****OFFICIAL 2014 NCAA Tournament Thread****

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yeah the sec sucks ROFL

[eDave]

Hmmm. Ida drove but woulda lost in OT anyway.

[Titty Meat]

Kentucky owns Kansas

[lewdog]

UK is a bunch of butt pirates

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Massive upset...

[mr. tegu]

Had the look

Wrong player.

[Reerun_KC]

WOW they went for the kill with Van fleets

[Simplicity]

Thannnnkkkkk you.

[tk13]

What a great game. If Kentucky can play like this, the game with Louisville will be great.

[Discuss Thrower]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.

[Demonpenz]

Love the underdog winning!

[TribalElder]

Kentucky has beat KU, K State, and The shockers in their last 3 ncaa tournament games

Kentucky is kansas kryptonite

[dirk digler]

Damn. Tough loss WSU.

[Reerun_KC]

This will pipe down the WSU fans for awhile...

[KC_Connection]

Incredible game. Too bad it had to have a loser. No doubt in my mind that WSU is a top team, but peak UK is (apparently) just as good as anyone.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

WSU alumni back to being KU fans next year

[Reerun_KC]

What is it with Cant broadcast shit showing people crying today?

[Titty Meat]

This will pipe down the WSU fans for awhile...

KU blows it every year but their fans never shut up

[Ceej]

I think I would have looked for Cleanthony before FVV.

Had the look though.

[Bearcat]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.

After a game like that? Really?

[KC_Connection]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.
No, it's just a single elimination crapshoot.

[Mr. Plow]

Kentucky owns Kansas


Dildo.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Is it wrong to root against ISU because of one poster?

[R8RFAN]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/yserejys.jpg

[Reerun_KC]

KU blows it every year but their fans never shut up

Blah blah blah, your a dirty tramp... Blah blah blah...

WSU tradition like no other circa 2013.

[Discuss Thrower]

After a game like that? Really?

It's great basketball and entertaining but it's a bullshit way of determining a "championship".

[tk13]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.

Do you ever make a post where you aren't complaining about something?

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Is it wrong to root against ISU because of one poster?

Nope

[Reerun_KC]

After a game like that? Really?

Two great games today. Just how the tourney goes...

[Pasta Little Brioni]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/yserejys.jpg

Now take down the euro ballas

[lcarus]

Kentucky as an 8 is just absurd. Yet UMass was a 6? Saint Louis a 5? Insane.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Kentucky as an 8 is just absurd. Yet UMass was a 6? Saint Louis a 5? Insane.

Well 9 loss teams were 2 seeds....

[LoneWolf]

It's great basketball and entertaining but it's a bullshit way of determining a "championship".

You're right. I'd rather see the championship decided by computers and human polls.

[KC_Connection]

It's great basketball and entertaining but it's a bullshit way of determining a "championship".
People complain about the BCS (which I rather liked, thought it led to the best team winning regularly), people complain about this. How should they do it?

[Bearcat]

It's great basketball and entertaining but it's a bullshit way of determining a "championship".

Is there a better solution? It's definitely not an ideal way to determine the best team in the country, but unless you want them playing until June, I don't think there is one.

[Mr. Plow]

Is there a better solution? It's definitely not an ideal way to determine the best team in the country, but unless you want them playing until June, I don't think there is one.


12 game series. Each game one player is removed from the roster until it's a 1 on 1 for the championship.

[KC_Connection]

You could have a BCS-like system and put the top 2 teams by the rankings in a 7 game series or something. It would likely lead to the best teams winning more often. But people would bitch constantly about that and it would destroy the meaning of the last month or so for most teams.

[Ceej]

12 game series. Each game one player is removed from the roster until it's a 1 on 1 for the championship.

You'd probably like it shirts vs. skins too.

[Cephalic Trauma]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.

:LOL:

God, dude, I am so glad I'm not you.

[GordonGekko]

It's great basketball and entertaining but it's a bullshit way of determining a "championship".

How? All you have to do is win, the team is in complete control of their destiny in the tournament. No BS voters or computers to fuck a team over.

[Cephalic Trauma]

You'd probably like it shirts vs. skins too.

No, he likes all skins. Maximal contact is encouraged and no fouls will be called.

[sorry plow, I don't know you, but I want to bust some balls]

[A Salt Weapon]

The NCAA tournament is a joke.

The officiating is for sure, louisville, n carolina, kentucky, duke, etc all get terrible calls in their favor over the course of the game, other non-east coast teams either have to overcome officiating or go home.

[siberian khatru]

12 game series. Each game one player is removed from the roster until it's a 1 on 1 for the championship.

:LOL:

[Ceej]

No, he likes all skins. Maximal contact is encouraged and no fouls will be called.

[sorry plow, I don't know you, but I want to bust some balls]

Along Came Polly?

[Bearcat]

No, he likes all skins. Maximal contact is encouraged and no fouls will be called.

[sorry plow, I don't know you, but I want to bust some balls]

I'll neg your rep on behalf of Plow, because I'm 100% certain he is incredibly butthurt over this.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

The officiating is for sure, louisville, n carolina, kentucky, duke, etc all get terrible calls in their favor over the course of the game, other non-east coast teams either have to overcome officiating or go home.

Riiiiiiight

[Bearcat]

12 game series. Each game one player is removed from the roster until it's a 1 on 1 for the championship.

The B5G™ system wins again.

[GloryDayz]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/03/24/yserejys.jpg

I would make sweet love to her.

[Baby Lee]

Along Came Polly?

Did'ja shart?

[R8RFAN]

The officiating is for sure, louisville, n carolina, kentucky, duke, etc all get terrible calls in their favor over the course of the game, other non-east coast teams either have to overcome officiating or go home.
Fuck off

[Ceej]

Did'ja shart?

We gotta go.

[GoChargers]

The officiating is for sure, louisville, n carolina, kentucky, duke, etc all get terrible calls in their favor over the course of the game, other non-east coast teams either have to overcome officiating or go home.

This is true. Referees love to officiate based on the names on the front of the jerseys when the tournament would be even better if simply reffed fairly.

[Pants]

12 game series. Each game one player is removed from the roster until it's a 1 on 1 for the championship.

