Would anything actually make you walk away from the Chiefs?

[BossChief]

This will be a somewhat long read, so get some snacks and a drink.

I've been thinking about this lately for the first time in my life and have mentioned it in passing a couple times.

I've sat through them trading for backups from other teams my whole life (I'm 37) and always coming up short. I've driven 10-12 hours (round trip) at least 40 times, bought season tickets in 3 years, spent thousands going to training camp almost every year, spend at least an hour a day chatting about the team, probably dropped 8k on single game tickets everywhere in the Stadium from the worst seats in the house (for the 2003 Indy playoff game where that was all I could afford, but wasn't gonna miss it for anything) to literally the best seats in the house (club level fifth row, the first 4 rows are uncovered, the fifth row is the best...basically Julius Ceasar seats) , thousands on gas, thousands on hotels, bought the jersey of almost every first round pick of the team (until Tyson Jackson broke that streak) spent thousands on ST...you get the point.

I've been a loyal "true fan" for my whole life.

I guess I'm just not sure how much more gas is left in the tank.

Each time they have traded/signed a backup from somewhere else, they discredit themselves from being a team that truly wants to "win it all".

Deberg
Jaworski
Vlassic
Bono
Gannon
Montana (at his age health for a first rounder)
Grbac
Moon
Green
Huard
Croyle
Thigpen
Cassel
Orton
Palko
Quinn
Daniel
Smith

Let's get down to it.

The next name on that list needs to be a guy we select high in the draft and develop into the teams starter. I don't even care who it is. Cook, Hackenburg, Goff, Jones, Hogan, Brissett...don't care who they select...but they need to draft a premium QB prospect in the upcoming draft and develop him or I think I'm gonna walk away from the team until they get real about the most important position in pro sports.

They trade for another POS backup? They hand the keys over to Daniel? They sign some garbage "project they can coach up" QB? There are better things to do with my time/money.

The ONLY guy I'd be ok with signing would be Drew Brees and even then, I want them to draft a QB in the first 2 rounds to groom to be the future starter. Anything less is unacceptable.

Dalton
Bridgewater
Carr
Rodgers
Flacco
Wilson

All guys that weren't good enough for us to draft/develop? The Chiefs were dead wrong to think that and they need to roll the dice this time.

My question to you guys is this....have you had similar thoughts recently?

Most of us here love the sport and this team, specifically, and I'm wondering if I'm the only one thinking this...

Discuss.

[jd1020]

Losing interest in football in general. I already follow the team less than I did a few years ago, partially because of the Chiefs model of building a team and partially because the NFL is just getting ridiculous with rules.

[KC_Lee]

I will quote myself from March 14th, 2013.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=9499561&postcount=59

Just tired, as a fan of this team, of constantly watching the same crap over and over. Yeah Alex Smith could be a servicable QB, I bet he wins (based on the last place schedule) at least 9 games his first season.

One QB bust 30 years ago and KC will not draft a QB in the first round. But we keep picking DL (both DT & DE) in the 1st round over and over (Sims, Dorsey, Jackson, Poe) and they either bust or do not live up to thier draft position. But by God let's clamor for another DL in the 1st again. Or better yet, let's draft a OT in the 1st.

We are stuck, baring an injury, with Alex Smith for at least 3 years. During this time the fan base will buy more tickets and merchandise and the parking lot will be filled again. It will be just like 1990's all over again. Clark will be happy, some fans will be happy and the Chiefs will still be in the same postition they are now, a good team and not a great team which is held back by the lack of play from the QB.

I'll root for them, just not going to drink the Kool Aid. Until this team gets serious in drafting and developing a starting QB of its own and gives up picking up other team's scraps I'm done being a die hard fan.

If KC is picking in the top 10 again and does not draft a QB in the first round I may just be done with this team. I cannot root for a team that keeps bringing in scrubs, brokedicks, and JAG after JAG at the most important position of an NFL team.

[RunKC]

It would suck to completely give up but at this point in time I've just failed to give a shit. Clark not wanting to get rid of Pioli has really left a terrible taste in my mouth. It screams apathy and incompetence and that will never change.

Drafting a first round QB will definitely make me happy, and I would love to see us take a chance on a QB, but Clark needs to clean house with most of this coaching staff or force fat Andy to give up playcalling.

Going through another new coach without drafting a QB high will seal their fate for me. That would close the door on so many fans and accomplish apathy.

[luv]

No.

[sd4chiefs]

My question to you guys is this....have you had similar thoughts recently?

Yes.

Most of us here love the sport and this team, specifically, and I'm wondering if I'm the only one thinking this...

No.

[siberian khatru]

I seriously thought about quitting the Royals about 10 years ago, but just couldn't do it. They're in my DNA. So no, I can't quit the Chiefs.

But I'm seriously considering letting my Sunday Ticket lapse next year because I don't feel the need to watch the Chiefs' every move (plus, like others, I'm kinda sliding on the NFL as a whole -- I'm not even playing fantasy this year for the first time in eons, so there's another reason not to have Sunday Ticket).

I'm discovering there's other things I like doing with my time, that don't cause me frustration. I already don't get too up or down when they win or lose, so why monopolize my time if there's something better to do? I'll still follow the team, but I don't think I'll schedule my Sundays around them anymore.

If they actually win a playoff game, they'll probably draw me back in.

[Bob Dole]

Bob Dole is about as done as he will probably get. This team is so bad, Bob Dole did not wear a Delaney jersey on Sunday for the first time in a decade. It felt insulting to Joe's memory to suit up for another shitfest.

[Katipan]

Gross, negligent cheating.

Or $5,000.

[Ming the Merciless]

If they moved to a different city or possibly changed names...


That' about it. They've shit on my heart for 25 years so there's nothing they could do as the kc chiefs to make my love stop.

They'd have to literally not be the kc chiefs

[Strongside]

Become apathetic? Yes

Completely walk away? No

I'm not renewing my ST's next year...have had them for nearly 10 years now. I can't see myself coming back any time soon. The product does not even come close to justifying the cost. Tired of watching a team like Denver win consistently with different coaches and players every other year. That's what happens when your organization is committed to winning from top to bottom, and not just putting asses in the seats.

[ptlyon]

If they moved

[loochy]

some kind of sandusky thing would

[siberian khatru]

some kind of sandusky thing would

That's what the Chiefs have done to us.

[bdj23]

I'm down to being a minimal effort fan. I.e. they only effort I'm putting into the Chiefs is turning on my TV.

This team doesn't deserve this fanbase

[GloryDayz]

Losing interest in football in general. I already follow the team less than I did a few years ago, partially because of the Chiefs model of building a team and partially because the NFL is just getting ridiculous with rules.

I think many of us have that as an added irritant on top of our team's broken-record woes.

So I'll always be a fan, hell I might take my kid to a game or two once golfing isn't a realistic option and if the price is right enough, but they'll always be my team. Heck, I'll even keep booking 7:20 (or first-light) tee time in hopes of getting home early enough to watch them bumble away another win.

But I'm with you. And it's not just the QBs.. It's the failed system and ownership that allow for the QB to be such a visible catastrophe. The Hunts own this problem lock, stock, and barrel; they just know there are enough people out there who will give them a pass because "they don't play" to keep themselves rolling in the NFL money and living the sweet life afforded by being an NFL owner. Hell, not living here makes it all the easier to just keep making the same mistakes. Other than a few boos that perplex them on Sundays, they surround themselves with their bourgeoisie nut-hugging friends and supporters, so they're pretty insulated from reality. In a picture, I see the Hunts as the queen, and their friends willing to be ugly to "keep their heads" (and a friendship going with an NFL owner)..

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0f2fefbe918380c6b98f906bd99080d5/tumblr_mhhidej6ka1rknrf9o1_500.gif

[The Franchise]

If they don't draft a QB in the first two rounds this year......the Sunday ticket goes. I will not watch another year of Smith with no hope behind him. And no....Murray is not hope.

[ottawa_chiefs_fan]

Team in Toronto.

[bobbymitch]

Been there done that. Look, I'm 69 and been following and supporting the team since they moved to KC. I was in the south Pacific when they won their only Super Bowl, so I missed that highlight.

My Dad had 6 tickets and royally got screwed when they moved to Arrowhead, but over time and the really, really lean years eventually moved to section 118. We wound up keeping 2 seats and went just about every weekend. We even "won" the Super Bowl lottery had everything ready to go. All they had to do is beat Buffalo. You all feel let down now? Yeah, try that let down.

Yes, we did receive the "loyalty reward" of the 35-year season ticket holder patches and pins. Patches and pins for 35-years of going to the games and supporting the team? That's all you could think of? Whoo-hoo!

The over time, prices continued to rise, the teams stumbling to mediocrity continued and they wanted more money. When I retired and got my renewal, I realized that we could no longer afford to go any more.

My wife and I only enjoy football so this time of year is great for us. We will continue to watch the Chiefs play, but our Sundays are no longer planned around the games and at times, may just go outside and watch the world go by instead of watching the games as we once did.

Unlike some, we still have all of our old Chiefs gear and flags, but lately, they have just been left hanging in the closet and the red Fridays no longer mean much anymore.

[Buns]

I'm close to giving up on the current incarnation of the Chiefs, but I don't see that happening, too homer strong. It would take the Chiefs turning on America or something pure evil, for me to quit.

[O.city]

They don't seem to give a shit on the field, I don't give a shit about them.

But no, I'll always be a fan, but at this point, I'm not going out of my way to do much about it.

Seems my interest for football as a whole has lessened, similar to some in the thread. I don't watch much college football anymore, Saturdays are days with the kiddos and Sundays are kinda meh too.

[Molitoth]

Cassel/Pioli and then the trade for Alex Smith pretty much sealed the deal.

I don't watch games in full, or even care.

I will watch a bit and enjoy laughing at the embarrassment, but this org does not effect me emotionally anymore.

[seclark]

nope.

but i aint losing any sleep over their shittiness either. been there, done that.
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[the Talking Can]

Huard
Croyle
Thigpen
Cassel
Orton
Palko
Quinn
Daniel
Smith



ever see a more depressing list in your life?

....but drafting a qb is risky

[BigMeatballDave]

Relocating would do it.

[Pablo]

Nah, I'll always watch and cheer for them.

I vote with my money. Don't waste a cent on these fuck heads. Had season tickets for the glorious two year period of 2011-2012. Decided after that season that I won't spend any more money on these fucking losers until they win a playoff game at least.

I really don't know how these long distance STH and die hards do it year in and year out.

Sure, tailgating and hanging out with your friends is fun. You can do that in your backyard though and not blow your cash on a shit product that's only going to piss you off.

[BossChief]

ever see a more depressing list in your life?

....but drafting a qb is risky

Every single one of them is LITERALLY worse than a complete bust.

