How's your interest in the NFL trending?

[DaFace]

See poll.

[bdj23]

meh to very meh

[lewdog]

After that last call on the Steelers defender, I think I'm done watching that game.

[CaliforniaChief]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

[Marcellus]

I bitch more but watch as much as I used to. That being said this year could test that statement.

[DaFace]

I've been pretty vocal about this lately. The rule changes over the past decade to completely neuter defenses and hitting, combined with the unrelenting trend toward making star QB's the only thing that matters, have really killed my interest. I dropped NFLST this year and, though I'll still pay attention to Chiefs games when they're on and watch other games when I'm sitting on my ass bored, I'm done committing a ton of my energy toward the game.

Between other sports and getting outside (skiing, hiking, etc.), there are better ways to spend my time.

The poll is primarily just because I'm curious to what extent I'm not alone in this.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

In its attempt to grow by catering to fantasy enthusiasts and bright, flashy scoreboard changes, the NFL has become football for people who don't like football.

[Sandy Vagina]

It has dropped a bit.. but I am stubborn.. and pro football had always been so important to me. Not at all amused with these new rules for the offense though... and refs always seem to want to **** my teams.

[Easy 6]

Between the vaginafication of the game and the way KC has looked this year, I'm definitely trending down.

Tonights game is a prime example of my first point, then to hear that puppet tool Carey get on there and say "it was an excellent call!"... yeah, they're killing this game.

[Kidd Lex]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

This is right on

[Bugeater]

Decreased slightly. Definitely annoyed by all the same things but still far and away the sport I enjoy watching the most.

[Bowser]

Downward. My interest in the NFL is trending downward.

[Perineum Ripper]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

This is exactly what I think

[CoMoChief]

I used to go to about 4 games a season.

Now I only go to 1.

I don't really watch anyone else other than the Chiefs, unless they're highlights on NFL live or something. I can't stand ESPN though. Thanks to them my interest has fallen.

[TribalElder]

College football >>>>>> NFL

[DaFace]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

I do wonder how much #1 affects my opinion about #2. If I were a Broncos fan, would I be ecstatic about everything because the league is changing the rules in ways that benefit my team's style of play? It's certainly possible.

[CoMoChief]

I've been pretty vocal about this lately. The rule changes over the past decade to completely neuter defenses and hitting, combined with the unrelenting trend toward making star QB's the only thing that matters, have really killed my interest. I dropped NFLST this year and, though I'll still pay attention to Chiefs games when they're on and watch other games when I'm sitting on my ass bored, I'm done committing a ton of my energy toward the game.

Between other sports and getting outside (skiing, hiking, etc.), there are better ways to spend my time.

The poll is primarily just because I'm curious to what extent I'm not alone in this.

Dude if I lived in Denver there's no way I'd spend anytime indoors other than to eat, shit, shower, sleep etc.

[Bugeater]

I do wonder how much #1 affects my opinion about #2. If I were a Broncos fan, would I be ecstatic about everything because the league is changing the rules in ways that benefit my team's style of play? It's certainly possible.
Some Donko fan will be along shortly to inform you that there have been no changes to the rules.

[Mennonite]

Downward. 10 years ago, I would watch any football whether it was a team I gave a crap about or not. Not so much these days. The product on the field just isn't as good.

[MMXcalibur]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

Pretty much this.

I'm more excited for the Penguins regular season. I will always watch the Chiefs, but I am finding myself less and less upset with each game that the Chiefs look absolutely pathetic. For instance, last Sunday against Tennessee, I think I got upset once (the Smith deep ball from the 2 yd. line with :40 left in the 1st half). I've come to the realization that the Chiefs are fucking incompetent no matter who's in charge, and there's always a nagging thought in the back of my mind that the Chiefs aren't popular enough to get the calls needed when it matters most. Stupid thought perhaps, but this is a star-driven league and the NFL wants to see Peyton Manning break records than a team from the mid-west reach the mountain top.

[FloridaMan88]

Downward and it has everything to do with the Chiefs decline.

[Bearcat]

7-10 years ago, the NFL was the priority and college football was something to have on in the background. I'd watch a lot of random NFL games and catch pretty much every playoff game.

As far as football, these days it's almost all about college. Thought about watching the Packers/Seahawks, forgot about it... meh. Went to lunch Sunday, mowed the lawn, fast forwarded through the first quarter of the Chiefs game, flipped it to the last few innings of the Royals game. :shrug:

Voted 2, only because if the same group that bought Sporting ever bought the Chiefs, I'd be tempted to buy season tickets or at least head back to Arrowhead a few times/season.

As I've said before, the NFL is the light lager of sports... watered down for mass consumption and high profits. People might lol about soccer or hockey ratings/popularity in the US, but those leagues care more about the product and fans... don't tell anyone though, niche is good.

[noa]

I probably won't watch an entire game this year. My general interest is waning, and life events are also drawing me elsewhere. I have a 1 year old, so I'd much rather spend all my free time with him and my wife than watch a game in the middle of one of my free days. I still follow everything and check the recaps, highlights, and stats for most of the games, though.

[Mennonite]

What on the field changes over the last ten years have actually made the game better?

10 years ago, what percentage of fans hated the commissioner and the league?

[tecumseh]

I'm starting to lean towards college. I haven't gone to a game in three years. Sunday ticket so I can watch the Chiefs and not be stuck watching dog games. I'm curious to see where all these rule changes are taking the game.

[notorious]

2003: Peyton and Indy bitches about defensive holding, it gets called a lot more.


2014: Peyton gets fisted by Seattle and a physical defense, league throws a billion more flags.

I see a trend

[Otter]

Hockey season starts in less than a month.

[Discuss Thrower]

The Chiefs suck. They're going to suck for the rest of the decade. There's nothing that draws my interest to the rest of the league because they more concerned with marketing the NFC East, Peyton and Brady more than anything else.