LMAO

[Deberg_1990]

How? All you have to do is win, the team is in complete control of their destiny in the tournament. No BS voters or computers to fuck a team over.

Its exciting for the fans for sure...
But it sort of devalues a teams regular season. A sudden death format allows for fluky plays, bad refs, etc to cost teams.

Why do you think the NBA does a best of playoff format?
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[TribalElder]

Its exciting for the fans for sure...
But it sort of devalues a teams regular season. A sudden death format allows for fluky plays, bad refs, etc to cost teams.

Why do you think the NBA does a best of playoff format?
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Money, for money

[R8RFAN]

NCAA one and done.. Best tourney in the history of sports

[Predarat]

Too soon?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Predarat5/WellByeKanCoaches_zpsc9294321.jpg

[GordonGekko]

Its exciting for the fans for sure...
But it sort of devalues a teams regular season. A sudden death format allows for fluky plays, bad refs, etc to cost teams.

Why do you think the NBA does a best of playoff format?
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I think this is the purest form of determining a champion that there practically can be. All you have to do is win, so simple. The NBA playoffs are setup to milk the shit out of the pockets of their fan bases. The NBA playoffs is a season in itself.

[Deberg_1990]

Money, for money

Heh, of course.

Honestly, the NCAA has no choice but to do this format. No way logistically to do some drawn out best of format. They would have a hard time filling arenas as well for so many games.
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[KC_Connection]

I think this is the purest form of determining a champion that there practically can be, all you have to do is win so simple. The NBA playoffs are setup to milk the shit out of the pockets of their fan bases. The NBA playoffs is a season in itself.
Pure? Maybe. But its single elimination nature makes it very random. NBA playoffs are far better if you care about the best/most deserving teams getting the championship.

[Simplicity]

Pure? Maybe. But its single elimination nature makes it very random. NBA playoffs are far better if you care about the best/most deserving teams getting the championship.

I agree. I love finding out who the most deserving team is IN the NBA but for the NCAA, I love to see who plays the best when it comes down to one game. It creates a cool atmosphere.

[GordonGekko]

Pure? Maybe. But its single elimination nature makes it very random. NBA playoffs are far better if you care about the best/most deserving teams getting the championship.

Or not random.

Look at the list of champions since 2000. The only 'random' team on there you could maybe make a case for would be Maryland. But they were a hell of a program in the early 2000s so.

Now if Mercer wins this years championship then random could be appropriate.

[Bearcat]

I think this is the purest form of determining a champion that there practically can be, all you have to do is win so simple. The NBA playoffs are setup to milk the shit out of the pockets of their fan bases as possible, with best of 7's and the NBA playoffs are like a whole season in themselves.

Other motives aside, you can't determine the best team from one game. The best players in CBB are still going to miss that shot 60% of the time. Kansas isn't as bad as they played today, just like WSU isn't without a doubt a worse team than Kentucky.

It's just the nature of the beast... we put so much focus and energy into it as fans, so one play here or there or one basket that barely rims out is all it takes to determine the season was a failure, which is obviously dumb.

[KC_Connection]

Or not random.

Look at the list of champions since 2000. The only 'random' team on there you could maybe make a case for would be Maryland. But they were a hell of a program in the early 2000s so.
UConn definitely was not the best team in 2011. They won it because Kemba got hot. OSU, KU, Duke, UK all better.

[Baby Lee]

Other motives aside, you can't determine the best team from one game. The best players in CBB are still going to miss that shot 60% of the time. Kansas isn't as bad as they played today, just like WSU isn't without a doubt a worse team than Kentucky.

It's just the nature of the beast... we put so much focus and energy into it as fans, so one play here or there or one basket that barely rims out is all it takes to determine the season was a failure, which is obviously dumb.

One play at the end of the game is what decides it, . . . more evidence of schizophrenia.

This is worry-making.

[GordonGekko]

UConn definitely was not the best team in 2011. They won it because Kemba got hot. OSU, KU, Duke, UK all better.

Still a powerhouse program and that team had a shit load of talent that gelled at the right time. It's not like they are Mercer or anything.

[Bearcat]

One play at the end of the game is what decides it, . . . more evidence of schizophrenia.

This is worry-making.

Meh, you're clearly drunk or something, but that obviously wasn't the point. The point is there's a fine line between victory and defeat, and yeah, after you add up your mistakes/lost opportunities and your opponent's mistakes/lost opportunities, it can come down to one last play.

One game or 7 games, you're talking about teams that are just a little better over time.

If you're expecting perfection, I guess you could dig up some old videos of UCLA's 88 straight or something. :shrug:

[R8RFAN]

The only time people complain is when they are the ones getting knocked out.... Get over it... I am sure my Heels will be gone in an hour and a half or so...

[Pants]

The only time people complain is when they are the ones getting knocked out.... Get over it... I am sure my Heels will be gone in an hour and a half or so...

It's not a complaint, it's an observation.

[KC_Connection]

Still a powerhouse program and that team had a shit load of talent that gelled at the right time. It's not like they are Mercer or anything.
But not the best team, not even close really.

But yes, of late, the best team (or close to it) has won more often than not. You can't say UK or Louisville the last 2 teams didn't have a legitimate claim to that, their titles were expected.

In the NBA, though, you'll always get that.

[KC_Connection]

Eamonn Brennan ‏@eamonnbrennan 12m
Cal admits he didn't do a good job with Andrew Harrison early in the year. "But I did late."

Never change Cal. LMAO

[TribalElder]

Too soon?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v336/Predarat5/WellByeKanCoaches_zpsc9294321.jpg

:clap:

[Reerun_KC]

:clap:

Shouldnt you be watching the NIT?

[Discuss Thrower]

You could have a BCS-like system and put the top 2 teams by the rankings in a 7 game series or something. It would likely lead to the best teams winning more often. But people would bitch constantly about that and it would destroy the meaning of the last month or so for most teams.

Have every Div I conference regular season champion face off in a series of best of three series in a bracket. Ban conference tournaments and cap total games at 40.

[GloryDayz]

Shouldnt you be watching the NIT?

Oh, it's another Haith gem! Bad coach, fag players, just a thing to behold!

