast with adrenaline pumping.

stumppy
06-13-2020, 10:36 AM
Buster Douglas, a no-name chump love sucker, gave Tyson's bitch ass all he could handle. Mike Tyson is a joke. Anyone who thinks Tyson could take Lee doesn't know shit about actual hand to hand combat.

Tyson would never even touch Lee.
:rolleyes:
And you do? Oh please, please educate us.

lewdog
06-13-2020, 10:39 AM
The answer is clear: staylor would beat the shit out of both of them.

staylor admitted to being a string bean pussy who doesn't even lift weights. Please note that for future reference.


These are the dumbest poll results in the history of CP. It's Tyson and it's not even close.

Bowser
06-13-2020, 10:56 AM
Yeah? Well, Bruce Lee could beat up your dad.

staylor26
06-13-2020, 10:59 AM
The answer is clear: staylor would beat the shit out of both of them.

But I’m the one competing with you, right?

LMAO

I didn’t claim to be the baddest motherfucker on the planet. Far from it, but I would absolutely drop you in a matter of seconds.

You on the other hand basically called yourself Jesus Christ. The nicest most empathetic guy to ever live. CP’s moral compass!

Pasta Little Brioni
06-13-2020, 11:07 AM
We just need a "Tyson...wouldn't sniff Lee" post to end this..

Pasta Little Brioni
06-13-2020, 11:09 AM
People actually voting/arguing for Lee ROFL ROFL

staylor26
06-13-2020, 11:10 AM
People actually voting/arguing for Lee ROFL ROFL

This poll tells me that way more than half of the people on CP are fucking retarded.

Not just idiots, morons, or even buttfucking morons. Retarded.

Halfcan
06-13-2020, 11:17 AM
If Lee was not the Godfather of martial arts and just a beauty queen in a hotel room- yeah, Tyson would win.

Halfcan
06-13-2020, 11:19 AM
Even Glass Joe beat Tyson.

Lee would kick that stupid tattoo right off his face in a blink of an eye.

RunKC
06-13-2020, 11:34 AM
I love Lee but I feel like his margin for error would be a lot smaller than Tyson’s. All it would take is one blow and Lee would be in a world of pain.

staylor26
06-13-2020, 11:38 AM
staylor admitted to being a string bean pussy who doesn't even lift weights. Please note that for future reference.


These are the dumbest poll results in the history of CP. It's Tyson and it's not even close.

You don’t need to lift weights to know how to box.

fan4ever
06-13-2020, 12:02 PM
Anecdotal story: Saw a match some years ago with a golden gloves boxer and a martial arts fighter. Both were supposedly the best at their weight class/discipline in our area. Martial arts guy danced around and punched and kicked for about 3 rounds; boxer only blocked and stepped away from the kicks for the most part. Martial arts guy gets cocky, thinks the boxer is afraid of him, leaves himself open and BAM...just like that...he's on his ass with a 2 inch cut over one of his eyes. Fight over. Boxer just waited for his opportunity without ever taking on any real damage. That's how I see Tyson/Lee fight going for the most part.

jdubya
06-13-2020, 12:09 PM
neither. Chuck Norris would kick both of their asses

LiveSteam
06-13-2020, 12:20 PM
Such an unbelievably horrible take on Wilder. Say what you want about his skill level, but the guy single-handedly resurrected the heavyweight division from its ashes. He’s the guy that motivated “Gypsy King” to quit stuffing his mouth with twinkies and alcoholic, and show his true talent.

The heavy weight division is shit. Has been for more than a decade. Wilder didn't fix anything. Two fighters didn't fix what was once a division full of real talent.

LiveSteam
06-13-2020, 12:23 PM
Yeah? Well, Bruce Lee could beat up your dad.

You never met my Pops. ;)

ThaVirus
06-13-2020, 07:21 PM
staylor admitted to being a string bean pussy who doesn't even lift weights. Please note that for future reference.


These are the dumbest poll results in the history of CP. It's Tyson and it's not even close.

Staylor is 100% a weakling. I'm guessing 5'6" and a pudgy 170.

lcarus
06-13-2020, 08:31 PM
Bruce Lee may lose due to weight class, but he was a bad mother fucker. I only know that's true because of what the best fighters say about him. Not to mention the people that really knew him. He was something else.

ModSocks
07-24-2020, 09:48 AM
After spending the night watching all of Tyson's K.O's, the mere idea of this thread is ludicrous.

ModSocks
07-24-2020, 09:48 AM
And wtf is up with these poll results.

Baby Lee
07-24-2020, 11:07 AM
Tyson was not even the best fighter of his generation. His highlight reel is littered with bums and guys past their prime. Most stood there waiting for the punch and then laid down.

Ray Mercer and George Foreman were harder punchers, Holyfield and Lewis- better boxers.

Tommy the Duke had a devastating uppercut as well, plus he knocked out a bunch of bums too- where is the love for him?

Foreman versus Tyson would have been nirvana.

Foreman is about the toughest guy with the hardest punch in history, but I can't recall him facing someone as compact and efficient as Tyson in his prime.

See how Foreman reacts to a prime Tyson uppercut and you'll have the true tale of how devastating or ineffectual it truly is. If Foreman weathers that, he probably wears Tyson down no matter how deep in his prime Tyson is.

Someone else outlined it earlier, what made Tyson so devastating is his uppercut was unleashed when he got right inside you. It came right up main street from your own belt buckle and hit your chin on the button. And when he connected, there was an unbroken line of force from the tip of his glove to the balls of his feet firmly planted on terra firma.

He'd bob and weave in max cover, all compact, launch the jab to bring your defenses up, slide the counter to get inside and bring everything from waist to chin in a flash.

redfan
07-24-2020, 02:03 PM
These are the most dead-on balls accurate poll results in the history of CP.

KCUnited
07-24-2020, 02:10 PM
And wtf is up with these poll results.

More painful

https://i.imgur.com/iwy4PKT.jpg?1

Pants
07-24-2020, 02:21 PM
More painful

https://i.imgur.com/iwy4PKT.jpg?1

LMAO

That is perfect.

mr. tegu
07-24-2020, 02:28 PM
What are the poll results? Can’t see them on mobile.

redfan
07-24-2020, 05:53 PM
What are the poll results? Can’t see them on mobile.

Bruce Lee wins 2 out of 3 fights with Tyson.

kccrow
07-24-2020, 10:48 PM
What are the poll results? Can’t see them on mobile.

Bruce Lee is legend.

WhiteWhale
07-25-2020, 08:29 AM
The side you take in this will show if you watch too much tv.

