Probowl Roster released. Smith not on it

[jjchieffan]

Wow, what a fall. From MVP talk to not making the Popularity, we I mean Probowl. We only have 3. Kelce, Hunt, and Hill. Hill was in as a returner, not a receiver. Steelers have the most with 8

[thegame214]

Phillip Gaines got snubbed

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Smith should have been in, love him or hate him. As should Schwartz, Peters, Houston and possibly Butker or Colquitt.

[carcosa]

Thank u for the info

[Rams Fan]

Pro Bowl means jack shit.

[mcaj22]

Smith will get in as an alternate when all the good players drop due to injury or whatever AFC QB makes the Super Bowl that isnt him

[Deberg_1990]

Hill didn't even do much as a returner this year? What a joke

[staylor26]

Good, I’m sure Tyreek is pissed that people still think he’s a returner/gadget player. Some motivation to come out next year and really shut eveybody the fuck up.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Good, I’m sure Tyreek is pissed that people still think he’s a returner/gadget player. Some motivation to come out next year and really shut eveybody the **** up.

Houston and Peters should be motivated as well. Hopefully Chris Jones is too, although he wasn't really snubbed.

If it motivates them any to kick ass, I'm all for it.

[Rain Man]

Peters, Smith, and Butker all got stiffed. Maybe Houston, too.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Here's to hoping Mahomes gets named to about 10-15 pro bowls and plays in about half of them... :D

[TLO]

0 fucks given

[Valiant]

Smith should have been in, love him or hate him. As should Schwartz, Peters, Houston and possibly Butker or Colquitt.

Generally you need the sexy stats for your position.

Houston tied for 16th in sacks.
Peter's should be in. But KC relapsing hurt his odds.
Same with butker, our offense quit scoring for six weeks and he dropped down the list.

[HemiEd]

It's football news, something to talk about. Ok, done. Haven't watched in years

[RunKC]

Kareem!!!

[RunKC]

The Chiefs have drafted a pro bowl player in 4/5 years of this regime. That’s incredible.

[Ming the Merciless]

Here's to hoping Mahomes gets named to about 10-15 pro bowls and plays in about half of them..NONE of them because we win the superbowl every year. :D

fyp

[redfan]

Gosh darn it, he was close!

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Generally you need the sexy stats for your position.

Houston tied for 16th in sacks.
Peter's should be in. But KC relapsing hurt his odds.
Same with butker, our offense quit scoring for six weeks and he dropped down the list.

Well with Houston I kinda figured the coaches and players would recognize him through film study and get him in, although I knew fans wouldn't vote for him. He's the best edge run defender in football and still gets a lot of pressure on QBs despite the overwhelming amount of time he spends in coverage.

Check out my post in the Houston thread from tonight to see what I mean. He caused two of the interceptions Saturday.

[Hammock Parties]

Suck it, fraud.

[RunKC]

Alex made it as an alternate

[WhawhaWhat]

Don't worry.. Alex will make it when Big Ben or Tom Terrific make the Super Bowl.

[Reerun_KC]

Hard to be involved in the pro bowl when you’re preparing for the super bowl.


MVP ain’t gots time for a pro bowl.

[Ming the Merciless]

too risky

[RunKC]

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[Hammock Parties]

Alex made it as an alternate

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[pugsnotdrugs19]

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Can't believe Schwartz couldn't even get an alternate spot.

[Reerun_KC]

He was there last year killing it in the skills competition.

He put on a QB clinic.

[RealSNR]

What fucking kicker was better than goddamn Harrison fucking Buttfucker this year?

Fucking bullshit.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

No Dee Ford ! Really!

[Flying High D]

It’s rigged. No Mahomes as an alternate.




Because Chiefs

[eDave]

Hard to be involved in the pro bowl when you’re preparing for the super bowl.


MVP ain’t gots time for a pro bowl.

I'm liking this schtick you got going on right now. LOL

[RealSNR]

Seriously. I want to know. Who's a better kicker in the NFL this year than Butker?

Is this a fan vote thing? Because those buttfucking morons would still vote in Martin Gramatica if they fucking could. They're idiots.

[Ming the Merciless]

this is the group of people who are pissed off about alex smith not making the pro bowl:

https://i.imgur.com/VQykvj5.jpg

[Nickhead]

What fucking kicker was better than goddamn Harrison fucking Buttfucker this year?

Fucking bullshit.

herm edwards made the roster ;)

[Rain Man]

Interesting pro bowl trivia:

Number of pro bowl receivers who had fewer receiving yards than Tyreek: 2 (A.J. Green and Larry Fitzgerald)

Number of pro bowl quarterbacks with a lower quarterback rating than Alex Smith: All of them.