[GoChargers]

I don't get why people are complaining about March Madness' system of all things. Compared to the clusterfuck that is football's postseason (and let's not kid ourselves, the new "playoffs" system is just a new spin on the same old BC$), this is amazing.

[KC_Connection]

Another good game going on.

[WhawhaWhat]

I don't get why people are complaining about March Madness' system of all things. Compared to the cluster**** that is football's postseason (and let's not kid ourselves, the new "playoffs" system is just a new spin on the same old BC$), this is amazing.

It's part of the grieving process.

[KC_Connection]

UNC size making a difference. So is Paige. I figured they'd win this one, but many ISU 3 attempts to come.

[MotherfuckerJones]

The only time people complain is when they are the ones getting knocked out.... Get over it... I am sure my Heels will be gone in an hour and a half or so...

Go heels! Paige is elite.

[Baby Lee]

Huckleberry brought his lucky penny to March Coinness!!

[KC_Connection]

Huckleberry brought his lucky penny to March Coinness!!
He's just lucky he's not playing KU for the 3rd year in a row.

[R8RFAN]

He's just lucky he's not playing KU for the 3rd year in a row.

The way KU played? :LOL:

[Baby Lee]

He's just lucky he's not playing KU for the 3rd year in a row.

His team would've enjoyed the bye the would have had today.

[KC_Connection]

His team would've enjoyed the bye the would have had today.
Different styles breed different game dynamics. I had assumed again this would be something well known about basketball.

[tk13]

The fighting RustShacks have made it all the way back. Give them credit. Tie game.

[Baby Lee]

Different styles breed different game dynamics. I had assumed again this would be something well known about basketball.

I get it, I get it, there is no better or worse in college basketball. There's just lucky days and unlucky days. And to pretend that an unlucky day in the national championship race is a farce, because it's just luck. But if you have enough lucky days against the B12, you are an elite organization of monumental accomplishment, . . . in luck having.

[Pepe Silvia]

Great game.

[Buck]

Great games today

[tk13]

It's weird watching a game where a Roy Williams' team needs to slow it down to have an advantage.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Have to go 2 for 1

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

lol

[dirk digler]

NC playing lazy D

[Buck]

Late call.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

late whistle

[KC_Connection]

I get it, I get it, there is no better or worse in college basketball. There's just lucky days and unlucky days. And to pretend that an unlucky day in the national championship race is a farce, because it's just luck. But if you have enough lucky days against the B12, you are an elite organization.
Do you even grasp the concept of sample size? Or is that another thing that's too much for you to handle (like apparently losing a single college basketball game is)?

[Pepe Silvia]

Tar Hole call.

[Shag]

52% shooter, and hits both? Fuck me...

[Shag]

Kane!!!!

[SPchief]

WTF just happened?

[Buck]

Stupid timeout

[dirk digler]

what a shot by Kane

[tk13]

Seemed like the clock started late there.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

How do you fuck up the clock there? Someone should be shot.

[SPchief]

Just dumb to cal that time out

[Buck]

Seemed like the clock started late there.


Yeah didn't start for like a second. He should have had to shoot from at least half court.

[KC_Connection]

Why would you call timeout there at all times? Looks like ISU moving on.

[tk13]

It did start late. Tough call there.

[Pepe Silvia]

Dumb move. Clones off to the Sweet 16.

[KC_Connection]

Kane is a man among boys. Literally. He's the key to this team, not Niang.

[TLO]

What a klusterfuk

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

game should be over.

[Buck]

He took 3 dribbles before th clock started

[tk13]

I can't believe they aren't talking about the fact the clock didn't start.

[Baby Lee]

Do you even grasp the concept of sample size? Or is that another thing that's too much for you to handle (like apparently losing a single college basketball game is)?

You are AT LEAST as invested in establishing a 2 seed losing to a 10 seed as the least consequential game in history to cushion your disappointment as I am in expecting a team of KU/Self's pedigree to perform at least competently when it counts.

[Pants]

Kane is a man among boys. Literally. He's the key to this team, not Niang.

He just started walking like a boss after he converted. LOL

0 fucks given.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Seriously. Shoot the motherfucker responsible.

[WilliamTheIrish]

tk is correct. The clock DID NOT start on time. This game is over.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Game's over. Pack it up.

[Buck]

He took 3 dribbles before th clock started


More like 1

[siberian khatru]

Grats to the Clones

[SPchief]

Game

[Buck]

Dumbass didn't even take a shot.

[Shag]

CLONES!! Yeah, baby!

It's a real shame about Niang - I think ISU could have legitimately emerged out of that region, though MSU is tough. Kane is an absolute stud...

[Baby Lee]

Grats to the Clones

For what? A coin toss?

[R8RFAN]

I knew they would lose...

[Pants]

For what? A coin toss?

OMG

You're like a scorned woman.

[TLO]

Boo clones reping the Big 12. Congrats to them and that douche bag RustShack.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Roy... Guy knows how to be dignified in defeat. I have to give the guy credit for that.

[Pants]

I knew they would lose...

Weak.

[R8RFAN]

Weak.

Yep... All season...

[Bearcat]

For what? A coin toss?

Jesus.

[Baby Lee]

Jesus.

No, but I'd like to think he's a friend

[Pasta Little Brioni]

16 offensive boards for tenn. ROFL

[WilliamTheIrish]

BL, you're killing it today. (you scorned woman)

[KC_Connection]

You are AT LEAST as invested in establishing a 2 seed losing to a 10 seed as the least consequential game in history to cushion your disappointment as I am in expecting a team of KU/Self's pedigree to perform at least competently when it counts.
You really need to get over this. KU played a basketball game without their best player and lost it. Not an especially surprising conclusion to their season if you spent any time watching them. They had a good year overall as a result, but not a great one. It's not the end of the world here.

[GoChargers]

Baby Lee is seriously still crying about that game? At some point it's time to get over it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

BL, you keep going and there will be a general boycott of your sponsors.

[lcarus]

You really need to get over this. KU played a basketball game without their best player and lost it. Not an especially surprising conclusion to their season if you spent any time watching them. They had a good year overall as a result, but not a great one. It's not the end of the world here.

