Chiefs reportedly 'fascinated' by Geno Smith

[Ace Gunner]

The Kansas City Chiefs are "fascinated" by West Virginia Mountaineers quarterback Geno Smith, according to Ian Rapoport.

Smith was terrific at his pro day and solidified his status as a top 10 pick last week, with most experts believing he will be one of the first selections off the board at the 2013 NFL Draft. Our own Dan Kadar has Smith heading to the Jacksonville Jaguars at No. 2 overall in SB Nation's latest mock draft.

Joel Thorman of Arrowhead Pride calls the move a smokescreen and writes, "Is this the worst smokescreen in draft history? Honestly, it might be."

More: Chiefs offseason coverage at Arrowhead Pride
The Chiefs just traded one second-round pick in the upcoming NFL Draft and a conditional third-round choice that could become a second in next year's draft as well for quarterback Alex Smith. That's a high price to pay for the team to also consider such a large draft investment in a rookie like Geno Smith.

Smith threw for 98 touchdowns and 21 interceptions in his four-year career at West Virginia.


http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/3/27/4152292/kansas-city-chiefs-geno-smith-nfl-draft

[Ace Gunner]

can't believe the Geno-ites didn't already post this. y'all are slippin.. welp.

[suds79]

Oh no here we go again. :facepalm: Getting hopes up.

People are going to believe what they want to believe.

Don't buy it folks. Just let this one go.

[TEX]

Let the draft games begin...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

It's still the only selection that really makes sense. If they do take him...Best....offseason......EVER!!! The term smokescreen is dumb as fuck.

[BlackHelicopters]

fascinated is a strong word. intrigued, smitten.................

[mcaj22]

It's still the only selection that really makes sense. If they do take him...Best....offseason......EVER!!! The term smokescreen is dumb as ****.

and if they dont draft him then the term "smokescreen" is not dumb as **** and was at least put to its use.

[Rausch]

It's still the only selection that really makes sense. If they do take him...Best....offseason......EVER!!! The term smokescreen is dumb as ****.

Looking at what we did (and still might do) to improve the secondary and then 3 new QB's (one a top rated rookie) would...just....

http://img516.imageshack.us/img516/2051/jimp.gif

[milkman]

can't believe the Geno-ites didn't already post this. y'all are slippin.. welp.

Maybe if you'd read a couple of other threads, you'd see that the report of the Chiefs fascination with Geno has already been posted.

But I get it.

You just gotta start that new thread as soon as you see it ekswhere.

But, hey, thanks for playing.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

theres still hope!!!

[In58men]

Screens of smokeness

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Smokescreen.

This FO is terrible at showing their hand.

Trying to 'trade' Cassel when it was known he would be released...

Acting like you are interested in Geno after you trade for Alex Smith and give Chase a healthy backup QB contract...

... :Palm on Face"

[WV]

It's still the only selection that really makes sense. If they do take him...Best....offseason......EVER!!! The term smokescreen is dumb as ****.

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[58-4ever]

Smells like a smoke screen, but I'll fap anyway.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Smokescreen doesn't even make sense in this case. If the Chiefs really are interested they take him bar none. JACKSONVILLE is the team that matters in that case. If Philly or Buffalo like him that's the team they've got to leapfrog and we are in the catbird's seat to rape for picks if we aren't going to take Geno. If they really like him, they stay put and just take him.

[patteeu]

Maybe if you'd read a couple of other threads, you'd see that the report of the Chiefs fascination with Geno has already been posted.

But I get it.

You just gotta start that new thread as soon as you see it ekswhere.

But, hey, thanks for playing.

New news deserves it's own thread so people don't have to continue to wade through all the bullshit sidetracks that mega-threads inevitably develop.

[Ace Gunner]

Maybe if you'd read a couple of other threads, you'd see that the report of the Chiefs fascination with Geno has already been posted.

But I get it.

You just gotta start that new thread as soon as you see it ekswhere.

But, hey, thanks for playing.

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1428864_o.gif

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

So now we gotta have 2 No.1's and 2 no.2's or we ain't tradin our franchise QBOTF

[Ace Gunner]

New news deserves it's own thread so people don't have to continue to wade through all the bullshit sidetracks that mega-threads inevitably develop.

agreed and this week has been slow for Chiefs news.

[BoneKrusher]

trying to get the second round pick back.

[Frankie]

Maybe if you'd read a couple of other threads, you'd see that the report of the Chiefs fascination with Geno has already been posted.

But I get it.

You just gotta start that new thread as soon as you see it ekswhere.

But, hey, thanks for playing.

He posted it because there's a NEW media piece about it.

And as for the newly announced "fascination", I think KC is just trying to sell 1.1 to other teams coveting Geno. They are just trying to stir up competition for it. That's all.

[Ace Gunner]

And OBTW -- I'd still grab Geno and find some FA stiff to play OT.

AND I'd Slap that whiny teary face off Branden Albert and kick his ass back onto that OL.

[milkman]

http://gifsoup.com/webroot/animatedgifs2/1428864_o.gif

Not giving you shit for starting a new thread.

Giving you shit for being a useless dumbass, just like your buddy patteau.

[mikey23545]

Fascinated in the same way as drivers gawking at a 10 car pileup on the other side of the freeway...

[Fansy the Famous Bard]

I really hope he comes into KC for a Private work out and blows their socks off. Leave no doubt, Geno.

[Frankie]

Actually if I'm the Chiefs I bring him to KC for the PVO. That is sure to plant a bug in the pants of those teams who might be interested in him and loosen their grip on their draft choices.

[King_Chief_Fan]

the facination of parlaying choices to more choices

he isn't going to be a QB for the Chiefs:)

[milkman]

Actually if I'm the Chiefs I bring him to KC for the PVO. That is sure to plant a bug in the pants of those teams who might be interested in him and loosen their grip on their draft choices.

I bet the Chiefs haven't thought of this.












Oh.....wait.

:facepalm:

[Molitoth]

the facination of parlaying choices to more choices

he isn't going to be a QB for the Chiefs:)

...and true fans everywhere rejoiced.

[Simply Red]

So we ARE or we're NOT getting Geno? Guyz does anyone know?!?!?!!?!?!

[mr. tegu]

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[Ace Gunner]

So we ARE or we're NOT getting Geno? Guyz does anyone know?!?!?!!?!?!

:)

[WakkaWakka]

Don't **** with me Chiefs! I'm already on the ledge!

[Frankie]

I bet the Chiefs haven't thought of this.












Oh.....wait.

:facepalm:If they have brought him I didn't hear it. Have they?

[Ace Gunner]

http://i.qkme.me/36grz4.jpg

http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lifp10G4VW1qauyf1o1_500.gif

[Direckshun]

Alex Smith DOES NOT have an extension.

That's worth remembering.

[ptlyon]

Who is this Joel Thorman asshole douchebag and where can I find him?

[Coogs]

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

[ChiefMojo]

And the hopes of the Geno or bust crowd crawl back out of the hole again. :-0

It's going to hurt is all I'm going to say.

[ptlyon]

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

Translation: Buh Bye to the 8.5 million dollar backup, injury prone qb that is on IR

[Simply Red]

Alex Smith DOES NOT have an extension.

That's worth remembering.

OMG prepare yourselves for a burst of black Geno-Penis in Arrowhead!!

[Ace Gunner]

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

agreed, and with a team so devoid of QB talent in decades past, it is time to make that kind of commitment to the position. Hell, they spent $10 mil/year on matty c, wasted cash, we all know, but that is 75% of $13 mil.

[The Franchise]

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

I've stated this multiple times before. Get ready for the bullshit.

[Jerm]

I don't believe they're trading Albert and they filled almost all of our needs in FA so they are absolutely in a position to take Geno.....if they want.

I think is pro day might have swayed them...how much so we'll see.

Very well could be a smokescreen but I will say I honestly will not be surprised at all if we take him. I'd actually be more surprised if we took Joeckel.

You can never have too much depth at QB...

[The Franchise]

Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi

to

Alex Smith, Geno Smith and Chase Daniel


QB situation fixed in ONE offseason.

[milkman]

If they have brought him I didn't hear it. Have they?

It's been reported Geno and Dee Millner are coming to KC for private workouts.

Posted in a couple of threads.

[DTLB58]

Let the draft games begin...

Smoke show. Gotta give it to Dorsey/Reid they are trying. But ultimately this means, one month away from draft day, nobody is calling or giving a serious offer, yet.

[Simply Red]

Chiefs reportedly 'fascinated' by Geno Smith

[milkman]

.According to a article on NFL.com the Chiefs are very serious about Geno Smith. They are bring Smith and Millner to Kansas City for a workout.

**** yea. Guys there is still hope. And the article said there bringing Smith and Millner both to Kansas City. So yes that means everybody on the Chiefs staff will be there.