It's sad that this team -historically- has valued every position over QB in the draft.

The rest of the world UNANIMOUSLY sees the NFL as a QB league...but the Chiefs value the position toward to bottom of the list.

[DaFace]

If the team moved, and especially if they weren't the "Chiefs" anymore, I'd probably walk away. Short of that though, it's pretty firmly ingrained into my psyche.

[Bowser]

I became a Chiefs fan for real when Derrick Thomas came here, and then a die hard around the time Dave Kreig started for us (decided I hated Elway and the Broncos after the game he brought them back in Denver when we were up 19-6 with three minutes to go in the 4th quarter, but that's another thread, lol). The Chiefs were a force through the 90's, and I always felt we were just a couple of crap plays away from winning it all. The first dent in my fandom armor is when Marty put Grbac in for the playoff game after he'd missed half the season and Gannon was playing so well. The second dent came in the playoffs again against the Colts in 2003 and that god awful G-Rob defense that couldn't force just a single punt. The third came during the Herm years when I started looking at the team and trying to figure out what the fuck they were thinking with the QB position and roster moves in general. The moment that broke me, that made me decide to stop throwing my money their way via season tickets and overpriced food and beer at the stadium was the playoff game against the Ravens. I saw and understood that the Chiefs, especially that year, had become nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and we were all lying to ourselves about who they were and what their chances really were to be something special. The playoff loss to the Colts in 2013 was just more fuel to that fire.

I don't think I'll ever COMPLETELY walk away from the Chiefs, but if they want my money back, they're going to have to prove that they can be a legit playoff contender year in and year out, and they are going to have to not only draft a QB in round 1, but groom him into a guy that will lead them and win with them for years to come. Frankly the way things are going, I'm not sure I'll ever see that. In the meantime, the family and I will continue taking Caribbean vacations with the money I was giving to 1 Arrowhead Drive until they pull their heads out and get it right.

[Pablo]

I do wish it was acceptable for an adult to get one freebie in your life where you can just drop a team and pick up another. Only once and only one team though. That's not how being a sports fan works, but it would be great to be able to drop this bag of dog shit and go buy a Packers jersey or something and not have any of your friends or family talk shit on you.

[MTG#10]

Im pretty much done. I haven't missed a game in 20 years but didn't watch a minute of the Bears game. I even drove an hour and a half to Clinton, MO to watch the Chiefs/Dolphins rescheduled (hurricane) Friday night game many years ago at a shitty sports bar because it wasn't aired in Springfield out of respect for the local high school teams. I wont watch another game until Smith is gone.

And since I couldn't give a shit less about any other team the NFL is dead to me.

[Bewbies]

I'll always be a fan, so unless football disappeared or KC moved and changed names, I don't see that changing.

However, I can see other sports replacing football as my favorite. The NFL has really hurt their sport, and the Chiefs aren't helping that be overcome.

[MTG#10]

I'll always be a fan, so unless football disappeared or KC moved and changed names, I don't see that changing.

However, I can see other sports replacing football as my favorite. The NFL has really hurt their sport, and the Chiefs aren't helping that be overcome.

This has already happened to me. When I was a kid/teenager baseball was my first love. Then after about 20 years of Royals suckage I started hating the sport and football became #1. Now the Chiefs long shitty drought + the Royals success have made me go back to loving baseball again.

[BossChief]

I became a Chiefs fan for real when Derrick Thomas came here, and then a die hard around the time Dave Kreig started for us (decided I hated Elway and the Broncos after the game he brought them back in Denver when we were up 19-6 with three minutes to go in the 4th quarter, but that's another thread, lol). The Chiefs were a force through the 90's, and I always felt we were just a couple of crap plays away from winning it all. The first dent in my fandom armor is when Marty put Grbac in for the playoff game after he'd missed half the season and Gannon was playing so well. The second dent came in the playoffs again against the Colts in 2003 and that god awful G-Rob defense that couldn't force just a single punt. The third came during the Herm years when I started looking at the team and trying to figure out what the **** they were thinking with the QB position and roster moves in general. The moment that broke me, that made me decide to stop throwing my money their way via season tickets and overpriced food and beer at the stadium was the playoff game against the Ravens. I saw and understood that the Chiefs, especially that year, had become nothing more than smoke and mirrors, and we were all lying to ourselves about who they were and what their chances really were to be something special. The playoff loss to the Colts in 2013 was just more fuel to that fire.

I don't think I'll ever COMPLETELY walk away from the Chiefs, but if they want my money back, they're going to have to prove that they can be a legit playoff contender year in and year out, and they are going to have to not only draft a QB in round 1, but groom him into a guy that will lead them and win with them for years to come. Frankly the way things are going, I'm not sure I'll ever see that. In the meantime, the family and I will continue taking Caribbean vacations with the money I was giving to 1 Arrowhead Drive until they pull their heads out and get it right.

In 2011, I went out and bought a brand new Nissan Frontier 4x4 crew cab with all the bells and whistles with money I probably would have given to the Chiefs if they weren't a bed shitter.

[Red Dawg]

No walking away for me. Can't help but be a fan even though they never get it right with the one position that changes a franchise.

[Abba-Dabba]

I lost any caring interest in the Chiefs a long time ago. And I've been better for it. It is a mixture of many things wrong with the Chiefs and not one of them I could rank from top to bottom as a reason why. Just don't give a damn about them to even put that much thought into it. Fuck em.

[gblowfish]

I walk away out to my car in the Arrowhead parking lot. After games like Denver and Chicago, it's like my own little Bataan Death March....

[Earthling]

Kinda like a wayward kid that you are always hoping will straighten up and fly right. You can kick 'em out of the house but you still love 'em. I don't think I could ever just walk away from this shitty franchise...damnit.

[HemiEd]

If they moved to a different city or possibly changed names...


That' about it. They've shit on my heart for 25 years so there's nothing they could do as the kc chiefs to make my love stop.

They'd have to literally not be the kc chiefs

Pretty much this, a move would be my only final trigger.

I am much healthier now that I have realized they will never do what it takes to be a championship caliber team again by drafting and developing a QB of their own.

I jumped on the "bandwagon" when they actually were the best team in football in 69-70.

I take the losses and failures in stride now and don't let it bother me much. When they were up by 4 tds against Indy in the playoffs, I told my wife they were going to lose.

I truly feel that Andy Reid is the worst at managing the actual game of any coach in their history.

[alnorth]

The only thing that would make me swear off the Chiefs would be something involving a very major outside event like a widespread league-wide game-fixing scandal, or some kind of unthinkable horrifying series of crimes by the owner/executives.

I didn't give up on the Royals, so I can't imagine any amount of incompetence by the GM or players that would make me turn in my fan card. I always reserve the right to watch fewer games.

[BossChief]

I'll always be a fan, so unless football disappeared or KC moved and changed names, I don't see that changing.

However, I can see other sports replacing football as my favorite. The NFL has really hurt their sport, and the Chiefs aren't helping that be overcome.

On some things, I hold grudges.

Baseball lost me almost completely when they went on strike when Griffey was close to on pace to break the home run record (he was my favorite player ever) and I walked away when the Dodgers traded Piazza. Those 2 moves showed me that the business of baseball was more important than anything else, including the fans. I never came back and still haven't almost 20 years later. I was a Dodger fan since birth (as was Mike Piazza) and followed Griffey since college, hoping he would end up a dodger somehow and just continued to follow him in Seattle. He was probably the most naturally talented player I ever saw and his body never showed signs of steroid use.

Basketball lost me almost completely when the uneducated thugs took over the league and the final nail went in that coffin when Jerry Buss died. I never really had love for anything but the Lakers in basketball and Buss dying signaled the end of them being a team that only cared about winning it all every year.

I'd have to get back into MMA or take up Hockey if I walk away from the Chiefs.

[jimidollar]

The game against Denver is the last game I watched. I just check the score online and laugh at them on CP. However, I'll be interested again once the new coach and qb are in place.

[Discuss Thrower]

The league will fold eventually or the rules will change so much that the game is two hand touch. I've come to terms with the fact KC will never win a superbowl before this happens.

It's all just for morbid curiosity to see what spectacular ways they fuck up anymore. God knows there's no enjoyment to watching for competitive play. And Arrowhead is a joke anymore. It's Edward Jones Dome West IMHO.

[alpha_omega]

Not unless they moved.

[ModSocks]

Count me in the "slowly fading away" camp. I mean, I'll always be a fan, but im losing interest by the season.

10 Years ago i had my "lucky" Chiefs apparel. I had a morning routine, that, if broken, would cause the Chiefs to lose. I HAD to have NFL Sunday Ticket....i always had beer and snacks ready. I would cuss at the T.V and cheer like a maniac.

Today....Im content watching a stream on my computer. No lucky Chiefs gear....no beer...no snacks...no maniac cheering....always a little bit of cussing though.

It could change if the Chiefs got a QB though....

[Pablo]

The league will fold eventually or the rules will change so much that the game is two hand touch. I've come to terms with the fact KC will never win a superbowl before this happens.

It's all just for morbid curiosity to see what spectacular ways they fuck up anymore. God knows there's no enjoyment to watching for competitive play. And Arrowhead is a joke anymore. It's Edward Jones Dome West IMHO.Ouch. You really know how to cut a fan deep. Drop a STL comparison and I'm insta-depressed.

Haven't been to a game in three years. It can't be THAT bad can it?

[morphius]

Walk away, not likely, treat them like the 90's Royals, well, that could be closer than not. I think I've reached the point where I will DVR the game and just watch leisurely on Sunday while I do stuff around the house. There are just so many things about the way they play, and the way the rules are that just take the fun out of being a fan.

[Eleazar]

Not permanently. I will take the rest of the season off if they obviously are going nowhere. I took the Romeo era off and most of the Herm era. Not worth letting an inept team ruin your day.

[RunKC]

The league will fold eventually or the rules will change so much that the game is two hand touch. I've come to terms with the fact KC will never win a superbowl before this happens.

It's all just for morbid curiosity to see what spectacular ways they **** up anymore. God knows there's no enjoyment to watching for competitive play. And Arrowhead is a joke anymore. It's Edward Jones Dome West IMHO.

Edward Jones Dome West?

Arrowhead isn't what it was in the 90's but good god can you put some negative extreme hyperbole on the Chiefs.

Wow

[Eleazar]

It's not just the Chiefs though. The NFL's product is going downhill and I think we all see it.

[Pablo]

It's not just the Chiefs though. The NFL's product is going downhill and I think we all see it.But if we were the best team in the NFL right now, nobody would be bitching about being the best representative of a shit product.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

They were about to draft that QB two years ago and Cleveland jumped us because they knew Reid was going to get him. Afte that we drafted Murray. He's the QB we have been waiting for. Smith just needs to get out of his way.