I'm not shocked at all. I really DID expect them to beat Stanford even with Embiid being out, but I really wavered on picking them to advance when filling out my bracket. I figured it would be a loss to New Mexico but whatever. Shame they couldn't get through today and get Embiid back for a very winnable game against Dayton.

[KC_Connection]

He just started walking like a boss after he converted. LOL

0 ****s given.
He might be the difference for them from past years. A run to the FF is right there now.

[tk13]

If you're keeping score... the Atlantic 10 has as many teams left as the ACC, one. Virginia still has to play tonight.

[Shag]

He might be the difference for them from past years. A run to the FF is right there now.

He's definitely going to have to carry the team, and guys like Long are going to have to keep stepping up without Niang. Nova losing helps, but I'm seeing a meetup with MSU in the Elite 8 that's going to be tough...

[lcarus]

I really do love the March Madness system in determining a champion. Yeah it does kind of suck that one bad game and you're out, but the teams that are playing the best at the end of the season usually go far. A lot of the games are "flukey" but you just gotta avoid the fluke loss. Duke is clearly a better team than Mercer, for example, but they shat the bed and don't deserve to be champs.

[Baby Lee]

Baby Lee is seriously still crying about that game? At some point it's time to get over it.

Yeah!! Like this is the NCAA Tournament thread or something.

If we want to be considered an elite program, we have to face it when we kinda suck ass sometimes, sometimes important times.

Fluffing this off, says more about how little you regard KU's actual national status, than a little chuff from me, mostly needling Pollyanna KC_C.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

This is Rusty and the euro ballas year

[KC_Connection]

16 offensive boards for tenn. ROFL
Talk about an underseeded team there. They're 6th in KenPom. LMAO

[KC_Connection]

He's definitely going to have to carry the team, and guys like Long are going to have to keep stepping up without Niang. Nova losing helps, but I'm seeing a meetup with MSU in the Elite 8 that's going to be tough...
They're all tough from this point. If ISU sticks to their style and hits their threes (which is the big if), they could beat anybody.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Talk about an underseeded team there. They're 6th in KenPom. LMAO

They have been hot lately. Supposedly cause their coach started playing one shining moment ROFL for them they are 7 and one losing to Florida in a close one

[KC_Connection]

Yeah!! Like this is the NCAA Tournament thread or something.

If we want to be considered an elite program, we have to face it when we kinda suck ass sometimes, sometimes important times.

Fluffing this off, says more about how little you regard KU's actual national status, than a little chuff from me, mostly needling Pollyanna KC_C.
For those who actually understand the game (and pay attention to it for longer than a single week), KU's status as a college basketball power isn't impacted at all by losing in a single game crapshoot tournament without their best player. They're still going to be right back in the top 5 next year as good as ever. Is Duke suddenly not an elite college basketball programs in the country because they've lost to a 14 and a 15 seed in 2 of the last 3 years? Should they be firing Coach K? LMAO

[KC_Connection]

They have been hot lately. Supposedly cause their coach started playing one shining moment ROFL for them they are 7 and one losing to Florida in a close one
I'm sure I'm going to hear a lot more about that story from CBS next week.

[Baby Lee]

For those who actually understand the game (and pay attention to it for longer than a single week), KU's status as a college basketball power isn't impacted at all by losing in a single game crapshoot tournament without their best player. They're still going to be right back in the top 5 next year as good as ever. Is Duke suddenly not an elite college basketball programs in the country because they've lost to a 14 and a 15 seed in 2 of the last 3 years? Should they be firing Coach K? LMAO

Oh, go fuck yourself, I watched nearly every game this year and last, and the year before, and I had to sit here and watch a crappy stream, live, commercials and all, to do it.

And as for Duke, you bet there are musings if Coach K is losing an edge or something. You bet top recruits are wondering if this is still the best place to showcase their wares. And you damn sure bet there will be talk about if Duke deserves the benefit of the doubt in top seeding next year.

[lcarus]

Yeah!! Like this is the NCAA Tournament thread or something.

If we want to be considered an elite program, we have to face it when we kinda suck ass sometimes, sometimes important times.

Fluffing this off, says more about how little you regard KU's actual national status, than a little chuff from me, mostly needling Pollyanna KC_C.

Sure we've shit the bed quite a few times. Certainly more than we should. But we've had plenty of success.

2001: Lost in Sweet 16 to Illinois
2002: Lost in Final Four to Maryland
2003: Lost in National Championship Game to Syracuse
2004: Lost in Elite 8 to Georgia Tech
2005/2006: First round losses to Bucknell and Bradley
2007: Lost in Elite 8 to UCLA
2008: Defeated Memphis for National Championship
2009: Lost to Michigan State in Sweet 16
2010: Lost to Northern Iowa in round of 32
2011: Lost to VCU in Elite 8
2012: Lost to Kentucky in National Championship Game
2013: Lost to Michigan in Sweet 16
2014: Lost to Stanford in round of 32

The losses to Bucknell, Bradley, and Northern Iowa really hurt, but aside from those it's been pretty damn successful since the start of the century.

4 Final Four appearances, 3 championship game appearances, 7 Elite 8 appearances, 10 Sweet 16 appeances. Only 1 championship but it was a sweet one that I'll never forget as long as I live.

[lcarus]

This is Rusty and the euro ballas year

That's cool with me. I hope Iowa State wins. And Baylor. Go Big 12.

[Mr. Plow]

No, he likes all skins. Maximal contact is encouraged and no fouls will be called.

[sorry plow, I don't know you, but I want to bust some balls]

Don't let my tears stop you from feeling better about yourself.

[Pants]

Sure we've shit the bed quite a few times. Certainly more than we should. But we've had plenty of success.

2001: Lost in Sweet 16 to Illinois
2002: Lost in Final Four to Maryland
2003: Lost in National Championship Game to Syracuse
2004: Lost in Elite 8 to Georgia Tech
2005/2006: First round losses to Bucknell and Bradley
2007: Lost in Elite 8 to UCLA
2008: Defeated Memphis for National Championship
2009: Lost to Michigan State in Sweet 16
2010: Lost to Northern Iowa in round of 32
2011: Lost to VCU in Elite 8
2012: Lost to Kentucky in National Championship Game
2013: Lost to Michigan in Sweet 16
2014: Lost to Stanford in round of 32

The losses to Bucknell, Bradley, and Northern Iowa really hurt, but aside from those it's been pretty damn successful.