Also said the Chiefs are fascinated by Smith and said the Chiefs are deep into evaluating him. That means they are SERIOUSLY considering drafting him.

[YayMike]

Smoke show. Gotta give it to Dorsey/Reid they are trying. But ultimately this means, one month away from draft day, nobody is calling or giving a serious offer, yet.

Agreed. If no one gives a serious offer I'd love to see Albert kept at the tag and draft Geno fucking Smith!

[Three7s]

Agreed. If no one gives a serious offer I'd love to see Albert kept at the tag and draft Geno ****ing Smith!
And then have him compete with Alex Smith and blow him out of the water!

[The Franchise]

And then have him compete with Alex Smith and blow him out of the water!

I guarantee you that if we draft Geno Smith......that Alex Smith will be named the 2013 starter before the season even begins.

[tooge]

I don't get the idea of a smokescreen when we can pick whomever we choose. If the Chiefs think he's great, they will take him. Plain and simple. If they say he's great, but then don't intend to take him, do other teams really think he's great just because the chiefs said so? I don't think so. It makes no sense.

The smokescreen angle only makes sense if you are trying to get a player and don't want anyone to know who it is so that nobody right behind you that also wants the same player, jumps ahead of you.

Since we can take whoever we want, this play is pointless.

[DTLB58]

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.

Agreed.

[The Franchise]

I don't get the idea of a smokescreen when we can pick whomever we choose. If the Chiefs think he's great, they will take him. Plain and simple. If they say he's great, but then don't intend to take him, do other teams really think he's great just because the chiefs said so? I don't think so. It makes no sense.

The smokescreen angle only makes sense if you are trying to get a player and don't want anyone to know who it is so that nobody right behind you that also wants the same player, jumps ahead of you.

Since we can take whoever we want, this play is pointless.

It's a smokescreen to try and get people to trade up.

[YayMike]

I guarantee you that if we draft Geno Smith......that Alex Smith will be named the 2013 starter before the season even begins.

And that's fine. If Alex does great in 2013 we could trade him when Geno is ready. Or if Geno needs another year, he sits and we let Alex walks after 2014.

[Ace Gunner]

I don't get the idea of a smokescreen when we can pick whomever we choose. If the Chiefs think he's great, they will take him. Plain and simple. If they say he's great, but then don't intend to take him, do other teams really think he's great just because the chiefs said so? I don't think so. It makes no sense.

The smokescreen angle only makes sense if you are trying to get a player and don't want anyone to know who it is so that nobody right behind you that also wants the same player, jumps ahead of you.

Since we can take whoever we want, this play is pointless.

misused, I think folks are trying to say the staff is attempting to bait teams.

[ptlyon]

I guarantee you that if we draft Geno Smith......that Alex Smith will be named the 2013 starter before the season even begins.

Already has

[tooge]

It's a smokescreen to try and get people to trade up.

I get that, but what part of it is going to make another NFL team trade up, the chiefs "evaluation" of Geno?

You mean to tell me that Arizona or Buffalo thought Geno was OK, but now that KC is fascinated by him, he is great, and worthy of trading up for? That doesn't make sense.

Either other teams think he is worthy of a number one pick, or they don't. KC being fascinated by him isn't going to change that. The smokescreen argument doesn't hold water when you are picking number one.

[Rasputin]

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[Mr. Laz]

smokescreen is probably not the right term


'feigning interest' to raise interest/value for Geno Smith would probably be better verbiage.

[Dave Lane]

Smokescreen.

This FO is terrible at showing their hand.

Trying to 'trade' Cassel when it was known he would be released...

Acting like you are interested in Geno after you trade for Alex Smith and give Chase a healthy backup QB contract...

... :Palm on Face"

Chase is not an option other than to look stupid and hold a clipboard. He and Stanzi can battle it out for whos inactive each week.

[patteeu]

I get that, but what part of it is going to make another NFL team trade up, the chiefs "evaluation" of Geno?

You mean to tell me that Arizona or Buffalo thought Geno was OK, but now that KC is fascinated by him, he is great, and worthy of trading up for? That doesn't make sense.

Either other teams think he is worthy of a number one pick, or they don't. KC being fascinated by him isn't going to change that. The smokescreen argument doesn't hold water when you are picking number one.

I suppose it could be that if Arizona or Buffalo wanted Geno, they might think they only have to jump ahead of Oakland to get him, but if it looks like the Chiefs have an interest but aren't committed to Geno completely, they might be able to insure they get him by paying us enough to make up our mind. But for the most part, I agree with you.

[cabletech94]

cabletech94="fascinated".

[tooge]

smokescreen is probably not the right term


'feigning interest' to raise interest/value for Geno Smith would probably be better verbiage.

I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.

[The Franchise]

I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.

It's not about changing Buffalo's evaluation. It's making them believe that he's a viable option for the #1 draft pick. Now Buffalo will have to call us and make an offer that we value more than just drafting Geno ourselves.

[cabletech94]

I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.

i'm pretty sure that the chef's entire goal is to nab moar picks. that is all.

[tooge]

It's not about changing Buffalo's evaluation. It's making them believe that he's a viable option for the #1 draft pick. Now Buffalo will have to call us and make an offer that we value more than just drafting Geno ourselves.

I get this angle, but I still think teams know at this point whether or not they would give up the farm for Geno. I think if the Chiefs don't take him, that is when the smokescreens start coming into play, like the ones Philly, Oakland etc. have been putting out there.

[RyFo18]

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[Reerun_KC]

If this is true, True Fan suicide rate will be on the rise....

You don't get to 9-7 by drafting a QB... RG all the way baby!!!

[The Franchise]

I get this angle, but I still think teams know at this point whether or not they would give up the farm for Geno. I think if the Chiefs don't take him, that is when the smokescreens start coming into play, like the ones Philly, Oakland etc. have been putting out there.

Maybe Buffalo is willing to give up the farm.....but they've been low balling us before. Now we show interest in Geno and tell Buffalo that we're just going to draft him instead of taking their offer. They can now either up their offer or stick at their original offer.

[Rausch]

Alex Smith DOES NOT have an extension.

That's worth remembering.

It's a part of my daily affirmation...

[Rausch]

If this is true, True Fan suicide rate will be on the rise....


So it's a win-win!...

[NorthernWV]

Smokescreen.

This FO is terrible at showing their hand.

Trying to 'trade' Cassel when it was known he would be released...

Acting like you are interested in Geno after you trade for Alex Smith and give Chase a healthy backup QB contract...

... :Palm on Face"

I like how you always say (Ive seen you post it multiple times) "Relax guys, Nobody really knows what the front office is thinking. Its obviously just a smokescreen" Well, how do you know what the front office is thinking?

[milkman]

I don't get the idea of a smokescreen when we can pick whomever we choose. If the Chiefs think he's great, they will take him. Plain and simple. If they say he's great, but then don't intend to take him, do other teams really think he's great just because the chiefs said so? I don't think so. It makes no sense.

The smokescreen angle only makes sense if you are trying to get a player and don't want anyone to know who it is so that nobody right behind you that also wants the same player, jumps ahead of you.

Since we can take whoever we want, this play is pointless.

You make a point to show that you are seriously considering him as hyojr pick in order to get teams that are seriously interested to make offers to move into your spot

[Mr. Laz]

I still don't see how showing interest when you hold your own destiny makes any sense.

If I'm Buffalo's GM, and I really want Geno, or I don't, I'm not changing my evaluation of him because of anything the team at number one says. any other draft spot, yes. But, not the team sitting at one.

for one, it just got Geno Smith's name back in the news which raises his profile/hype.

secondly, if someone comes to trade up to #1 with the Chiefs they can talk about how great Geno Smith is and how it 'better be a good offer'. Hard to do that if you've acted like you thought Geno Smith sucked the entire time.

lastly, it's human nature to want what other people want. The more teams that 'act' like they want Geno Smith, the more people will think about 'wanting Geno Smith'.

[BigRock]

Alex Smith DOES NOT have an extension.

I initially read this as "erection".

[loochy]

Alex Smith DOES NOT have an extension.

That's what she said.

[tooge]

Maybe Buffalo is willing to give up the farm.....but they've been low balling us before. Now we show interest in Geno and tell Buffalo that we're just going to draft him instead of taking their offer. They can now either up their offer or stick at their original offer.

And teams would actually fall for this?

[RealSNR]

Alex Smith does not have a penis

[cabletech94]

And teams would actually fall for this?

the chiefs.:banghead:

[boogblaster]

Ive never smoked a screen .. but cleaned afew then smoked it .....

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

Alex Smith does not have a penis

So Bitter time to get over Geno.

[loochy]

So Bitter time to get over Geno.

getting over Geno does not mean getting under Alex

[In58men]

So Bitter time to get over Geno.