Same as Bledsoe / Brady. If Bledsoe hadn't got hurt then Brady may have never been. Our franchise QB is already on the roster guys.

[BossChief]

Count me in the "slowly fading away" camp. I mean, I'll always be a fan, but im losing interest by the season.

10 Years ago i had my "lucky" Chiefs apparel. I had a morning routine, that, if broken, would cause the Chiefs to lose. I HAD to have NFL Sunday Ticket....i always had beer and snacks ready. I would cuss at the T.V and cheer like a maniac.

Today....Im content watching a stream on my computer. No lucky Chiefs gear....no beer...no snacks...no maniac cheering....always a little bit of cussing though.

It could change if the Chiefs got a QB though....

That's pretty much me, too.

I used to not be able to sit down during a game. I would literally spend almost all of my emotional energy during the course of the game to the point I would need to take a nap after the game. Literally.

I always had my game day gear ready the night before...id have food marinating the night before and I'd have 5-6 friends over to watch the games every Sunday. If I was staying home, I'd get up way early to get the grill fired up to start smoking and slow cooking ribs...or whatever the game menu entailed...Another 30 or so buddies of mine from my ballin days in other states would be texting throughout the game with smack talk and whatnot.

Now, I'm more of a family man and still watch the games with my son and daughter, but it's just not the same. There is very little emotion involved.

The Houston game gave me a little shot in the arm...but the Denver ending took the rest of the wind out of my sails.

I just can't get excited for games with Matt Cassel and Alex Smith level guys starting at QB for us.

I just can't.

They NEED to DRAFT a really talented QB to lead this franchise IF THEY WANT TO GET THAT EMOTION BACK.

[Bowser]

That's the other thing - even if I get way more invested as a fan once again, I'll never let myself become that overly emotional fan that if they lose a hearbreaker it will ruin my next two or three days. So glad to let go of that silliness.

[loochy]

That's what the Chiefs have done to us.

kind of - except we are adults and we keep asking for more

[Rausch]

I took off to watch the games with my dad.

Afterwards we're both pissed off and the day pretty much ends.

I'm done taking off for the Chiefs (meaning I won't be watching.)

I've used most of my vac/comp for his condition and the extra was meant for us to enjoy on sunday. I'll be cancelling those sundays off...

[fan4ever]

This is a bit off topic, but as I watching the Royals last night come from behind and win that huge game I was thinking "When was the last time we saw the Chiefs do that?" Whenever we're in a close contest and a score would win us the game in the closing moments I NEVER think they'll do it...and they never do. Can't remember the last time we pulled out a big game like the Royals did last night.

[morphius]

This is a bit off topic, but as I watching the Royals last night come from behind and win that huge game I was thinking "When was the last time we saw the Chiefs do that?" Whenever we're in a close contest and a score would win us the game in the closing moments I NEVER think they'll do it...and they never do. Can't remember the last time we pulled out a big game like the Royals did last night.

They have won some at the end of games, but since we have had 1 decent year in the playoffs in my lifetime, it is hard to compare.

[Molitoth]

They were about to draft that QB two years ago and Cleveland jumped us because they knew Reid was going to get him. Afte that we drafted Murray. He's the QB we have been waiting for. Smith just needs to get out of his way.

Same as Bledsoe / Brady. If Bledsoe hadn't got hurt then Brady may have never been. Our franchise QB is already on the roster guys.

Your posts are usually pretty stupid, but you have this right.

Yes, see what Daniel/Murray has.... and if they aren't improving game by game, then they need gone. You should be able to tell pretty quick using the eye test whether or not a QB is a gamer or a complete fucking pussy like Huard/Cassel/AlexSmith.

[Rausch]

They have won some at the end of games, but since we have had 1 decent year in the playoffs in my lifetime, it is hard to compare.

Last year the Royals won more playoff games than the Chiefs have in their entire history.

That says it all...

[el borracho]

Like the OP, I was a guy that watched literally every second of Chiefs football for decades. Hung on to see the improbable comebacks of the Grbac/Rison bomb; the Dwayne Rudd helmet toss; Eddie Kennison behind the safety to end the game.

The trade for Smith killed all of that for me and I have not watched a single game since that trade became official. The Chiefs are still my team and I will still read about them but I will not waste my time watching until they get serious about the most important position in sports.

[Rausch]

I've missed a game or two, here or there, over the last 30 years but this will be the first year I just don't care.

Not watching unless they're on the road and I have a FanDuel player going against them (which will now be every other fucking week for the rest of the season...)

[dj56dt58]

ever see a more depressing list in your life?

....but drafting a qb is risky

Other than Orton huard was the best Qb on that list and its not even close

[GloryDayz]

ever see a more depressing list in your life?

....but drafting a qb is risky

Perhaps not as depressing since some of these guys weren't terrible, but wow!

Da Browns:

2015 Josh McCown (4) / Johnny Manziel (1)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
1996-1998 Vacant
1995 Vinny Testaverde (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1994 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Mark Rypien (3)
1993 Bernie Kosar (7) / Vinny Testaverde (6) / Todd Philcox (3)

[Bearcat]

It's entertainment. Fan loyalty is dumb, they want your business and sure as hell don't do a whole lot make sure they have it.

If you mean walk away like not be a Chiefs fan at all anymore, maybe... I'd have to move to another NFL city though. I'll never buy Sunday Ticket and there's no other point to be a fan of another team. I'd rather the Chiefs actually be good so I can attend live games and watch them every week, instead of catching games of another team from time to time and rarely seeing them live.

As far as following them... haven't been to a game since the opener in 2011, will sometimes have the game on in the background, or will flip back and forth from RedZone. Once they demand my attention, they'll have it.

Like many others though, my interest in the NFL as a whole isn't what it was ~10 years ago... mostly catch the more important games, but don't really make it a point to watch until mid-January once just about all the mediocre teams are finally out of it.

[jonzie04]

If the team moved, and especially if they weren't the "Chiefs" anymore, I'd probably walk away. Short of that though, it's pretty firmly ingrained into my psyche.

This, Especially is they weren't the Chiefs... I mean I'd try to love it, but I don't know if I could for very long. :(

[notorious]

**** em'

It's a game. My "Give a ****" has gone down steeply every year as I mature and grow older.

[BossChief]

They basically have to draft a QB this year, right?

Alex's salary next year is guaranteed (sorry for the puke smell.) and he's crap...Daniel is in the last year of his contract...Murray is here through 2017...so, they have to add another QB this upcoming offseason.

I know I've thought it was a lock they would draft one before, though....

[Discuss Thrower]

Edward Jones Dome West?

Arrowhead isn't what it was in the 90's but good god can you put some negative extreme hyperbole on the Chiefs.

Wow

Because it is. Sunday was almost 50% Bears fans. Let that sink in. A team that has been mediocre at best over the last nine years since their SB appearance.

Next Sunday will be even worse. Guarantee it'll be 50%+ Steelers fans with lots of empty seats.

How is that any different from St. Louis' situation?

[DaneMcCloud]

I've had the Sunday Ticket since 2003. Before that, I spent eleven years traipsing around Hollywood and the Valley looking for a place to watch the Chiefs and usually got stuck with a crappy 19" TV in a corner somewhere.

I've watched them in Toronto, San Francisco, Vancouver, Cabo San Lucas and Cancun. I've been to games in Oakland, Denver and New York City. I've seen all the ups and downs, live or in person, for as long as I can remember (which is about 45 years).

I've never cared less about this franchise than I do today.

I've said that I'll cancel the Sunday Ticket next year if the Chiefs don't make major changes this season and upcoming offseason but when it comes down to it, it's probably just anger. I'll end up getting it next year but if massive changes don't occur, I won't spend my Sundays watching Chiefs games. It'll be the Red Zone channel or one of the other channels.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have the choice of watching games that interest me as opposed to be stuck with whatever the network chooses as my weekly game(s).

But the Chiefs? Yeah, fuck Andy Reid, fuck John Dorsey, fuck Alex Smith and fuck the Clarks, right up the ass.

[LOCOChief]

Letting Indy hang 28 pts on us in the 2nd half a couple years ago already did me in. I watch em if I've got nothing else to do but really don't care either way. Been with them since 1975 until that game. Thank god for the Royals and Mizzou football.

[Rausch]

They basically have to draft a QB this year, right?

Alex's salary next year is guaranteed (sorry for the puke smell.) and he's crap...Daniel is in the last year of his contract...Murray is here through 2017...so, they have to add another QB this upcoming offseason.

I know I've thought it was a lock they would draft one before, though....

A new HC might cut/trade Smith, eat the cap hit in a big-space year, and move on in any 1 of a number of ways.

Smith is not, by any means, a lock to be here if we have a new HC...

[Discuss Thrower]

A new HC might cut/trade Smith, eat the cap hit in a big-space year, and move on in any 1 of a number of ways.

Smith is not, by any means, a lock to be here if we have a new HC...

There should be a sticky about what the Smith contract situation is according to OverTheCap:

Keep him for a $17.8MM cap number with remaining space prior to any other roster moves at $36.9MM for 2016, $53MM in 2017 and $83MM in 2018.

Cut him for $25MM with remaining space of $29MM in 2016, $70MM in 2017 and $104MM in 2018.

Post June 1 cut for $17.7MM number with $33MM remaining in space for 2016, $63MM in 2017 and $104MM in 2018.

[Bewbies]

They were about to draft that QB two years ago and Cleveland jumped us because they knew Reid was going to get him. Afte that we drafted Murray. He's the QB we have been waiting for. Smith just needs to get out of his way.

Same as Bledsoe / Brady. If Bledsoe hadn't got hurt then Brady may have never been. Our franchise QB is already on the roster guys.

The only people on earth dumb enough to think KC would draft a QB in the 1st all work in Cleveland. They fell for that trick twice. LMAO

[morphius]

Last year the Royals won more playoff games than the Chiefs have in their entire history.

That says it all...

With the win last night the Royals have more playoff wins in the last 2 years than every QB expect for Montana and Brady. I get the point though, the franchise has been historically terrible, and is consistent at it. The only thing I like about the franchise is that Clark has brought in the 2 highest candidates in the league to be the GM. While it might not have worked, it does show that he is at least trying.

[FlaChief58]

It's hard to say if I'd ever walk away completly, but after 40 years of watching this shit show every single year, I get more and more apethetic. I used to wear Chiefs Jerseys, shirts, hats, shorts and even socks pretty much every day. Now I may put on a shirt on gameday and fire up the stream in my man cave and quietly sit there while they embarrass themselves. Gone are the game day rituals like watching highlites, listening to 101 the fox's pregame, firing up the grill etc. I just sit there sipping a few beers and imagine what it would be like to be a fan of a real NFL franchise

[Bob Dole]

A new HC might cut/trade Smith, eat the cap hit in a big-space year, and move on in any 1 of a number of ways.