This is the least I've cared about football since I started downloading porn on a 56k connection as a 13 year old.

[notorious]

The Chiefs suck. They're going to suck for the rest of the decade. There's nothing that draws my interest to the rest of the league because they more concerned with marketing the NFC East, Peyton and Brady more than anything else.

Yep.

That's why we need to take shots at a star QB. That will be the only way we are allowed to win a Superbowl.

[ChiefsCountry]

The Royals have made my attention in the NFL way down than normal. I can see why St. Louis fans basically ignore the Rams for the most part.

[Psyko Tek]

I do wonder how much #1 affects my opinion about #2. If I were a Broncos fan, would I be ecstatic about everything because the league is changing the rules in ways that benefit my team's style of play? It's certainly possible.

even though we were winning in the vermiel years, I hated the lack of D

[Discuss Thrower]

The Royals have made my attention in the NFL way down than normal. I can see why St. Louis fans basically ignore the Rams for the most part.

If the Royals make it to Festivus this year.. Where are you watching in Sgf

[Otter]

I've been pretty vocal about this lately. The rule changes over the past decade to completely neuter defenses and hitting, combined with the unrelenting trend toward making star QB's the only thing that matters, have really killed my interest. I dropped NFLST this year and, though I'll still pay attention to Chiefs games when they're on and watch other games when I'm sitting on my ass bored, I'm done committing a ton of my energy toward the game.

Between other sports and getting outside (skiing, hiking, etc.), there are better ways to spend my time.

The poll is primarily just because I'm curious to what extent I'm not alone in this.

QBs have always been a huge factor. The rest I agree with unconditionally.

[chefsos]

Five years ago, I'd repeatedly sneak into a corner or something and check the score if I was working on Sunday. Now, I leave the phone in the truck.

I didn't even look at highlights from Sunday, for any game, when I got home. Still haven't.

[Iconic]

0

Hala Madrid.

[Rain Man]

I'll echo what some of the other low rankers have said. I've evolved from an avid football fan to complete ambivalence over the past few years. I would say it's really the last two years more than the last five. I never thought this would happen, and it took a long time to acknowledge that it was true.

I think it's due to a combination of reasons. They are:

1. The prioritization of marketing over product. This has happened very rapidly during Goodell's reign. The NFL has long been a business, but I always felt that there was a balance between the business and the sport. That's changed. It may be Goodell or it may be the loss of old school owners like Lamar Hunt and Bud Adams and Ralph Wilson and even Al Davis who actually loved the game. Whatever the reason, I feel that rules changes are being made for marketing reasons, which is completely and totally wrong.

2. The lack of balance in the game. Pitch and catch, pitch and catch. Score 35 points or you're not going to win. I'll acknowledge that I came of age in an era of unparalleled defense, and I don't need to go back to that era. There was a good balance in the 80s and 90s. Now there's no balance at all. The running game is such a low priority that running backs aren't even considered worthy of a first-round pick. Defenses have been neutered. It's making the game boring to people who are students of the game.

3. The league's ego. As indicated by the demand that Super Bowl performers pay, and the ludicrous demands made of Super Bowl cities, and the demand for taxpayer-funded stadiums that aren't necessary, the NFL is a big bully that throws its weight around. Ticket prices are so expensive that fans increasingly can't afford to go see a game, as evidenced by the playoffs last year. The modern NFL regime is no longer part of the community.

4. The domination of accounting in the sport. I like the concept of a salary cap, and for a long time it was interesting to me to think about building a team when everyone's resources are equal. But I now realize that everyone's resources aren't equal, and the game is more about creative contracts than about player evaluation. This year is a perfect example. The Chiefs lost several good players and signed second-tier players to stay within the cap. The Broncos sign the most expensive free agents every year and never seem to have a cap problem. Peyton Manning, Demarcus Ware, Talib, Welker...the list goes on and on. So either the Broncos are cheating on the salary cap (which we know has happened in the past) or they have better accountants. Either way, contract structures completely override talent evaluation in the modern NFL.

5. The Chiefs suck. Admittedly, if the Chiefs had won a Super Bowl or two, or even a playoff game or two, perhaps my disinterest would be lower. But they haven't. This really isn't a major factor because I was an avid fan for 40+ years of futility, but I'll admit that it probably plays a factor.

6. The players and the money. There's too much money in the game now. Players who don't love the game are forced to play because it would be crazy not to. They're millionaires. On top of that, the money is so big that it affects the players and you get Pacman Jones and Ben Roethlisberger and Bill Romanowski and John Elway and the Pouncey brothers and Ray Lewis and on and on and on. There are a lot of good football players, but there are a lot of objectionable people on the field too, and when you're 51 years old it's weird to idolize 22 year-olds anyway, much less 22 year-olds who shoot people and drive drunk and attack women.

7. My age. I'm 51. I've watched probably 800 to 1,000 football games now. It's possible that I'm just reaching a saturation point, which is no one's fault.

8. The NFL's marketing strategy. Independent of Point #1 above, the NFL's marketing strategy doesn't work for me. The marketing is shallow and promotes spectacle over sport. They've sent a strong message to purist fans like me that they don't care about us. They think they'll never lose us, so they're ignoring us and pursuing "fans at a glance" who will watch 30 minutes of a game on Sunday and buy the jersey of last year's Super Bowl team.

9. Fantasy football. Stop it. Please stop it. It's not so much the game itself. The game is fine. But I despise hearing people talk about it at sports bars and asking everyone, "Who scored that touchdown in the Atlanta-Carolina game" and commenting about fantasy football during a game. Stop it. Please stop it.