I said it years ago... Tyson would turn him into a corpse. Lee was a child actor from a rich hong Kong family. Tyson was a professional fighter.

You may as well think Darth Vader is real.

Pablo
07-25-2020, 08:47 AM
Bruce gets him with a flying lotus dragon kick and it's all over. Maybe he even throws a kungpoa reverse panda roll in there and really embarasses him.

Baby Lee
07-25-2020, 08:49 AM
Bruce gets him with a flying lotus dragon kick and it's all over. Maybe he even throws a kungpoa reverse panda roll in there and really embarasses him.

Unleash some of your avatar's quack fu.

ROYC75
07-25-2020, 10:50 AM
Answer these questions....

Can power punch speed?

Can you grab somebody well with boxing gloves on?

Is Tyson wearing gloves? That has a lot of bearing in your answer.

Valiant
07-25-2020, 06:21 PM
Yeah the guy on the receiving end of that punch/push isn't in on the act at all. Totally legit.

The one inch punch is amazing to anything standing flat footed and feet side by side. I have done the same fucking thing to someone. The user can thrust forward off the backdoor and drive thru the person standing there. It is punching through while doing it.

The receiver has feet side by side and has no way to stop the force from forcing him back. It is a fucking parlor trick. There is a reason why fighters today don't use it. Like other Chinese fighting styles, it is all show.

As for Tyson losing to buster. Lee never fought anyone half of buster skill. Tyson choked by getting lazy when his coach died.

Anyone, please post all of Lee's actual fight videos?

There is a reason there aren't any. Just like the current Chinese guy going across China beating up the Chinese Masters. An average Chinese MMA fighter is currently undefeated against the best fighters in China. Why? Because they fucking make everything mythical on their actual abilities.

Lee was a great that started the American movement of MMA and legitimatize Kung Fu films. But quit pretending he was a god.

Fishpicker
08-31-2020, 10:16 PM
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I chose Lee initially thinking it would be Lee from the 60s vs Tyson from the early 80s. Tyson from today has a huge advantage in that he has been exposed to MMA. he wouldn't be oblivious to the ground game/submissions. but I think if you transported 1980s Tyson to 1969 and fought Bruce Lee then, and Tyson had no idea about MMA/catch wrestling/submissions Lee could win. I stick by that.

Antonio Inoki almost ended Ali's career in an exhibition just by doing something Ali had never experienced nor expected

Simply Red
08-31-2020, 11:32 PM
Chuck Norris

^^ this was recklessly underrated. ^^

Fish
11-19-2020, 11:43 PM
Thath's crathy Iron Mike!

Mike Tyson's physique at ages 25(1991) and 54(2020).

https://i.imgur.com/aJKhlZD.jpg

Buehler445
11-19-2020, 11:52 PM
Holy shit.

Roids?

listopencil
11-20-2020, 02:53 AM
Eventually Mke Tyson will pass away, as we all do. And when he does Bruce Lee will be waiting for him in Valhalla...to kick his ass.

kcmaxwell
11-20-2020, 07:36 AM
Fight between Ip Man and Tyson was pretty close

Pants
11-20-2020, 09:04 AM
Holy shit.

Roids?

Based on his "roid gut," 100% yes.

LiveSteam
11-20-2020, 09:51 AM
One of the best karate man fights of all time.
https://youtu.be/0kxmdbcxAvI

rico
11-17-2022, 12:39 AM
Thath's crathy Iron Mike!

Mike Tyson's physique at ages 25(1991) and 54(2020).

https://i.imgur.com/aJKhlZD.jpg

Bruce Lee looked way less tough than that at age 54! Just sayin!

Coochie liquor
01-19-2023, 08:00 PM
Sooooo….. Bruce Lee vs Chuck Norris was about a couple of bad asses. Until you add a little background music. Then it takes a completely strange turn….


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Rasputin
01-20-2023, 06:32 AM
Mike Tyson would have had Bruce Lee for lunch, starting with the ears.

rico
01-20-2023, 08:13 AM
Mike Tyson would have had Bruce Lee for lunch, starting with the ears.

64.5% of CP disagrees with you.

I remember the first 100 votes it was something crazy like 91 Bruce, 9 Tyson…

Red Dawg
01-20-2023, 08:15 AM
Since one of them dead I say Tyson.

notorious
01-20-2023, 08:17 AM
The shoulder/back hair on Norris will haunt me for eternity.

Coochie liquor
01-20-2023, 09:51 AM
The shoulder/back hair on Norris will haunt me for eternity.

ROFLROFLROFL!! So true. What was stylish in the 70s, is no bueno today!

ModSocks
01-20-2023, 10:04 AM
The question is this: Who would win in a fight between Bruce Lee and Mike Tyson in his prime? Let's hear it!

Patrick Mahomes II

Pepe Silvia
01-20-2023, 10:08 AM
Brad Pitt would beat Bruce Lee.

ModSocks
01-20-2023, 10:10 AM
Brad Pitt would beat Bruce Lee.

Tom Cruise would beat up Bruce Lee for sure.

ReynardMuldrake
01-20-2023, 10:24 AM
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Clearly the winner would be Bruce Lee. Proof:

New World Order
01-20-2023, 10:48 AM
I miss Street Fighter

Coochie liquor
03-08-2023, 07:59 PM
Who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson, and Tyson Fury?

I think Fury would smash Mike. Mike wouldn’t be able to get close enough to land those punches. JMO

Pablo
03-08-2023, 08:09 PM
Is this where we all remember Bruce was 125 lbs again?

Megatron96
03-08-2023, 08:24 PM
Who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson, and Tyson Fury?

I think Fury would smash Mike. Mike wouldn’t be able to get close enough to land those punches. JMO

Which Tyson? In the beginning he was a very good technical fighter. Had a good jab, knew how to work his way inside. once he became champ, his skills started to fade, mostly out of pure hubris.

TLO
03-08-2023, 08:26 PM
This thread. ��

BigRichard
03-08-2023, 08:26 PM
Wasn't it this scene that started this conversation to begin with? I need to rewatch this movie. It is great.

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staylor26
03-08-2023, 08:30 PM
These poll results are embarrassing :facepalm:

Pablo
03-08-2023, 08:31 PM
Who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson, and Tyson Fury?

I think Fury would smash Mike. Mike wouldn’t be able to get close enough to land those punches. JMO

Bruce Lee would samurai orchid wave punch both into a million pieces in under 6 seconds.

At the same time

trndobrd
03-08-2023, 08:36 PM
When this thread started, Chiefs Planet was really hoping Romeo Crennel would find the answer to increasing Matt Cassel's productivity going into the 2012 season.