Smith is not, by any means, a lock to be here if we have a new HC...

It's good to have dreams.

[O.city]

There should be a sticky about what the Smith contract situation is according to OverTheCap:

Keep him for a $17.8MM cap number with remaining space prior to any other roster moves at $36.9MM for 2016, $53MM in 2017 and $83MM in 2018.

Cut him for $25MM with remaining space of $29MM in 2016, $70MM in 2017 and $104MM in 2018.

Post June 1 cut for $17.7MM number with $33MM remaining in space for 2016, $63MM in 2017 and $104MM in 2018.

If I'm reading that right, they can cut him but Clarks gonna have to write a big check to make him go away?

[ptlyon]

It's good to have dreams. We only have nightmares.

FYP

[siberian khatru]

Letting Indy hang 28 pts on us in the 2nd half a couple years ago already did me in.

It was 35 points.

If you're gonna resurrect the pain, GET IT RIGHT!

;):p

[the Talking Can]

Other than Orton huard was the best Qb on that list and its not even close

the only one obviously worse then smith, imo, was croyle

[Rasputin]

Nope cuz I know damned well that if I quit on them then they would win the Super Bowl out of spite.


It's not fun being in the loser column like we are and have not won a playoff game since the time of Fred Flinstone but I know if IF IF we ever draft a quarterback in the first round that's gonna be my Super Bowl..


It's got to get better one year but if they don't draft a QBotf 2016 draft I may take a year off of being a fan idk.


Just glad Royals are satisfying team & have that to go on for life support.


After Joe Montana I thought surely they would draft a quarterback but Matt Blundon is still the highest quarterback taken (2nd round) after Todd Blackledge. It's the Todd Blackledge curse. :(

[The Franchise]

Perhaps not as depressing since some of these guys weren't terrible, but wow!

Da Browns:

2015 Josh McCown (4) / Johnny Manziel (1)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
1996-1998 Vacant
1995 Vinny Testaverde (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1994 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Mark Rypien (3)
1993 Bernie Kosar (7) / Vinny Testaverde (6) / Todd Philcox (3)

At least they keep fucking trying.

[ptlyon]

Do you think if we sacrificed Todd Blackledge to the NFL gods we would then be able to draft a 1st round qb?

[Hootie]

Nah. But last week, it was blacked out because it was local ... so instead of going anywhere I watched Red Zone instead. 25 years of never missing a game and it's to that point where I just don't care to watch.

[Chief Roundup]

At least they keep ****ing trying.

This!
We just have to try it more than once. Then if it doesn't work out keep trying.

[FlaChief58]

It's the Todd Blackledge curse. :(

It's only a curse because the Chunts refuse to rectify it by drafting legit QB prospects high. Everyone on the planet can see that their moto of drafting fatties and bringing in other teams trash at the most important position is shit. Well, everyone except the chunts....

[hometeam]

im stuck with em.

Literally~

http://31.media.tumblr.com/412e63db8a8ed03bd85f76494744d042/tumblr_mho0rmcgr71qc8b1uo1_500.gif

[Prison Bitch]

Ohhhh yes it's true
I am happy to be stuck with you
And I can see
That you're happy to be stuck with me!

[Bugeater]

Don't think I'd ever feel right rooting for another team. But it's pretty easy to stop giving a shit about them.

[Fire Me Boy!]

I watch, even get ST. And I will next year, too, assuming DirecTV doesn't try to bend me over on it. But my GiveAShitOMeter® is broken. It was in major disrepair after the Pioli/Cassel years, but that playoff loss last time smashed it to bits. I don't get emotionally invested anymore.

[mr. tegu]

For me its more about the NFL in general becoming less and less appealing as a whole.

[Dave Lane]

Like the OP, I was a guy that watched literally every second of Chiefs football for decades. Hung on to see the improbable comebacks of the Grbac/Rison bomb; the Dwayne Rudd helmet toss; Eddie Kennison behind the safety to end the game.

The trade for Smith killed all of that for me and I have not watched a single game since that trade became official. The Chiefs are still my team and I will still read about them but I will not waste my time watching until they get serious about the most important position in sports.

I'm going to charge you rent if you don't get out of my head. Actually I do watch the games I just don't give a shit one way or the other.

[chop]

I have changed from a major fan that got excited to see them play. Reading everything I could find about them. Joining message boards so I could read other Chiefs comments about them. To now, ready to do something else with my time. If they are on TV I will watch unless they look terrible. I just don't get that excited about the Chiefs as much anymore. The Herman Edwards and Romeo Crennel years took it's toll on me.

[jonzie04]

At least they keep fucking trying.

Yep, even a blind squirrel finds a nut eventually if he keeps looking. They will find a franchise qb eventually. Shit the media thinks that they might draft another qb again already. I hope we start looking starting next year. :(

[chiefs1111]

Perhaps not as depressing since some of these guys weren't terrible, but wow!

Da Browns:

2015 Josh McCown (4) / Johnny Manziel (1)
2014 Brian Hoyer (13) / Johnny Manziel (2) / Connor Shaw (1)
2013 Jason Campbell (8) / Brandon Weeden (5) / Brian Hoyer (3)
2012 Brandon Weeden (15) / Thad Lewis (1)
2011 Colt McCoy (13) / Seneca Wallace (3)
2010 Colt McCoy (8) / Jake Delhomme (4) / Seneca Wallace (4)
2009 Brady Quinn (9) / Derek Anderson (7)
2008 Derek Anderson (9) / Brady Quinn (3) / Ken Dorsey (3) / Bruce Gradkowski (1)
2007 Derek Anderson (15) / Charlie Frye (1)
2006 Charlie Frye (13) / Derek Anderson (3)
2005 Trent Dilfer (11) / Charlie Frye (5)
2004 Jeff Garcia (10) / Kelly Holcomb (2) / Luke McCown (4)
2003 Kelly Holcomb (8) / Tim Couch (8)
2002 Tim Couch (14) / Kelly Holcomb (2)
2001 Tim Couch (16)
2000 Doug Pederson (8) / Tim Couch (7) / Spergon Wynn (1)
1999 Tim Couch (14) / Ty Detmer (2)
1996-1998 Vacant
1995 Vinny Testaverde (12) / Eric Zeier (4)
1994 Vinny Testaverde (13) / Mark Rypien (3)
1993 Bernie Kosar (7) / Vinny Testaverde (6) / Todd Philcox (3)

Wow the Browns have actually had Both McCown's start games for them :eek:

[Joshuabmayer]

I just turned 34 yesterday and that bears game just sealed it for me this year. I've been watching Chiefs games since I was 8 and after the years of craptastic 49'er QB and seeing how that game unfolded just completely pissed me off and I am done for this season.

Team was already bad with Charles and now without him it's just going to suck. I tried to be a fan of Smith but I can't excuse the crap he is now. I just gave up on him.

Reid needs to just be the cheerleader/coach for the team and let somebody else be OC and Sutton needs to either be fired or needs to be talked to and rearrange his ideas with this team. The D should be getting constant pressure and blitzing the hell out of people.

I'm done wasting my sundays until they either bench Smith or Andy let's somebody else call plays. I just can't deal with this crap show of a team.

My wife got me tickets to the Ravens vs Chiefs game on Dec 20th (we live in PA) I would normally be excited but all i said was thanks and put them away. (trying to sell them if I can) I just can't support this same crap over and over.

[chiefs1111]

I will always watch but I just don't get emotional anymore over the games.

[ChiliConCarnage]

If the team moved, and especially if they weren't the "Chiefs" anymore, I'd probably walk away. Short of that though, it's pretty firmly ingrained into my psyche.

This or finding out the games are rigged are about it for me.

I didn't switch teams from the Royals and they had one epic run of turdsville. At least, the Chiefs you think there is some small chance lol

[Sandy Vagina]

That's the other thing - even if I get way more invested as a fan once again, I'll never let myself become that overly emotional fan that if they lose a hearbreaker it will ruin my next two or three days. So glad to let go of that silliness.

Yep, this. an hour or two of disappointment, and then the easy realization that it's just a silly game. Life's too short for such bitterness or dejection.

[The Franchise]

Yep, this. an hour or two of disappointment, and then the easy realization that it's just a silly game. Life's too short for such bitterness or dejection.

You aren't a Chiefs fan. Your opinion on this discussion is like your life.....meaningless.

[BossChief]

Yep, this. an hour or two of disappointment, and then the easy realization that it's just a silly game. Life's too short for such bitterness or dejection.

STFU bitch.

Seriously, you aren't a fan of this team. You are a fan of the pussy we all hate that we shouldn't have ever traded for.

You are SERIOUSLY SPEAKING the absolute worst poster on this site.

Go back to a 49ers board.

You don't relate to any of us here and have no business posting in my thread.

[bevischief]

Drafting a QB in the 1st round. That means a seal has been broken to open the gates of hell.

[saphojunkie]

If Los Angeles gets a team before KC drafts a quarterback in the first round, I'm gone.

[Baby Lee]

STFU bitch.

Seriously, you aren't a fan of this team. You are a fan of the pussy we all hate that we shouldn't have ever traded for.

You are SERIOUSLY SPEAKING the absolute worst poster on this site.

Go back to a 49ers board.

You don't relate to any of us here and have no business posting in my thread.

Pssst, I can loan you a pad.

[Pablo]

Yep, this. an hour or two of disappointment, and then the easy realization that it's just a silly game. Life's too short for such bitterness or dejection.Get AIDS and die, cunt.

[DaneMcCloud]

The only thing I like about the franchise is that Clark has brought in the 2 highest candidates in the league to be the GM. While it might not have worked, it does show that he is at least trying.

That's not trying. That's "Oh, these guys are the best? Okay, I'll throw however much money is necessary at them and let them run the show".

[Rasputin]

If Los Angeles gets a team before KC drafts a quarterback in the first round, I'm gone.



Ha London may get a team before the Chiefs draft a quarterback in the first round.


Sit and spin on that for a while

[Sandy Vagina]

STFU bitch.

Seriously, you aren't a fan of this team. You are a fan of the pussy we all hate that we shouldn't have ever traded for.

You are SERIOUSLY SPEAKING the absolute worst poster on this site.

Go back to a 49ers board.

You don't relate to any of us here and have no business posting in my thread.

I could be mistaken, but I'm sensing some hostility.

[ClevelandBronco]

For me, brand loyalty makes no sense in the absence of company performance. I am loyal to Toyota and Apple as long as they continue to produce a product that I value. As soon as they stop doing that, I'll research and identify a better brand. I see no difference with products that are sports related.

[BossChief]

I could be mistaken, but I'm sensing some hostility.

Don't try to act like you're one of us.

You aren't.

And you never will be, no matter how much you want to be....what's wrong with you?