Any one or two or three of those probably wouldn't dampen my enthusiasm. But all of them combined have driven me from the NFL. I still love football, and have been pondering going back and volunteering for a semi-pro team like I did a few years back. I love the sport; it's just the business of the NFL that is putting me off.

[Reerun_KC]

I've been pretty vocal about this lately. The rule changes over the past decade to completely neuter defenses and hitting, combined with the unrelenting trend toward making star QB's the only thing that matters, have really killed my interest. I dropped NFLST this year and, though I'll still pay attention to Chiefs games when they're on and watch other games when I'm sitting on my ass bored, I'm done committing a ton of my energy toward the game.

Between other sports and getting outside (skiing, hiking, etc.), there are better ways to spend my time.

The poll is primarily just because I'm curious to what extent I'm not alone in this.
Exactly all of this

[notorious]

If the NFL didn't have fantasy, College would surpass them in the near future.

[kysirsoze]

The NFL's arrow is pointing down.

[headsnap]

Everything Rainman said!

Also, I feel as if I had seen the man behind the curtain, the NFL is entertainment, not sport. I have better things to do on a Sunday than just be entertained(I don't have a favorite actor, why then should I have a favorite NFL team logo?)

[Bwana]

3 and trending down.

[Nzoner]

I voted #2,I used to be as hardcore as they come but as many of you know my total view has changed as I think the NFL is nothing more than entertainment.It's all about fantasy football and Vegas spreads.

[Strongside]

Baseball has become more of an enjoyment for me in recent years. I was at one point an extreme NFL fan. Rule changes, coupled with a bunch of other dumbass, questionable moves by both the league and the Chiefs have waned my interest pretty substantially. I'm still a STH, but I'm finding it much easier to devote both my time and money to other outlets lately. I think that the NFL is working so hard to protect its image and spread the game to new fans that they've forgotten what got them to this point in the first place, and that's the native, existing football fans...who they're alienating in mass numbers. The game most of us love is slowly (or not so slowly) becoming a shell of its former self, and that's sad. I fear that I'm going to have to explain the NFL to my kids someday like it was some sort of legend that used to be amazing but doesn't exist anymore. The NFL may end up being the wild West...we will tell our kids/grandkids about how cool it was and how amazing the experience was, but it will be nothing more than a bedtime story. It won't be because of concussions or safety...it will be because greed and poor business decisions ultimately **** fans to the point that we will go somewhere else.

[ChiefsCountry]

If the Royals make it to Festivus this year.. Where are you watching in Sgf

Haven't lived in Springvegas for 5 years now.

[Discuss Thrower]

Haven't lived in Springvegas for 5 years now.

... You're exactly right.

[Mama Hip Rockets]

I am much less interested in the Chiefs and the NFL in general than I have been in the past, even since last year. That playoff game against the Colts just took it out of me. I can't bring myself to care much anymore.

[Iconic]

I think commercial breaks are my biggest grievance with the current product. Just feels like there are wayyyyyyy too many of them and the entire game in general seems to move at a turtles pace.

[Strongside]

I am much less interested in the Chiefs and the NFL in general than I have been in the past, even since last year. That playoff game against the Colts just took it out of me. I can't bring myself to care much anymore.

Yeah, that game did something to me as well. I was at the game, too. I've never felt that defeated after a game. I really didn't give a shit all offseason. It's like getting cheated on or something. You really don't want to put yourself back out there to be vulnerable to another heartbreak.

[Frosty]

It's way up this year now that I am a diehard Seahawks fan! :)


j/k


Between the Chiefs sucking for basically the last 17 years and the league neutering the defenses (the calls in the game tonight were horrendous), my interest is at an all-time low.

[MMXcalibur]

I am much less interested in the Chiefs and the NFL in general than I have been in the past, even since last year. That playoff game against the Colts just took it out of me. I can't bring myself to care much anymore.

This too. I loathe the new "offensive centric" rule changes and pine for the days where if you managed to score 44 points in a game, you were going to win 99.99999999999% of the time. Let me get more centered on the Chiefs though, and rant a bit:

I was so hyped up that the Chiefs would finally win a playoff game last season, something that hadn't happened since I was 8 years old and literally crying to my Mom because the Oilers were beating the Chiefs early in the game. And then, to lose in that fashion, it was just so soul-crushing....similar to watching a locomotive slam into your 92 year old grandmother at top speed, but in slow motion.

After thinking I was going to be rewarded for 20+ years of exceptional service to these dickweeds by absolutely crushing our playoff nemesis for the past umpteen years in their own barn, and these motherfuckers roped me in to do THAT?!?!?

No, you son of a bitches, you just don't get me back on the wagon. You show me that you're not a shitshow anymore, and then I'll get more involved.

Years and years ago, I would actually stick up for the Chiefs in NFL discussions. I'd have the entire KC schedule on my binder, rock my Chiefs Starter jacket, wear KC stuff almost every day, and be obsessed with the players on the team and their stats. Now, I crack jokes at these shitbirds and ask other team fans to take pity on me.

Eat shit, Chiefs.

[Ghost of Maslowski]

my interest in the NFL has reached an all time low. once upon a time, i would watch any two teams play just because i enjoyed the game so much. it didn't even matter if they were any good, if they were division rivals or even rivals at all. they could be fighting it out for the first overall draft pick, and i would still watch. i actually saw quite a few historical NFL moments like that, and i could never get over the feeling that if i didn't watch, i might miss something really special. all that seems like a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.

[Mr. Laz]

dropping like a rock

I used to be hardcore

Draftnik
Free Agency hound
used a program to draw up my own plays just for my own interest in solving problems
recorded and watched each Chiefs' game at least a few times with slomo etc


now ... none of the above

games are choppy and annoying

[Dayze]

I used to live and breathe NFL. very gradually, starting in probably 2006, I started actually watching more and more NCAA. combine the fact that the Chiefs have been awful for decades, the transition has basically been made. I'll watch the Chiefs, but the other games I dont' care for. I don't like the rules; don't like the broadcast presentation of national games, etc.

last week I fell asleep before halftime and woke up around 2:30 to go in the game. I had the game DVRd, and I didn't even watch it afterwards.

if the NCAA ever gets a legit playoff system, it'll be even more kick ass.