Number of pro bowl linebackers with fewer tackles than Justin Houston: 6 - all but one (Chandler Jones, Ryan Kerrigan, Anthony Barr, Von Miller, Jadaveon Clowney, Terrell Suggs)

Number of pro bowl kickers with more points per game played than Harrison Butker: 0.

Number of pro bowl players who are affiliated with murderers: 2 (Von Miller and Maurkice Pouncey)

Number of pro bowl players involved in shootings: 2 (Aqib Talib and Maurkice Pouncey). FYI, the Von Miller murders were all stabbings.

[DaFace]

Seriously. I want to know. Who's a better kicker in the NFL this year than Butker?

Is this a fan vote thing? Because those buttfucking morons would still vote in Martin Gramatica if they fucking could. They're idiots.

Voting with weights to 1/3rd fans, 1/3rd coaches, and 1/3rd players.

[Chiefshrink]

Smith should have been in, love him or hate him. As should Schwartz, Peters, Houston and possibly Butker or Colquitt.

His skid mark in his boxers was too long and why he didn't get in.:D

[Frazod]

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[notorious]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?


ROFL

[notorious]

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This gif brings a tear to my eye. Beautiful. LMAO

[DaFace]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?


ROFL

Maybe it's hard for people to evaluate objectively and instead end up measuring against others on their team. If 3/4ths of the team is shit, it makes the few that are actually good look fantastic.

[Chiefshrink]

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This list would have been in BUT losing the way we did this year just really defecates those chances.

[Reerun_KC]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?





ROFL



The mid to late season collapse says hello!

[Reerun_KC]

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Wow. Perfect

[Cornstock]

I don't recall seeing massive KC fan voting campaign like we've seen in years past. Even though I don't think fan vote is as heavily weighted as it used to be.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

That Shitty's peers find him as useless and boring as I tells me that the world is so right, and the universe aligned perfectly for the Mahomes Era of the 2018 Chiefs.

[carcosa]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?


ROFL

I had forgotten about that. 6 Pro Bowlers for a 2-14 team. lmao

To be fair, one of them was the punter, which makes sense.

[Ragged Robin]

Wait... Phillip Rivers made it??

[chiefzilla1501]

Aj green is an outstanding receiver. But thats a horrible snub to put him as receiver over tyreek. Apart from a few good games, green has been really mediocre. That was clearly a pick based on history, not based on the season the 2 are having.

[suzzer99]

Hill in as a returner shows how stupid and meaningless this is.

[DaNewGuy]

Seriously. I want to know. Who's a better kicker in the NFL this year than Butker?

Is this a fan vote thing? Because those butt****ing morons would still vote in Martin Gramatica if they ****ing could. They're idiots.

Robbie Gould, he had a pretty good year , his team sucks though

[Marcellus]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?


ROFL

Most of the 2013 guys were alternates and I doubt we had 3 starters but yea possibly.

[Gravedigger]

I think it's a pretty big snub. Alex deserved the number 3 spot over Phillip Rivers.

[Dartgod]

I think it's a pretty big snub. Alex deserved the number 3 spot over Phillip Rivers.

I really couldn't care less, because the Pro Bowl in itself is a joke, but Rivers in over Alex is a big snub.

[Frazod]

To be fair, if Rivers plays badly in a crucial game, it doesn’t take him a month to man up and get the fuck over it.

[ptlyon]

Obviously his dodge ball skills came into play here

[raybec 4]

this is the group of people who are pissed off about alex smith not making the pro bowl:

https://i.imgur.com/VQykvj5.jpg

That's cold homie

[BleedingRed]

Hill in as a returner shows how stupid and meaningless this is.

It's dumb AF. Can't wait for Mahomes to put up 1,500 - 10 TD's with him for years to come!

[rabblerouser]

So.....a Chiefs team that went 2-14 had a shitload of probowlers but a team that's going to win the division has....3?


ROFL

You know it.

[Chiefnj2]

Neither Smith nor Rivers deserve it.

[TEX]

I think it's a pretty big snub. Alex deserved the number 3 spot over Phillip Rivers.

No doubt.

[Rasputin]

It's a crime Dustin Colquitt and Butker didn't make it I'm gonna spit I'm so mad.

[RJ]

This lack of Pro Bowl appearances will eventually hurt his first ballot HOF chances.

[Best22]

Whether someone "deserves" a pro bowl bid is somewhat arbitrary because the "field" of quarterbacks changes every year. When Brady threw for 50 TD ten years ago, it made it that much harder for a quarterback to be selected because the bar had been raised, and suddenly a 29 TD, 7 INT year was no longer good enough for 2nd place, but 3rd place.