[Sully]

If they moved.

That's it. the only thing.

My level of passion and caring will wax and wane, and my anger or joy will change, but the Chiefs will always be my team, even with a never-ending parade of terrible decisions...

[Baby Lee]

Don't try to act like you're one of us.

You aren't.

And you never will be, no matter how much you want to be....what's wrong with you?

Does that make you a TrueFan?

[Dayze]

Losing interest in football in general. I already follow the team less than I did a few years ago, partially because of the Chiefs model of building a team and partially because the NFL is just getting ridiculous with rules.

this is me 100%.

[BossChief]

Does that make you a TrueFan?

I'm a true fan in every sense of the term except the way the team has handled the QB position. I'm still here, right?

It's like the Hunts lost a bet way back when and simply aren't allowed to draft a first round quarterback or something.

Like the coin flip that made LamR move his team to KC from Dallas...

[Sandy Vagina]

Don't try to act like you're one of us.

You aren't.

And you never will be, no matter how much you want to be....what's wrong with you?

My original post had nothing to do with the Chiefs specifically.. but as sports fans in general.

Yep, this. an hour or two of disappointment, and then the easy realization that it's just a silly game. Life's too short for such bitterness or dejection.

Now, say you are sorry. SAY IT !!!! :D

[BossChief]

My original post had nothing to do with the Chiefs specifically.. but as sports fans in general.



Now, say you are sorry. SAY IT !!!! :D

Bitch, please.

You aren't a real Chiefs fan. You are a bitch with no backbone.

[Sandy Vagina]

Bitch, please.

You aren't a real Chiefs fan. You are a bitch with no backbone.

says the tough guy on the internet. Oooh... you so tough.

[Baby Lee]

I'm a true fan in every sense of the term except the way the team has handled the QB position. I'm still here, right?

It's like the Hunts lost a bet way back when and simply aren't allowed to draft a first round quarterback or something.

Like the coin flip that made LamR move his team to KC from Dallas...

Outside Flacco and Rodgers, there wasn't anyone at the time where you said 'there it was. There went our big chance' unless you were retarded for Geno, or Quinn.

[KCTitus]

If the team moved to another city, I'd probably really lose interest. Im somewhat apathetic about them now, and have over the last 4-5 years been less and less interested in watching their games.

I'll probably remain a fan though, until this league folds.

[ClevelandBronco]

I invest about as much personal pride in Denver Mattress as I do in the Denver Broncos.

[Sully]

Sunday was a rough day for me. Went to the game, which was a gut punch (but not as much as it used to be), came home, watched the Royals lose. I was down.


Then on Monday, it was all put in perspective...

A man at our church lost his wife 6 months ago to cancer after a long battle. Within a month, his mother died. Monday night, his son was on a motorcycle and was hit and killed instantly. I get so angry, and sad, and melancholy about the Chiefs, and yet on Monday, i found myself in a position where I couldn't imagine the pain upon pain being heaped on this poor guy.

The Chiefs fuck up.. a lot. i spend a lot of money watching them fuck up. But you know, I look forward to the show every season and every week. i have a kinship with fellow fans, and a connection with my hometown for it...There are worse things than rooting for a loser.

[DMAC]

I don't like to watch commercials all Sunday afternoon, so I stopped watching NFL a couple years ago.

[KCTitus]

I don't like to watch commercials all Sunday afternoon, so I stopped watching NFL a couple years ago.

Redzone...it's the ONLY NFL channel I watch.

[DMAC]

Redzone...it's the ONLY NFL channel I watch.

I also don't like paying for TV.

[CaliChief83]

I have tried before, but I just couldn't do it. This team is engrained and there's nothing I can do about it. I thought it wouldn't be that difficult as I have no ties to the team. I live in California and have never been to kc. And yet here I am, still as disappointed in this team and franchise as I've ever been

[Baby Lee]

I don't like to watch commercials all Sunday afternoon, so I stopped watching NFL a couple years ago.

Red Zone and streams. 'Channel' surf to your heart's content.

Lots of entertainment, and a good perspective on the quality of the entire league.

[Baby Lee]

I also don't like paying for TV.

go to reddit's NFL streams Sunday morning. They start listing links to ESPN and NFLN at 6am, and individual games around 11am [CST].

[DMAC]

go to reddit's NFL streams Sunday morning. They start listing links to ESPN and NFLN at 6am, and individual games around 11am [CST].

Meh. I'm good.

[Sandy Vagina]

Sunday was a rough day for me. Went to the game, which was a gut punch (but not as much as it used to be), came home, watched the Royals lose. I was down.


Then on Monday, it was all put in perspective...

A man at our church lost his wife 6 months ago to cancer after a long battle. Within a month, his mother died. Monday night, his son was on a motorcycle and was hit and killed instantly. I get so angry, and sad, and melancholy about the Chiefs, and yet on Monday, i found myself in a position where I couldn't imagine the pain upon pain being heaped on this poor guy.

The Chiefs **** up.. a lot. i spend a lot of money watching them **** up. But you know, I look forward to the show every season and every week. i have a kinship with fellow fans, and a connection with my hometown for it...There are worse things than rooting for a loser.

Outstanding post.. and perspective. Life really is too short to sit around sniveling about a losing record from your team. If you don't have FAR more important things to tend to in your life, then oh damn... what a life.

[Baby Lee]

Meh. I'm good.

It's less trouble than turning your TV/Satellite/Stereo on.

[Baby Lee]

Outstanding post.. and perspective. Life really is too short to sit around sniveling about a losing record from your team. If you don't have FAR more important things to tend to in your life, then oh damn... what a life.

Fuck you bitch, you're a cunty cooze. /;)

[DMAC]

It's less trouble than turning your TV/Satellite/Stereo on.

Now that I don't watch it...I have no desire to.

[Sandy Vagina]

**** you bitch, you're a ****y cooze. /;)

LMAO... your words are hurtful! Maybe I should make a post about how one more insult, and I might leave CP forever!!!!

[Rasputin]

says the tough guy on the internet. Oooh... you so tough.

Why do you come here just to piss people off? Then not be liked by anyone.


Do you feel accomplished to freaking ruin threads when you post here?



Go harbor another forum and leave us alone please. I'm asking nicely.

[Baby Lee]

LMAO... your words are hurtful! Maybe I should make a post about how one more insult, and I might leave CP forever!!!!

Awesome, cooze is filter safe! :thumb:

[Sandy Vagina]

Why do you come here just to piss people off? Then not be liked by anyone.


Do you feel accomplished to freaking ruin threads when you post here?



Go harbor another forum and leave us alone please. I'm asking nicely.

I'm not here to piss anyone off.

People just turn nasty on me because all they see is "Alex-lover", and misplace their anger on me because Alex sure isn't here to read their posts.

I am no different than most KC fans. I want the team to do well, and get disappointed when they don't.

Somehow, I am the bad guy in all of this.. because I was wrong about Alex working out well for KC. Go look back a page or three. I expressed an opinion about dealing with team disappointment, and people went nuts on me, lol.

So really, don't turn this around on me. I don't hold petty grudges or take much personally. Can these fine people say the same? Nope.

[PhillyChiefFan]

Sunday was a rough day for me. Went to the game, which was a gut punch (but not as much as it used to be), came home, watched the Royals lose. I was down.


Then on Monday, it was all put in perspective...

A man at our church lost his wife 6 months ago to cancer after a long battle. Within a month, his mother died. Monday night, his son was on a motorcycle and was hit and killed instantly. I get so angry, and sad, and melancholy about the Chiefs, and yet on Monday, i found myself in a position where I couldn't imagine the pain upon pain being heaped on this poor guy.

The Chiefs **** up.. a lot. i spend a lot of money watching them **** up. But you know, I look forward to the show every season and every week. i have a kinship with fellow fans, and a connection with my hometown for it...There are worse things than rooting for a loser.

Damn good post. Rep.

[BossChief]

Outside Flacco and Rodgers, there wasn't anyone at the time where you said 'there it was. There went our big chance' unless you were retarded for Geno, or Quinn.

Bulshit.

We traded for Trent Green instead of drafting Brees With the pick
We drafted Derrick Johnson and passed on Aaron Rodgers
We drafted Glenn Dorsey and Brandon Albert over Joe Flacco
We drafted Tyson Jackson over Mark Sanchez (I didn't want him, but he would have been better than Jackson/Cassel)
We drafted Jon Baldwin over Andy Dalton
We drafted Donald Stephenson over Russel Wilson
We drafted Dee Ford over Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr

That's 6 and a possible 7 instances that we passed on QBs when we needed one to draft a bust or someone that doesn't significantly impact games.

[DMAC]

Bulshit.

We traded for Trent Green instead of drafting Brees With the pick
We drafted Derrick Johnson and passed on Aaron Rodgers
We drafted Glenn Dorsey and Brandon Albert over Joe Flacco
We drafted Tyson Jackson over Mark Sanchez (I didn't want him, but he would have been better than Jackson/Cassel)
We drafted Jon Baldwin over Andy Dalton
We drafted Donald Stephenson over Russel Wilson
We drafted Dee Ford over Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr

That's 6 and a possible 7 instances that we passed on QBs when we needed one to draft a bust or someone that doesn't significantly impact games.

One could make the case that they are trolling you.

[Baby Lee]

Bulshit.
Awesome 2015 post!!

[BossChief]

Awesome 2015 post!!

Are you saying that I'm just using hindsight? Because I bet we can find lots of posts where people wanted each and every one of the quarterbacks I listed.

The teams GMs are paid a shitload to identify these guys.

That the Chiefs should never draft a QB because none of them are sure things?

Other teams (good ones) were able to identify these quarterbacks and develop them...and because they did they were rewarded.

[BossChief]

One could make the case that they are trolling you.

Damn... Bet you're right.

[Rain Man]

I don't think I would ever leave the Chiefs as an individual team. They're like having an underachieving older brother. Whether or not you enjoy hanging out with them, fate has linked you with them.

But the NFL is different, and I've been leaving the Chiefs just because I don't like the NFL's product these days. There's too much cheating and too much marketing and the league isn't promoting the sport any more. The league is promoting merchandise sales and TV viewership, which means that they don't care about real fans and are more interested in attracting casual fans. We've talked about all of this stuff at length, but the bottom line is that the Chiefs are losing me primarily because the NFL has lost me.

[BossChief]

What made you a fan in the first place, Rainman?

[ptlyon]

Don't care about real fans?!?! :eek:

[Rain Man]

What made you a fan in the first place, Rainman?

Y',know, that's a good question. I think it was a genuine appreciation of the sport. No one in my family growing up was a sports fan at all. I just found football on TV and liked watching it, and then really enjoyed playing it as a kid.