[Demonpenz]

dropping. Love soccer, hockey, nascar, and baseball way more.

[ghak99]

Downward.

The rule changes, the fantasy crap, the marketing, the players, espn, Thursday night games.... pretty much everything is driving me away. I rarely make it through more than a quarter of nonchiefs games anymore as compared to watching any game that was on while I was home in its entirety.

The Chiefs suck. I'm sure it is a part of it and I'll still watch them as long as I can, but I'm not paying to go to a game until they see the playoffs in back to back years or give me something to get excited about.

For fucks sake, I miss Martyball. :doh!:

[Dayze]

my interest in the NFL has reached an all time low. once upon a time, i would watch any two teams play just because i enjoyed the game so much. it didn't even matter if they were any good, if they were division rivals or even rivals at all. they could be fighting it out for the first overall draft pick, and i would still watch. i actually saw quite a few historical NFL moments like that, and i could never get over the feeling that if i didn't watch, i might miss something really special. all that seems like a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away.
Well said. Same here.

[007]

Way down. My team sucks. My team lets me down when it matters most. The NFL is neutering the defense which is what made the NFL great. Peyton Manning plays for our rival while the NFL is changing rules to benefit the offense. We don't have a QB that will throw downfield.

Yeah, way down.

[Dayze]

too many posts to capture; tons of the same reasons I DGAF about the NFL anymore.

[L.A. Chieffan]

If the Chiefs went to the Super Bowl in the last five years everyone would have voted higher than a five

[Mr. Flopnuts]

If the Chiefs went to the Super Bowl in the last five years everyone would have voted higher than a five

If the CHUEFS beat the Colts everyone would've voted higher than a 5.

[sd4chiefs]

I have been a Chiefs fan for almost 50 years and this is the most disinterested I have ever been. I cancel my NFL Sunday Ticket for the 1st time in 12 years. I even took off all of the sports stations (ESPN, NFL Network, ect) off my favorite channels list. I have not watch one football game yet and may not watch any all year. I just don't care anymore.

[kcxiv]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

Yep, football went form my favorite sport to my 3rd favorite behind MLB and NBA. There's to many fucking shitty penalties. Sometimes they call it, just because something looked bad and it wasnt. The ticky tack pass interference pentalties are the worse. THey change outcomes of the game.

[Buehler445]

I used to be fucking hardcore.

Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards pissed on my soul. Fuck that Man.

Pioli took a colossal shit on my soul. Fuck that man.

I wanted more than anything for the Chiefs to turn it around.

The Chiefs hired Reid and Dorsey. I wasn't a big fan, but after the conclusion of the hiring/firings, I thought at the time we got the best deal. Then we caught some fire. I was cautiously excited. We shit the bed. I was sure we'd suck and probably miss the playoffs. We win enough to get into the playoffs. I figure we blow ass. We Indy. Cautiously optimistic, but still convinced we get trounced, but maybe Charles would make it reasonable.

Then we crunched their faces. I let it all go. I was balls out excited. Motherfucker we were punking those cocksuckers. WITHOUT Charles. My God. We were going to beat these sons of cunts and get our first playoff win in two goddamned decades. We were going to WIN. FUCK YES!

Then AIDS.

FUUUUUUU*******.

It was hard to get back into it.

But there are some other things that factor in. My wife had our first child. I've had a ridiculously busy growing season in which I worked a stupid amount of hours. Just stupid.

But yeah. I voted 2, because I still make an effort to laugh at watch the Chiefs.

[Phobia]

Everything rain man posted with emphasis on the rules changes. I enjoy watching guys get blown up.

[TimBone]

I bitch more but watch as much as I used to. That being said this year could test that statement.

This is about where I am.

[mikey23545]

I don't "trend".

:#

[Bruiser]

This will be the first year I don't go to a Chiefs game in about a decade.

[Sannyasi]

Downward, but only because the Chiefs suck. The fact that I work Sundays this year has made it easy to tune out.

[Jim Lahey]

NFL is all about that straight cash homie

[bdj23]

College football >>>>>> NFL

This.

And I'm a KU fan

[Reaper16]

I was tempted to put 0, but I chose 1 in light of my reaction to the playoff loss last year. I still care about the Chiefs, but my overall interest in the NFL has almost completely dropped off compared to what it was 5 years ago. I haven't watched a single game this year, and I'm not sure when I'll get around to doing it.

[the Talking Can]

the nfl is a terrible product, and the chiefs are a terrible franchise...unlikely i'll watch a complete game this season, it's tedious

2


college football is more fun, the NBA has a much better product right now, and international soccer is much more fun to watch for a couple hours: no commercials

until the chiefs draft a QB, there isn't a single reason to give a shit about such worthless owners

if you actually enjoy watching Alex Smith try to throw a football, you are a sick fuck

[Dayze]

I used to be ****ing hardcore.

Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards pissed on my soul. **** that Man.

Pioli took a colossal shit on my soul. **** that man.

I wanted more than anything for the Chiefs to turn it around.

The Chiefs hired Reid and Dorsey. I wasn't a big fan, but after the conclusion of the hiring/firings, I thought at the time we got the best deal. Then we caught some fire. I was cautiously excited. We shit the bed. I was sure we'd suck and probably miss the playoffs. We win enough to get into the playoffs. I figure we blow ass. We Indy. Cautiously optimistic, but still convinced we get trounced, but maybe Charles would make it reasonable.