4 Final Four appearances, 3 championship game appearances, 7 Elite 8 appearances, 10 Sweet 16 appeances. Only 1 championship but it was a sweet one that I'll never forget as long as I live.

UNI and VCU were true heart-breakers because those Kansas teams were so stacked and primed to be champions. No loss has ever affected me like that UNI loss. Bucknell and Bradley were a fucking joke compared to UNI.

[lcarus]

UNI and VCU were true heart-breakers because those Kansas teams were so stacked and primed to be champions. No loss has ever affected me like that UNI loss. Bucknell and Bradley were a fucking joke compared to UNI.

Yeah that Northern Iowa game really stung. I think the absolute WORST I've felt after a game was the Michigan loss last season. Mainly because we just HAD that game in the bag.

[dirk digler]

For those who actually understand the game (and pay attention to it for longer than a single week), KU's status as a college basketball power isn't impacted at all by losing in a single game crapshoot tournament without their best player. They're still going to be right back in the top 5 next year as good as ever. Is Duke suddenly not an elite college basketball programs in the country because they've lost to a 14 and a 15 seed in 2 of the last 3 years? Should they be firing Coach K? LMAO

You think Embid is a better player than Wiggins? I thought everyone was predicting Wiggins to be the next Lebron?

[Pants]

Yeah that Northern Iowa game really stung. I think the absolute WORST I've felt after a game was the Michigan loss last season. Mainly because we just HAD that game in the bag.

I agree, getting Burked was absolutely brutal. Last year's team wasn't as dominant as that 2010 team, though, so it still didn't sting as much.

[Prison Bitch]

The biggest kick in the nuts was clearly 1998 losing to Rhode Island second round with two first team AA and a 35-3 team. In a packed house in OKC where RI brought about 8 fans. We had Valparaiso waiting then 3-seed Stanford who wasn't very good. The title game had two ok teams in it. An epic disaster.

[Pants]

You think Embid is a better player than Wiggins? I thought everyone was predicting Wiggins to be the next Lebron?

Sounds like you thought wrong, then.

[lcarus]

The biggest kick in the nuts was clearly 1998 losing to Rhode Island second round with two first team AA and a 35-3 team. In a packed house in OKC where RI brought about 8 fans. We had Valparaiso waiting then 3-seed Stanford who wasn't very good. The title game had two ok teams in it. An epic disaster.

That one hurt too.

[KC_Connection]

You think Embid is a better player than Wiggins? I thought everyone was predicting Wiggins to be the next Lebron?
Already responded to this exact post in this very thread with the same ludicrous LeBron comp. But yes, Embiid was a more impactful player than Wiggins for KU. That doesn't, however, mean Wiggins was bad. He had a great year (top 10-15 in NCAA).

[Pants]

That one hurt too.

Well, 97 did as well. But that was so long ago, even the scars from those wounds are gone by now.

[tk13]

Baylor is on fire. Lead Creighton 19-7 only seven minutes into the game.

[GoChargers]

And as for Duke, you bet there are musings if Coach K is losing an edge or something. You bet top recruits are wondering if this is still the best place to showcase their wares. And you damn sure bet there will be talk about if Duke deserves the benefit of the doubt in top seeding next year.
Maybe Rat Face will start to get questioned a bit, but other than that, Dook will still get recruits, and they'll still get drastically overrated and overseeded and get de facto home games to start the tournament next year just like they do every year.

[KC_Connection]

Oh, go **** yourself, I watched nearly every game this year and last, and the year before, and I had to sit here and watch a crappy stream, live, commercials and all, to do it.

And yet you still lack enormous understanding/perspective about success and still are ripping 19 year old kids for not caring despite the fact they're off crying in the locker room. No, dude, you go fuck yourself.




And as for Duke, you bet there are musings if Coach K is losing an edge or something. You bet top recruits are wondering if this is still the best place to showcase their wares. And you damn sure bet there will be talk about if Duke deserves the benefit of the doubt in top seeding next year.
Duke has been the 2nd most successful program in the country over Self's 10 year run. As long as Coach K is there, they'll be more than fine (you probably aren't aware of this, but they have 2 of the top 5 recruits going in there next year).

[dirk digler]

Sounds like you thought wrong, then.

Probably

Andrew Wiggins, considered the best high school basketball player since LeBron James, could shift the NCAA basketball landscape when he announces his college decision Tuesday, choosing between four programs with little TV-centered theatrics.

"This kid is even better than advertised when you see him in person," college basketball analyst Dick Vitale said by phone Monday of Wiggins, the American Family Insurance ALL-USA Player of the Year. "He fits into the category of LeBron James as a high school player we've never seen before because of his explosiveness."

[Baby Lee]

And yet you still lack enormous understanding/perspective about success and still are ripping 19 year old kids for not caring despite the fact they're off crying in the locker room. No, dude, you go fuck yourself.




Duke has been the 2nd most successful program in the country over Self's 10 year run. As long as Coach K is there, they'll be more than fine (you probably aren't aware of this, but they have 2 of the top 5 recruits going in there next year).

Don't turn cunt, cunt.

[KC_Connection]

Baylor is on fire. Lead Creighton 19-7 only seven minutes into the game.
Baylor's ceiling as a team is very high. Despite their flakiness, we always knew that. Wouldn't be surprised at all if they pull it off.

[sedated]

Wiggins was never "the next LeBron", he was "the best recruit since LeBron"

[KC_Connection]

Probably
Dick Vitale LMAO

[Pants]

Certainly

FYP

[KC_Connection]

Wiggins was never "the next LeBron", he was "the best recruit since LeBron"
Most hyped recruit since LeBron anyway. Oden, Durant, and Davis all better.

[dirk digler]

Already responded to this exact post in this very thread with the same ludicrous LeBron comp. But yes, Embiid was a more impactful player than Wiggins for KU. That doesn't, however, mean Wiggins was bad. He had a great year (top 10-15 in NCAA).

I don't disagree that Embid had a big impact but Wiggins has more overall talent and is a better player.

