2019 NFL Combine Thread

[Chief Northman]

Meh.

Vertical routes and a high pointer. Stiff out of breaks and a limited route tree. Metcalf is a specimen, but has a lot to be desired with regards to being a complete receiver.

[Coogs]

David Boston all over again?

[Kiimo]

Why has CP convinced themselves we need a tight end

[BossChief]

Why has CP convinced themselves we need a tight end

Because we only have 1 under contract and Andy uses 2 consistently in his offensive game plans.

[Buehler445]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/MemphisFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MemphisFB</a> RB Darrell Henderson runs a 4.36u 40-yard dash!<br><br>��: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/3LUFpwcs1u">pic.twitter.com/3LUFpwcs1u</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1101561935227629568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Because we only have 1 under contract and Andy uses 2 consistently in his offensive game plans.
And the one we have takes abuse and is getting older.

[In58men]

4.33

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/9e4098cd40419adcd51823f650306585.jpg

Holy shit!!!!

It would be insane if Pat convinced Veach to draft him.

[Kiimo]

We don’t need to draft a tight end with the first pick cmon. I saw the thread and disagreed. We can’t waste another top pick on anything other than DB.

[BryanBusby]

Some dumbass team is taking him in the top 10 and will ignore his dickhands, crooked neck and the fact he has no idea how to play WR.

[DJ's left nut]

Some dumbass team is taking him in the top 10 and will ignore his dickhands, crooked neck and the fact he has no idea how to play WR.

This is specifically why God created the New York Jets...

[DJ's left nut]

Why has CP convinced themselves we need a tight end

Because I'm very persuasive...:harumph:

[Chief Northman]

Some dumbass team is taking him in the top 10 and will ignore his dickhands, crooked neck and the fact he has no idea how to play WR.

Heh.

[BryanBusby]

This is specifically why God created the New York Jets...
Yeah, I can see the Jets doing it.

[CoMoChief]

damn DK ran himself into a top 10 pick.

[DJ's left nut]

Yeah, I can see the Jets doing it.

Has anyone checked Al Davis's grave?

That workout might have been enough to bring him out of it...

[Buckweath]

We don’t need to draft a tight end with the first pick cmon. I saw the thread and disagreed. We can’t waste another top pick on anything other than DB.

You are correct sir. I guess a top LB is also a possibility.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Allow me to take a break from the weight room to run a 4.33 40 at 6-3 and 228 pounds.” - D.K. Metcalf. <a href="https://t.co/xOL3QrG9Xk">pic.twitter.com/xOL3QrG9Xk</a></p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1101937124264288258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[scho63]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Allow me to take a break from the weight room to run a 4.33 40 at 6-3 and 228 pounds.” - D.K. Metcalf. <a href="https://t.co/xOL3QrG9Xk">pic.twitter.com/xOL3QrG9Xk</a></p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1101937124264288258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Aren't these the two brothers who tried to lynch Jessie? :hmmm:

[TambaBerry]

He responded to mahomes saying hopefully they can be teammates one day

[Tribal Warfare]

He responded to mahomes saying hopefully they can be teammates one day

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[DJ's left nut]

So this quarterback class sucks dicks, doesn't it?

They ALL look terrible today, IMO.

[In58men]

He responded to mahomes saying hopefully they can be teammates one day

Liar

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Clemson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Clemson</a> DL Dexter Lawrence has met with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and LB Dorian O&#39;Daniel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraftNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraftNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/nml8jGfJGB">pic.twitter.com/nml8jGfJGB</a></p>&mdash; Robert Rimpson (@RRimpsanity) <a href="https://twitter.com/RRimpsanity/status/1101944881512153090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Bump]

We don’t need to draft a tight end with the first pick cmon. I saw the thread and disagreed. We can’t waste another top pick on anything other than DB.

I'd rather get a stud on offense than reach for a DB in the first. Getting someone that can help out now is better than reaching for a Javier Arenas or William Bartee or something like that.

With that being said, if there is a stud defensive player and a stud offensive player and both are about equal value for the pick, then you take the defense.