DJ's left nut
03-08-2023, 08:38 PM
These poll results are embarrassing :facepalm:

Rhonda Rousey is more likely to beat Floyd Mayweather than Lee would've been to beat Tyson.

There's so much insanity in this thread.

lewdog
03-08-2023, 08:40 PM
Mike Tyson in his prime, could beat any man who has ever walked this Earth. That is 100% truth.

Easy 6
03-08-2023, 08:40 PM
When this thread started, Chiefs Planet was really hoping Romeo Crennel would find the answer to increasing Matt Cassel's productivity going into the 2012 season.

A sad and desperate bunch, no question... my how times have changed

Coochie liquor
03-08-2023, 08:41 PM
Which Tyson? In the beginning he was a very good technical fighter. Had a good jab, knew how to work his way inside. once he became champ, his skills started to fade, mostly out of pure hubris.

I’d go even prime Mike vs Fury I think would be a mismatch. Fury is just to hard to even get to. Especially from someone Iron Mikes height. I love watching Fury fight like I used to love watching Mike fight. Mike 5’10 Fury 6’9

Looks like the tallest fighter Mike fought was Buster Douglas at 6’4. I think Fury is much better than Buster.

lewdog
03-08-2023, 08:47 PM
I’d go even prime Mike vs Fury I think would be a mismatch. Fury is just to hard to even get to. Especially from someone Iron Mikes height. I love watching Fury fight like I used to love watching Mike fight. Mike 5’10 Fury 6’9

Some of you guys are fucking high.

Prime Mike Tyson was a complete fighter. He used all his arsenal of skills that he had including precision and defense. He had a great inside game to open up the heavy blows and his quick defensive moves in his prime are still unmatched in quickness today. He had amazingly quick head moves and he had many knockouts on counters. Anyone thinking he only relied on brut strength were not really watching.

VAChief
03-08-2023, 08:50 PM
LMAO The special effects in movies back then were better than I originally thought they were.

Lee vs Elvis would be more even than Lee vs Tyson.

DJ's left nut
03-08-2023, 08:56 PM
Some of you guys are fucking high.

Prime Mike Tyson was a complete fighter. He used all his arsenal of skills that he had including precision and defense. He had a great inside game to open up the heavy blows and his quick defensive moves in his prime are still unmatched in quickness today. He had amazingly quick head moves and he had many knockouts on counters. Anyone thinking he only relied on brut strength were not really watching.

Post-prison Mike Tyson superseded the savage killer 'Kid Dynamite' Tyson in most of their memories.

There just wasn't an area he didn't excel. The only fighter that might have given him trouble was the nuclear experiment gone awry, Klitschko. Because he was just so goddamn bit.

But young Tyson was a force of nature.

Coochie liquor
03-08-2023, 08:58 PM
Some of you guys are fucking high.

Prime Mike Tyson was a complete fighter. He used all his arsenal of skills that he had including precision and defense. He had a great inside game to open up the heavy blows and his quick defensive moves in his prime are still unmatched in quickness today. He had amazingly quick head moves and he had many knockouts on counters. Anyone thinking he only relied on brut strength were not really watching.

I’m not denying Mike was a machine. His fights were must see TV, and I paid a pretty penny to watch a couple of his pretty short fights. But Fury is HUGE. He just toys with a lot of the guys he fights. Could be recency bias on my behalf, and I’m a pretty big Fury fan (was of Mike too). But the length of Fury’s arms I think would be the difference. Also we saw what happened with Mike when he had to fight into the later rounds. I think Fury would be able to keep him at bay for a chunk of the match. Also he’s a southpaw, which always makes it difficult for righty’s.

DCTwister
03-08-2023, 09:06 PM
Some of you guys are ****ing high.

Prime Mike Tyson was a complete fighter. He used all his arsenal of skills that he had including precision and defense. He had a great inside game to open up the heavy blows and his quick defensive moves in his prime are still unmatched in quickness today. He had amazingly quick head moves and he had many knockouts on counters. Anyone thinking he only relied on brut strength were not really watching.

Agree. People forget that Mike Tyson was 100 pounds heavier than Bruce Lee and knocking out some big bad dudes in the 1st round. Bruce Lee was a movie star with great skills, Tyson was a killer. Tyson would have literally separated Bruce Lee’s head from his skull in the first round.

A better poll would be would win in an MMA match - Mike Tyson in his prime vs. Jon Jones in his. (Jon Jones, BTW, because wrestling and jitsu)

Pants
03-09-2023, 01:04 AM
64.5% of CP disagrees with you.

I remember the first 100 votes it was something crazy like 91 Bruce, 9 Tyson…

Just goes to show how silly people are with their ideas about fighting.

CoMoChief
03-09-2023, 02:10 AM
Tyson is 220lbs and built like a brick shit house.

Lee is probably 135lbs soaking wet.

Lee would get destroyed.

BigRichard
03-09-2023, 03:34 AM
Agree. People forget that Mike Tyson was 100 pounds heavier than Bruce Lee and knocking out some big bad dudes in the 1st round. Bruce Lee was a movie star with great skills, Tyson was a killer. Tyson would have literally separated Bruce Lee’s head from his skull in the first round.

A better poll would be would win in an MMA match - Mike Tyson in his prime vs. Jon Jones in his. (Jon Jones, BTW, because wrestling and jitsu)

Any half way decent MMA fighter in a heavier weight class would destroy Mike Tyson. It wouldn't need to be Jon Jones. Sorry, Tyson was great at boxing but MMA is a completely different beast that if you haven't trained for will get you eaten alive.

DCTwister
03-09-2023, 06:53 AM
Any half way decent MMA fighter in a heavier weight class would destroy Mike Tyson. It wouldn't need to be Jon Jones. Sorry, Tyson was great at boxing but MMA is a completely different beast that if you haven't trained for will get you eaten alive.

Absolutely. Of course we are assuming a static hypothetical world where Tyson fights like a boxer in UFC 1. In that world, BJJ guys win every time as long as in a similar weight class (and maybe even if not). But can you imagine Tyson with a wrestling or BJJ game? Holy shit.

BigRichard
03-09-2023, 12:06 PM
Absolutely. Of course we are assuming a static hypothetical world where Tyson fights like a boxer in UFC 1. In that world, BJJ guys win every time as long as in a similar weight class (and maybe even if not). But can you imagine Tyson with a wrestling or BJJ game? Holy shit.