[KC_Connection]

I don't disagree that Embid had a big impact but Wiggins has more overall talent

Based on what exactly?


and is a better player.
Not yet, he isn't.

Keep in mind, I'm somebody who has watched them play every minute this year.

[Titty Meat]

If Wiggins was the guy teams were tanking for yikes. Hes talented but it doesn't seem to have the mentality where he's going to take over the game.

[KC_Connection]

If Wiggins was the guy teams were tanking for yikes. Hes talented but it doesn't seem to have the mentality where he's going to take over the game.
He just turned 19.

[dirk digler]

Based on what exactly?


Not yet, he isn't.

Keep in mind, I'm somebody who has watched them play every minute this year.

I think Wiggins can effect the game in all areas. Hasn't Embid only played basketball for 3 years or something like that?

I do agree with you he is over-hyped but there was a ton of people comparing him to Lebron coming out.

[R8RFAN]

If Wiggins was the guy teams were tanking for yikes. Hes talented but it doesn't seem to have the mentality where he's going to take over the game.

Kids Fuck Up from time to time... It's a team game, you can't expect a 19 yr old to carry a team.

Same situation in Carolina

Life goes on

[KC_Connection]

I think Wiggins can effect the game in all areas. Hasn't Embid only played basketball for 3 years or something like that?

So can Embiid. Just at a different position. Amazingly, Joel is also a better passer than Wiggins at this point in their careers too. It's amazing how high his BB IQ is considering the lack of experience.


I do agree with you he is over-hyped but there was a ton of people comparing him to Lebron coming out.
That's unfortunate for him as LeBron is an all-time great. Just about impossible to measure up to him. Wiggins is his own player, though, and should be great at the next level.

[TLO]

Baylor is kicking ass.

[Pablo]

Holy shit. They are smoking Creighton.

[KC_Connection]

Where was this Baylor all season? Peaking at the right time, I guess.

[lewdog]

I hate Gonzaga. Go Cats!

[KC_Connection]

These last 2 games are pretty terrible compared to the afternoon slate. Unless Pangos can do something for Gonzaga, it looks like UVA and Zona blowouts.

[Prison Bitch]

Baylor has cherry and Heslip at guard. We have two retards.

[lewdog]

Nice job Zags...you're garbage.

[Ultra Peanut]

Basketball is SO twelve hours ago, you guys.

(brb getting stupendously drunk)

[Baby Lee]

Basketball is SO twelve hours ago, you guys.

(brb getting stupendously drunk)

Sig glance.

[greatgooglymoogly]

I'm hearing some interesting rumbles from Stillwater. Boosters have apparently turned on Ford in a mass movement, refusing to re-up season tix unless he is gone. A few are even threatening to hand in football tix and withhold donations.

[KC_Connection]

I'm hearing some interesting rumbles from Stillwater. Boosters have apparently turned on Ford in a mass movement, refusing to re-up season tix unless he is gone. A few are even threatening to hand in football tix and withhold donations.
OSU is going to be terrible without Smart and Brown next year anyway.

[greatgooglymoogly]

OSU is going to be terrible without Smart and Brown next year anyway.

Yeah, the Pokes are seething. They felt that Ford wasted Smart - he didn't win a single NCAA tournament game during his time there. They're also pissed at AD Mike Holder for giving Ford a contract extension through 2019 that would pay him $2.8 million per year.

[Reerun_KC]

Damn seeing baylor and isu advance. Jfc kansas

[Titty Meat]

Damn seeing baylor and isu advance. Jfc kansas

They are better teams.

[KC_Connection]

They are better teams.
KU is 4-1 against those "better teams" this season.

[Titty Meat]

KU is 4-1 against those "better teams" this season.

Iowa State just beat them last week dumbass and KU lost to a double digit seed today. Both of those teams are better.

[KC_Connection]

Yeah, the Pokes are seething. They felt that Ford wasted Smart - he didn't win a single NCAA tournament game during his time there. They're also pissed at AD Mike Holder for giving Ford a contract extension through 2019 that would pay him $2.8 million per year.
I don't blame them.

[KC_Connection]

Iowa State just beat them last week dumbass and KU lost to a double digit seed today. Both of those teams are better.
Than a KU with Joel Embiid? Not a chance, they swept them with him. Quit trolling.

[Reerun_KC]

They are better teams.

Yawn

[Titty Meat]

Than a KU with Joel Embiid? Not a chance, they swept them with him. Quit trolling.

KU lost to Stanford without it's point guard

[tk13]

I think this might be the first time Steve Alford has coached a team into the Sweet 16. Maybe he's done it once before.

[KC_Connection]

KU lost to Stanford without it's point guard
Did you even read my post?

[KC_Connection]

I think this might be the first time Steve Alford has coached a team into the Sweet 16. Maybe he's done it once before.
'98-99. UCLA can beat anybody this year too.

[Baby Lee]

Damn seeing baylor and isu advance. Jfc kansas

Coin toss.

Why are you whining about a coin toss so many hours later?

[Why Not?]

U of A looks real good. If they can hit free throws, they have a good shot. Since KU can't win it, go 'cats!

[tk13]

'98-99. UCLA can beat anybody this year too.

You're right. I forgot about Southwest Missouri State. I just remember all the flameouts with Iowa and New Mexico. That's 15 years ago... long time.

[Reerun_KC]

Coin toss.

Why are you whining about a coin toss so many hours later?

Cause i paid your mom with said coin. Therefore i have no coin to toss.

[RustShack]

The fighting RustShacks have made it all the way back. Give them credit. Tie game.

Boo clones reping the Big 12. Congrats to them and that douche bag RustShack.

This is Rusty and the euro ballas year

That's cool with me. I hope Iowa State wins. And Baylor. Go Big 12.

Is it wrong to root against ISU because of one poster?

Nope

Thanks friends.

[Prison Bitch]

There's nothing more fun to watch in sports than a Bill Self team grind out a 60-55 win (or loss even) in the NCAA while hitting almost nothing from outside. It is how the game was meant to be played.

Hopefully we can find another 6-4 bruiser or two that can lock you down on def and yet still have the time to throw it away repeatedly or fire bricks from deep.