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Clemson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Clemson</a> DL Dexter Lawrence has met with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and LB Dorian O&#39;Daniel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraftNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraftNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/nml8jGfJGB">pic.twitter.com/nml8jGfJGB</a></p>&mdash; Robert Rimpson (@RRimpsanity) <a href="https://twitter.com/RRimpsanity/status/1101944881512153090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Wait, so they brought DOD just to meet with him?

[Chief Northman]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Clemson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Clemson</a> DL Dexter Lawrence has met with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and LB Dorian O&#39;Daniel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraftNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraftNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/nml8jGfJGB">pic.twitter.com/nml8jGfJGB</a></p>&mdash; Robert Rimpson (@RRimpsanity) <a href="https://twitter.com/RRimpsanity/status/1101944881512153090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Dexter would keep our linebackers squeaky clean. Monster in the middle.

[GloucesterChief]

I'd rather get a stud on offense than reach for a DB in the first. Getting someone that can help out now is better than reaching for a Javier Arenas or William Bartee or something like that.

With that being said, if there is a stud defensive player and a stud offensive player and both are about equal value for the pick, then you take the defense.

If we go offense. I want Hakeem Butler to be the jump ball WR that can simply beat up and out jump smaller DBs. Not in the first round though.

[T-post Tom]

D.K. Metcalf ... DAMN!

[The Franchise]

We should draft Miles Boykin.

[Tribal Warfare]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Love you lil brudda continue to shock the world!! <a href="https://t.co/KzZL39If8S">https://t.co/KzZL39If8S</a></p>&mdash; Charcandrick West (@Charcandrick26) <a href="https://twitter.com/Charcandrick26/status/1101962290088284160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[Buehler445]

Wait, so they brought DOD just to meet with him?

I’m guessing it was a brohug then out.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Love you lil brudda continue to shock the world!! <a href="https://t.co/KzZL39If8S">https://t.co/KzZL39If8S</a></p>&mdash; Charcandrick West (@Charcandrick26) <a href="https://twitter.com/Charcandrick26/status/1101962290088284160?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tell West to tell him to smoke pot on camera right before the draft. He needs to fall to us.

[Chiefaholic]

Aren't these the two brothers who tried to lynch Jessie? :hmmm:

ROFL

[Chiefaholic]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Allow me to take a break from the weight room to run a 4.33 40 at 6-3 and 228 pounds.” - D.K. Metcalf. <a href="https://t.co/xOL3QrG9Xk">pic.twitter.com/xOL3QrG9Xk</a></p>&mdash; Field Yates (@FieldYates) <a href="https://twitter.com/FieldYates/status/1101937124264288258?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

So he's a faster, taller, and heavier version of David Boston?

[MahiMike]

Aren't these the two brothers who tried to lynch Jessie? :hmmm:

You beat me to it. LOL.

[Tribal Warfare]

So he's a faster, taller, and heavier version of David Boston?

a more ripped Quintarus Jones

[JD10367]

So this quarterback class sucks dicks, doesn't it?

They ALL look terrible today, IMO.

Bucky Brooks thinks Drew Lock looked good. But, then again, it's Bucky Brooks.

Not sure I like Kyler Murray's decision not to throw. The buzz is that he's heading up the draft chart, possibly to #1, which is absurd. While I think his height is not the detriment it used to be in the NFL (what with today's mobile passing game), he IS a little short, there are questions about his handspan, and now he's not even going to show what he can do. I would've loved to see the Pats snag him at #32 because I think that would've been a decent value-to-upside risk, but I can't see him going #1.

[Munson]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Clemson?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Clemson</a> DL Dexter Lawrence has met with the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> and LB Dorian O&#39;Daniel <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraftNews?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraftNews</a> <a href="https://t.co/nml8jGfJGB">pic.twitter.com/nml8jGfJGB</a></p>&mdash; Robert Rimpson (@RRimpsanity) <a href="https://twitter.com/RRimpsanity/status/1101944881512153090?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Where is this guy projected to go?

[Tribal Warfare]

Where is this guy projected to go?

1st round to early 2nd round

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Where is this guy projected to go?

If he’s there you take him!! This guy is a bonafide beast!

[Munson]

If he’s there you take him!! This guy is a bonafide beast!

I wouldn't be disappointed.

We could use a 6'4" 350 lb beast next to Chris Jones.