I always thought these imaginary scenarios was just taking X in their prime with their knowledge set vs Y in their prime with their knowledge set and who would win but we can imagine anything I guess can't we :)

DJ's left nut
03-09-2023, 12:41 PM
I’m not denying Mike was a machine. His fights were must see TV, and I paid a pretty penny to watch a couple of his pretty short fights. But Fury is HUGE. He just toys with a lot of the guys he fights. Could be recency bias on my behalf, and I’m a pretty big Fury fan (was of Mike too). But the length of Fury’s arms I think would be the difference. Also we saw what happened with Mike when he had to fight into the later rounds. I think Fury would be able to keep him at bay for a chunk of the match. Also he’s a southpaw, which always makes it difficult for righty’s.

You think Mike Tyson didn't fight guys that were bigger than him? Everyone he fought had a reach advantage - he knew how to deal with it.

As has been noted, he was so damn hard to keep out of your kitchen because he'd just keep coming. He'd get that head down behind his gloves and keep you from landing anything square then he'd just pursue, pursue, pursue. If you tried to stand there and keep him back with jabs, that would work - for awhile. But he was cat quick and the moment you missed with a jab, he inside on you. Now you're trying to back up to re-gain the space you lost be he's not letting you. Because again - he just kept coming.

And here's one of my favorite things about Tyson and I've alluded to it before - he's one of the best displays of the kinetic chain in action you will ever see. Tyson could step and delivery a punch that used that step to his advantage. He was able to use that step to help rotate his hips and in so doing take all that energy, put it into his back and then rotate his torso through and put a TON of energy into the punch.

So sure - try to keep him at distance. It can work if you're pristine in your execution or if he's not on his game. But you're not trying anything that hasn't been tried. He knows how to deal with length; he's been doing it his entire career. He's GOING to get inside you at some point and he's probably going to deliver serious damage when he does. So you'd better be able to take a wallop and then you'd better hope you catch him off balance and put one on the button.

Because you're not gonna stick and move your way to a win against prime Tyson. He was in too great a shape, he was too fast, he was too powerful and he was, in a seemingly impossible convergence, a relentless technician. It's hard to be as persistent AND as sound as he was. A war of attrition isn't gonna work.

AdolfOliverBush
03-09-2023, 12:49 PM
Lee wouldn't have been physically strong enough to beat Tyson in any form of fighting. He couldn't win by submission, and he damn sure couldn't knock him out.

The poll results are shameful. LMAO

Old Dog
03-09-2023, 12:49 PM
Tyson easily. Lee is dead.

DJ's left nut
03-09-2023, 01:36 PM
Lee wouldn't have been physically strong enough to beat Tyson in any form of fighting. He couldn't win by submission, and he damn sure couldn't knock him out.

The poll results are shameful. LMAO

Couldn't win by submission either.

I've used this example before, but I saw a russian guy (Belfort I think) get Jon Jones in a full arm lock and use his entire body to pry into that elbow. And Jones was just so powerful that he was able to hold him off and eventually stand himself up with a grown ass man hanging from his arm, shake the guy off and beat the shit out of him.

Even the 'submission' folks simply do not realize how powerful these guys are. 135 lb Bruce Lee isn't doing shit to get Mike Tyson to submit. If Vitor can't get Jons to submit when he's putting his entire body into the guy's arm, Bruce Lee isn't doing a thing to Mike Tyson.

EDIT: Ah shit - I see you said COULDN'T beat him by submission. Yeah - that.

There's literally not a single thing Bruce Lee could do to defeat Tyson.

AdolfOliverBush
03-09-2023, 02:02 PM
Couldn't win by submission either.

I've used this example before, but I saw a russian guy (Belfort I think) get Jon Jones in a full arm lock and use his entire body to pry into that elbow. And Jones was just so powerful that he was able to hold him off and eventually stand himself up with a grown ass man hanging from his arm, shake the guy off and beat the shit out of him.

Even the 'submission' folks simply do not realize how powerful these guys are. 135 lb Bruce Lee isn't doing shit to get Mike Tyson to submit. If Vitor can't get Jons to submit when he's putting his entire body into the guy's arm, Bruce Lee isn't doing a thing to Mike Tyson.

EDIT: Ah shit - I see you said COULDN'T beat him by submission. Yeah - that.

There's literally not a single thing Bruce Lee could do to defeat Tyson.

Yeah, I'm pretty sure if Lee tried to choke out Tyson, Tyson would simply peel his hands off his neck, like a regular guy might to a 12-year-old.

ThaVirus
03-09-2023, 02:23 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure if Lee tried to choke out Tyson, Tyson would simply peel his hands off his neck, like a regular guy might to a 12-year-old.

Come on, dude. This is massive hyperbole lol Lee was still a grown ass man.

AdolfOliverBush
03-09-2023, 02:32 PM
Come on, dude. This is massive hyperbole lol Lee was still a grown ass man.

Yes, but he was a grown man who weighed 135 pounds. Versus a regular guy on the street? Of course Lee would dominate. Against Tyson? 135 pounds isn't close to enough to stop a prime Mike Tyson from doing whatever he wants.

Coochie liquor
03-09-2023, 05:45 PM
You think Mike Tyson didn't fight guys that were bigger than him? Everyone he fought had a reach advantage - he knew how to deal with it.

As has been noted, he was so damn hard to keep out of your kitchen because he'd just keep coming. He'd get that head down behind his gloves and keep you from landing anything square then he'd just pursue, pursue, pursue. If you tried to stand there and keep him back with jabs, that would work - for awhile. But he was cat quick and the moment you missed with a jab, he inside on you. Now you're trying to back up to re-gain the space you lost be he's not letting you. Because again - he just kept coming.

And here's one of my favorite things about Tyson and I've alluded to it before - he's one of the best displays of the kinetic chain in action you will ever see. Tyson could step and delivery a punch that used that step to his advantage. He was able to use that step to help rotate his hips and in so doing take all that energy, put it into his back and then rotate his torso through and put a TON of energy into the punch.

So sure - try to keep him at distance. It can work if you're pristine in your execution or if he's not on his game. But you're not trying anything that hasn't been tried. He knows how to deal with length; he's been doing it his entire career. He's GOING to get inside you at some point and he's probably going to deliver serious damage when he does. So you'd better be able to take a wallop and then you'd better hope you catch him off balance and put one on the button.

Because you're not gonna stick and move your way to a win against prime Tyson. He was in too great a shape, he was too fast, he was too powerful and he was, in a seemingly impossible convergence, a relentless technician. It's hard to be as persistent AND as sound as he was. A war of attrition isn't gonna work.