Just have my mutha****in' money ready brah

[Mr. Laz]

And teams would actually fall for this?If Geno Smith is THE GUY they want, can the afford to take the chance?

[Chris Meck]

I don't think Reid and Dorsey have any intentions of gutting through a losing season.
They took Alex Smith because he was the best vet available. With even average QB play, this team challenges for the AFC west title.
They took Daniels because Brady Quinn is as bad as Matt Cassel. If Alex got hurt, we'd be fucked. So Daniels it is, he at least can be a solid backup.

None of this means they think either of these guys is a franchise guy. They were the best fits from the veteran market.

None of this would preclude taking the best QB in the draft if that's what they want to do. If they feel that Barkley/Nassib/Manuel are comparable to Geno, then yeah, they'd like to acquire a buttload of picks and move down a little and get a guy they feel good about as a potential franchise guy. I think this is all just weighing options.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

getting over Geno does not mean getting under Alex

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

[bevischief]

:popcorn:

[Reerun_KC]

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

Wrong... Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the long term fans of this franchise...

I have watched since 1988 nothing but garbage or rehashed trash play QB in KC...

So before you make some claim that the hate is from the draft a QB crowd you might want to research the history of this chickenshit franchise.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

If CP actually believes this I have some ocean front property to sell you in AZ.

[ptlyon]

:popcorn:

:popcorn: :popcorn:

[Chris Meck]

You have a middle of the road starting QB for two years, and a Left Tackle that's played at a near pro bowl level on a one year deal. You have a management structure that's shown a past commitment to the QB position. What exactly about this situation says "no" to a QB at 1 as opposed to...a LT?

[Mr. Laz]

I don't think Reid and Dorsey have any intentions of gutting through a losing season.
They took Alex Smith because he was the best vet available. With even average QB play, this team challenges for the AFC west title.
They took Daniels because Brady Quinn is as bad as Matt Cassel. If Alex got hurt, we'd be ****ed. So Daniels it is, he at least can be a solid backup.

None of this means they think either of these guys is a franchise guy. They were the best fits from the veteran market.

None of this would preclude taking the best QB in the draft if that's what they want to do. If they feel that Barkley/Nassib/Manuel are comparable to Geno, then yeah, they'd like to acquire a buttload of picks and move down a little and get a guy they feel good about as a potential franchise guy. I think this is all just weighing options.
nice thoughts but imo you don't give up a high,high 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick to do what you suggest.

They had to know that other veterans would come loose.

Is Alex Smith two draft picks better than Kolb,Fitzpatrick etc?


2 slots away from being a 1st round pick which would make the price a 1st and 3rd. That used to be the price of signing a franchise tagged player.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much paid for a casual filler

[keg in kc]

Actually fits into my theory that they decided on Alex Smith in january before they even began draft prep, and 6 weeks later were like "wait, there's a qb in this draft after all? crap."

They're still not taking him.

[RunKC]

Thank God this shit will be over in less than a month.

Oh wait these people will still be crying every fucking day.

[The Franchise]

nice thoughts but imo you don't give up a high,high 2nd round pick and a conditional 3rd round pick to do what you suggest.

They had to know that other veterans would come loose.

Is Alex Smith two draft picks better than Kolb,Fitzpatrick etc?


2 slots away from being a 1st round pick which would make the price a 1st and 3rd. That used to be the price of signing a franchise tagged player.


waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much paid for a casual filler

Giving up that much when you're coming into one of the WORST QB situations in the NFL? Yeah....it makes a little bit of sense.

Even if they thought that other veterans were going to be cut.....you can't be 100% sure. Fitzpatrick was a surprise....and even then...he's basically a smarter Cassel.

Now....do I think that they're realistically going to draft Geno? No. I'd still put it at about a 5-10% chance that they do. But spending 3 picks to instantly fix your QB situation in today's NFL isn't that crazy.

[Direckshun]

Matt Cassel, Brady Quinn and Ricky Stanzi

to

Alex Smith, Geno Smith and Chase Daniel

QB situation fixed in ONE offseason.

No shit.

Not just that, but it would legimately leap about 2/3s of the league in quality.

We would have gone from one of the most talentless, hopeless QB corps to one with a ton of potential.

Fascinating, indeed.

[Pitt Gorilla]

I've said this before, and I will say it again. I do not believe a 1st, 2nd, and conditional pick is too much to spend to upgrade that most important position on the team. Many teams have spent far more than that.

Alex is one heck of an insurance policy at the very least. If we wanted him, we had to get him before March 12th. He has a two year contract. If he pans out to be franchise worthy... great!

Geno has star potential. Too much to pass up IMO. You draft him and let Alex and Geno battle it out.

Alex, Geno, and Chase will cost around 13.5 million to have on the roster this season. That is a lot, but not an excessive amount for the QB position IMO.

Then next season sort it all out on the money end of things.Yup. The Chiefs are a good team if they have a competent QB. Alex Smith provides starting-level quality and allows the Chiefs to win immediately. If Geno develops somewhat quickly, the Chiefs can trade A. Smith similar to how SF did. Daniel should provide quality depth as well.

[RealSNR]

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

Alex Smith has had an abortion of a career. At his best, he was game manager-Kyle Orton good. We could have had game manager Kyle Orton for fucking free.

If he moves beyond that zone, it will be completely unprecedented. And that's what I'm sick of doing. I'm sick of settling for game manager QBs with the expectation that they just take the snaps and protect the football. And I'm sick of taking those QBs with those expectations and saying, "Maybe a miracle will happen and this one will actually be a franchise QB."

It didn't work for Bono, Grbac, or Cassel. Green was the closest thing, and he was 31 when we traded for him.

And until this fuckstick proves that he's not a piece of shit, I will treat him like a piece of shit.

So go fuck yourself and your, "Time to get over Geno" garbage. Alex Smith fucking sucks. As soon as YOU realize that, then the true healing can begin.

[ptlyon]

Yup. The Chiefs are a good team if they have a competent QB. Alex Smith provides starting-level quality and allows the Chiefs to win immediately. If Geno develops somewhat quickly, the Chiefs can trade A. Smith similar to how SF did. Daniel should provide quality depth as well.

Ha. Not for a 2nd. Never ever for a 2nd. We overpaid. Badly.

[Direckshun]

I guarantee you that if we draft Geno Smith......that Alex Smith will be named the 2013 starter before the season even begins.

Which is probably best for Geno.

Honestly, playing behind Alex would be PERFECTO. Smith has been the 1st overall, and has flopped for half a decade before FINALLY understanding what he needed to do to turn shit around.

That's a picture-perfect guy for Geno to sit behind. Add in Chase Daniel's incredibly high character, and Andy Reid as coach.

It's not going to happen. BUT IT FUCKING SHOULD.

[RealSNR]

No shit.

Not just that, but it would legimately leap about 2/3s of the league in quality.

We would have gone from one of the most talentless, hopeless QB corps to one with a ton of potential.

Fascinating, indeed.

And I don't care what we do with those guys. I'm fine with starting Alex Smith for the entire year. And hell, if he actually DOES unprecedentedly surpass expectations, I'm fine with cutting and running with Geno immediately afterward. In a draft like this, we should totally be all about this kind of QB competition, with a good mix of veteran, potential, and America-loving sweetheart.

[Direckshun]

I will also add this:

Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position.

Stabilize it. That's their word.

That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl."

Again, worth remembering.

[saphojunkie]

Which is probably best for Geno.

Honestly, playing behind Alex would be PERFECTO. Smith has been the 1st overall, and has flopped for half a decade before FINALLY understanding what he needed to do to turn shit around.

That's a picture-perfect guy for Geno to sit behind. Add in Chase Daniel's incredibly high character, and Andy Reid as coach.

It's not going to happen. BUT IT ****ING SHOULD.

"Geno, how does it feel being drafted by Kansas City, knowing they just traded for Alex Smith?"

"I feel blessed, to be honest with you. Alex is a great quarterback, and it will be a blessing to be able to learn from him. He can teach me a lot, just having gone through this stuff, too, you know? I mean, he was the first overall pick also, so just having a veteran guy there who understands all that and can show you the ropes as I transition to the National Football League is going to be really helpful. I'm gonna do my best to compete for playing time, but I'm really lucky to be able to have Alex there to push me and teach me."

And then all of Kansas City JIMPs.

[RunKC]

Can't wait to see Alex Smith throw the ball way more and be in an attacking style instead of being forced into a game manager role.

[keg in kc]

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year. His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run. Which is actually a plus in my opinion. And I think he's already shown enough pocket presence and escapability in college that I'd be surprised to see him struggle with pressure at the next level any more than any other rookie QB would.