[gonefishin53]

Alex Barnes, RB, Kansas St., 6'3/8'', 226 lbs, 4.59 40, 34 reps, 38.5 vert, 10'6'' broad, 4.1 sec shuttle, 6.95 3 cone at the combine. 5.7 yards/rush, 2616 rushing yards and 25 rushing tds in 3 years at Kansas St. For his size he shows decent speed, good explosion, and great agility numbers with good production in college. Currently rated day 3 pick or UDFA.

[RunKC]

DL first rd.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">What’s the strength of this Draft? Without question, it’s the DL. Those workouts will start at the top of the hour on NFL Network. This is going to be fun!</p>&mdash; Daniel Jeremiah (@MoveTheSticks) <a href="https://twitter.com/MoveTheSticks/status/1102205051907518464?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[synthesis2]

as a ASU alumni and watching every sun devils game this year I would be very happy if we landed N'Keal Harry. If we got him in the first or traded seconds or a second and third to move up to the top of the second to get it.

This guy is fairly fast but not Hill by any means but has hands and makes catches like Odell all the time. Just saying I'd rather get an impact Defensive player but if we picked him up he would be an instant starter on the team.

[Chief Northman]

as a ASU alumni and watching every sun devils game this year I would be very happy if we landed N'Keal Harry. If we got him in the first or traded seconds or a second and third to move up to the top of the second to get it.

This guy is fairly fast but not Hill by any means but has hands and makes catches like Odell all the time. Just saying I'd rather get an impact Defensive player but if we picked him up he would be an instant starter on the team.

If the Chiefs target a “big” receiver, Harry should be the guy. His ball tracking is phenomenal and he has great hands. He has excellent downfield vision and is more fluid in the open field after the catch than most would assume. More developed route tree than the other “bigs” in this draft. He likes to compete - you can see this on the field and in how he plays.

[DJ's left nut]

I wouldn't be disappointed.

We could use a 6'4" 350 lb beast next to Chris Jones.

Lawrence pulled up lame during his 40.

I think he'd be more of a SDE in the this scheme. It's just awfully hard to know for sure.

Keep an eye on John Cominsky in this thing. Very possibly this year's out of nowhere combine warrior. He'd be a damn intriguing 3rd day flyer if you thought you could coach him up.

[RunKC]

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EDGE Montez Sweat (260 lbs, 35 3/4 arms) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MississippiState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MississippiState</a><br><br>40: 4.42<br>10: 1.55<br><br>Context: Odell Beckham had a 4.43 and 1.57. Remarkable times.</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1102243652900917253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[TambaBerry]

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EDGE Montez Sweat (260 lbs, 35 3/4 arms) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MississippiState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MississippiState</a><br><br>40: 4.42<br>10: 1.55<br><br>Context: Odell Beckham had a 4.43 and 1.57. Remarkable times.</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1102243652900917253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I've wanted this guy bad but no chance he makes it to us

[In58men]

Holy shit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">EDGE Montez Sweat (260 lbs, 35 3/4 arms) <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/MississippiState?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#MississippiState</a><br><br>40: 4.42<br>10: 1.55<br><br>Context: Odell Beckham had a 4.43 and 1.57. Remarkable times.</p>&mdash; Dane Brugler (@dpbrugler) <a href="https://twitter.com/dpbrugler/status/1102243652900917253?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Some context on DE Montez Sweat’s 4.42 at 260 pounds:

Amari Cooper 4.42
Julio Jones 4.42
Odell Beckham Jr. 4.43
A.J. Green 4.49
Michael Thomas 4.57
Antonio Brown 4.57

[RunKC]

Von Miller ran a 1.59 10 second time. Sweat’s 1.55 is incredible in comparison.

This guy is gonna be a top 10 pick. Maybe top 5.

[The Franchise]

Trade Ford and Houston.....use some of those picks o move up for Sweat.

Speaks - Nnadi - Jones - Sweat

Profit.

[Chief Northman]

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but given all the off the chart measurables, you would think Sweat would be more productive and show up more in big situations against better competition. Limited pass rush moves and has trouble shedding at times.

Bosa, Allen, Polite, Gary and even Burns have more upside off the edge.

[DJ's left nut]

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but given all the off the chart measurables, you would think Sweat would be more productive and show up more in big situations against better competition. Limited pass rush moves and has trouble shedding at times.