I watch boxing , but obviously don’t have the knowledge of the ins and out you do. But Buster Douglas was the tallest guy he fought at 6’4. And he lost. Fury is 5 inches taller with a longer reach. And I don’t know what the outcome would actually be. But I just think it would be a hell of a problem for Mike. And I was a big Mike Stan back in the day.

Coochie liquor
03-09-2023, 05:50 PM
Yes, but he was a grown man who weighed 135 pounds. Versus a regular guy on the street? Of course Lee would dominate. Against Tyson? 135 pounds isn't close to enough to stop a prime Mike Tyson from doing whatever he wants.

In a boxing match, Mike would KILL Bruce. In a karate fight though?? Bruce was a master at using peoples muscle against them. If Mike could get hold of him he’d likely pummel him, but if Bruce could evade and and use karate moves he MIGHT have a chance. No doubt Bruce was much quicker, mostly because of the size difference. But if Mike was able to get hold of him! It’s probably over! But what the hell do I know? I’m sitting in the hospital on my ass!

Megatron96
03-09-2023, 05:51 PM
I’d go even prime Mike vs Fury I think would be a mismatch. Fury is just to hard to even get to. Especially from someone Iron Mikes height. I love watching Fury fight like I used to love watching Mike fight. Mike 5’10 Fury 6’9

Looks like the tallest fighter Mike fought was Buster Douglas at 6’4. I think Fury is much better than Buster.

By the time Tyson fought Douglas, he'd become lazy, both in his prep and in his actual technique. He wasn't using his jab hardly at all, didn't work the angles, he just walked into people and tried to get the uppercut to connect. That was his whole gameplan by the time he got to Douglas. And Douglas fought the fight of his life; he never looked that good, or even close, ever again.

go back to when Tyson was still actually boxing at a high level, and I think he could beat anybody I've ever seen.

DJ's left nut
03-09-2023, 06:01 PM
I watch boxing , but obviously don’t have the knowledge of the ins and out you do. But Buster Douglas was the tallest guy he fought at 6’4. And he lost. Fury is 5 inches taller with a longer reach. And I don’t know what the outcome would actually be. But I just think it would be a hell of a problem for Mike. And I was a big Mike Stan back in the day.

I mean, that's just not right.

David Jaco was 6'6" and not far removed from beating Razor Ruddock. Tyrell Biggs was 6'5" and the undefeated #1 contender at the time. Jose Ribalta was a rummy but he was 6'5" and beat Leon Spinks!

Thomas knocked the shit out of all 3 of those guys. Tony Tucker and Mitch Green were both 6'5" and lost to Tyson.

And then there was Lennox Lewis who is 6'5" and fairly well whupped him. But by then he was washed. He was the caricature you're portraying him as now. So he couldn't dodge those jabs to get inside and he was slow enough that if he did get in there, fighters just leaned on him because he couldn't do that little deke and drill 'em with the uppercut anymore; just wasn't fast enough.

Tyson fought plenty of tall fighters and handled all of them when he was in the prime we're talking about. When he got to the latter half of his career and tried to be a puncher, he struggled against them. But again, I just think that's the version you remember of him - not the version of him in his prime.

Coochie liquor
03-09-2023, 06:18 PM
I mean, that's just not right.

David Jaco was 6'6" and not far removed from beating Razor Ruddock. Tyrell Biggs was 6'5" and the undefeated #1 contender at the time. Jose Ribalta was a rummy but he was 6'5" and beat Leon Spinks!

Thomas knocked the shit out of all 3 of those guys. Tony Tucker and Mitch Green were both 6'5" and lost to Tyson.

And then there was Lennox Lewis who is 6'5" and fairly well whupped him. But by then he was washed. He was the caricature you're portraying him as now. So he couldn't dodge those jabs to get inside and he was slow enough that if he did get in there, fighters just leaned on him because he couldn't do that little deke and drill 'em with the uppercut anymore; just wasn't fast enough.

Tyson fought plenty of tall fighters and handled all of them when he was in the prime we're talking about. When he got to the latter half of his career and tried to be a puncher, he struggled against them. But again, I just think that's the version you remember of him - not the version of him in his prime.

I’m sure you’re right. I only googles the question and looked at the results. Didn’t really go in depth. But yeah now that you mention it I think I remember that.

Edit: also just re googled the question and must have not looked properly earlier. Yeah you’re very correct.

Coochie liquor
03-09-2023, 06:19 PM
By the time Tyson fought Douglas, he'd become lazy, both in his prep and in his actual technique. He wasn't using his jab hardly at all, didn't work the angles, he just walked into people and tried to get the uppercut to connect. That was his whole gameplan by the time he got to Douglas. And Douglas fought the fight of his life; he never looked that good, or even close, ever again.

go back to when Tyson was still actually boxing at a high level, and I think he could beat anybody I've ever seen.

After reading this and DJ’s post I’ll admit you guys are probably closer to right than I am.

Megatron96
03-09-2023, 06:27 PM
After reading this and DJ’s post I’ll admit you guys are probably closer to right than I am.

I remember the Douglas fight pretty well, because my brother and I ended up getting into a pretty good fight over it. Few hands were thrown after the decision.

Bottom line, I saw the fall off in Tyson, my brother hadn't. We put $200 on the fight, and Douglas ended up winning. I was being a poor winner, laughing and carrying on, and he lost it.

But we'd watched every Tyson fight except his first one? together. Tyson was a monster. All that speed, power and an absolute assassin. Maybe the best boxer i ever saw, and my favorite fighter was Ali. Then he just stopped being a boxer at some point, and was just a thug. Had seen enough of Douglas to know that he wasn't great, but he had that jack-hammer jab. Some fights anyway. Between that length and jab, and the erosion of Tyson's skills/technique, i thought it was a good bet.

Pablo
03-09-2023, 06:29 PM
Actual footage of Bruce Lee going down after taking a liver shot from Mike:

https://i.gifer.com/N6wo.gif

Coochie liquor
03-09-2023, 07:24 PM
I remember the Douglas fight pretty well, because my brother and I ended up getting into a pretty good fight over it. Few hands were thrown after the decision.

Bottom line, I saw the fall off in Tyson, my brother hadn't. We put $200 on the fight, and Douglas ended up winning. I was being a poor winner, laughing and carrying on, and he lost it.

But we'd watched every Tyson fight except his first one? together. Tyson was a monster. All that speed, power and an absolute assassin. Maybe the best boxer i ever saw, and my favorite fighter was Ali. Then he just stopped being a boxer at some point, and was just a thug. Had seen enough of Douglas to know that he wasn't great, but he had that jack-hammer jab. Some fights anyway. Between that length and jab, and the erosion of Tyson's skills/technique, i thought it was a good bet.