Then we crunched their faces. I let it all go. I was balls out excited. Mother****er we were punking those one who sucks the peniss. WITHOUT Charles. My God. We were going to beat these sons of ****s and get our first playoff win in two goddamned decades. We were going to WIN. **** YES!

Then AIDS.

FUUUUUUU*******.

It was hard to get back into it.

But there are some other things that factor in. My wife had our first child. I've had a ridiculously busy growing season in which I worked a stupid amount of hours. Just stupid.

But yeah. I voted 2, because I still make an effort to laugh at watch the Chiefs.

LMAO

[Dayze]

Everything rain man posted with emphasis on the rules changes. I enjoy watching guys get blown up.

I LOVED the segment they would do on Monday Night Countdown called "Jacked Up" I loved hearing the brothas get loud and rowdy.

pathetic; there are barely any hits now that would even sniff the doorstep of that segment.

[Nzoner]

I'll say one thing on my take,just look at the CP gambling game week 1 and how many CPer's bet on the Broncos to cover at 7 1/2 and then replay the 4th quarter of that game in your head.

And those bets were just one little message board.

[KCUnited]

Trending towards Shiavo.

I basically tune into Chiefs games for the lulz and game thread outrage. I have 0 interest in watching any other NFL games, that's probably due to a combination of the NFL and because Chiefs. That could change in the playoffs, but I doubt it.

[KCTitus]

Trending towards Shiavo.

I basically tune into Chiefs games for the lulz and game thread outrage. I have 0 interest in watching any other NFL games, that's probably due to a combination of the NFL and because Chiefs. That could change in the playoffs, but I doubt it.

Yep. Zero interest in the other games. I tried and tried to give a crap about last nights game. Couldnt. I watched re-runs of UK Top Gear instead. Watching KC has become less about entertainment and at this point an obligation and I hate them for it.

Investing any more emotion into this team is ludicrous at this point.

[Eleazar]

I used to eat up any game that was on television, no matter who it was. Now I turn them on, but I just kind of idly watch while I'm doing other things.

The problem for me is mainly that the game itself is not as fun to watch anymore.

All the rule changes that made the league center entirely on the QB position have degraded the quality of the games and the parity in the league. The rule changes have diminished the value of the running game. The rule changes have changed defense to really only be about the pass rush. You can't hit anyone anymore without getting a personal foul. They even basically removed kickoff returns from the game. It's ridiculous.

[Dave Lane]

They are so low they are about the same as reading one of Debergs depressing threads. It's not pretty.

[MagicHef]

Nearly all of your concerns would vanish if you guys suddenly found yourselves to be fans of the Seahawks.

Defense? Check.
Hard Hitting? Check.
Winning, but not solely due to a superstar QB? Check.

Incidentally, football seems to be extremely popular in the Northwest right now.

[Buehler445]

Nearly all of your concerns would vanish if you guys suddenly found yourselves to be fans of the Seahawks.

Defense? Check.
Hard Hitting? Check.
Winning, but not solely due to a superstar QB? Check.

Incidentally, football seems to be extremely popular in the Northwest right now.

I can't really argue with this. It's mind boggling how the Seahawks were able to win a Super Bowl with primarily defense.

And the Chiefs can't buy a stop.

[KCTitus]

Nearly all of your concerns would vanish if you guys suddenly found yourselves to be fans of the Seahawks...

You mean the current SB champions? Yeah, I can see how that might improve one's opinion of their favorite team. Odd how that works.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

1. My team sucks.

2. I like good, hard-hitting defense. The league is phasing that out.

Nailed it.

[Bearcat]

Nearly all of your concerns would vanish if you guys suddenly found yourselves to be fans of the Seahawks.

Defense? Check.
Hard Hitting? Check.
Winning, but not solely due to a superstar QB? Check.

Incidentally, football seems to be extremely popular in the Northwest right now.

Except the part where I'd have to spend $200 on Sunday ticket, even though I spend $150 to get 5 times the NHL games. I'd be all over it if I lived in Seattle though.

[ModSocks]

Down. I never thought i would feel this way, but i rarely ever watch NFL network anymore when just 3 years ago that's all I ever watched. I use to tune in for all of the NFL i could get, and i hardly watched any of the Ravens/Steelers game last night.

The politics and crazy political correctness has been a huge turn off. And like someone above me mentioned, the fact that a team's success revolves around the need to have a top 5 QB really devalues the importance of the rest of the team. Which means that players who you should be excited about, i can't be excited about because it's all for nothing.

This is probably the least interested i've ever been in the NFL. I avoided the first half of the game last night because im simply tired of hearing about the overreaction to Ray Rice, and even when i did watch, it was sparingly.

I should've canceled my Sunday Ticket, and I likely will.

[siberian khatru]

3 and falling

[Dayze]

yeah. I used to basically live on NFLN.

about a year or so ago, I grew tired of the same programming on over and over and over and over and over again. Compound that with the fact that, because it's the NFL, they pimp the 'it' team in their programming, I tuned out.

the Top 10 lists they do are atrocious. They were cool at first, but now they're just ridiculous.

[ThaVirus]

My interest is taking a dive but I'm fairly certain it has a lot more to do with how bad the Chiefs are than the new league we're transitioning to.

I was really into it last year and this year I'm not even though it doesn't look like anything has change- save for the Chiefs sucking cock. So that's the most likely scenario.

[ChiTown]

Its in the gutter, helped immensely by the fact that the Royals are in a Pennant Race

[Steron]

I voted 2. I used to live and die with the Chiefs. Mind you, it has mostly been die since 1993. During the time I have been a Chiefs fan, I have graduated high school, graduated college, been married, divorced, married, and have become a father of two.

