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Prison Bitch
06-10-2013, 09:17 PM
Holland has nasty stuff. I don't know why fans underestimate him. He struck out over 90 guys last year. I don't think Soria ever did that. He has 35 K in 23 IP this year... if he gets enough chances he might make a run at 100.

Soria struck out plenty of guys but more so he didn't allow base runners, Holland has allowed 20% more base runners

Shogun
06-10-2013, 09:19 PM
How fast is he? Super fast?

faster than a jimmy johns sandwich being delivered

Hootie
06-10-2013, 09:19 PM
I was a big Soria fan...still think he should have been a starter. He did break down quick.

I just prefer closers like Holland. I think he has the potential to turn in Kimbrel-esque years.

Ceej
06-10-2013, 09:19 PM
faster than a jimmy johns sandwich being delivered

That's fast. Real fast.

Prison Bitch
06-10-2013, 09:20 PM
I was a big Soria fan...still think he should have been a starter. He did break down quick.

I just prefer closers like Holland. I think he has the potential to turn in Kimbrel-esque years.

Moore said Sorias arm would never hold up as a starter. They used him perfectly although they should've traded him earlier

MeatRock
06-10-2013, 09:43 PM
I was a big Soria fan...still think he should have been a starter. He did break down quick.

I just prefer closers like Holland. I think he has the potential to turn in Kimbrel-esque years.

There would have been no fucking way Soria would have made it as a starter.
None. His arm would have collapsed alot sooner than it did.

MeatRock
06-10-2013, 09:44 PM
I think Holland's raw stuff is actually better.

He throws harder, and his slider is more of a wipeout pitch than Soria's hook was (because Holland is a bit more consistent with it and it is more effective against LH hitters). The splitter is also unfair when paired with the mid-90s heat and the slider. All three pitches come out with the same arm speed and are tough to distinguish from one another.

This i agree with 100%.

Demonpenz
06-11-2013, 01:04 AM
Soria had 4 good pitches good control and an ice coldness on the mound. Soria also had a big hold in the all star game.

-King-
06-11-2013, 01:10 AM
Last year KC had 131 HRs, which was 26th out of 30 teams. We're tied for last with the Marlins this year, on pace for about 81 HRs total. It's especially pathetic being behind all the NL teams, considering we have the advantage of a DH over a pitcher.

Wow. I would have never thought 131 HRs would be that low. Before this post, if you told me that we would hit 131 HRs this season, I'd be happy as hell. That's almost a homerun every game.

Surprising to me that 131 is considered low and that 25 teams did better than that.

Looking at the stats from last year, the Yankees averaged 1.5 HRs per game. Wow.