I was living in southwest Missouri and northwest Arkansas at the time, so I saw the Chiefs games, and they were a good team at that point. It was easy to become a Chiefs fan.

[Discuss Thrower]

I don't think I would ever leave the Chiefs as an individual team. They're like having an underachieving older brother. Whether or not you enjoy hanging out with them, fate has linked you with them.

But the NFL is different, and I've been leaving the Chiefs just because I don't like the NFL's product these days. There's too much cheating and too much marketing and the league isn't promoting the sport any more. The league is promoting merchandise sales and TV viewership, which means that they don't care about real fans and are more interested in attracting casual fans. We've talked about all of this stuff at length, but the bottom line is that the Chiefs are losing me primarily because the NFL has lost me.

They're trying to maximize cash value before the concussion crisis ends the league.

They don't care about promoting the sport because the sport is a dead man walking.

[Rain Man]

Don't care about real fans?!?! :eek:

They know that the hardcore fans will show up at games and buy jerseys and stuff. The product tends to keep those fans loyal, so why do anything for their benefit? As a pure short-term business decision, they're doing the right thing by concentrating all of their rulemaking and marketing on capturing markets that don't currently buy merchandise. That's why they want to make the game flashier and why they cater to women with the pink stuff.

I worry that it's a good short-term decision and a bad long-term decision. Thirty years from now, will there be any fans going to a cold December game? They may not care enough. But then again, we may be seeing the final generation of football. If the concussion stuff and the brain damage stuff continues gaining momentum, football may not have a long term.

[Rain Man]

They're trying to maximize cash value before the concussion crisis ends the league.

They don't care about promoting the sport because the sport is a dead man walking.

Heh. You beat me to it while I was typing the same thing.

[Baby Lee]

Are you saying that I'm just using hindsight? Because I bet we can find lots of posts where people wanted each and every one of the quarterbacks I listed.

The teams GMs are paid a shitload to identify these guys.

That the Chiefs should never draft a QB because none of them are sure things?

Other teams (good ones) were able to identify these quarterbacks and develop them...and because they did they were rewarded.

I view Green and Brees as a wash. Brees is great, but Trent was perfect for Vermeil and set records here. No way to know whose knee turns Brees into Batman like Trent if he comes here.

I agreed on Flacco and Rodgers, and advocated for them at the time.

Wilson and Dalton were misses, but;
1) they were drafted significantly down the board,
2) the shittiness of our pick is not relevant to the merit of passing on these two, which leads to
3) no way to know if they are thriving because they're intrinsically awesome, or if the Bengals and Seahawks are intrinsically better organizations.

Sanchez was and is trash. Him getting dragged to playoff wins is an example of the worst case scenario of our QB strategy and the best case scenario of our strategy regarding the rest of the team. Alex would have kill infants to have gotten plopped down into Sanchez's situation.

I could go on.

My point was, there hasn't been a clear cut 'there went our chance' scenario.

[Hammock Parties]

Nope. They're my team. I'm stuck with them.

Don't go to games or buy their stupid shit anymore, though. I'll be back doing that once they show they're committed to winning.

[Dunerdr]

If they hired bob stoops.

[Molitoth]

Russell Wilson might be a complete joke running Andy Reid's offense.
Mark Sanchez might be a complete stud running Todd Haley's offense.
Tom Brady might have fallen down the depth chart and be out of football if it wasn't for his chance.
Peyton Manning could have been a bust in San Diego.


The QB position is such dependent on the situation, offensive scheme, and play calling that you can't really prove that a QB would be good in one place and not in another, but you have to try... and you cannot keep trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Trying Matt Cassel and Alex Smith was fine... but the contracts were/are stupid. It was pretty easy to see that both were garbage after year 2 and the team should have moved on much sooner. If Alex Smith is starting QB next season, this city will have another meltdown.

[Discuss Thrower]

Russell Wilson might be a complete joke running Andy Reid's offense.
Mark Sanchez might be a complete stud running Todd Haley's offense.
Tom Brady might have fallen down the depth chart and be out of football if it wasn't for his chance.
Peyton Manning could have been a bust in San Diego.


The QB position is such dependent on the situation, offensive scheme, and play calling that you can't really prove that a QB would be good in one place and not in another, but you have to try... and you cannot keep trying to fit a square peg in a round hole.
Trying Matt Cassel and Alex Smith was fine... but the contracts were/are stupid. It was pretty easy to see that both were garbage after year 2 and the team should have moved on much sooner. If Alex Smith is starting QB next season, this city will have another meltdown.

Not if the Royals are no worse than 10 games below .500 when the preseason starts next year. They'll keep people interested if they're competitive.

Part of me will enjoy seeing Arrowhead facing blackouts next year because people know the jig is up with Smith at QB and this false idea that you can get by with defense. This isn't the 1990s anymore; unless you have an elite defense like Seattle's in 2013-2014, you're not winning shit. It's allllllllll about having a QB that can sustain drives and put points on the board at their leisure.

Maybe Clark will deviate from his dad's blueprint of getting some other team's castoff QB. That may have worked for the better part of the 1960s with Lenny, but we've seen over two decades now that it's failed with Bono, Grbac, Green, Cassel and Smith.

[keg in kc]

If I left Kansas City, I'd probably stop following the team. I can't think of a reason I'd stop paying attention (permanently...) while I'm still here.

The Royals on the other hand have done enough that I'd continue following them even if I moved.

Who'da thunk that about 5 years ago...

[notorious]

If you could flush the current franchise to another city and get a brand new franchise and owner with the same name and everything would you do it?

[Discuss Thrower]

If you could flush the current franchise to another city and get a brand new franchise and owner with the same name and everything would you do it?

Same color with less of a Ronald McDonald look, maybe. But I think they're past due with a name change. Being a reason for idiot white people to wear headdresses and tailgate with teepees isn't acceptable anymore IMO.

[notorious]

Same color with less of a Ronald McDonald look, maybe. But I think they're past due with a name change. Being a reason for idiot white people to wear headdresses and tailgate with teepees isn't acceptable anymore IMO.

I am one of the few that would welcome a big change in appearance.


This franchise needs a fresh, new look to go with a fresh, new start.

[Baby Lee]

Being a reason for idiot white people to wear headdresses and tailgate with teepees isn't acceptable anymore IMO.

I too hate fun.

[ChiTown]

The Chiefs are like a bad penny, they always turn up some place in my life.

We are forever attached, thru bad times and the ...................bad times.

[ptlyon]

I am one of the few that would welcome a big change in appearance.


This franchise needs a fresh, new look to go with a fresh, new start.

And offering up a brand new bag of dicks for the fans to eat

[ChiTown]

And offering up a brand new bag of dicks for the fans to eat

ROFL

[notorious]

And offering up a brand new bag of dicks for the fans to eat

I prefer to think of it as a "fresh" bag of dicks.

[Baby Lee]

I prefer to think of it as a "fresh" bag of dicks.

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[Rain Man]

If you could flush the current franchise to another city and get a brand new franchise and owner with the same name and everything would you do it?

Could we name them the Ermines?

[KChiefs1]

I just bought the book, "When it was a Game" about the first Super Bowl which I remember watching as a 6 year old so there's probably nothing to make me walk away from the Chiefs.

[ptlyon]

I prefer to think of it as a "fresh" bag of dicks.

One would think a brand new bag of dicks would be fresh as well, but maybe not :hmmm:

[Chiefnj2]

Now that they've come out flat and are underachieving I will hope it continues so that the team makes wholesale changes. As bad as it seems, I hope the Raiders beat the Chiefs. I want every young QB that we passed on to beat them to help drive home the point that they need to draft and develop a QB of their own.

[ClevelandBronco]

If you could flush the current franchise to another city and get a brand new franchise and owner with the same name and everything would you do it?

Before you go making plans, you might want to ask Cleveland how that worked out for them.

[Discuss Thrower]

I too hate fun.

It's incredibly bad taste at it's best and unabashed racism at worst.

The only thing going for the Chiefs is that it's defensible because it's an English word for someone who has command or control of others.

IMHO the Chiefs name can stay, but Arrowhead as a stadium name has to go, the war drum has to go, the tomahawk chop has to go and, as much as I love sexy women on horses, Warpaint needs a second retirement as well.

[sedated]

Personally, I'm getting fed up with the NFL as a whole. Sundays used to be my favorite day and I'd never miss a moment of the action. But between retarded rules (what the F is a catch anymore?), daily fantasy commercials, the same QBs winning year after year, and a league that doesn't even bother to hide its greed and hypocrisy (I never thought any league could touch the NCAA but the NFL is getting close), on top of my team having no hope of winning in the near future, I simply don't have NEAR the interest I used to.

[Discuss Thrower]

Personally, I'm getting fed up with the NFL as a whole. Sundays used to be my favorite day and I'd never miss a moment of the action. But between retarded rules (what the F is a catch anymore?), daily fantasy commercials, the same QBs winning year after year, and a league that doesn't even bother to hide its greed and hypocrisy (I never thought any league could touch the NCAA but the NFL is getting close), on top of my team having no hope of winning in the near future, I simply don't have NEAR the interest I used to.

Yup. The playoffs have been the Patriots, Broncos, Steelers and Colts how many times in the last 15 years in the AFC? That's pathetic.

[sedated]

Personally, I'm getting fed up with the NFL as a whole. Sundays used to be my favorite day and I'd never miss a moment of the action. But between retarded rules (what the F is a catch anymore?), daily fantasy commercials, the same QBs winning year after year, and a league that doesn't even bother to hide its greed and hypocrisy (I never thought any league could touch the NCAA but the NFL is getting close), on top of my team having no hope of winning in the near future, I simply don't have NEAR the interest I used to.

Oh, and the friggin commercials! I watched last week's Sunday night game and it seemed like a lot more than usual. I could clearly envision an NFL where there is a commercial between every play. Even the halftime shows are just 3 minutes of highlights and 12 minutes of commercials.

[Scooter LaCanforno]

If they hired Shannon Sharpe as an announcer I would walk away.

[tmw4h5]

Read the first few lines of your garbage post. Goddamn, you suck.

[Rain Man]

I just bought the book, "When it was a Game" about the first Super Bowl which I remember watching as a 6 year old so there's probably nothing to make me walk away from the Chiefs.

So you're saying that the Ermines name is acceptable as a change, then?

[notorious]

So you're saying that the Ermines name is acceptable as a change, then?

That's almost the same as the "Hermines".


Do you remember who led the charge on that abortion?

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[Hammock Parties]

lessons learned :facepalm:

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Probably not. The Chiefs are a sick fascination for me at this point.

[Otter]

It's incredibly bad taste at it's best and unabashed racism at worst.

The only thing going for the Chiefs is that it's defensible because it's an English word for someone who has command or control of others.