Bosa, Allen, Polite, Gary and even Burns have more upside off the edge.

Yeah, learn to lean or you're just Margus Hunt...

Sweat's intriguing but I'm not sold on him.

[Chris Meck]

Not trying to be a Debbie Downer, but given all the off the chart measurables, you would think Sweat would be more productive and show up more in big situations against better competition. Limited pass rush moves and has trouble shedding at times.

Bosa, Allen, Polite, Gary and even Burns have more upside off the edge.


Ain't gonna matter for the Chiefs. He'll be long gone. Although it might; he'll probably be a Raider.

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

Beckner slow as fuck

[Rudy tossed tigger's salad]

So he's a faster, taller, and heavier version of David Boston?

Too big. You know just know he's gonna have route-running and flexibility issues.

Put this monster on defense.

[Coach]

So far, some of these LB'ers are slow. At best (for now) is a 4.67, unofficially.

Then Ben Burr-Kirven clocks a 4.57.

[Coach]

I see you now Devon Bush. Very impressive time.

[staylor26]

Supposedly, Kingsbury is telling people Murray at #1 is a done deal

[DJ's left nut]

So far, some of these LB'ers are slow. At best (for now) is a 4.67, unofficially.

Then Ben Burr-Kirven clocks a 4.57.

Burr-Kiven is a real nice fallback option for DoD, IMO. Maybe not the ceiling that O'Daniel has but a higher floor; very smart player.

I don't think he'll last to the 5th but if he did, I'd take him and have him there as a fallback option for DoD at the Will if O'Daniel can't make the transition. I've been a fan of his for a few weeks since I started snooping around on this draft.

[DJ's left nut]

Too big. You know just know he's gonna have route-running and flexibility issues.

Put this monster on defense.

Teach the guy to block and put him at TE.

I just don't see how he can run a complete route tree. My concern when we drafted Conley was that his 3-cone was just absolute dog-shit and I didn't know how he could fit in this offense because he was bad in and out of his breaks.

Okay, as badly as Conley's time was (very bad; a 7.06; bottom 1/4 of WR's historically) - Metcalf's was shockingly so. Metcalf ran a 7.38. I'm serious when I say that there are people on this board that can beat that time. I think I could. That's horrifyingly awful. It's one of the 10 worst 3-cone times run by a WR in 20 years.

Now...if you're making a counter-argument you'd argue that the 2nd worst time run over that period was Jarvis Landry and Landry is plenty quick in and out of his cuts. Maybe Metcalf just had a bad day.

But do you really believe that? Because with that build, there's just no way for him to be as agile as this system demands.

This 'new Julio' stuff needs to end. He ain't Julio Jones for a couple of very critical reasons.

I don't think I'd take him even if he fell to 29.

[Coach]

Burr-Kiven is a real nice fallback option for DoD, IMO. Maybe not the ceiling that O'Daniel has but a higher floor; very smart player.

I don't think he'll last to the 5th but if he did, I'd take him and have him there as a fallback option for DoD at the Will if O'Daniel can't make the transition. I've been a fan of his for a few weeks since I started snooping around on this draft.

I just think the way the game is changing in terms of rules favoring offensive players, that the defensive LB'ers need to have speed to counter those mis-directions, middle crossing routes, and is able to go sideline to sideline.

I would feel much more comfortable drafting a guy who runs under 4.6, compared to some guys who's clocking at 4.7 or above.

Yet, at the same time, I also realize the open field tackling should also be important, considering how offenses try to attack open space, and how bad Kansas City struggled at that department last year. So, I'm hoping that somehow KC can find a LB who can run a 4.6 or better and is able to, you know, actually tackle.

[The Franchise]

Devin White with a 4.42. Fuck.

[DJ's left nut]

Devin White just clocked a 4.42.

Fuuuuuuuuck.

That guy is just a monster and a prototype for what this defense needs. Love the dude. He's a stronger, more athletic Devin Bush with a better feel for the football. Bush is a guided missile but White is simply a do everything LB who runs like a WR.

[The Franchise]

Pratt with a 4.58 is good enough for me though.

Pratt at SLB, Hitchens at MLB and DOD at WLB.

[The Franchise]

Devin White just clocked a 4.42.

Fuuuuuuuuck.