I don't have a problem with Alex Smith not getting selected. But selecting Rivers over Smith is laughable. Smith swept Rivers and totally outplayed him in the biggest game of the season.

[MahiMike]

Good for us. Don't wanna take a chance on Smith getting hurt in a meaningless game.

[ThaVirus]

You guys do realize the bulk of the Pro Bowl voting took place prior to our game against LAC last weekend?

Rivers was hot at the right time to steal the votes. Combine that with Alex looking like a bag of smashed assholes for like 5-6 weeks and it's not hard to understand.

Tyreek being voted in as a returner pretty much shows you how absurd this shit is anyway.

[Molitoth]

You guys do realize the bulk of the Pro Bowl voting took place prior to our game against LAC last weekend?

Rivers was hot at the right time to steal the votes. Combine that with Alex looking like a bag of smashed assholes for like 5-6 weeks and it's not hard to understand.

Tyreek being voted in as a returner pretty much shows you how absurd this shit is anyway.

This. LOL

[smithandrew051]

Pro Bowl is dumb and meaningless. Fan voting means nothing. Fan voting got Peyton Hillis the Madden cover.

[PAChiefsGuy]

No big deal. Pro Bowl is all for fun anyway and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

[BleedingRed]

Poor guy, about to join the 4k club still gets no credit

[Reerun_KC]

Poor guy, about to join the 4k club still gets no credit



Except when it fits a discussion as last year he was a pro bowl player.

[DaFace]

Hill in as a returner shows how stupid and meaningless this is.

Yep. He's had, what, one good return this year?

[Rain Man]

No big deal. Pro Bowl is all for fun anyway and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

When I was in fourth grade, I was the new kid in my neighborhood. I had a great football that was real leather and stuff, and it was clearly the best football in the neighborhood. At one point a couple of neighborhood kids knocked on my door and said, "Hey, we're going to play football over in the vacant lot." I got a look of joy and anticipation on my face, and they saw it. One of them said, "Actually, we just wanted to borrow your football. But I guess you could play if you wanted."

So it may just be for fun, but you still want to be invited to play.

[The Franchise]

It's fucking bullshit that Hill didn't make it as a WR.

[Frazod]

It's fucking bullshit that Hill didn't make it as a WR.

Jerry Rice in his prime wouldn't make it with Alice throwing him 5 yard outs all the time.

[Black Bob]

I am glad Houston and Peters didn't get in. They didn't deserve it.

[wazu]

Mahomes would’ve made the Pro Bowl.

[Reerun_KC]

Mahomes would’ve made the Pro Bowl.



Mahomes is the pro bowl.

[Ragged Robin]

Jerry Rice in his prime wouldn't make it with Alice throwing him 5 yard outs all the time.

Yes because Hill has been known to catch 5 yard outs all the time this year. Wat.

Poor guy, about to join the 4k club still gets no credit

He might be shy of 4,000 this year because he won't be playing much at all against the Broncos unless they lose this week

[Frazod]

Yes because Hill has been known to catch 5 yard outs all the time this year. Wat.

You seem to be forgetting that period after the Pittsburgh beatdown where Alice essentially curled up in a ball for a month. Everybody's stats kind of suffered a bit.

[Black Bob]

Mahomes is the pro bowl.

Will Never happen

[Ragged Robin]

You seem to be forgetting that period after the Pittsburgh beatdown where Alice essentially curled up in a ball for a month. Everybody's stats kind of suffered a bit.

and yet, as it currently stands, Hill STILL has better stats than AJ Green and Keenan Allen who both made it over him.. I think we've already established that the Pro Bowl isn't really about stats.

[carcosa]

Will Never happen

Pat Mahomes will never be the Pro Bowl????

[Rain Man]

USA Today led off their "pro bowl snubs" article with Alex Smith: https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2017/12/19/2018-pro-bowl-snubs-alex-smith-jordan-howard-among-top-omissions/967636001/

[ptlyon]

When I was in fourth grade, I was the new kid in my neighborhood. I had a great football that was real leather and stuff, and it was clearly the best football in the neighborhood. At one point a couple of neighborhood kids knocked on my door and said, "Hey, we're going to play football over in the vacant lot." I got a look of joy and anticipation on my face, and they saw it. One of them said, "Actually, we just wanted to borrow your football. But I guess you could play if you wanted."

So it may just be for fun, but you still want to be invited to play.