I was in your brothers head space at that point. I thought Mike was unstoppable. But I’ve been known to live in the past some.

tredadda
03-09-2023, 07:47 PM
Post-prison Mike Tyson superseded the savage killer 'Kid Dynamite' Tyson in most of their memories.

There just wasn't an area he didn't excel. The only fighter that might have given him trouble was the nuclear experiment gone awry, Klitschko. Because he was just so goddamn bit.

But young Tyson was a force of nature.

No doubts. People were so enamored with Tyson’s power that they think he was some black Rocky Balboa. Prime Tyson was arguably one of if not the most complete fighters of all time.

tredadda
03-09-2023, 07:53 PM
Tyson is 220lbs and built like a brick shit house.

Lee is probably 135lbs soaking wet.

Lee would get destroyed.

If it was a sanctioned fight with rules, Bruce would have a chance as long as he didn’t get hit. If Tyson gets a solid shot in that’s it. He would break Lee. Non sanctioned Tyson wins even faster.

tredadda
03-09-2023, 08:06 PM
You think Mike Tyson didn't fight guys that were bigger than him? Everyone he fought had a reach advantage - he knew how to deal with it.

As has been noted, he was so damn hard to keep out of your kitchen because he'd just keep coming. He'd get that head down behind his gloves and keep you from landing anything square then he'd just pursue, pursue, pursue. If you tried to stand there and keep him back with jabs, that would work - for awhile. But he was cat quick and the moment you missed with a jab, he inside on you. Now you're trying to back up to re-gain the space you lost be he's not letting you. Because again - he just kept coming.

And here's one of my favorite things about Tyson and I've alluded to it before - he's one of the best displays of the kinetic chain in action you will ever see. Tyson could step and delivery a punch that used that step to his advantage. He was able to use that step to help rotate his hips and in so doing take all that energy, put it into his back and then rotate his torso through and put a TON of energy into the punch.

So sure - try to keep him at distance. It can work if you're pristine in your execution or if he's not on his game. But you're not trying anything that hasn't been tried. He knows how to deal with length; he's been doing it his entire career. He's GOING to get inside you at some point and he's probably going to deliver serious damage when he does. So you'd better be able to take a wallop and then you'd better hope you catch him off balance and put one on the button.

Because you're not gonna stick and move your way to a win against prime Tyson. He was in too great a shape, he was too fast, he was too powerful and he was, in a seemingly impossible convergence, a relentless technician. It's hard to be as persistent AND as sound as he was. A war of attrition isn't gonna work.

This is an excellent write up. Tyson would get inside of Fury which neutralizes that reach advantage and due to size differences would just wear that body out with power shot after power shot.

jd1020
03-09-2023, 08:09 PM
If it was a sanctioned fight with rules, Bruce would have a chance as long as he didn’t get hit. If Tyson gets a solid shot in that’s it. He would break Lee. Non sanctioned Tyson wins even faster.

How exactly do you think a man is not going to get hit inside a caged environment?

I dont give a fuck how much faster you think Lee is than Tyson, a man on the level of Tyson is going to land punches.

Didn't Bruce Lee only have 1 official fight? We are sitting here discussing whether or not a man who built his accolades in the movies and demonstrations at 130lbs could beat one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Holy shit balls.

ThaVirus
03-09-2023, 08:35 PM
Yes, but he was a grown man who weighed 135 pounds. Versus a regular guy on the street? Of course Lee would dominate. Against Tyson? 135 pounds isn't close to enough to stop a prime Mike Tyson from doing whatever he wants.

I had an issue with your comment claiming Tyson would simply peel Lee’s hands off his neck like a grown man would against a 12 year old lol that’s too much

Lee was a small dude but anyone who can do two-finger, one-handed push-ups is definitely going to be able to maintain a chokehold if you give it to him.

Coochie liquor
03-10-2023, 12:26 AM
I had an issue with your comment claiming Tyson would simply peel Lee’s hands off his neck like a grown man would against a 12 year old lol that’s too much

Lee was a small dude but anyone who can do two-finger, one-handed push-ups is definitely going to be able to maintain a chokehold if you give it to him.

Oh shit!! ROFLROFL

rfaulk34
03-10-2023, 12:32 AM
Who would win in a fight between Mike Tyson, and Tyson Fury?

I think Fury would smash Mike. Mike wouldn’t be able to get close enough to land those punches. JMO

Which is exactly why you don't know a punch bowl from a punch to your asshole!!

Tyson would knock him out.

Coochie liquor
03-10-2023, 12:39 AM
Which is why I wanna tongue punch your asshole!!

Tyson would knock him out.

Did you just say you wanna tongue punch my asshole??? Wtf, FREAK!!!! Don’t make me block you! AGAIN LMAO

PAChiefsGuy
03-10-2023, 01:55 AM
How exactly do you think a man is not going to get hit inside a caged environment?

I dont give a **** how much faster you think Lee is than Tyson, a man on the level of Tyson is going to land punches.

Didn't Bruce Lee only have 1 official fight? We are sitting here discussing whether or not a man who built his accolades in the movies and demonstrations at 130lbs could beat one of the greatest heavyweights of all time. Holy shit balls.

Right.

There no way Bruce Lee would win. He's just not big enough. Now if he was built like any decent sized heavyweight he would easily win but that's simply not the case.

Skill wise let's be honest skill wise Bruce Lee is on another level but there's just too much of a weight difference

tredadda
03-10-2023, 07:53 AM
Did you just say you wanna tongue punch my asshole??? Wtf, FREAK!!!! Don’t make me block you! AGAIN LMAO

On YouTube if you search for Mike Tyson there is a 40 minute something video on all of his knockouts. You should check it out as it was well done and they highlight why he was able to knock these guys out. It gives a completely different perspective on Mike and shows how devastating of an all around fighter he was.

AdolfOliverBush
03-10-2023, 08:10 AM
I had an issue with your comment claiming Tyson would simply peel Lee’s hands off his neck like a grown man would against a 12 year old lol that’s too much

Lee was a small dude but anyone who can do two-finger, one-handed push-ups is definitely going to be able to maintain a chokehold if you give it to him.

Ok, the 12-year-old part was hyperbole, but I do think Tyson could get out of any hold Lee managed to pull off, through sheer strength.