[KC_Connection]

There's nothing more fun to watch in sports than a Bill Self team grind out a 60-55 win (or loss even) in the NCAA while hitting almost nothing from outside. It is how the game was meant to be played.

13 of the remaining 16 teams play at a slower tempo than KU. LMAO

[Prison Bitch]

13 of the remaining 16 teams play at a slower tempo than KU. LMAO

Isn't tempo adj for SOS? At any rate our tempo under Self in march is slower than most 7th grade girls teams.

[KC_Connection]

Isn't tempo adj for SOS? At any rate our tempo under Self in march is slower than most 7th grade girls teams.
No, it isn't. If you think Self plays a grind it out game with KU, you apparently don't watch a lot of college basketball (which wouldn't a surprise to anyone). Most of the best teams in the NCAA these days play unmercifully slow. KU is well above average in that regard (as a strength is usually transition) and have been since he got here.

[Ultra Peanut]

Sig glance.

rip basketball

R4Ho4uZLf14

[cardken2]

Louisville

[WilliamTheIrish]

There's nothing more fun to watch in sports than a Bill Self team grind out a 60-55 win (or loss even) in the NCAA while hitting almost nothing from outside. It is how the game was meant to be played.

Hopefully we can find another 6-4 bruiser or two that can lock you down on def and yet still have the time to throw it away repeatedly or fire bricks from deep.

Setting the game of basketball back by decades.
Naismith turning over in his grave.

[frankotank]

love this time of year!
filled out two brackets. one smart, one stupid. out of over 250 entrants I'm in 5th place.....with the stupid bracket. LMAO

I've got 12 of the sweet 16 right and all my final fours are still alive.

crazy.

[ChiefaRoo]

This will pipe down the WSU fans for awhile...

I don't know what your giggling about. I believe your team and it's Alpha coach got run out of the gym by Harvard Lite. WSU had a good look to win it.


If you want to needle WSU about this I'll make it my sole purpose on this board to wear you out everytime you post about KU win or lose.

Why don't you just say good game and move on?

[KC_Connection]

I don't know what your giggling about. I believe your team and it's Alpha coach got run out of the gym by Harvard Lite. WSU had a good look to win it.

They're both losses to end seasons. There is no real difference.

I did warn you about how punishing the tournament can be during your trolling last month. WSU was likely just as good as any team in the country this year, but it just takes one bad performance, or one great one by an opponent (like UK) to end a season. And that's exactly what happened.

[RustShack]

@WideRtNattyLt: Iowa State can't get much more clutch... RT @mjshoultz: Last 5 minutes of last 5 games: 85.7% FGs (24-28) and 88.9% 3FGs (8-9). Wow!

[KC_Connection]

@WideRtNattyLt: Iowa State can't get much more clutch... RT @mjshoultz: Last 5 minutes of last 5 games: 85.7% FGs (24-28) and 88.9% 3FGs (8-9). Wow!
Or lucky?

Either way, it doesn't matter now. On to the S16.

[ChiefaRoo]

They're both losses to end seasons. There is no real difference.

I did warn you about how punishing the tournament can be during your trolling last month. WSU was likely just as good as any team in the country this year, but it just takes one bad performance, or one great one by an opponent (like UK) to end a season. And that's exactly what happened.

I certainly didn't need you to point out the reality of single elimination competition to me. That being said I'll take the compliment about this years squad and say the same thing about KU with a fully healthy roster.

KU is elite and does it nearly every year. I respect that. As long as Marshall is coach at WSU then KU will need to make some room on the bench for the Shockers because they'll be back as well. The test of time is the ultimate proof of a programs status.

[WhawhaWhat]

Or lucky?

Either way, it doesn't matter now. On to the S16.

Luck is for losers and they haven't been losing.

[KC_Connection]

Luck is for losers and they haven't been losing.
Depends what timeframe you're talking about there, I suppose.

[KC_Connection]

I certainly didn't need you to point out the reality of single elimination competition to me. That being said I'll take the compliment about this years squad and say the same thing about KU with a fully healthy roster.

Considering you were trolling KU's early round exits a month or so back (despite the fact that they have the most NCAA wins since 2000), perhaps you did need me to point that out. Great teams go down routinely in the tournament...it doesn't mean they weren't great. That can be applied to several of Self's teams and certainly WSU's team this year.

[RealSNR]

I don't know what your giggling about. I believe your team and it's Alpha coach got run out of the gym by Harvard Lite. WSU had a good look to win it.


If you want to needle WSU about this I'll make it my sole purpose on this board to wear you out everytime you post about KU win or lose.

Why don't you just say good game and move on?

It's hilarious because you don't have a leg to stand on. I can't even remember the last time KU DIDN'T make the NCAA tournament. Losing sucks, but it's not like all our hopes and dreams were invested into that one team. Under Self, any year is a chance to go the distance.

You were in here crowing about your Wichita State team acting like such a big badass earlier this season, trying to intimidate us with your song and dance about how you're not afraid of anything, and how all the pressure is supposedly on us.

Now you look like a goat and you're bitching about how nobody's willing to shake your hand and give you any respect. That's because you fucking earned it. You acted like a douchebag, so now you're getting treated like a douchebag.

It's YOU who should just accept it and move on.

[greatgooglymoogly]

Marquette AND VCU forums, as well as Jerry Meyer of 24/7 Sports claiming Shaka Smart (of Oregon, WI) has accepted the Marquette HC job.

Sources
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42991.0

http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/threads/shaka-to-marquette-apparently-sources-are-saying-so.13380/

https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/448160811396386816

[KC_Connection]

Marquette AND VCU forums, as well as Jerry Meyer of 24/7 Sports claiming Shaka Smart (of Oregon, WI) has accepted the Marquette HC job.

Sources
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42991.0

http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/threads/shaka-to-marquette-apparently-sources-are-saying-so.13380/

https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/448160811396386816
Why didn't he take the UCLA job last year? I seem to recall him getting that offer.

[RealSNR]

Why didn't he take the UCLA job last year? I seem to recall him getting that offer.

Oregon, WI is an hour's drive from Milwaukee. Could be a hometown thing? :shrug:

[greatgooglymoogly]

Why didn't he take the UCLA job last year? I seem to recall him getting that offer.