IMHO the Chiefs name can stay, but Arrowhead as a stadium name has to go, the war drum has to go, the tomahawk chop has to go and, as much as I love sexy women on horses, Warpaint needs a second retirement as well.

It's amusing how people look for something to be offended about. :deevee:

Your tears are yummy!

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

It's amusing how people look for something to be offended about. :deevee:

Your tears are yummy!

Should change name to "squaws" the way these bitches have played for 10 years.

[Easy 6]

All you sad sacks need to BUCK UP, Smiff is going to rally our boys to glory!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/10/15/chiefs-smith-trying-to-rally-team-after-losses-injuries/74002838/

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

All you sad sacks need to BUCK UP, Smiff is going to rally our boys to glory!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/10/15/chiefs-smith-trying-to-rally-team-after-losses-injuries/74002838/

ROFL

[underEJ]

Become apathetic? Yes

Completely walk away? No

I'm not renewing my ST's next year...have had them for nearly 10 years now. I can't see myself coming back any time soon. The product does not even come close to justifying the cost. Tired of watching a team like Denver win consistently with different coaches and players every other year. That's what happens when your organization is committed to winning from top to bottom, and not just putting asses in the seats.

That's me too. Season ticket holder of a few years, but the family has always had them. I have had thoughts about letting go before this, but never seriously, the ticket seniority is hard to build when it is going well! The Denver game this year was a different story. I just hit a wall. I have to fly to the games too so the effort is quite high to stay engaged. Here's how much that game impacted me...

Yesterday, when I got home from work, I got an envelope from the Chiefs in the mail. I opened it to find my season ticket cards in it. I had apparently lost them in KC after that game and hadn't even noticed until they mailed them to me. How sad is that? I am clearly disconnected in a way that has never happened before. I might not have noticed until next week when I was planning to go to the game, but probably not because I think I'm going to cancel my trip.

[underEJ]

If they hired Shannon Sharpe as an announcer I would walk away.

Yep, that would do it too!

[chiefzilla1501]

It's incredibly bad taste at it's best and unabashed racism at worst.

The only thing going for the Chiefs is that it's defensible because it's an English word for someone who has command or control of others.

IMHO the Chiefs name can stay, but Arrowhead as a stadium name has to go, the war drum has to go, the tomahawk chop has to go and, as much as I love sexy women on horses, Warpaint needs a second retirement as well.

I agree. I'm also highly offended by the Vikings and hope they finally ban these dickheads from wearing those ridiculously offensive Viking hats. Also Dallas... they're called Cowboys, not Cowgirls. Stop dressing those chicks up in skimpy costumes. And the Giants... offensive to midgets.

[GloryDayz]

At least they keep fucking trying.

This.... SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[stonedstooge]

All you sad sacks need to BUCK UP, Smiff is going to rally our boys to glory!

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/10/15/chiefs-smith-trying-to-rally-team-after-losses-injuries/74002838/


WE'RE STILL IN THE HUNT/Fatman and Nubbin


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[Easy 6]

WE'RE STILL IN THE HUNT/Fatman and Nubbin


http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/59/25/7b/59257b439d9cc30122df12cd9bd7959a.jpg

LMAO

Nubbin...

LMAO

[Pitt Gorilla]

Nope. I'm here for the long haul. If 30 years of garbage didn't deter me from the Royals, a decade of Chiefs suck isn't going to either.

[InChiefsHeaven]

I figured if I could make it through 2012, a 2 win season, banners flying and a fucking murder suicide...I could make it through anything.

I think I'm still there. But I find myself not caring nearly as much as I used to. I guess I'm getting older.

[rabblerouser]

That's what the Chiefs have done to us.

Exactly. I'm tired of spending $$ there. Between 2008, firing Haley, 2012, the umpteenth playoff loss to the ****ing Dolts and now this AIDS-filled dumpster fire...my asshole hurts, and I'm tired of it.

I only watch to make fun of them. When I look in my closet and 60% of my clothes are red and gold, I feel like a ****ing chump.

[rabblerouser]

I figured if I could make it through 2012, a 2 win season, banners flying and a ****ing murder suicide...I could make it through anything.

I think I'm still there. But I find myself not caring nearly as much as I used to. I guess I'm getting older.

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[GloryDayz]

How far we've come regressed!

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[Bowser]

For me, brand loyalty makes no sense in the absence of company performance. I am loyal to Toyota and Apple as long as they continue to produce a product that I value. As soon as they stop doing that, I'll research and identify a better brand. I see no difference with products that are sports related.Congratulations, you are a terrorist!

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Bulshit.

We traded for Trent Green instead of drafting Brees With the pick
We drafted Derrick Johnson and passed on Aaron Rodgers
We drafted Glenn Dorsey and Brandon Albert over Joe Flacco
We drafted Tyson Jackson over Mark Sanchez (I didn't want him, but he would have been better than Jackson/Cassel)
We drafted Jon Baldwin over Andy Dalton
We drafted Donald Stephenson over Russel Wilson
We drafted Dee Ford over Teddy Bridgewater and Derek Carr

That's 6 and a possible 7 instances that we passed on QBs when we needed one to draft a bust or someone that doesn't significantly impact games.

God, this post is like a kick to the cock and balls region of your soul.

[Hammock Parties]

How far we've come regressed!

http://media2.kshb.com//photo/2013/01/04/reid-hunt-plaza_20130104221925_640_480.GIF

http://i.imgur.com/fGik9dk.jpg

[GloryDayz]

http://i.imgur.com/fGik9dk.jpgRep

[RedandGold]

I doubt I could walk away completely, but my level of "give a shit" has dropped considerably. I'm not spending money on tickets and merchandise like I used to, and the losses don't ruin my mood like they once did.

I've definitely been enjoying the Royals more than the Chiefs, and my overall interest in the NFL has dropped.

[Discuss Thrower]

It's amusing how people look for something to be offended about. :deevee:

Your tears are yummy!

God forbid we give difference to a group of people who had ethnic cleansing.

This isn't a political correctness issue. It's a respect issueissue.

[Baby Lee]

It's incredibly bad taste at it's best and unabashed racism at worst.

The only thing going for the Chiefs is that it's defensible because it's an English word for someone who has command or control of others.

IMHO the Chiefs name can stay, but Arrowhead as a stadium name has to go, the war drum has to go, the tomahawk chop has to go and, as much as I love sexy women on horses, Warpaint needs a second retirement as well.

Go fuck yourself.

[Baby Lee]

I agree. I'm also highly offended by the Vikings and hope they finally ban these dickheads from wearing those ridiculously offensive Viking hats. Also Dallas... they're called Cowboys, not Cowgirls. Stop dressing those chicks up in skimpy costumes. And the Giants... offensive to midgets.

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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Is Discuss trolling? Or is he simply another honey boo-boo millennial who was raised like a honey boo-boo?

[rabblerouser]

Been there done that. Look, I'm 69 and been following and supporting the team since they moved to KC. I was in the south Pacific when they won their only Super Bowl, so I missed that highlight.

My Dad had 6 tickets and royally got screwed when they moved to Arrowhead, but over time and the really, really lean years eventually moved to section 118. We wound up keeping 2 seats and went just about every weekend. We even "won" the Super Bowl lottery had everything ready to go. All they had to do is beat Buffalo. You all feel let down now? Yeah, try that let down.

Yes, we did receive the "loyalty reward" of the 35-year season ticket holder patches and pins. Patches and pins for 35-years of going to the games and supporting the team? That's all you could think of? Whoo-hoo!

The over time, prices continued to rise, the teams stumbling to mediocrity continued and they wanted more money. When I retired and got my renewal, I realized that we could no longer afford to go any more.

My wife and I only enjoy football so this time of year is great for us. We will continue to watch the Chiefs play, but our Sundays are no longer planned around the games and at times, may just go outside and watch the world go by instead of watching the games as we once did.

Unlike some, we still have all of our old Chiefs gear and flags, but lately, they have just been left hanging in the closet and the red Fridays no longer mean much anymore.

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[rabblerouser]

With the win last night the Royals have more playoff wins in the last 2 years than every QB expect for Montana and Brady. I get the point though, the franchise has been historically terrible, and is consistent at it. The only thing I like about the franchise is that Clark has brought in the 2 highest candidates in the league to be the GM. While it might not have worked, it does show that he is at least trying.
He's just trying to be 'respectable'; he's NOT trying to win a SB.

And that is the problem.

[rabblerouser]

Congratulations, you are a terrorist!

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God, this post is like a kick to the cock and balls region of your soul.

Dee Ford over Derek Carr makes me sick to my stomach.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

He's just trying to be 'respectable'; he's NOT trying to win a SB.

And that is the problem.

The NFL needs certain teams to be competitive, but not make waves so that their precious ratings-boos can continue to rake the cash in from morons.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

The NFL needs certain teams to be competitive, but not make waves so that their precious ratings-boos can continue to rake the cash in from morons.

Clark is happy to oblige in this corporate endeavor.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Dee Ford over Derek Carr makes me sick to my stomach.

But...but...Rudy told me he sucked...

[rabblerouser]

The NFL needs certain teams to be competitive, but not make waves so that their precious ratings-boos can continue to rake the cash in from morons.

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[Pasta Little Brioni]

It isn't college hoops level shit, but the rule changes have made this game an inferior product to what it was.

[Baby Lee]

Honestly, if I ever completely break with the Chiefs, it'll more likely be over how retarded the fans are than how bad the team performs.

[KCbroncoHATER]

Ever since it became clear that Clark Hunt was just as cheap as his dad I knew that KC fans will never, ever be a team like the Patriots team.

I down graded my seats so I didn't have to worry about the cost of the season tickets anymore. I now spend less on both tickets and parking than I use to spend on just one ticket per game.

[rico]

I was just thinking about this when I was at work a couple nights ago. This thought rarely ever crosses my mind. And what I concluded the other night was this: I am addicted. Good or bad, I don't think I have it in me to not check in with the Chiefs...I will always be a Chiefs fan...and as pessimistic as I have been these past few years with them, sometimes I get the feeling that I am in for some major perma-miserable Chiefs fan. Sometimes I wonder if they will ever figure it out...Oh, but I will be right there checking in multiple times per day regardless.

[Sully]

Ever since it became clear that Clark Hunt was just as cheap as his dad I knew that KC fans will never, ever be a team like the Patriots team.



This is not based on reality.

[KCTitus]

...We've talked about all of this stuff at length, but the bottom line is that the Chiefs are losing me primarily because the NFL has lost me.

I've mentioned this several times before, but the league is starting to devour itself. The league doesnt care about the game it seems, but only cares about the brand and marketing garbage. The Pinktober campaign, the 'no more' campaign, the commission special exemption list for the 'naughty' players, the heavy handed ness of suspending twitter accounts for posting gifs of plays.