Coochie liquor
03-10-2023, 10:20 AM
On YouTube if you search for Mike Tyson there is a 40 minute something video on all of his knockouts. You should check it out as it was well done and they highlight why he was able to knock these guys out. It gives a completely different perspective on Mike and shows how devastating of an all around fighter he was.

I just happen to have some time on my hands. Will find it and watch! Thanks!!

Valiant
03-10-2023, 10:40 AM
I had an issue with your comment claiming Tyson would simply peel Lee’s hands off his neck like a grown man would against a 12 year old lol that’s too much

Lee was a small dude but anyone who can do two-finger, one-handed push-ups is definitely going to be able to maintain a chokehold if you give it to him.

I don't know. I had a friend about 150, black belt. 100 pull ups easy, has done the split finger push ups. When we grapple his strength doesn't mean shit against my 270lbs. I hate joint locks though.

I assume Bruce Lee to Tyson would be even more apparent.

Maybe a lee vs Mayweather or habib would be better.

Shoes
03-10-2023, 11:05 AM
Not quite the same question but I've always wondered, in a UFC match- what's the max weight you could take on vs a women's champion? Strawweight is 115 lbs. Obviously getting submitted or choked out is a very real (and likely) possibility, but being 80+lbs heavier is an insane advantage.

Someone chime in here.

New World Order
03-10-2023, 11:08 AM
Strength: Tyson

Punching: Tyson

Speed: Probably Tyson

Chewing: Tyson

ThaVirus
03-10-2023, 11:17 AM
I don't know. I had a friend about 150, black belt. 100 pull ups easy, has done the split finger push ups. When we grapple his strength doesn't mean shit against my 270lbs. I hate joint locks though.

I assume Bruce Lee to Tyson would be even more apparent.

Maybe a lee vs Mayweather or habib would be better.

Idk, man. Your experience is your experience but I find it hard to believe.

There are a ton of chokes that are just, anatomically speaking, nearly impossible to break out of - like a rear naked chokehold.

I'm not saying that Lee would even be able to get Tyson into one, again, just arguing that I don't think it'd be some superhero movie situation where Tyson simply broke out of any hold Lee had him in through sheer strength.

rfaulk34
03-10-2023, 11:34 AM
Did you just say you wanna tongue punch my asshole??? Wtf, FREAK!!!! Don’t make me block you! AGAIN LMAO

Does it look like my name is TittyMeat? :harumph:

Bowser
03-10-2023, 11:39 AM
This shit is played.

How about a fight between JuJu Smith-Schuster and AJ Brown?

Megatron96
03-10-2023, 11:41 AM
This shit is played.

How about a fight between JuJu Smith-Schuster and AJ Brown?

Boxing or MMA style?

kepp
03-10-2023, 11:51 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/7e0up4.jpg

tredadda
03-10-2023, 12:08 PM
I just happen to have some time on my hands. Will find it and watch! Thanks!!

Awesome. Let me know what you think.

Balto
03-10-2023, 12:16 PM
I don't know. I had a friend about 150, black belt. 100 pull ups easy, has done the split finger push ups. When we grapple his strength doesn't mean shit against my 270lbs. I hate joint locks though.

I assume Bruce Lee to Tyson would be even more apparent.

Maybe a lee vs Mayweather or habib would be better.

Would LOVE to see Mayweather try to dance around being 100% defense crap on Bruce Lee. That would be fun to watch.

Bowser
03-10-2023, 12:50 PM
Boxing or MMA style?

MMA, clearly.

Pitt Gorilla
03-10-2023, 03:05 PM
Wait, people are actually suggesting Lee would win?!? LMAO This place.

htismaqe
03-10-2023, 03:08 PM
Would LOVE to see Mayweather try to dance around being 100% defense crap on Bruce Lee. That would be fun to watch.

Bruce Lee would have to channel his inner Mayweather against Tyson, too.

Tyson would only need to connect 1 time for it to be over, violently over.

DJ's left nut
03-10-2023, 03:13 PM
Wait, people are actually suggesting Lee would win?!? LMAO This place.

More than that - it's winning 2-1.

I'm just hopeful that the people that voted Lee have been shamed sufficiently to leave CP forever because you're not seeing many people in here talking about the time he punched some guy 8 feet into the air anymore...

RaidersOftheCellar
03-10-2023, 03:15 PM
Tyson might not be able to land any haymakers, but I'm not really sure how Lee would hurt a prime Iron Mike. He might be able to get him with the touch of death, but Tyson's pectoral muscles were bigger than Bruce Lee's head.

-King-
03-10-2023, 03:19 PM
I'm only 30 so I didn't grow up around the Bruce Lee hype so I've never understood how an actor became so revered when it comes to fighting. I'm sure he was a great martial artist but everything around him is hypothetical because no one has ever seen him in an actual fight. It's so fascinating. It's like the Chuck Norris memes except no one treats it like a meme.

DJ's left nut
03-10-2023, 03:25 PM
I'm only 30 so I didn't grow up around the Bruce Lee hype so I've never understood how an actor became so revered when it comes to fighting. I'm sure he was a great martial artist but everything around him is hypothetical because no one has ever seen him in an actual fight. It's so fascinating. It's like the Chuck Norris memes except no one treats it like a meme.

One hell of a publicist...

PAChiefsGuy
03-10-2023, 03:45 PM
I'm only 30 so I didn't grow up around the Bruce Lee hype so I've never understood how an actor became so revered when it comes to fighting. I'm sure he was a great martial artist but everything around him is hypothetical because no one has ever seen him in an actual fight. It's so fascinating. It's like the Chuck Norris memes except no one treats it like a meme.

Lets not get carried away here. I'm sure Bruce Lee could of been a hell of a fighter if he would have trained for it and gotten into some professional fights. I mean there's stories about him and how quick he was and how hard he hit you just have to Google it. While his films are fiction, you can see he had ability and most of all his intensity was off the charts.

In addition to LeBell, Lee worked for years with the likes of Norris and Joe Lewis, two of the most celebrated non-boxing fighters of their day. Before he became an action star, Norris was the world middleweight karate champion from 1968 to 1974. Lewis won what is regarded as both the first kickboxing match in the U.S. and the bridge between the karate point fighting era and the full-contact kickboxing we know today.

UFC welterweight Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, unusual among prominent mixed martial artists for being a karate stylist, amassed a 57-0 record as a professional and amateur kickboxer before joining the UFC. He knew Lewis personally and says Lewis told him one of the hardest kicks he'd ever endured was from Bruce Lee. Lewis was a heavyweight kickboxer; Lee was 5-foot-8 and weighed less than 150 pounds.