Does that mean he's going to step on the field and throw for 4500 yards? No. Of course not. But, while on one hand I'm one of the "be patient" guys when it comes to QB development, I also think we've seen enough success lately from rookies that I don't understand this automatic "he needs a year" crap. He's as ready as anyone coming out, aside, obviously, from Andrew Luck.

And while there's about zero chance he'll be drafted here, this is an unusally good situation for a #1 pick to fall into, with established receivers, an established running game, and what should be at least passable line play. This wouldn't be David Carr going to Houston or anything.

[Direckshun]

"Geno, how does it feel being drafted by Kansas City, knowing they just traded for Alex Smith?"

"I feel blessed, to be honest with you. Alex is a great quarterback, and it will be a blessing to be able to learn from him. He can teach me a lot, just having gone through this stuff, too, you know? I mean, he was the first overall pick also, so just having a veteran guy there that can show you the ropes as I transition to the National Football League is going to be really helpful."

And then all of Kansas City JIMPs.

This post is like football viagra.

[Direckshun]

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year. His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run. Which is actually a plus in my opinion. And I think he's already shown enough pocket presence and escapability in college that I'd be surprised to see him struggle with pressure at the next level any more than any other rookie QB would.

Does that mean he's going to step on the field and throw for 4500 yards? No. Of course not. But, while on one hand I'm one of the "be patient" guys when it comes to QB development, I also think we've seen enough success lately from rookies that I don't understand this automatic "he needs a year" crap. He's as ready as anyone coming out, aside, obviously, from Andrew Luck.

And while there's about zero chance he'll be drafted here, this is an unusally good situation for a #1 pick to fall into, with established receivers, an established running game, and what should be at least passable line play. This isn't David Carr going to Houston or anything.

I don't know. He doesn't have a ton of experience in Andy Reid's offense.

There's no crime in letting him marinate in it for a year.

[keg in kc]

I don't know. He doesn't have a ton of experience in Andy Reid's offense.

There's no crime in letting him marinate in it for a year.I don't disagree with that, but I also think you have to give him a chance to win the job. You don't just concede his rookie season. Which is what people are doing.

He's not a special case. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves, or in any way differently than you'd handle any quarterback with top-10 talent.

[RunKC]

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one.

It's stage 3 on the 5 stages of grief.

Draft day it will be depression then shortly after will be acceptance.

[Chief_For_Life58]

I will also add this:

Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position.

Stabilize it. That's their word.

That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl."

Again, worth remembering.

.

[CoMoChief]

In all honesty i bet we draft Geno Smith and sit him for 1-2 years while Alex Smith plays out his contract. Otherwise I think the Chiefs would have already re-signed Alex Smith to a longer deal.

[Direckshun]

I don't disagree with that, but I also think you have to give him a chance to win the job. You don't just concede his rookie season. Which is what people are doing.

He's not a special case. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves, or in any way differently than you'd handle any quarterback with top-10 talent.

I don't disagree.

I don't think any of the Geno backers here have argued that he needs a season.

We're just trying to make the puzzle piece fit with Alex Smith and Chase Daniel.

[Marcellus]

The idea that Geno "needs a year" is one of the strangest fallacies I think I've seen. Even the Geno fans spread that one. To bring up the name that everyone hates to see in the Geno conversation, I think he's as ready to play behind center as RG3 was last year.

If this were remotely true then teams would be lining up to trade their draft for Geno like Washington did for RG3.

You are stretching this a loooong ways.

Geno may end up being a franchise type guy but he is nowhere near the prospect RG3 was.

[keg in kc]

We need to buy Alex Smith a moped for training camp.

[milkman]

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.

You're a fucking moron.

Almost every Geno fan would have been nearly as happy with Barkley or Wilson, before his stock started to fall in offseason activities.

You are the butthurt piece of shit that cried because a majority prferred Geno to Barkley.

[silver5liter]

In all honesty i bet we draft Geno Smith and sit him for 1-2 years while Alex Smith plays out his contract. Otherwise I think the Chiefs would have already re-signed Alex Smith to a longer deal.
We have no idea that they didn't. Dorsey dodged the question

[keg in kc]

If this were remotely true then teams would be lining up to trade their draft for Geno like Washington did for RG3.

You are stretching this a loooong ways.

Geno may end up being a franchise type guy but he is nowhere near the prospect RG3 was.That would be why I went on to say "His passing skill set is comparable, his reads are comparable, the only real difference between the two is that geno doesn't have anything close to the same ability to run."

I believe he's every bit the passing prospect that RG3 was. He is not, however, the athlete that Griffin was. And I've said that for months and months and months.

[B14ckmon]

Lol. These smokescreens are going to be the cause of a dozen suicides on draft day by Chiefs fans.

First the Browns take Cambell.

Then the bogus story about coincidentally all three teams who might want Geno all of a sudden want Matt Flynn.

Then an hour later the Chiefs LOVE Geno?

This is a bluff, and a bluff being called. Lots of bullshit going on between multiple teams.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

I would buy into if we hadn't rushed out and signed chase to a nice backup contract already.

Moving chase to the 3rd spot with his contract is absurd.


We are not drafting Geno. Hopefully other teams will buy into our interest in Geno like some of you on this board. We will make out very well in the draft picks we get back in the trade.

[bevischief]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap1000000154101/article/geno-smith-in-nfl-trouble-because-of-slow-eyes?module=News_CP


Could Geno Smith's 'slow eyes' spell trouble in NFL?

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer

Could Geno Smith's 'slow eyes' spell trouble in NFL?

By Dan Hanzus
Around the League Writer
Published: March 26, 2013 at 05:39 p.m.
Updated: March 26, 2013 at 09:03 p.m.

It's widely believed Geno Smith will be the first quarterback off the board in April's NFL draft.

But is the West Virginia star worthy of a first-round selection? NFL Films guru Greg Cosell doesn't think so, and he explained why during a Tuesday appearance on "The Rich Eisen Podcast."
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According to Cosell, Smith misses too many routine throws, a sign that his ball location isn't as precise as it should be for a pocket passer. Cosell also has concerns about Smith's "slow eyes."

"When you watch a lot of film, you know what the route combinations are, you know where the ball is supposed to go based on the defense and you know when a throw is there," Cosell explained. "And too many times I thought that throws that were there clearly defined, he took an extra beat.

"And in the NFL, that will kill you. You can still complete balls in college like that, but that won't happen in the NFL. And I can't answer whether that's coachable or not."

Cosell -- one of the most respected tape guys in the business -- hit on several prospects during his chat with Eisen:

» N.C. State quarterback Mike Glennon is rising up. "Glennon is a big kid with pocket presence. And one thing that people have to remember about quarterbacks: Size is a talent. We don't think of it that way, but when you're big and tall and you can stand in the pocket and deliver the ball with bodies around you or when you're getting hit, that's a talent."
» Cosell believes Notre Dame linebacker Manti Te'o can be a capable player for multiple seasons, but he doesn't see a star. "I think there's a lot of guys like Manti Te'o. I think he's a solid inside linebacker, who will be a base personnel guy."

» Cosell sees Georgia linebacker Jarvis Jones as a top-10 pick when he watches film. However, he has doubts Jones gets drafted there because of his well-documented health concerns.

» Cosell sees offensive linemen Luke Joeckel (Texas A&M) and Eric Fisher (Central Michigan) as similar talents. Cosell doesn't believe either has the ceiling of Jonathan Ogden, Walter Jones or Orlando Pace, but they are "comfortable movers" who have value because of their great consistency.

» Cosell's uncle was Howard Cosell. I'm assuming I'm the last one to know this, but Eisen told a funny story about an ephemeral meeting with the legendary broadcaster at Yankee Stadium in the early 1990s.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Geno doesn't come off as the sharpest QB in this draft. I agree with that.

[Mr. Laz]

I'd still put it at about a 5-10% chance that they do. But spending 3 picks to instantly fix your QB situation in today's NFL isn't that crazy.
it's possible

[B14ckmon]

Lol. These smokescreens are going to be the cause of a dozen suicides on draft day by Chiefs fans.

First the Browns take Cambell.

Then the bogus story about coincidentally all three teams who might want Geno all of a sudden want Matt Flynn.

Then an hour later the Chiefs LOVE Geno?

This is a bluff, and a bluff being called. Lots of bullshit going on between multiple teams.

I feel like this needs more exposure

[Direckshun]

I feel like this needs more exposure

Enjoy Matt Flynn.

[Coogs]

I feel like this needs more exposure

It's called due diligence. If he is the guy... then you take him. If he is not, you don't. No matter what you have already done or not done with draft picks or via free agency.

Having the #1 overall pick is not about the 2013 football season. It is about the long haul.

[The Franchise]

I feel like this needs more exposure

Matt Flynn, Chad Henne and Blaine Gabbert.

[B14ckmon]

Enjoy Matt Flynn.