John, Frank, Marty, Gunther, Dick, Herm, Todd, Romeo, and Andy are the coaches I remember. KC won the Super Ball the year I was born. I became a Chiefs fan when the Colts left Baltimore in the middle of the night in a snowstorm. F you Irsay.

I can honestly say, my interest in the NFL is almost nil. I got the Sunday Ticket for Free this year from DirecTV so I might watch a few more games this season. Sundays in my house are for going to church, relaxing, eating a good meal, and preparing for the week.

My oldest boy plays fall baseball and his games are infinitely more entertaining than the NFL. I'll watch those on Sundays.

[siberian khatru]

Even factoring in the Chiefs sucking and the Royals and Mizzou filling that competitive void, I've found myself just not interested in watching other games. A lot of it is because of the rules changes -- I simply don't like the product.

Oddly, I still have a fantasy team, but I mostly just check the head-to-head app on that to see how the numbers are going. I don't seem to really care about games or players. It might as well be a computer simulation of the 1990 season or whatnot. I am oddly detached from the reality of the actual games being played.

[siberian khatru]

It's almost like masturbating to porn. Guess that's why it's called "fantasy" football.

[Manila-Chief]

WOW!!! I thought I was all alone in this mess.

ALL of the ABOVE!!! Mainly the futility of the Chiefs but, also, rule changes and the stuff you guys mentioned.

Man am I delighted the guy at DTV only offered me ... $5 a month discount and then $8 and I canceled it. Since my interest in the NFL is way down, the only team I wanted to watch was the Chiefs and since they (Clark, Dorsey, Reid, Sutton) have totally failed ... I have little interest in watching them. The game this Sun. will be shown locally, but since I already know the outcome ... I'll DVR it but will probably never watch it.

I keep asking ... how can Philly be such a success right away ... how can Elway do what he is doing ... I mean win a playoff game with Tebow ... etc., etc. etc. and we just plain suck???

I must admit that my interest in the NFL has wained because the Chiefs do not have a chance ... it is the same since Marty left (because of the defense we always had a chance) ... lose for a few years ... bring in promising leadership ... show a little promise but fail ... repeat, repeat, repeat. So, yes interest is ....................

Now, if the Chiefs were a valid contender, I'd be interested. For instant ... for several years at best I'd only check the Royals' scores ... no interest in MBL ... not even the W.S. But since the Royals are showing a little promise I now watch a little of MLBNetwok. But, I don't think I'll ever be an avid fan. Same goes for NFL!!!

I thought Dorsey was a good hire, at the time, but his decisions (i.e. allowing Saunders to go to the Donks, etc.) seem to indicate he is in over his head. He is trying to duplicate Green Bay ... he forgets that GB lucked out with Farve and then with Rogers (Alex Smith is neither) ... plus, they made some excellent draft choices. Reid??? I thought if he only focused upon coaching we would have a winner ... but, it is looking like he is past his prime. What little I saw of the game last Sun. I heard the announcer say repeatedly the team didn't look sharp or ready to play.

[Discuss Thrower]

What's really killing my enthusiasm for the league is that it's just a constant reminder that KC will never accomplish anything because they choose to repeat the same failed pattern of building a team around a backup QB in a time where you absolutely have to have an elite QB to have any sort of a chance to win year in and year out.

Why look at the Ferrari dealership when you can't afford a used Yugo?

[Unsmooth-Moment]

The Royals have made my attention in the NFL way down than normal. I can see why St. Louis fans basically ignore the Rams for the most part.

This. I didn't watch muchof the Chiefs last week. Flipped it between the Royals and Redzone channel.

[Manila-Chief]

What's really killing my enthusiasm for the league is that it's just a constant reminder that KC will never accomplish anything because they choose to repeat the same failed pattern of building a team around a backup QB in a time where you absolutely have to have an elite QB to have any sort of a chance to win year in and year out.

Why look at the Ferrari dealership when you can't afford a used Yugo?

Your point is well illustrated in the Alex Smith trade. He was a good QB in SF but they recognized they needed better and went out and got one. Plus, Dorsey overpaid for him and we are stuck long range.

[Ebolapox]

2. I can't add anything to what others have said. life is different, there are more sources of entertainment, and mediocrity will make even the staunchest fan lose interest.

[Hydrae]

After that last call on the Steelers defender, I think I'm done watching that game.

On the call at the goal line, I loved the shots of Tomlin on the sidelines just shaking his head. That and the hit on Rothlisberger were beautiful and if those are penalties then forget it, I am done.

I also agree that some of my attitude right now relates to the playoff travesty last year. As with many, it took something out of me. I will continue to watch but if something else comes up I am much more likely to do that and ignore the NFL than I was just a year ago.

[SPATCH]

My interest has nose-dived, but it's for a reason that I'm really surprised no one has mentioned yet--CTE. CTE has absolutely killed my love of football.

I noticed a decline in my mental capacity when I was about 23 years old (my mental recall was diminished, I started constantly forgetting what I was about to say, always forgetting why I went into a room, etc.). Then, the Frontline special came out and I started to connect all of the dots.

I don't view all of the recent rule changes in the NFL as a sudden desire to want to make the game flashier, I see it mostly as a pre-emptive measure to try and quell the shitstorm that science is about to unleash on the consequences of playing football.

The NFL doesn't want to wind up like boxing. The brutality of boxing became a little bit too real for people when they realized the consequences for the boxers.

That is exactly what happened to me with football. I used to love the brutality. Now I'm jaded by it.

[BlackOp]

3. The NFL has become what I despise most about society. Its over-priced marketing manipulation geared to the lowest common denominator. Its starting to insult my intelligence...corporate greed and PC liars. I'm sick of the stadiums being named after banks and investment groups. Its disgusting..

That said...if KC put a product on the field like Seattle...I would be excited. I not even sure I'm going to bother watching the bloodbath this Sunday..and that sucks only 2 weeks into the season.