That guy is just a monster and a prototype for what this defense needs. Love the dude. He's a stronger, more athletic Devin Bush with a better feel for the football. Bush is a guided missile but White is simply a do everything LB who runs like a WR.

And Charcandrick West is his cousin.

[Coach]

Teach the guy to block and put him at TE.

I just don't see how he can run a complete route tree. My concern when we drafted Conley was that his 3-cone was just absolute dog-shit and I didn't know how he could fit in this offense because he was bad in and out of his breaks.

Okay, as badly as Conley's time was (very bad; a 7.06; bottom 1/4 of WR's historically) - Metcalf's was shockingly so. Metcalf ran a 7.38. I'm serious when I say that there are people on this board that can beat that time. I think I could. That's horrifyingly awful. It's one of the 10 worst 3-cone times run by a WR in 20 years.

Now...if you're making a counter-argument you'd argue that the 2nd worst time run over that period was Jarvis Landry and Landry is plenty quick in and out of his cuts. Maybe Metcalf just had a bad day.

But do you really believe that? Because with that build, there's just no way for him to be as agile as this system demands.

This 'new Julio' stuff needs to end. He ain't Julio Jones for a couple of very critical reasons.

I don't think I'd take him even if he fell to 29.

I wouldn't either. I'd rather find guys that is a poor man Tyreek Hill.

[DJ's left nut]

Pratt with a 4.58 is good enough for me though.

Pratt at SLB, Hitchens at MLB and DOD at WLB.

Would you use a 3 on Pratt?

I don't think he'll see the 5th. Would you rather a 3 on Pratt or a 2 on Walker? Or do you think either are realistic possibilities?

I'm not using a 2 on Pratt.

[The Franchise]

Teach the guy to block and put him at TE.

I just don't see how he can run a complete route tree. My concern when we drafted Conley was that his 3-cone was just absolute dog-shit and I didn't know how he could fit in this offense because he was bad in and out of his breaks.

Okay, as badly as Conley's time was (very bad; a 7.06; bottom 1/4 of WR's historically) - Metcalf's was shockingly so. Metcalf ran a 7.38. I'm serious when I say that there are people on this board that can beat that time. I think I could. That's horrifyingly awful. It's one of the 10 worst 3-cone times run by a WR in 20 years.

Now...if you're making a counter-argument you'd argue that the 2nd worst time run over that period was Jarvis Landry and Landry is plenty quick in and out of his cuts. Maybe Metcalf just had a bad day.

But do you really believe that? Because with that build, there's just no way for him to be as agile as this system demands.

This 'new Julio' stuff needs to end. He ain't Julio Jones for a couple of very critical reasons.

I don't think I'd take him even if he fell to 29.

I’d rather draft Miles Boykin.

[warrior]

Pratt with a 4.58 is good enough for me though.

Pratt at SLB, Hitchens at MLB and DOD at WLB.



Yep-like how you're thinking

[The Franchise]

Would you use a 3 on Pratt?

I don't think he'll see the 5th. Would you rather a 3 on Pratt or a 2 on Walker? Or do you think either are realistic possibilities?

I'm not using a 2 on Pratt.

I’d spend a 3 on him, yeah. Not sure I’d go a 2nd.

[DJ's left nut]

I wouldn't either. I'd rather find guys that is a poor man Tyreek Hill.

Mecole Hardman.

Andy Isabella is your man, but he's probably working himself into 1st round consideration and likely gone by the late 2nd. I really like Riley Ridley but he's also probably off the board at the end of the 2nd (and more of a poor man's Watkins than a poor man's Hill).

Hardman could easily be there in the 5th and has a LOT of potential. Now he may never reach any of it, but that's your poor man's Hill in this draft, IMO.

[DJ's left nut]

I’d spend a 3 on him, yeah. Not sure I’d go a 2nd.

I'd rather use a 2 on Walker but I could probably justify the 3 on Pratt.

[staylor26]

DJ, apparently you missed Ridley’s 7.22 3 cone?

[O.city]

Well lb 1 and 2 are locked in now

Would love to be able to get one of them

[Coach]

Mecole Hardman.

Andy Isabella is your man, but he's probably working himself into 1st round consideration and likely gone by the late 2nd. I really like Riley Ridley but he's also probably off the board at the end of the 2nd (and more of a poor man's Watkins than a poor man's Hill).