You got Paypal? I'd put money on that story being bullshit leaked either by a team wanting the Chiefs to drop their price, or Flynn's agent.

[patteeu]

Geno "Slow Eyes" Smith. It's got a ring to it.

I love the Rich Eisen Podcast. If you haven't subscribed, you ought to give it a try.

[Mr. Laz]

Geno "Slow Eyes" Smith. It's got a ring to it.

I love the Rich Eisen Podcast. If you haven't subscribed, you ought to give it a try.
I thought he looked a little slow during his interviews too.

Maybe he was just trying to be/look thoughtful but if he really does think a little slow then it could hurt his potential in the NFL.

[patteeu]

I thought he looked a little slow during his interviews too.

Maybe he was just trying to be/look thoughtful but if really does think a little slow then it could really hurt his potential in the NFL.

SNR likes guys with slow eyes. ROFL

[BlackHelicopters]

Fascinated? Looking for tall buildings.................

[Ace Gunner]

You have a middle of the road starting QB for two years, and a Left Tackle that's played at a near pro bowl level on a one year deal. You have a management structure that's shown a past commitment to the QB position. What exactly about this situation says "no" to a QB at 1 as opposed to...a LT?

and to add -- an LT that is not a big physical player, of which both Fisher & Joeckel are lacking.

Reid likes OL guys that have that nasty big ability to knock guys out the box. I doubt either player is what Reid wants, so they will want at least a 2nd & 3rd compensation or no deal.

[jspchief]

It's a smokescreen to try and get people to trade up.

Trade up for who? The guy KC is "pretending" to like? That doesn't make any sense. If KC "wants" him, they wouldn't be willing to trade away the pick that will get him.

People keep saying smokescreen, but it doesn't add up. At all.

[Frosty]

Here's an interesting interview with Cosell from 2008 that mentions what he looks for in QB evaluation:

http://mattwaldmanrsp.com/2011/09/01/greg-cosell-part-v-class-in-session/

He doesn't mention slow eyes. :) Based on what he says here, it's a little surprising that he likes Nassib and Glennon over Geno.

[saphojunkie]

I don't disagree with that, but I also think you have to give him a chance to win the job. You don't just concede his rookie season. Which is what people are doing.

He's not a special case. He doesn't need to be handled with kid gloves, or in any way differently than you'd handle any quarterback with top-10 talent.

I will concede his first TWO seasons if it means drafting a QB at 1.1. It didn't hurt Aaron Rodgers to sit. It won't hurt Geno. In fact, I'd be shocked if there were a single QB that ever was hurt by sitting and acclimating to the NFL slowly.

It seems to me that the only thing that hurts them is getting thrown out there too early.

I personally am disgusted by the anti-truefan truefan who would rather pass on a first round QB than draft one and have him sit for a year. Completely retarded, IMO.

[patteeu]

Trade up for who? The guy KC is "pretending" to like? That doesn't make any sense. If KC "wants" him, they wouldn't be willing to trade away the pick that will get him.

People keep saying smokescreen, but it doesn't add up. At all.

If you liked two people equally, there'd be a 50/50 chance you'd take either guy. If someone else coveted one of those players and if you thought you could get the other one even after you trade down, it wouldn't take much to get you to trade out of the pick. If you don't have any interest in the player that team covets or if they don't know you have an interest, there's no reason for them to even offer you a trade out opportunity.

[BigCatDaddy]

I would buy into if we hadn't rushed out and signed chase to a nice backup contract already.

Moving chase to the 3rd spot with his contract is absurd.


We are not drafting Geno. Hopefully other teams will buy into our interest in Geno like some of you on this board. We will make out very well in the draft picks we get back in the trade.

Geno would be the third QB and Chase was basically brought in one a year deal at 875K(from I remember of the contract) to backup Alex so a rookie QB doesn't have to see the field in year 1.

[BigCatDaddy]

You're a ****ing moron.

Almost every Geno fan would have been nearly as happy with Barkley or Wilson, before his stock started to fall in offseason activities.

You are the butthurt piece of shit that cried because a majority prferred Geno to Barkley.

Milkman cuts through bullshit like a hot knife through butter.

[Hammock Parties]

I'M NOT DELETING ANY OF THIS

http://i.imgur.com/D3Cbtqr.jpg

[Bowser]

LMAO

GENOSTALKER

[saphojunkie]

LMAO

GENOSTALKER

Don't listen to him. "West Virginia" is his code word for shemale porno.

[loochy]

Genophile

[BossChief]

Most of the Alex Smith hate is from the Geno crowd do the math.
That's just retarded.

Geno Smith has nothing to do with the history of KCs QB history.

We are sick of other teams backups.
I will also add this:

Andy Reid and John Dorsey brought in Alex Smith to "stabilize" the QB position.

Stabilize it. That's their word.

That doesn't scream "this guy will take us to the Super Bowl."

Again, worth remembering.
during Alex Smiths introductory press conference, someone asked John Dorsey if they could still draft a quarterback and he said "I'm not gonna rule it out. We want to keep our options open"

It's not gonna happen, though.

[Nightfyre]

I'M NOT DELETING ANY OF THIS

http://i.imgur.com/D3Cbtqr.jpg

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[BossChief]

In all honesty i bet we draft Geno Smith and sit him for 1-2 years while Alex Smith plays out his contract. Otherwise I think the Chiefs would have already re-signed Alex Smith to a longer deal.
Well guys, it was fun while it lasted.

[Direckshun]

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd415/spratattack/Blog_3/HappyPuppy.gif

Best gif ever?

Best gif ever.

[Direckshun]

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[RunKC]

That's just retarded.

Geno Smith has nothing to do with the history of KCs QB history.

We are sick of other teams backups.


I understand this man but you guys need to understand that Geno is overrated.

It speaks volumes that QB gurus in the NFL don't care for him.

Alex Smith was the best possible option this year. Doesn't mean we can't draft one in the future.

[Direckshun]

I understand this man but you guys need to understand that Geno is overrated.

http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd415/spratattack/Blog_3/HappyPuppy.gif

[Rausch]

I understand this man but you guys need to understand that Geno is overrated.

It speaks volumes that QB gurus in the NFL don't care for him.

The same Gurus that felt Barkley was a top 10 pick last year but think he could fall to the 20's this year?...

[ptlyon]

I understand this man but you guys need to understand that Alex is overrated.

It speaks volumes that he was benched and has had a concussion.

Geno Smith is the best possible option this year. Doesn't mean we can't draft one in the future if he doesn't work out.

FYP

[BigCatDaddy]

The same Gurus that felt Barkley was a top 10 pick last year but think he could fall to the 20's this year?...

No, the same Gurus that said Teo was the best player in the draft.

[loochy]

Every time our teams meet, there is a feelin' inside me
It’s almost more than I can take
Geno, when you go deep, it's so beautiful I weep
And it just blows me away
I’ve never been this excited about anyone
or anything
You can throw it deep, you can throw a screen
I dunno how you do what you do, I’m so in love with you
You just keep getting better, I want you to spend the rest of your career
With you on my team, for ever and ever
Every little thing that you do, Geno, I’m amazed by you

[ptlyon]

No, the same Gurus that said an OT was the best player in the draft.

FYP.

Man, I just LOVE fixing broken posts around here.

I may change my banner to read "The Post Fixer Upper"

[RunKC]

The same Gurus that felt Barkley was a top 10 pick last year but think he could fall to the 20's this year?...

Those were analysts not coaches with proven QB experience.

[BossChief]

John Dorsey and the Packers spent a first on a qb they sat for three years.

Andy Reid has sat every quarterback he has acquired via the draft or free agency...the exception was Foles and that was due to extenuating circumstances.

My 1% of hope is that Alex was the win today move by Dorsey and Geno will be the Andy Reid pick to win it all.

[saphojunkie]

FYP.

Man, I just LOVE fixing broken posts around here.

I may change my banner to read "The Post Fixer Upper"

Well, Broken-hearted poster-fixer-upper guy.

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

I would think they would be out to push players not teams.
If you want to be drafted #1 overall prove you want it! Even though it is slotted, there is still some negotiating on rookie contracts.

[ptlyon]

Well, Majorly pissed off poster-fixer-upper guy.

FYP...

[Frankie]

I will concede his first TWO seasons if it means drafting a QB at 1.1. It didn't hurt Aaron Rodgers to sit. It won't hurt Geno. In fact, I'd be shocked if there were a single QB that ever was hurt by sitting and acclimating to the NFL slowly.

This is not a very strong argument. Aaron Rogers, a top of the draft consideration, was available to GB deep into the 1st round. I bet the dropped everything and drafted him there. They more than likely had a totally different draft target before he fell into their lap. Having drafted him late in the 1st they could tell him to shut up and sit. It did help him, but if drafted at the top of that draft he could have had an Alex Smith type of early career.