[ptlyon]

3. The NFL has become what I despise most about society. Its over-priced marketing manipulation geared to the lowest common denominator. Its starting to insult my intelligence...corporate greed and PC liars.

Your thoughts on the Mormon church would be intriguing!

[Rain Man]

3. The NFL has become what I despise most about society. Its over-priced marketing manipulation geared to the lowest common denominator. Its starting to insult my intelligence...corporate greed and PC liars. I'm sick of the stadiums being named after banks and investment groups. Its disgusting..

Oh, yeah. I should add stadium naming to my list of grievances. It's terrible these days, absolutely terrible. I won't even mention those stupid corporate names. I'll just call it by the old name or refer to as [team name] Stadium.

[BlackOp]

Your thoughts on the Mormon church would be intriguing!

I have no thoughts on them...except if I were a dentist..I would work in Utah. Those freaks have teeth you can see from space...Osmond syndrome.

The strange thing..I don't even know who i'm rooting for anymore.. the players switch teams so quickly. Flowers plays for the Chargers...and Vickerson is a Chief. Am I rooting for a corporate logo...a city...billionaire owners that gouge their fans...what?

[Strongside]

Someone should forward a transcript of this thread to the league office.

[ptlyon]

Someone should forward a transcript of this thread to the league office.

Goodell would just say they never received it

[Rain Man]

Someone should forward a transcript of this thread to the league office.

I don't think we're attractive enough for them to care.

Now, if we changed all of our avatars and usernames to impersonate duckfacing 20-something women, we'd get some action. They'd be on the first flight out here to give us Super Bowl tickets and stuff.

[Strongside]

I don't think we're attractive enough for them to care.

Now, if we changed all of our avatars and usernames to impersonate duckfacing 20-something women, we'd get some action. They'd be on the first flight out here to give us Super Bowl tickets and stuff.

...and therein lies their problem. They forget who their core demographic is. In trying to spread the game to new fans, they have forgotten to take care of existing ones.

[ptlyon]

I have no thoughts on them...except if I were a dentist..I would work in Utah. Those freaks have teeth you can see from space...Osmond syndrome.

The strange thing..I don't even know who i'm rooting for anymore.. the players switch teams so quickly. Flowers plays for the Chargers...and Vickerson is a Chief. Am I rooting for a corporate logo...a city...billionaire owners that gouge their fans...what?

Waddnt srs

[Frosty]

Except the part where I'd have to spend $200 on Sunday ticket, even though I spend $150 to get 5 times the NHL games. I'd be all over it if I lived in Seattle though.

If I were a fan of the Seahawks, I could drop Sunday Ticket, since they are the local team and on local TV every week.

:hmmm:

It's getting to where I mostly watch NFL games to watch my favorite college players play. I watched the game last night only to watch Markus Wheaton. I may end up watching more Saints and Falcons games this season than Chiefs games. :shake:

[Big Poppa Payne]

I'm always more interested in College Football than I am the NFL but this year I might even be more interested in High School Football than the NFL. The NFL sucks right now, it's all about the money and they don't even try to hide it.

[Pepe Silvia]

I voted 2. I used to live and die with the Chiefs. Mind you, it has mostly been die since 1993. During the time I have been a Chiefs fan, I have graduated high school, graduated college, been married, divorced, married, and have become a father of two.

John, Frank, Marty, Gunther, Dick, Herm, Todd, Romeo, and Andy are the coaches I remember. KC won the Super Ball the year I was born. I became a Chiefs fan when the Colts left Baltimore in the middle of the night in a snowstorm. F you Irsay.

I can honestly say, my interest in the NFL is almost nil. I got the Sunday Ticket for Free this year from DirecTV so I might watch a few more games this season. Sundays in my house are for going to church, relaxing, eating a good meal, and preparing for the week.

My oldest boy plays fall baseball and his games are infinitely more entertaining than the NFL. I'll watch those on Sundays.

Did you know they almost moved the team to Phoenix?

[DaFace]

Well, I suspected I wasn't alone in my frustration, but I'm a bit surprised to see HOW negative everyone is. Our AVERAGE response is right around a 3 right now.

The crazy thing to me is that I'm still as addicted to ChiefsPlanet as ever - I just come here for all the non-Chiefs stuff. :)

[millz]

Over the past few years, I've gotten more enjoyment out of saturday college football than I have with the NFL.

I'm too smart and see past the BS regarding the NFL. the dumb rules and flags, the obvious rigging and corruption of the sport, the parody and lame ass story lines. I've grown quite sick of it but I still continue to watch because in my heart, I love the NFL but there's no doubt in my mind that it's changed for the worse and not for the better.

Maybe it's just me but last week DID NOT FEEL LIKE WEEK 1. I got up early as I usually do, and that excited christmas morning type feel I usually get with NFL week 1, did not register at all. Maybe I'm getting older and wiser and just sick of the NFL but it just felt like the games were very boring and not entertaining at all, the constant commercials kill it and the games feel shorter and soul less.

I won't even get started on KC vs TENN but it was evident that KC was not trying at all. I truly believe we were gifted that 9-0 season and a playoff run because of the horrible Pioli season and belcher death.

Another note, why every season is there always a controversy issue ( Ray rice, miami dolphins locker room, bounty gate, etc ) the league has turned into CNN and I'm so fucking sick of the constant soap operas and drama. They talk more about that shit then the fucking games being played.

[Nzoner]

Goodell would just say they never received it

Nice :thumb:

[blaise]

Houston media claiming Adrian Peterson was indicted for harm to a child.

[OldSchool]

Even if the team sucks, I am still interested in the NFL because I like watching players develop on the team.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Even if the team sucks, I am still interested in the NFL because I like watching players develop on the team.