"You can't tell me that Bruce Lee is not a hard guy, wasn't a good martial artist, wasn't a good fighter, if you got guys like Joe telling me that," Thompson says.

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29266542/could-bruce-lee-win-real-fight

Megatron96
03-10-2023, 06:07 PM
Lets not get carried away here. I'm sure Bruce Lee could of been a hell of a fighter if he would have trained for it and gotten into some professional fights. I mean there's stories about him and how quick he was and how hard he hit you just have to Google it. While his films are fiction, you can see he had ability and most of all his intensity was off the charts.

In addition to LeBell, Lee worked for years with the likes of Norris and Joe Lewis, two of the most celebrated non-boxing fighters of their day. Before he became an action star, Norris was the world middleweight karate champion from 1968 to 1974. Lewis won what is regarded as both the first kickboxing match in the U.S. and the bridge between the karate point fighting era and the full-contact kickboxing we know today.

UFC welterweight Stephen "Wonderboy" Thompson, unusual among prominent mixed martial artists for being a karate stylist, amassed a 57-0 record as a professional and amateur kickboxer before joining the UFC. He knew Lewis personally and says Lewis told him one of the hardest kicks he'd ever endured was from Bruce Lee. Lewis was a heavyweight kickboxer; Lee was 5-foot-8 and weighed less than 150 pounds.

"You can't tell me that Bruce Lee is not a hard guy, wasn't a good martial artist, wasn't a good fighter, if you got guys like Joe telling me that," Thompson says.

https://www.espn.com/espn/story/_/id/29266542/could-bruce-lee-win-real-fight

Yeah, Bruce's speed/quickness/agility were well-documented. He was so fast, that the directors' of all his films and the TV show the Green Hornet asked him to slow down so they could capture what he was doing. And his strength/power was nearly as legendary. He used to replace a 110-lb(unsure of the exact weight over 100) heavy bag every other week, iirc. He kicked/punched the things so hard that in just a couple weeks he'd bust the seams on the things. And somewhere there's tape of him jumping a 5 ft fence almost flat-footed.

But Tyson was a mutant freak as well, and that's the problem. He was just too strong and too fast, and then on top of that in his prime he was one of the best technicians in boxing. I don't think Bruce's edge in speed/quickness would be enough in a sanctioned type of fight.

Against a normal heavyweight, maybe. Might even give him better than even odds against a normal heavyweight. Kind of Holyfield's size/strength/quickness.

Pitt Gorilla
03-10-2023, 09:21 PM
More than that - it's winning 2-1.

I'm just hopeful that the people that voted Lee have been shamed sufficiently to leave CP forever because you're not seeing many people in here talking about the time he punched some guy 8 feet into the air anymore...

I don't think people understand how TERRIFYING Tyson was. Once the bell was rung, your shit was over. OVER. I really wasn't a boxing fan as a kid, but damn, it was CLEAR how insane Tyson was. Never before or since seen someone with that combination of power/speed/aggression in that compact size.

lcarus
03-11-2023, 04:47 AM
Weight classes exist for a reason

Couch-Potato
03-11-2023, 05:05 AM
As much as I'd like to believe in Bruce Lee, I have a very hard time believing he could handle Mike. Tyson was manhandling heavyweight boxers in his prime, you can watch his first 20 fights in 20 minutes on youtube and they're all knockouts. Take those gloves off for a bareknuckle fight, and man, Bruce's got some real trouble coming at his 150 lb frame.

Pablo
10-15-2023, 06:20 PM
Bump. Tiger v guy in armor thread got me thinking. Could Bruce Lee survive Mike Tyson if he got to wear a suit of armor?

Don’t think so still

JohnnyV13
10-15-2023, 06:59 PM
I'm only 30 so I didn't grow up around the Bruce Lee hype so I've never understood how an actor became so revered when it comes to fighting. I'm sure he was a great martial artist but everything around him is hypothetical because no one has ever seen him in an actual fight. It's so fascinating. It's like the Chuck Norris memes except no one treats it like a meme.

Bruce Lee, actual fight (ask and ye shall receive)

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P.S. Only way Bruce Lee wins is if the rules include weapons. Then Lee's weapon's mastery might win it for him.

srvy
10-15-2023, 07:31 PM
Who is who in this?

Garcia Bronco
10-15-2023, 10:18 PM
Who is who in this?

You can't tell? At the start of the video he's the one on the left.

Simply Red
10-15-2023, 10:30 PM
Bruce Lee, actual fight (ask and ye shall receive)

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/rPAoNPJ2Mas?si=-CaDmukGuwdVp91i" title="YouTube video player" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

P.S. Only way Bruce Lee wins is if the rules include weapons. Then Lee's weapon's mastery might win it for him.

Anyone else confused by the Joe Lewis part?

JohnnyV13
10-16-2023, 02:52 PM
Anyone else confused by the Joe Lewis part?

70s martial arts star. Big Karate guy.

seamonster
10-16-2023, 04:04 PM
Sounds like an early 2000's meme but Walker Texas Ranger would in all reality **** Mike up. Norris was a Muchado trained Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt with a world class kickboxing background. He'd get him on the ground and within a couple minutes end the fight in a submission or make Tyson go to sleep. But Bruce, he'd be forced to go toe to toe with the most athletic heavyweight fighter in the history of mankind and all he's got is a rudimentary ground game. If you want to standup and box Tyson you've got no chance to survive the onslaught He's one of the quickest heavy weights of any sport to walk the earth and he'd send Lee to the hospital if they were ever in a sanctioned fight. Bruce Lee was probably real good at striking and I'd put money on him holding his own against Crawford or Floyd. Kickboxers (lee) do well against boxers in their weight class.

HC_Chief
10-16-2023, 04:44 PM
Tyson in his prime would have fucked up any and all of those dudes.

DJ's left nut
10-16-2023, 04:50 PM
Who would win in a footrace, Usain Bolt or Ezra Miller?

Who's a better pass rusher, Reggie White or Dwayne Johnson?

Who would win a game of one on one, LeBron James or Wesley Snipes?

Equally sane questions.

Otter
10-16-2023, 05:27 PM
Tyson grabs one of the foot strikes in mid air and "SNAP".

Mahomes_Is_God
10-17-2023, 12:09 AM
I'm gonna go with the guy who we seen in real fights, and not the movie actor. Call me crazy.

TLO
03-07-2024, 01:37 PM
But then you add Jake Paul into the mix... And you got a 33.3% chance at best of winning.

Pablo
03-07-2024, 02:16 PM
Bruce Lee was 4’10” and weighed 88 lbs. Tyson was slightly bigger than that