Here you are talking about us taking Geno at 1.1. That creates a whole new set of expectations and will make sitting him look stupid.

[Nightfyre]

Best gif ever?

Best gif ever.
http://i.imgur.com/p9NfH.jpg

[Nightfyre]

I think I am going to make puppy gifs my niche.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Benjamin Allbright‏@NFLDraftMonster3m
Colt McCoy seems like a guy Andy Reid would stash as a #3 QB...

[Frankie]

Benjamin Allbright‏@NFLDraftMonster3m
Colt McCoy seems like a guy Andy Reid would stash as a #3 QB...

Keep ****ing doubting Ricky "DA MAN" Stanzi!

[ptlyon]

I think I am going to make puppy gifs my niche.

Everyone needs a niche, a "thing" that puts them out there, over the top.

Personally, mine is fixing posts.

[jd1020]

I'm fascinated with the Chiefs fascination about a QB they'd have to select #1 overall after they've already set their #1 and #2 QBs.

Talk about a fuck up.

[BigCatDaddy]

Those were analysts not coaches with proven QB experience.

Like who?

[saphojunkie]

This is not a very strong argument. Aaron Rogers, a top of the draft consideration, was available to GB deep into the 1st round. I bet the dropped everything and drafted him there. They more than likely had a totally different draft target before he fell into their lap. Having drafted him late in the 1st they could tell him to shut up and sit. It did help him, but if drafted at the top of that draft he could have had an Alex Smith type of early career.

Here you are talking about us taking Geno at 1.1. That creates a whole new set of expectations and will make sitting him look stupid.

Why the **** do you care how it looks? You know what looks stupid? Trotting out shitty quarterback after shitty quarterback. No one gives a **** how you develop a Super Bowl QB. Once you have him, you're a ****ing genius. Period.

God I just don't understand you people that actually value perception over results. ****ing baffles me. "You can't let him sit! It looks stupid!"

Yeah, but it is the best answer to developing a franchise QB for us - this year.

"You can't sit a first overall pick!"

So, you'd rather A) not draft the QB, or B) draft him and have him fail?

"You can't sit him!"

So, it's just a rule you've decided to make up and implement, despite it being the completely wrong perspective for this team?

"You can't sit him!"

:facepalm:

[RealSNR]

SNR likes guys with slow eyes. ROFL

I like slow eyes more than dumbfuck nice guys who are only respected in the league because they have families, and not because they're legitimately stupendous QB talents.

http://distilleryimage6.instagram.com/834d893c23cb11e2b17a22000a1fa432_7.jpg

You know who else had a problem with "slow eyes" in college and when he was in the pros?

Drew muthafuckin Brees.

How are those slow eyes now?

[silver5liter]

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/8679/smithab.jpg

[RealSNR]

You know what else looks stupid?

Drafting inferior non-elite OTs at 1.1 instead of taking a QB.

The Dolphins were the fucking laughingstock of the NFL in 2008, and we're about to do the same fucking thing.

[jd1020]

You know what else looks stupid?

Drafting inferior non-elite OTs at 1.1 instead of taking a QB.

The Dolphins were the ****ing laughingstock of the NFL in 2008, and we're about to do the same ****ing thing.

Even if they take Geno 1.1 they are still morons because they wasted #34 and a 2014 3rd/2nd on a stopgap.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Just Do It.
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[RealSNR]

Things that look dumber than sitting a #1 overall rookie QB:

1) Falling in love with Luke Joeckel at the top of a draft

2) Falling in love with Luke Joeckel at the top of a draft when you have no QB, 6 Pro Bowlers on a 2-14 team, and a very very good LT who has just been put on the franchise tag

3) Trying to ship off the the very very good LT to make room for Luke Joeckel and getting chump change as compensation. ALL SO YOU CAN HAVE LUKE MUTHAFUCKING JOECKEL AND AVOID LOOKING "DUMB" BY SITTING A #1 OVERALL QB FOR A YEAR

4) Hiring one of the NFL's great QB coaches and not trusting him to work with great potential talent like Geno Smith.

[BossChief]

Geno at 1 is high risk, high reward.

Hedging that bet by acquiring Alex Smith via trade opens up lots of options in the short and long term.

[Hootie]

I have a feeling if the chiefs draft geno they'll trade him within an hour

[jd1020]

Geno at 1 is high risk, high reward.

Hedging that bet by acquiring Alex Smith via trade opens up lots of options in the short and long term.

What does Alex Smith benefit towards the long term?

You believe he's going to bring a SB to KC?
You believe he's going to fetch more in the future than the Chiefs paid for him this year?
You believe having Alex Smith start over Daniel and sitting Geno #3 instead of #2 is going to enhance Geno's game more?

[ptlyon]

What does Alex Smith benefit towards the long term?

Yes, please explain

:popcorn:

[Bewbies]

Maybe we can rape another team by trading Alex Smith to them next year? LMAO

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I have a feeling if the chiefs draft Sanchez they'll trade him within an hour/did not fly in 2009, will not fly in 2013


Aäääand fixed.
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[Imon Yourside]

I wouldn't trade this news for Marshall Henderson and two birds to be named later.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Things that look dumber than sitting a #1 overall rookie QB:

1) Falling in love with Luke Joeckel at the top of a draft

2) Falling in love with Luke Joeckel at the top of a draft when you have no QB, 6 Pro Bowlers on a 2-14 team, and a very very good LT who has just been put on the franchise tag

3) Trying to ship off the the very very good LT to make room for Luke Joeckel and getting chump change as compensation. ALL SO YOU CAN HAVE LUKE MUTHA****ING JOECKEL AND AVOID LOOKING "DUMB" BY SITTING A #1 OVERALL QB FOR A YEAR

4) Hiring one of the NFL's great QB coaches and not trusting him to work with great potential talent like Geno Smith.

the dumbest thing seen is your constant whining, crying, belly aching, bitching, moaning, groaning, complaining, carping, fretting, fussing, grumbling, grieving, nagging protesting, wailing about not getting what you want

[BossChief]

What does Alex Smith benefit towards the long term?

You believe he's going to bring a SB to KC?
You believe he's going to fetch more in the future than the Chiefs paid for him this year?
You believe having Alex Smith start over Daniel and sitting Geno #3 instead of #2 is going to enhance Geno's game more?

That's how Andy Reid groomed Mike Vick.

[RealSNR]

the dumbest thing seen is your constant whining, crying, belly aching, bitching, moaning, groaning, complaining, carping, fretting, fussing, grumbling, grieving, nagging protesting, wailing about not getting what you want

If there were a legitimate rationale for trading for Alex Smith and drafting Luke Joeckel, I'd love to hear it. Maybe I would disagree with it because I had preferences, but if the decision had some logical merit behind it, I wouldn't complain. Not one bit. It's why I openly entertained and welcomed the possibility that the Chiefs might have wanted Matt Barkley or a different QB at #1.

Try posting again. This time try using facts to disagree with me. RunKC and others do it all the time. It's not hard. Give it a shot.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

the dumbest thing seen is your constant whining, crying, belly aching, bitching, moaning, groaning, complaining, carping, fretting, fussing, grumbling, grieving, nagging protesting, wailing about not getting what you want

Well get used to it motherfucker because if the Chiefs draft Jokel, trade Albert, and let ol' Alice be WHO I KNOW SHE IS, you're in for one long-assed, miserable fucking ride from yours truly and several others. Chump.
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[Coogs]

Even if they take Geno 1.1 they are still morons because they wasted #34 and a 2014 3rd/2nd on a stopgap.

Wouldn't be the first time we have wasted picks. At least this is for a good cause. Fixing the QB.

[jd1020]

That's how Andy Reid groomed Mike Vick.

What does Vick have to do with Alex Smith being a long term benefit to the Chiefs?

You believe Vick was only as good as he was his first year as starter for the Eagles because he was #3 for 1 season?

McNabb was gone 1 year after signing Vick. "Long term."

[King_Chief_Fan]

Well get used to it mother****er because if the Chiefs draft Jokel, trade Albert, and let ol' Alice be WHO I KNOW SHE IS, you're in for one long-assed, miserable ****ing ride from yours truly and several others. Chump.
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:deevee::deevee:

[patteeu]

I like slow eyes

OK

[Imon Yourside]

OK

I got two eyes and their both the same size - Geno Smith

[Marcellus]

Well get used to it mother****er because if the Chiefs draft Jokel, trade Albert, and let ol' Alice be WHO I KNOW SHE IS, you're in for one long-assed, miserable ****ing ride from yours truly and several others. Chump.
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The ignore function is very simple to use.

I don't have to deal with you or anyone else I don't feel like dealing with. I have never used it before but since some people seem to be looking for a reason to act like an ass clown I may start using it.