Or not developing. Or outright sucking!

[Easy 6]

Mark Cuban was right, the NFL is headed for a fall... it wont happen overnight, his ten year prediction is probably dead on.

The stadium revenues and tv viewership will just gradually begin to fade, they're strangling the goose that laid the golden egg.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mark Cuban was right, the NFL is headed for a fall... it wont happen overnight, his ten year prediction is probably dead on.

The stadium revenues and tv viewership will just gradually begin to fade, they're strangling the goose that laid the golden egg.

Yep. 10 years was my gut feeling. The game will be damned near unwatchable.

[Ebolapox]

Mark Cuban was right, the NFL is headed for a fall... it wont happen overnight, his ten year prediction is probably dead on.

The stadium revenues and tv viewership will just gradually begin to fade, they're strangling the goose that laid the golden egg.

mark cuban is a very intelligent businessman, though anyone with any foresight at all saw this coming.

[Easy 6]

Yep. 10 years was my gut feeling. The game will be damned near unwatchable.

Last night was a real eye opener, I've seen MORE bad calls in games past... but cant remember calls that were just so awful on an individual basis, the kind of calls that totally kill the spirit of the game.

No helmet to the chest?

No shoulder to shoulder?

No elbow to the head or shoulder?

Informed fans are going to eventually give up on this game and the fly by nighters the NFL is courting wont be there for them consistently enough to make up for our loss.

[Discuss Thrower]

mark cuban is a very intelligent businessman, though anyone with any foresight at all saw this coming.

10 years from unemployment will be at 48% or higher due to automation so it's pretty irrelevant.

Better get in good with a multimillionaire so you have a spot in our future feudal society.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Last night was a real eye opener, I've seen MORE bad calls in games past... but cant remember calls that were just so awful on an individual basis, the kind of calls that totally kill the spirit of the game.

No helmet to the chest?

No shoulder to shoulder?

No elbow to the head or shoulder?

Informed fans are going to eventually give up on this game and the fly by nighters the NFL is courting wont be there for them consistently enough to make up for our loss.

I'm telling you:

If Goodell and/or his ilk stays in charge; flags and shorts are on the way.

[Easy 6]

I'm telling you:

If Goodell and/or his ilk stays in charge; flags and shorts are on the way.

Mike Carey in his Urkel voice says... "that was an EXCELLENT call!!!"

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Mike Carey in his Urkel voice says... "that was an EXCELLENT call!!!"

LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

I'm always more interested in College Football than I am the NFL but this year I might even be more interested in High School Football than the NFL. The NFL sucks right now, it's all about the money and they don't even try to hide it.
Hell yeah. Friday night lights. My son is a Sr. 5 for 66 and a TD last week. 5 solo tackles and 5 assisted.

Tonight another big game. Can not wait.

[Buehler445]

Well, I suspected I wasn't alone in my frustration, but I'm a bit surprised to see HOW negative everyone is. Our AVERAGE response is right around a 3 right now.

The crazy thing to me is that I'm still as addicted to ChiefsPlanet as ever - I just come here for all the non-Chiefs stuff. :)

Ain't that some shit? I believe it was you that said I should "check it out." 8 trillion hours later. I have to say. Thanks. But damn you.

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

In its attempt to grow by catering to fantasy enthusiasts and bright, flashy scoreboard changes, the NFL has become football for people who don't like football.

This sums up the OP and the root of the ChiefsPlanet continental divide perfectly, IMHO. Possibly the most memorable post you have made since the dog-poo selfie.

You are so sexy right now in a sorter kind of way.

Dinny

[SAUTO]

This sums up the OP and the root of the ChiefsPlanet continental divide perfectly, IMHO. Possibly the most memorable post you have made since the dog-poo selfie.

You are so sexy right now in a sorter kind of way.

Dinny

This is why I love dinny so fucking much.


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[BlackOp]

Another part of the turn off is how much they charge to see a game....you have to buy seat licenses for season tickets? Charging $25 to park? $8 a beer...this is on top of the enormous money they make on broadcasting deals. I'm amazed stadiums are still full these days with the invention of 1080p flat-screens. The next generations are going to be..."meh, this is lame and a rip-off". You can only hype a sport so much..

All the private boxes are corporate cells.....

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

This is why I love dinny so ****ing much.


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That bacon explosion damn near killed me.

EYE partied at SAUTO'S and lived. It's not the same thing as eating the pink chicken at the T&H. Trust me.

Dinny

[Hydrae]

Mike Carey in his Urkel voice says... "that was an EXCELLENT call!!!"

He was right which shows that the problem is not the refs, it is the rules that they must enforce.

[Rain Man]

The league is letting Welker play despite being suspended. That pretty much says it all.

[Rams Fan]

Oddly enough, it's risen. Even with the shit the Rams have gone through. There's not one thing I would trade a Rams home ticket on Sunday for. I went to a fucking week 17 home game, for fucks sake, when the team was 2-13 and the 3rd QB was starting.

[Easy 6]

He was right which shows that the problem is not the refs, it is the rules that they must enforce.

You're right of course, by the letter of the law he was correct... I guess.

That still doesnt help explain the loss of game quality though, slamming Urkel is just a convenient haha.

[DaFace]

Ain't that some shit? I believe it was you that said I should "check it out." 8 trillion hours later. I have to say. Thanks. But damn you.

I like to think that I made your life just a little less productive. You're welcome. :D

[keg in kc]

I actually prefer high scoring games to defensive games, so the rule changes don't bother me at all, although I do think things are weighted too far to the offenses. But it's very, very hard for me to maintain interest when my team is so bad. It's like I get hyped for the season, then they kill me in week 1. And then I just don't care anymore.

[Easy 6]

... then they kill me in week 1. And then I just don't care anymore.

Impossible to disagree with this.