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kccrow
11-27-2015, 12:17 PM
Preface: The Chiefs have made a consistent ascent towards the top half of the NFL over the past 4 weeks, and it appears their schedule is favorable for a continued climb towards playoff contention. This likely puts the Chiefs in the bottom third of the draft and out of contention for top-tier prospects, including the most draftable QBs.

Round 1: Jack Conklin - OT - Michigan State
6'6' 318

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The Chiefs need a reliable, steady presence at right tackle. With the growth of Eric Fisher on the left side, its safe to bet the Chiefs look for a guy that can come in and make an immediate impact opposite him. Both Jack Conklin of MSU and Taylor Decker of OSU should be in play here, but Conklin has been slightly more reliable in pass protection and may make coaches a bit more comfortable if an injury were to force him to the left side.
... And Chiefs' Nation cringes ...

Round 2: Vonn Bell - SS - Ohio State
5'11" 205

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With free agency likely to take its toll on KC in the secondary during the offseason (Sean Smith, Eric Berry, Husain Abdullah, and so forth), the Chiefs will very likely need to look for some new blood. Vonn Bell may be the most well-rounded safety in this draft and has a skill set that will allow him to play either FS or SS. The only real question at this point will be whether or not he's available in the latter stages of round two. Bell is a rangy playmaker on the football and is nearly always in position to make tackles in the run game. Very similar to current Chief Eric Berry. In fact, the future of Eric Berry with the Chiefs could impact this selection. If it comes down to keeping Sean Smith or keeping Eric Berry, I have to say I'd go with Sean Smith. There's just a higher premium on good CBs.

Round 3: Chris Jones - DT - Mississippi State
6'5" 308

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The Chiefs will have some questions to answer in the offseason regarding Jaye Howard and Mike DeVito given their free agent status. While its best to keep Howard for the long-term, KC needs depth at the position. Jones has been ascending up draft boards since the middle of 2014 as he's dropped weight and has played at a higher level. Jones is a tough one-on-one block and can pressure the passer. Given his recent good play against the run he might go even higher than the 3rd round, especially if he shows well in an offseason all-star game.

Round 4: Gabe Marks - WR - Washington State
6'0" 186

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The Chiefs, despite improved play at the position, still lack explosiveness at the wide receiver spot. Marks is a very quick, shifty receiver that accelerates quickly and can turn short passes into big plays. Marks has reliable hands, and brings a tough attitude with him. Marks reminds me of Stefon Diggs, who I was very high on last year, and would fit the X receiver role, his position with the Cougars, very well in the pros.

Round 5: Kyler Fackrell - OLB - Utah State
6'5" 250

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The Chiefs really missed hard with Dee Ford, or so it appears to date. With Tamba Hali's age becoming more and more apparent, Kansas City really needs to try to bolster the pass rush going forward. Fackrell is a tough block with great edge speed and the ability to consistently push the pocket. PFF had him as college football's best pass rusher a month ago if you subscribe to their rating methods. Even if you don't like PFF, he was one of the top players in the nation in QB pressures. The key with Fackrell really is his ability to play as a stand-up linebacker, being both a solid pass defender and run stopper in addition to his pass rushing duties. However, like so many other smaller school products, Fackrell will really need some time in an NFL weight room.

Round 5: Trevone Boykin - QB - Texas Christian
6'1' 205

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The Chiefs are always in a position to update the QB spot, but with at top-10 selection unlikely, they may have to take another mid round flier. Here's two things I'm certain of with Boykin: he can throw the football anywhere on the field and he's very athletic which allows him to extend plays and make plays with his feet. What we don't know about Boykin though makes him a tough evaluation. Is Boykin actually 6'1" as listed? While there are a few exemptions, size matters with regard to QBs. Boykin comes from a QB friendly, college spread offense. Can he take his skills to the next level where he'll have to learn to take snaps from under center and, more importantly, make reads against NFL defenses? The latter half of the last question is my main concern with Boykin. He makes some questionable throws into tight coverage that he won't get away with in the NFL. He also seems to lock onto targets early. Both of these are problems directly attributable to the offense he plays in. Whether or not he can take hold of an NFL offense is something for NFL personnel men to evalutate thoroughly. If he can hack it, Boykin could end up a late round steal.

Round 6: Tra Carson - RB - Texas A&M
5'11" 235

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I really love big, one-cut and go running backs with a bulldozer mentality; guys kind of like Eddie Lacy. That's a big reason I love Arkansas back Alex Collins, but I don't think the Chiefs need to spend a 2nd or 3rd round pick on the position. The Chiefs are very fortunate that they have found some gems in Charcandrick West and Spencer Ware, especially West. With Jamaal Charles suffering yet another injury and Knile Davis firmly in the dog house (and well warranted), the Chiefs may want to look at some insurance and draft a guy. Carson is a low miles, big back, that hits the hole with conviction and has enough speed to break some runs. Carson is also a very solid receiver out of the backfield, which is an absolute necessity in an Andy Reid offense.

Round 7: Clint Van Horn - OT - Marshall
6'5" 310

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The Chiefs offensive line woes are well documented, and it never hurts to keep bringing in competition. The way Jeff Allen is playing this year, he is earning himself a new contract. The Chiefs still remain unsettled at guard though going forward. I've always admired the Packers' philosophy of taking moderately athletic, but very solid tackles and turning them into guards. I see that type of player with Marshall's Van Horn. He's a mountain of a man that is nearly impossible to get around in close quarters. While arguably the best offensive lineman in Conference USA as a right tackle, his best position in the NFL is probably at guard where his skill set can shine through. He has a strong punch to stonewall rushers and can generate movement in the run game.

kccrow
11-27-2015, 01:15 PM
Updated to reflect the extra 5th round pick I forgot about...