Yet the product on the field has become crap. The definition of a catch has become a joke, referees that review plays and those on TV completely disagree with the outcome of a call, and the referee crews are completely inconsistent from group to group and teams like KC get called for crap that would never happen to a Patriots, Dallas, Green Bay, Denver or Indy (notice they all have superstar QB's.).

I hate the league more than I hate the current iteration of the Chiefs.

[rabblerouser]

I've mentioned this several times before, but the league is starting to devour itself. The league doesnt care about the game it seems, but only cares about the brand and marketing garbage. The Pinktober campaign, the 'no more' campaign, the commission special exemption list for the 'naughty' players, the heavy handed ness of suspending twitter accounts for posting gifs of plays.

Yet the product on the field has become crap. The definition of a catch has become a joke, referees that review plays and those on TV completely disagree with the outcome of a call, and the referee crews are completely inconsistent from group to group and teams like KC get called for crap that would never happen to a Patriots, Dallas, Green Bay, Denver or Indy (notice they all have superstar QB's.).

I hate the league more than I hate the current iteration of the Chiefs.

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Yup.

This is NOT the game I grew up with (and remember - I'm younger than the majority of posters here)

**** the NFL. **** the NFL in its stupid ****ing ass.

The NFL is ****ing clown shoes.

[TEX]

I've mentioned this several times before, but the league is starting to devour itself. The league doesnt care about the game it seems, but only cares about the brand and marketing garbage. The Pinktober campaign, the 'no more' campaign, the commission special exemption list for the 'naughty' players, the heavy handed ness of suspending twitter accounts for posting gifs of plays.

Yet the product on the field has become crap. The definition of a catch has become a joke, referees that review plays and those on TV completely disagree with the outcome of a call, and the referee crews are completely inconsistent from group to group and teams like KC get called for crap that would never happen to a Patriots, Dallas, Green Bay, Denver or Indy (notice they all have superstar QB's.).

I hate the league more than I hate the current iteration of the Chiefs.

:clap: Rep!

You've posted some really good stuff over the years, and this is at the top of the list. People need to realize what's happened to the league - this is not the NFL that I grew up watching. Hell, it's not even Marty and DT's NFL. THAT shows how much it's changed in such a short period of time. It's a very flawed league, filled with rule changes, fool proof ways to manipulate moments of games and whatever else it takes to ensure the narrative that you mentioned.

Now that the Chiefs have failed yet again, in a way that MANY predicted they would, based on repeating the same mistakes of the past. I have started to do other things that were normally reserved for watching football. The NFL product is not good enough to keep me watching when my favorite team sucks. THAT was NOT the case in the past. I didn't watch MNF the past two weeks and completely forgot about last night's game. The bottom line in my world is the NFL = No Big Deal...

[Chromatic]

Is Discuss trolling? Or is he simply another honey boo-boo millennial who was raised like a honey boo-boo?

This makes no sense.

I also wouldn't care if they changed the name of everything.

[Pablo]

Honestly, if I ever completely break with the Chiefs, it'll more likely be over how retarded the fans are than how bad the team performs.I'm sure you'll find that the next NFL fan base you join will be absolutely loaded with brilliant fans.

[Chief_For_Life58]

why would u quit the chiefs? haha you cant. yo are stuck with them forever!!!!!

[Baby Lee]

I'm sure you'll find that the next NFL fan base you join will be absolutely loaded with brilliant fans.

Meh, it's more that so many are cracking under the sustained pressure of disappointment. It's somewhat understandable, but still embarassing at times.

It reminds me of hanging out with a burnt out PTSD vets with erectile dysfunction.

[Brock]

The chiefs are the ones with limp dicks

[Pablo]

Meh, it's more that so many are cracking under the sustained pressure of disappointment. It's somewhat understandable, but still embarassing at times.

It reminds me of hanging out with a burnt out PTSD vets with erectile dysfunction.Embarrassing franchises beget embarrassing fans. No real surprise there.

[Baby Lee]

Embarrassing franchises beget embarrassing fans. No real surprise there.

I said it was understandable. But the question was whether anything would make me walk away, and that's my answer.

Sorry I don't have a cooler one for you.

[Pablo]

I said it was understandable. But the question was whether anything would make me walk away, and that's my answer.

Sorry I don't have a cooler one for you.You're forgiven.

[Indian Chief]

I've seen it mentioned a few times. I think apathetic is more the attitude I am developing. And that might be influenced more by the current NFL than the Chiefs themselves. I find it really difficult to spend money on this league and root for a lot of the players.

[PunkinDrublic]

No. When the team is shitty, I watch the game on Sunday and move the fuck on with my life. I call it being in 3 hour fan mode.

[KCTitus]

...I didn't watch MNF the past two weeks and completely forgot about last night's game. The bottom line in my world is the NFL = No Big Deal...

Thx, TEX...

The above is a good point...I havent watched a 'prime time' game (except those involving the Chiefs) in many years. I never missed a MNF game in the 90's...

[Discuss Thrower]

For whatever reason, the only interesting nationally televised games are the Sunday nighters. The Monday Night slate has sucked for whatever odd reason since ESPN took over the broadcast.

Thursdays are a joke period.

[Chiefnj2]

I've accepted the fact that the game has changed and will never be the same as it was.

It's about fantasy football and stats now. If you are lucky your team drafts a marketable QB and you start to get favorable calls and media attention.

10 years from now by week six the team will be getting ready for its 4 game European portion of the schedule where they will play in London, Barcelona, Amsterdam and Munich.

[ptlyon]

Amsterdam would be nice...

[Ming the Merciless]

It reminds me of hanging out with a burnt out PTSD vets with erectile dysfunction.

You did a fine service fuckign and sucking all those crusty homeless vet cocks to see which ones were limp and which were hard.

Thank you for your charity.

This reminds me of the time you inspected all of those disabled boys to see which ones were gay ..."for science"

Again, many thanks from the community for your efforts in this area.

[Baby Lee]

You did a fine service fuckign and sucking all those crusty homeless vet cocks to see which ones were limp and which were hard.

Thank you for your charity.

This reminds me of the time you inspected all of those disabled boys to see which ones were gay ..."for science"

Again, many thanks from the community for your efforts in this area.

You're just weird.

Do you interact with the general public the way you try here?

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Honestly, if I ever completely break with the Chiefs, it'll more likely be over how retarded the fans are than how bad the team performs.

Yeah, they just need to exercise more patience, and just be glad that they have an abortion to call their very own.

You have seriously fucking lost it.

[Baby Lee]

Yeah, they just need to exercise more patience, and just be glad that they have an abortion to call their very own.

You have seriously fucking lost it.

Says the guy who can't wait to root for the Chiefs, . . . when they're the London Beefeaters, with 53 new players, an all new coaching staff and different ownership!!

What's next? Breaking up with your girlfriend until she grow a dick?

[rabblerouser]

Says the guy who can't wait to root for the Chiefs, . . . when they're the London Beefeaters, with 53 new players, an all new coaching staff and different ownership!!

What's next? Breaking up with your girlfriend until she grow a dick?

:eek:

You've got severe mental problems man.

[Baby Lee]

:eek:

You've got severe mental problems man.

What? He's actually said that. Not London specifically, but all different players, coaches, owners and city.

And he actively hates anyone who wants anything currently associated with the organization to have any success, because it just delays his gratification in the flames.

He's a Chiefs nihilist

https://cedarsdigest.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/nihilist-fight.jpg

[Rasputin]

I can see this happening in Chiefs 2016 draft.


With Chiefs picking say 4th in the draft the Broncos leap frog and trade up to third and take the best quarterback in the draft then Chiefs draft a running back.




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[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Says the guy who can't wait to root for the Chiefs, . . . when they're the London Beefeaters, with 53 new players, an all new coaching staff and different ownership!!

What's next? Breaking up with your girlfriend until she grow a dick?

Well hell, Norma Jean; what with that great track record of cHunt success staring me right in the face, how could I possibly argue taking steps to disrupt this magnificent, decades-long suck-rodeo.

What in thee hell am I thinking?

[rabblerouser]

What? He's actually said that. Not London specifically, but all different players, coaches, owners and city.

And he actively hates anyone who wants anything currently associated with the organization to have any success, because it just delays his gratification in the flames.

He's a Chiefs nihilist

https://cedarsdigest.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/nihilist-fight.jpg

I don't know who you're trying to convince; I think the shit's rigged, yet still can't stop watching.

I'm torn between my usual "hope the Chiefs win" attitude I've had since I was 8 years old, and the "let's tank this bitch to 1-15 so we can get rid of Andy and Alex plus get the #1 pick"...

All the while knowing that the Chiefs have no chance because Clark is worse than his dad about being complacent with his team, and the Chiefs will never win a SB as long as Clark is the owner.

Why?

Because Chiefs.

So...I believes in nussing, Levowski.

[BossChief]

What?

Clark hadn't wasted time firing people that can't do the job and replacing them with the best money can buy.

IMO his mistake has been not forcing them to draft qbs with premium picks.

Hopefully, he has learned his lesson this time.

[splatbass]

I've been a fan for 45 years, through lots of bad times. If I haven't walked away by now it is unlikely to happen.

[splatbass]

All the while knowing that the Chiefs have no chance because Clark is worse than his dad about being complacent with his team

What are you smoking? Clark has fired more GMs and HCs in his short time at the helm than his dad did in decades.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

I pretty much already have.

I saw most of the Bengals game, and a little bit of the Bears game. Aside from that, haven't seen it, haven't cared.

[rabblerouser]

I pretty much already have.

I saw most of the Bengals game, and a little bit of the Bears game. Aside from that, haven't seen it, haven't cared.

I understand.

[Baby Lee]

I don't know who you're trying to convince;

I see now. Sorry.

You don't think I'm 'mentally ill' for being too mean towards SDW.

You think I'm 'mentally ill' for not realizing that the London Beefeaters would be AWESOME to root for.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

I see now. Sorry.

You don't think I'm 'mentally ill' for being too mean towards SDW.

You think I'm 'mentally ill' for not realizing that the London Beefeaters would be AWESOME to root for.

"It's great just to have a team, a tradition, and just make a little noise every 20 years" /Baby Lee

[OnTheWarpath15]

What?

Clark hadn't wasted time firing people that can't do the job and replacing them with the best money can buy.

IMO his mistake has been not forcing them to draft qbs with premium picks.

Hopefully, he has learned his lesson this time.

Actually, it seems his biggest mistake is assuming that the biggest names in management and coaching are the best option, followed VERY closely by not following up on his word of drafting and developing a QB.

[OnTheWarpath15]

I pretty much already have.

I saw most of the Bengals game, and a little bit of the Bears game. Aside from that, haven't seen it, haven't cared.

Same here. The only game I've watched in full was the GB game, and that was because I was there. Had to scratch Lambeau off the bucket list.