:hmmm: I'm not exactly sure. There were rumors that the program itself was a mess behind the scenes. It would go along with how the Bruins had to settle for Alford. Who knows? Maybe Smart just wanted to be close to home. Marquette isn't a bad job by any means. Some folks just aren't wired for the mega-market programs.

[Mr. Arrowhead]

Just because its UCLA doesnt mean it was a great fit, if he recruits the East/midwest real well UCLA probably wasnt for him if he doesnt have a whole lot of California/West coast connection. Maybe he feels Marquette is the best fit for him

[Pablo]

Wasn't Smart a candidate for the Illinois job a few years back?

Not to say Marquette isn't a good job, but I'd have to believe Illinois and UCLA are both probably more enticing.

[Pablo]

It's hilarious because you don't have a leg to stand on. I can't even remember the last time KU DIDN'T make the NCAA tournament. Losing sucks, but it's not like all our hopes and dreams were invested into that one team. Under Self, any year is a chance to go the distance.

You were in here crowing about your Wichita State team acting like such a big badass earlier this season, trying to intimidate us with your song and dance about how you're not afraid of anything, and how all the pressure is supposedly on us.

Now you look like a goat and you're bitching about how nobody's willing to shake your hand and give you any respect. That's because you fucking earned it. You acted like a douchebag, so now you're getting treated like a douchebag.

It's YOU who should just accept it and move on.Hey now, Chiefaroo wants a nice handshake and pat on the back.

Just be nice and give it to him.

LMAO

[Pablo]

Also, do you all think Archie Miller is going to get some decent looks from bigger programs in the next couple of years?

Never mind, he just signed an extension with Dayton today apparently.

[ChiefaRoo]

Hey now, Chiefaroo wants a nice handshake and pat on the back.

Just be nice and give it to him.

LMAO

Below me you elitist a holes. Truth is Self has lost to a lower seed three of the past five years. Who's program is rising and who's isn't? If you want to brawl about the facts then bring it otherwise sit down and STFU.

[bdj23]

I'm leading my bracket challenge deal, although I really don't care to watch any more basketball.

[ChiefaRoo]

It's hilarious because you don't have a leg to stand on. I can't even remember the last time KU DIDN'T make the NCAA tournament. Losing sucks, but it's not like all our hopes and dreams were invested into that one team. Under Self, any year is a chance to go the distance.

You were in here crowing about your Wichita State team acting like such a big badass earlier this season, trying to intimidate us with your song and dance about how you're not afraid of anything, and how all the pressure is supposedly on us.

Now you look like a goat and you're bitching about how nobody's willing to shake your hand and give you any respect. That's because you ****ing earned it. You acted like a douchebag, so now you're getting treated like a douchebag.

It's YOU who should just accept it and move on.

You're babbling like a school girl Nancy. I secretly think you must be a Nebraska fan.

[Buehler445]

Or lucky?

Either way, it doesn't matter now. On to the S16.

Credit where credit is due. Some of it is luck but a lot is clutch. Kane in particular is clutch. He's done it all year and over a big enough sample size I don't think it's luck. Long, et. al. Maybe, but some of it is definitely clutch.

Marquette AND VCU forums, as well as Jerry Meyer of 24/7 Sports claiming Shaka Smart (of Oregon, WI) has accepted the Marquette HC job.

Sources
http://www.muscoop.com/index.php?topic=42991.0

http://www.vcuramnation.com/forums/threads/shaka-to-marquette-apparently-sources-are-saying-so.13380/

https://twitter.com/jerrymeyer247/status/448160811396386816

Why didn't he take the UCLA job last year? I seem to recall him getting that offer.

Marquette would be stupid. Very stupid.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Below me you elitist a holes. Truth is Self has lost to a lower seed three of the past five years. Who's program is rising and who's isn't? If you want to brawl about the facts then bring it otherwise sit down and STFU.

This is silly. As much as I bash the beakers they always have a damn good season. They have nowhere to rise, but maybe win some more titles.

[ChiefaRoo]

This is silly. As much as I bash the beakers they always have a damn good season. They have nowhere to rise, but maybe win some more titles.

I agree with you. If you listen to beak fans in the end they always point to their titles.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

I agree with you. If you listen to beak fans in the end they always point to their titles.

I mean real titles

[ChiefaRoo]

Also, do you all think Archie Miller is going to get some decent looks from bigger programs in the next couple of years?

Never mind, he just signed an extension with Dayton today apparently.

The best thing Archie Miller has going for him is his wife. Very nice from what I saw.

[ChiefaRoo]

I mean real titles

Agree. But when you talk to beak fans it's a moving target. One minute it's Tradition and National Titles but if they shit the bed then the next minute it's Big12 dominance.

[BlackHelicopters]

The best thing Archie Miller has going for him is his wife. Very nice from what I saw.

Pics?

[Buehler445]

The best thing Archie Miller has going for him is his wife. Very nice from what I saw.

I'll tell you whose wife impressed me was Gregg Marshall's. THAT dude outkicked his coverage. I'm not saying its a bad thing, I probably outkicked my coverage more than anybody on the planet, but Marshall landed himself a pretty good one.

[ChiefaRoo]

Pics?

link for you.
http://www.lostlettermen.com/article/ncaa-tournament-2014-archie-millers-dayton-wife-morgan-photos

[Buehler445]

OK, explain it for the dumbass, what does "WAG" mean.

I've only heard it as Wild Ass Guess.

[lewdog]

Please all feel free to root for the Michigan State Spartans with me.

kthxbye.

[R8RFAN]

Go Wahoos

[Baby Lee]

Agree. But when you talk to beak fans it's a moving target. One minute it's Tradition and National Titles but if they lose a coin flip then the next minute it's Big12 dominance.

FYP ;) - and no, Roo, that's not directed at you.

I don't want KC_C to forget how monumentally stupid I am. ROFL ROFL

[Buehler445]

Please all feel free to root for the Michigan State Spartans with me.

kthxbye.

Out of all the people that pissed all over KUs tournament hopes MSU has been the one I hate the least. That and I respect the fuck out of Izzo. He would be the only guy in the nation I'd trade Self for. I wouldn't do it but is consider it

I don't mind rooting for MSU some.