[patteeu]

I got two eyes and their both the same size - Geno Smith

Look at me, Geno! L....o.....o.....k..... a.....t..... m.....e.....!!

[King_Chief_Fan]

I got two eyes and their both the same size - Geno Smith

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmXaRNb9tVRe3pjHcqX1DDJKuxuPXg0mZ3M3xPC3bHJ_15JhvWxw

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The ignore function is very simple to use.

I don't have to deal with you or anyone else I don't feel like dealing with. I have never used it before but since some people seem to be looking for a reason to act like an ass clown I may start using it.

I consider you putting me on ignore a goddamned victory, Lil Chiefy.
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[DaneMcCloud]

If there were a legitimate rationale for trading for Alex Smith and drafting Luke Joeckel, I'd love to hear it

:facepalm:

JFC, it's the same shit with you over and over and over again.

This isn't MY decision. This isn't YOUR decision. But it's clear that Clark Hunt mandated that Dorsey and Reid put a legitimate football team on the field in 2013. No more 2-14's and 4-12 bullshit they've trotted out for the better part of the last six seasons, but a true legitimate team that can push for and possibly make the playoffs. The Chiefs were a laughing stock in league circles by the NFL Office down to the players and agents.

The fans rebelled last year, and it wasn't just people on Chiefsplanet. Tens of thousands wore black and tens of thousands didn't show up at Arrowhead. It looked to me like there were no more than 30,000 people in the stands past mid-season.

Clark Hunt didn't want to risk the fans already thin patience by building a team through the draft, attempting to develop a QB, etc. and instead chose to fill holes in Free Agency and trade for the best possible QB available.

This is the path they've chosen for 2013. YOU don't have to like it. But JFC, shut the fuck up already.

[patteeu]

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTmXaRNb9tVRe3pjHcqX1DDJKuxuPXg0mZ3M3xPC3bHJ_15JhvWxw

He's looking into the wrong camera there.

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/03/geno-smith-jaws.jpg

Look Jaws in the eye, Geno. He's right there beside you. Do it!

[DaneMcCloud]

I consider you putting me on ignore a goddamned victory, Lil Chiefy.
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Shut the fuck up, Herpes Dick.

Your ass should still be banned. You're fucking bandwagon cunt without an original thought in your pointy little head.

[Sorter]

What does Alex Smith benefit towards the long term?

You believe he's going to bring a SB to KC?
You believe he's going to fetch more in the future than the Chiefs paid for him this year?
You believe having Alex Smith start over Daniel and sitting Geno #3 instead of #2 is going to enhance Geno's game more?

He'll get more reps running the scout team than Chase, fwiw.

[King_Chief_Fan]

He's looking into the wrong camera there.

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/03/geno-smith-jaws.jpg

Look Jaws in the eye, Geno. He's right there beside you. Do it!
:D

[Sorter]

He's looking into the wrong camera there.

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/03/geno-smith-jaws.jpg

Look Jaws in the eye, Geno. He's right there beside you. Do it!

As long as Geno doesn't end up like this

http://www.nndb.com/people/833/000025758/fw3.jpg

or this

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/5196/thumbs/s-STUART-SCOTT-large.jpg

I'm okay with slow eyes.

[The Franchise]

:facepalm:

JFC, it's the same shit with you over and over and over again.

This isn't MY decision. This isn't YOUR decision. But it's clear that Clark Hunt mandated that Dorsey and Reid put a legitimate football team on the field in 2013. No more 2-14's and 4-12 bullshit they've trotted out for the better part of the last six seasons, but a true legitimate team that can push for and possibly make the playoffs. The Chiefs were a laughing stock in league circles by the NFL Office down to the players and agents.

The fans rebelled last year, and it wasn't just people on Chiefsplanet. Tens of thousands wore black and tens of thousands didn't show up at Arrowhead. It looked to me like there were no more than 30,000 people in the stands past mid-season.

Clark Hunt didn't want to risk the fans already thin patience by building a team through the draft, attempting to develop a QB, etc. and instead chose to fill holes in Free Agency and trade for the best possible QB available.

This is the path they've chosen for 2013. YOU don't have to like it. But JFC, shut the fuck up already.

And that's great. But there is NOTHING that states that you still can't take that QB at 1.1. And don't feed me that line of bullshit about sitting the 1st overall pick is a waste.

[RealSNR]

:facepalm:

JFC, it's the same shit with you over and over and over again.

This isn't MY decision. This isn't YOUR decision. But it's clear that Clark Hunt mandated that Dorsey and Reid put a legitimate football team on the field in 2013. No more 2-14's and 4-12 bullshit they've trotted out for the better part of the last six seasons, but a true legitimate team that can push for and possibly make the playoffs. The Chiefs were a laughing stock in league circles by the NFL Office down to the players and agents.

The fans rebelled last year, and it wasn't just people on Chiefsplanet. Tens of thousands wore black and tens of thousands didn't show up at Arrowhead. It looked to me like there were no more than 30,000 people in the stands past mid-season.

Clark Hunt didn't want to risk the fans already thin patience by building a team through the draft, attempting to develop a QB, etc. and instead chose to fill holes in Free Agency and trade for the best possible QB available.

This is the path they've chosen for 2013. YOU don't have to like it. But JFC, shut the fuck up already.

JFC FUCK YOU MOTHERFUCKING COCKSUCKING FUCKFACED FUCKTARDED FUCKWEASEL. IF YOU WEREN'T SO FUCKING BUSY FUCKING YOUR FUCKBUDDIES IN FUCKTOWN, FUCKLAHOMA YOU'D FUCKING SEE THAT YOUR MOTHERFUCKING FUCKHEAD IS FUCKED UP FROM ALL THAT FUCKING ASSFUCKING YOU'VE FUCKING DONE.

FUCK

[RealSNR]

I turned on my filter just to see what my post looks like. Interesting.

[RunKC]

29 more days until Geno fans can move into stage 4 and then 5 of the grief stage.

[DaneMcCloud]

And that's great. But there is NOTHING that states that you still can't take that QB at 1.1. And don't feed me that line of bullshit about sitting the 1st overall pick is a waste.

It IS a waste.

When Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, RGIII and Russel Wilson start DAY ONE, the rules of the game have clearly changed.

Furthermore, as I've pointed out in the past, sitting your #1 overall QB for a year is ludicrous with the new CBA. Teams MUST decided after year two whether or not to pick up the option for Year Five AFTER year two. So by sitting a QB, you effectively have to make that decision with possibly only 16 games under his belt. That's a ridiculous situation for any team.

Also, spending the #1 overall, the #2 overall and a third round pick on a QB puts your lockerroom in a quandry and most likely, would split it in two. You'd have guys pissed that the #1 overall pick is on the bench, effectively wasting a year of their career (or more) or you'd have guys pissed that the #34 pick wasn't used on a player in which to upgrade your team THIS SEASON.

There are a multitude of reason why not to take a QB #1 overall after trading two picks for a starter and most of them have nothing to do with play on the field.

[ptlyon]

JFC **** YOU MOTHER****ING COCKSUCKING ****FACED ****TARDED ****WEASEL. IF YOU WEREN'T SO ****ING BUSY ****ING YOUR ****BUDDIES IN ****TOWN, ****LAHOMA YOU'D ****ING SEE THAT YOUR MOTHER****ING ****HEAD IS ****ED UP FROM ALL THAT ****ING ASS****ING YOU'VE ****ING DONE.

****

Post of the year right there...

[DaneMcCloud]

I turned on my filter just to see what my post looks like. Interesting.

Well, it's nice to see that you're willing to have true conversation.

:rolleyes:

You're a fucking joke.

Nice job.

[The Franchise]

Interesting. The Chiefs traveled to all of their workouts so far except two. Smith and Milliner are coming to KC.

[The Franchise]

It IS a waste.

When Sam Bradford, Andy Dalton, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, RGIII and Russel Wilson start DAY ONE, the rules of the game have clearly changed.

Furthermore, as I've pointed out in the past, sitting your #1 overall QB for a year is ludicrous with the new CBA. Teams MUST decided after year two whether or not to pick up the option for Year Five AFTER year two. So by sitting a QB, you effectively have to make that decision with possibly only 16 games under his belt. That's a ridiculous situation for any team.

Also, spending the #1 overall, the #2 overall and a third round pick on a QB puts your lockerroom in a quandry and most likely, would split it in two. You'd have guys pissed that the #1 overall pick is on the bench, effectively wasting a year of their career (or more) or you'd have guys pissed that the #34 pick wasn't used on a player in which to upgrade your team THIS SEASON.

There are a multitude of reason why not to take a QB #1 overall after trading two picks for a starter and most of them have nothing to do with play on the field.

Dude.....come on.

First....you'd have 16 games of live action results. You don't think that Andy Reid would be able to tell what Geno Smith has outside of those 16 games?