I for one am glad you are out of jail after killing all of them RM

[Pennywise]

I for one am glad you are out of jail after killing all of them RM


LMAO

[Reerun_KC]

Pat Mahomes will never be the Pro Bowl????



Guess. Not. Conspiracy Bob has spoken.

[Rain Man]

I for one am glad you are out of jail after killing all of them RM

I was a juvenile. No one today even knows it happened.

[ptlyon]

I was a juvenile. No one today even knows it happened.

We do

[Rain Man]

We do

I know where you live.

[ptlyon]

I know where you live.

Yeah stop by for a beer sometime! :toast:

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Neither Smith nor Rivers deserve it.

Bullshit. Who does then? Surfer Boy?

[ThaVirus]

I was a juvenile. No one today even knows it happened.


Seems this Von Miller hatred has a more nefarious origin

[OKchiefs]

Will Never happen

Well you're dumb and don't know anything, so...

[chiefzilla1501]

and yet, as it currently stands, Hill STILL has better stats than AJ Green and Keenan Allen who both made it over him.. I think we've already established that the Pro Bowl isn't really about stats.

Yup, and it's not just about stats. It's the eye test too.This has not been a good year for AJ Green. Most of that is because Dalton behind a bad OL is a recipe for disaster. But apart from 2 or 3 games, he's barely been noticeable on the field. Keenan Allen absolutely deserves to be in there. Watch any Chargers game, apart from the KC game... Allen has been a go-to receiver for Rivers. And interestingly, Green's stats are overinflated because the Bengals are constantly playing from behind, Rivers and Allen's #'s are deflated because for the past few months they've been playing with huge leads.

[Rain Man]

Seems this Von Miller hatred has a more nefarious origin

I was in Denver first. Von invaded my turf.

[Easy 6]

Why does anyone care about the pro bowl?

Hell I havent even watched it in 4-5 years, All Pro is the only one that matters

[Frazod]

and yet, as it currently stands, Hill STILL has better stats than AJ Green and Keenan Allen who both made it over him.. I think we've already established that the Pro Bowl isn't really about stats.

Maybe it's about winners and losers. And if you go on a five game losing streak to teams like the Raiders, Giants and Jets, becoming a national punchline for choking jokes in the process, you aren't going to be considered the former.

Hell, we're probably lucky we got three.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Chiefs QB Alex Smith took the high road with regard to being left off the AFC's Pro Bowl team despite being the NFL's top-rated passer. "There (are) a lot of good players,'' said Smith, who is the first alternate."I'm pumped for the guys on this team that did make it. I'm humbled to be a first alternate. These are some good QBs there to be with.'' Smith was passed over in favor of New England's Tom Brady, Pittsburgh's Ben Roethlisberger and Los Angeles' Philip Rivers.

Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill wasn't as diplomatic about QB Alex Smith being left off the Pro Bowl team. "Is this even a question right now? I do feel like Alex did get snubbed. He's a Pro Bowl quarterback . . . The stats are there.''

[Hammock Parties]

Chiefs WR Tyreek Hill wasn't as diplomatic about QB Alex Smith being left off the Pro Bowl team. "Is this even a question right now? I do feel like Alex did get snubbed. He's a Pro Bowl quarterback . . . The stats are there.''

Awww, sorry little buddy.

Hope you don't react too harshly when he's left off your OWN team next year! ROFL

[Easy 6]

Letting fans vote on this just kills its credibility, it renders it worthless

[PAChiefsGuy]

Awww, sorry little buddy.

Hope you don't react too harshly when he's left off your OWN team next year! ROFL

Once again Clay showing what a true Chiefs fan he is.. My post was simply quoting Tyreek 'Speed Freak' Hill sticking up for a teammate. All Clay does is respond by trying to insult Smitty.

Clay sure is a great Chiefs fan!

[Mile High Mania]

Is this really a big deal? Statistically, Alex is 3rd or 4th on all the rankings...

After a 5-0 start, he led a team that won 1 of 7 before winning the last 2.

Starter or alternate, the pro bowl kinda stopped being a big deal a decade ago.

[TEX]

Is this really a big deal? Statistically, Alex is 3rd or 4th on all the rankings...

After a 5-0 start, he led a team that won 1 of 7 before winning the last 2.

Starter or alternate, the pro bowl kinda stopped being a big deal a decade ago.

Regardless, he should have made it over Rivers. No question about it.

[Marcellus]

Is this really a big deal? Statistically, Alex is 3rd or 4th on all the rankings...

After a 5-0 start, he led a team that won 1 of 7 before winning the last 2.

Starter or alternate, the pro bowl kinda stopped being a big deal a decade ago.