Saccopoo
11-27-2015, 01:26 PM
Good draft.

Can't argue against any of the picks. Really like Fackrell. Big dude with excellent production and instincts. Plays hard.

I think that Carson is a bit redundant with Spencer Ware playing as well as he has the past couple of games and I'd look for a guy who is more of a flex back, but that's nitpicking.

If Boykin can translate to the pros at the QB position (really big if at this point), this draft is a good one.

kccrow
11-27-2015, 01:48 PM
Thanks Sac. I thought about the RB position alot, I think it depends on Charles' recovery this time around. Chiefs may not even sniff the position in the draft. You may be right on the flex back option, but I'd prefer a guy like Storm Woods or Paul James (when healthy) that can be a true back and not a De'Anthony Thomas gadget player.

As for the QB position, what a clusterfuck... I mean, we're relying on three juniors to declare just to even make it a conversation: Lynch, Goff, and Hackenberg. Aside from those three and Connor Cook, I'm not sniffing any of the rest before the end of round four. With those four, they all likely go long before the Chiefs pick in round 2 and the only one that'll be close to available in round 1 might be Hackenberg. After those guys you end up with a whole bunch of guys with alot of flaws. The best of what's left is probably Kevin Hogan if a coach can shorten up that delivery of his. After that, its really a craps shoot of bad decision makers mixed with spread offense what ifs. At least we have some knowns with Boykin that point towards NFL potential, and hell, its a 5th round pick. He has the added bonus of maybe transitioning to receiver if he doesn't look like an NFL QB, unless he is boneheaded like Tim Tebow.

Direckshun
11-27-2015, 02:44 PM
Just to quibble a bit with your preface, I think this is the year we see a ton of 2nd round quality QB prospects. Even the supposed "top tier guys" have gigantic holes in their game which don't make them slam-dunk 1st rounders. Goff may be the only exception at this time, but that means (in my premature estimation) a ton of them could easily fall to us towards the bottom of the 1st.

RunKC
11-27-2015, 03:58 PM
I really like your first 3 picks as prospects, especially Jones, who I think will rise to mid to top end of the 2nd rd.

Couple questions:

Why no QB in the first 2 Rds? Are there any you like that high?

Why no CB? I know we have Nelson, but I'd still draft one high with Gaines coming back from an ACL tear.
Hopefully We keep all of our DB's and add more depth.

I think you are on point with This regimes objectives. I think they are gonna be looking hard for another OT early.

kcchiefsus
11-28-2015, 03:44 AM
Let's face it. The Chiefs are never drafting a quarterback. There will be an excuse the following season not to draft one. The insanity continues.

kccrow
11-29-2015, 10:11 AM
It remains an enormous IF that all of Lynch, Goff, and Hackenberg declare as Juniors. All could use development yet as a Senior. IF all three declare, then you have a decent top end to the class. IF not, you have Connor Cook and a whole bunch of nothing. Depending on what happens with this whole situation, I think you could see Hogan and Kessler overdrafted. In either scenario, I don't see any of the top QBs making it into the 20's, where I expect KC to be selecting, with the exception of Hackenberg who I'm not taking in round 1. I'm also not taking Hogan nor Kessler nor any other QB I haven't listed here in round 2. Well MAYBE Hogan, but I need to see more. Far too many significant flaws reserved for 4th to 5th round guys you take a flier on being a capable backup.

As a matter of fact, this draft seems to be very reliant on Junior declarations to make it even remotely worthwhile. It could end up eerily similar to the 2013 draft. I don't think there is enough talent to push teams away from taking QBs early if they do declare.

kccrow
11-29-2015, 10:20 AM
Run, forgot to answer your inquiry about the DBs... Much depends on what the Chiefs can get done in free agency with their own. Retaining both Smith and Berry will be a tough out. I think they'll command similar price tags and the Chiefs are a worse team without Smith than they are without Berry. If I had to make a choice, I'd keep Smith despite the fact I really like Berry.

Like the QB situation, the DB situation is very much the same. You're relying on about 8-10 Juniors to declare to legitimately make up a solid 1st and 2nd round. Hell, this entire draft seems to be that way. I'm scared of it until there are some knowns, to be honest.

GloucesterChief
11-29-2015, 05:18 PM
Marks is going to be a slot/possession receiver in the NFL. He doesn't have blazing speed but runs great routes and is quick. Really good hands too. He is also only about 6'0" and 190 so not really big either.

GloucesterChief
12-06-2015, 08:35 PM
Just as an update. Due to injury Gabe Marks will not be coming out this year.

kccrow
12-06-2015, 09:47 PM
Just as an update. Due to injury Gabe Marks will not be coming out this year.

Was reading about that earlier. Thanks for sharing. Sucks for him, hell of a good player.


Been working on a new one as things unfold. I'll post it here but not entirely sure about it yet...

1. CB Cameron Sutton - Tennessee (Jr.) 6'0" 197
2. OT Kyle Murphy - Stanford (Sr.) 6'7" 300
3. WR Jordan Williams - Ball State (Sr.) 6'2" 224
4. OG Sebastian Tretola - Arkansas (Sr.) 6'5" 334
5. DT Chris Jones - Mississippi State (Sr.) 6'5" 300
5. LB Kyler Fackrell - Utah State (Sr.) 6'5" 250
6. TE Steven Scheu - Vanderbilt (Sr.) 6'5" 245
7. OT Clint Van Horn - Marshall (Sr.) 6'5" 310

RunKC
12-06-2015, 09:49 PM
Lot of good corners this year. It really wouldn't surprise me if they just said fuck it and drafted one in the first 2 rounds.

O.city
12-07-2015, 10:49 AM
I don't think Conklin is that good of a prospect, honestly