It wouldn't split the locker room. Do you honestly think that other players are going to be bitching about Geno Smith not starting in 2013 if Geno Smith is ok with it?

And all of those QBs were on teams that had exactly jack and shit at their QB situations when they were drafted. The Seahawks had Matt Flynn but he got beat the fuck out in TC....so it's not like he was fucking great.

[Sorter]

Interesting. The Chiefs traveled to all of their workouts so far except two. Smith and Milliner are coming to KC.

Nobody wants to travel to WV or Bama. LMAO

[RealSNR]

Well, it's nice to see that you're willing to have true conversation.

:rolleyes:

You're a ****ing joke.

Nice job.

You really need to calm down, dude. The speculation, hypotheticals, and creative projecting are 95% the fun that a place like Chiefs Planet offers.

I know Geno or one of his supporters touched you inappropriately or whatever, but that's no reason to take your misgivings and anger about him onto everybody else.

[The Franchise]

Nobody wants to travel to WV or Bama. LMAO

Because Central Michigan is just like Vegas.

[RealSNR]

Because Central Michigan is just like Vegas.

How far is the campus from Mackinac City? Mmmmm... fudge...

[Sorter]

Because Central Michigan is just like Vegas.

I hear they have excellent buffets.

[ptlyon]

How far is the campus from Mackinac City? Mmmmm... fudge...

12 miles

[AlexSmithDynasty]

Perfect situation for KC would be to scare the Jags enough that they give up a 2nd rounder to swap picks. Chiefs get high second round pick and the 2nd overall pick in the draft. They'll get their second rounder back without having to deal Albert and will only go back one spot in the draft and can still take whoever they want. With this draft class I'm not sure anyone is gonna trade their top pick and a 1st rounder next year.

[Mav]

I like them bringing him here to work out. They will run him through drills they want to see, and not some mock scripted bs at his pro day. This is a good sign for chiefs fans who think he is a franchise qb. They will see how he deals with the unknown.

[wazu]

Perfect situation for KC would be to scare the Jags enough that they give up a 2nd rounder to swap picks. Chiefs get high second round pick and the 2nd overall pick in the draft. They'll get their second rounder back without having to deal Albert and will only go back one spot in the draft and can still take whoever they want. With this draft class I'm not sure anyone is gonna trade their top pick and a 1st rounder next year.

No. Perfect situation is they draft Geno.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Im fascinated that the fascinating new regime of the Chiefs are fascinated with the most fascinating QB in this fascinating draft

[penbrook]

No. Perfect situation is they draft Geno.

100% agree..

[Hammock Parties]

Im fascinated that the fascinating new regime of the Chiefs are fascinated with the most fascinating QB in this fascinating draft

Fascinating.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzm2hfC4uZ1qdvm56.gif

[Gravedigger]

Perfect situation for KC would be to scare the Jags enough that they give up a 2nd rounder to swap picks. Chiefs get high second round pick and the 2nd overall pick in the draft. They'll get their second rounder back without having to deal Albert and will only go back one spot in the draft and can still take whoever they want. With this draft class I'm not sure anyone is gonna trade their top pick and a 1st rounder next year.

Careful, you'll summon B14ckmon with talk like that.

[MotherfuckerJones]

Fascinating.

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzm2hfC4uZ1qdvm56.gif

Indeed it is Genofascinating!:D

[cabletech94]

cabletech94=still fascinated.

[Simply Red]

No shit.

Not just that, but it would legimately leap about 2/3s of the league in quality.

We would have gone from one of the most talentless, hopeless QB corps to one with a ton of potential.

Fascinating, indeed.

Don't get me wrong, I liked Chase McDaniels in College, he was really a baller at that level, but now, I'm not as excited and truly believe he's can o corn material in NFL. I like the person though & i'd totally Brug him.

[Bwana]

Smoke and mirrors. Good move on trying to drive the price up though.

[penbrook]

Smoke and mirrors. Good move on trying to drive the price up though.

If it was a smokescreen we would be hearing a lot about Jags Oak and Phi but nothing.

I believe this is the real deal. Accept it..

[Gravedigger]

It could be a real deal. I still think they trade the pick though, I mean they bring in Geno and Milliner. CB isn't a need anymore outside of depth and I don't think you bring in Dunta and Sean Smith as backups or Nickel Corners, maybe you do but maybe you don't. It'd be nice to have Alex Smith, Geno Smith, and Chase Daniel, I think you'd have dramatically increased the QB situation with that trio, but until a month from now it's all speculation.

[New World Order]

Didn't read every post but it all depends if we trade Albert. If we keep Albert we have a legitimate chance at drafting Smith.

[Bwana]

If it was a smokescreen we would be hearing a lot about Jags Oak and Phi but nothing.

I believe this is the real deal. Accept it..

Sure

[Setsuna]

This place has gone full retard.

[GloryDayz]

Did they follow him into the shower or something?

[MotherfuckerJones]

This place has gone full retard.

Why do you have a pic of Geno if you want Tyler Bray? Ur the retard

[Mr. Laz]

He's looking into the wrong camera there.

http://philly.barstoolsports.com/files/2013/03/geno-smith-jaws.jpg

Look Jaws in the eye, Geno. He's right there beside you. Do it!
He IS trying ... his slow eyes just take awhile to get all the way over there.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I'm fascinated with the Chiefs fascination about a QB they'd have to select #1 overall after they've already set their #1 and #2 QBs.

Talk about a fuck up.

Oh bullshit. It's the one position worth hedging your bets on. You even watch the games last year? Do whatever you have to do and throw as many resources till the position is fixed.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The Chiefs definately have legit interest in Geno. It may not happen, but it is a legit possiblity.

[jd1020]

Oh bullshit. It's the one position worth hedging your bets on. You even watch the games last year? Do whatever you have to do and throw as many resources till the position is fixed.

There's a difference between hedging your bets and pissing into the wind.

Draft Geno #1. Then why did you spend 2 high picks on Alex Smith? Would have been much better to not use those picks on the same position and used them to get complimentary players that will be on the field at the same time.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

There's a difference between hedging your bets and pissing into the wind.

Draft Geno #1. Then why did you spend 2 high picks on Alex Smith? Would have been much better to not use those picks on the same position and used them to get complimentary players that will be on the field at the same time.

Maybe they subscribe to Pro Football Focus and saw that Smith was a Top 8 QB in '11 and a Top 12 one on a per game basis in '12? He's a pretty big upgrade to Cassel. No pressure for Geno to have to start right away either.

[jd1020]

Maybe they subscribe to Pro Football Focus and saw that Smith was a Top 8 QB in '11 and a Top 12 one on a per game basis in '12? He's a pretty big upgrade to Cassel. No pressure for Geno to have to start right away either.

Blahblahblahblah.

Pretty big upgrade to Cassel - Pretty big downgrade to the top QBs in the NFL = nothing worth talking about.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

They also probably feel that this is a 10-11 win team with a guy that takes care of the football over losing it 3-4 times a game. I don't see how the ceiling is only 8 games when they won 10 with an inferior Cassel. PFF exposed his 08 and 10 seasons as frauds BTW.

[jd1020]

They also probably feel that this is a 10-11 win team with a guy that takes care of the football over losing it 3-4 times a game. I don't see how the ceiling is only 8 games when they won 10 with an inferior Cassel. PFF exposed his 08 and 10 seasons as frauds BTW.

Inferior Cassel who played better than Smith that year...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Blahblahblahblah.

Pretty big upgrade to Cassel - Pretty big downgrade to the top QBs in the NFL = nothing worth talking about.

Good thing they'd be hedging their bets with a guy like Geno that has star potential in that scenerio :)

You get a vet that can win you 10 games in the meantime and a young guy that can take over if he fails. Win/win situation.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Inferior Cassel who played better than Smith that year...

Smith's last 2 years were better than Cassel's 2010. Sorry, I put more stock in PFF than slapdicks who probably never watched more than 1 or 2 Niner games.

[jd1020]

Smith's last 2 years were better than Cassel's 2010. Sorry, I put more stock in PFF than slapdicks who probably never watched more than 1 or 2 Niner games.

I put more stock into 2 QB's who's sole job is/was to protect the ball and the one who ended with 27 TDs and 7 INTs doing a better job than the other. But if you want to go by PFF then be my guest.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Well, a 19-5 team record backs them up quite a bit.

[jd1020]

Well, a 19-5 team record backs them up quite a bit.

All due to Alex Smith :rolleyes:

[Pasta Little Brioni]

6 4th Q comebacks

Could have been 13-11

[jd1020]

6 4th Q comebacks

Could have been 13-11

How many points did they have to score to win?

6 4th quarter comebacks with a D #2 in both years in points allowed at 14 and 17 a game. Color me unimpressed.