There was a time I gave a shit about this stuff, that was a long time ago.

The ProBowl is a popularity contest just like the All Star game.

There is almost a 100% chance he ends up being named as someone drops out, and at least when we go to trade him next year it will be -

"Pro Bowl QB Alex Smith traded to the Denver Broncos for 2 2nd round picks".

I hope the Broncos like him. :D

[Reerun_KC]

Regardless, he should have made it over Rivers. No question about it.



Kinda proves that nobody really gives a shit about game managers.....

[Reerun_KC]

There was a time I gave a shit about this stuff, that was a long time ago.



The ProBowl is a popularity contest just like the All Star game.



There is almost a 100% chance he ends up being named as someone drops out, and at least when we go to trade him next year it will be -



"Pro Bowl QB Alex Smith traded to the Denver Broncos for 2 2nd round picks".



I hope the Broncos like him. :D



Lol. Would be epic.

[Mile High Mania]

Regardless, he should have made it over Rivers. No question about it.

I dunno, not like it's a slam dunk debate either way... both will end up playing it anyway.

[TEX]

I dunno, not like it's a slam dunk debate either way... both will end up playing it anyway.

It is a slam dunk. Look at the numbers for both THIS season. Smith beats him in almost all categories. Also he bested Rivers twice head-to-head. I'm NOT a smith Fan, but you're Bronco bitterness towards KC shows big time here.

[Mile High Mania]

It is a slam dunk. Look at the numbers for both THIS season. Smith beats him in almost all categories. Also he bested Rivers twice head-to-head. I'm NOT a smith Fan, but you're Bronco bitterness towards KC shows big time here.

Um, no. I just purely looked at stat lines and honestly, a case could be made for whichever player was snubbed.

[Nickel D]

Anyone who can't throw a 7-yard pass on the run accurately enough to an open Kareem Hunt in the end zone for a completion should spend at least their entire Pro Bowl week learning how to do so. And keep in mind that this same QB had made dozens of these inaccurate passes over the course of this season alone which have either had no chance of being completed or only been completed because the receivers made incredible moves/adjustments to get their hands on the wayward ball.

[Marcellus]

8. Alex Smith, QB, Kansas City Chiefs: Smith is sixth in the league in passing, with a better season on paper than Drew Brees and a more efficient season than Philip Rivers. He only threw five interceptions but, because of Kansas City’s hot start, was penalized for the team’s mid-season slump which was not his doing. I have little doubt Smith will end up in Orlando anyway if he’s not playing in the Super Bowl.

LMAO

[Rain Man]

Letting fans vote on this just kills its credibility, it renders it worthless

The league says that they want parity, but stuff like this works against it. You're more likely to make the pro bowl if you're on a team that gets followed by brainless bandwagon fans who'll vote for some Steelers CB over Marcus Peters, and that gives them an advantage in free agency. And they only get the advantage in the first place because they're winning, or otherwise the brainless bandwagon fans would buy caps and jerseys from some other team.

[Mile High Mania]

The league says that they want parity, but stuff like this works against it. You're more likely to make the pro bowl if you're on a team that gets followed by brainless bandwagon fans who'll vote for some Steelers CB over Marcus Peters, and that gives them an advantage in free agency. And they only get the advantage in the first place because they're winning, or otherwise the brainless bandwagon fans would buy caps and jerseys from some other team.

Way too much time debating it really... teams that go on stretches of losing 6 ouf 7 just won't have that many pro bowlers. Fans don't watch those teams. Not a "KC jab", just saying.

[Reerun_KC]

LMAO



If smith is playing in the super bowl. I’ll take a perma bam from here.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Way too much time debating it really... teams that go on stretches of losing 6 ouf 7 just won't have that many pro bowlers. Fans don't watch those teams. Not a "KC jab", just saying.

They'll watch them in the playoffs, including you and your Donkey squad. :)

[Marcellus]

If smith is playing in the super bowl. I’ll take a perma bam from here.

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[Easy 6]

The league says that they want parity, but stuff like this works against it. You're more likely to make the pro bowl if you're on a team that gets followed by brainless bandwagon fans who'll vote for some Steelers CB over Marcus Peters, and that gives them an advantage in free agency. And they only get the advantage in the first place because they're winning, or otherwise the brainless bandwagon fans would buy caps and jerseys from some other team.

Pretty much

[Mile High Mania]

They'll watch them in the playoffs, including you and your Donkey squad. :)

For a week, at least. You know what I'm saying though... aside from your marquee teams, the casual fan isn't going to tune into a team in the middle of a 4 game losing streak.

[Reerun_KC]

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Book mark it. LOL.