Hardman could easily be there in the 5th and has a LOT of potential. Now he may never reach any of it, but that's your poor man's Hill in this draft, IMO.

For the first 2 rounds, I'd go defense, but that's just me. I'm thinking if Hardman is there in Day 3, one has to snag him up, because Conley just isn't the answer to this offense.

He played QB in his HS years, so he'd at least have some understanding in that area, and he played as a CB in his FR year, before transitioning to WR. So yes, raw, but the potential is definitely there.

I didn't see his 20 yard and 3 cone drills. What were those results for Hardman?

[staylor26]

Gary Johnson is going to climb up boards after his time

[DJ's left nut]

DJ, apparently you missed Ridley’s 7.22 3 cone?

I did.

Damn - that sucks. I gotta say, that surprises the hell out of me because he looks a damn lot smoother than that.

That's a guy where I am more inclined to consider the possibility that he just had a bad day, but he'd better get that to at least the low 7s by his pro day.

I just have a hard time talking myself into anybody with a 3-cone over 7 as being viable in this system. That's not a bright line rule for me, but it sure does make me take some pause.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Well lb 1 and 2 are locked in now

Would love to be able to get one of them

White will be long gone, Bush may be there but doubtful

[DJ's left nut]

For the first 2 rounds, I'd go defense, but that's just me. I'm thinking if Hardman is there in Day 3, one has to snag him up, because Conley just isn't the answer to this offense.

He played QB in his HS years, so he'd at least have some understanding in that area, and he played as a CB in his FR year, before transitioning to WR. So yes, raw, but the potential is definitely there.

I didn't see his 20 yard and 3 cone drills. What were those results for Hardman?

I don't think Hardman ran the 3-cone.

[Coach]

I don't think Hardman ran the 3-cone.

I wondered if he did or not, because I couldn't find the results online. Sure would have liked to know what it was.

Oh well, hopefully he'll be able to do it on his pro-day.

[DJ's left nut]

If you're a scout and you're watching White do that on-field cone drill, you have stand there with your clipboard over your crotch like an awkward middle-schooler, don't you?

[ntexascardfan]

Gary Johnson is going to climb up boards after his time

Gary has a 4.36-7 in him.

He's a 10.5 100 guy in track.

[RunKC]

Gary Johnson is only 226 lbs and did 16 bench reps? We already have that player on our roster.

DOD is that guy.

[ntexascardfan]

Gary Johnson is only 226 lbs and did 16 bench reps? We already have that player on our roster.

DOD is that guy.

I'm a big Gary Johnson fan, but Kendall Joseph is the guy I'd like to draft to come in and push DoD a bit.

DoD's weakness is his instincts, Joseph is probably one of the most instinctual LBs in the draft who could come in and play the will.

[RunKC]

Jerry Tillery is the next Chris Jones. I want that motherfucker in KC!

196. #NotreDame DT Jerry Tillery
Height: 6-6 4/8
Weight: 295
Hand: 10 5/8
Arm: 34 2/8
Wingspan: 81

40-4.93
Bench-23

[CoMoChief]

Montez Sweat......jfc :eek:

[The Franchise]

Jerry Tillery is the next Chris Jones. I want that motherfucker in KC!

196. #NotreDame DT Jerry Tillery
Height: 6-6 4/8
Weight: 295
Hand: 10 5/8
Arm: 34 2/8
Wingspan: 81

40-4.93
Bench-23

If we can get him in the 2nd....I’m all for it.

[RunKC]

Jerry Tillery is the next Chris Jones. I want that mother****er in KC!

196. #NotreDame DT Jerry Tillery
Height: 6-6 4/8
Weight: 295
Hand: 10 5/8
Arm: 34 2/8
Wingspan: 81

40-4.93
Bench-23

Dude just ran the 3 cone.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">7.45 3-cone for Jerry Tillery.</p>&mdash; Marcus Mosher (@Marcus_Mosher) <a href="https://twitter.com/Marcus_Mosher/status/1102294384408739840?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Chris Jones 3 cone was 7.44.

[DJ's left nut]

I've liked the idea of Tillery in the 2nd for awhile now. Would like to have seen that bench be a little higher for him but that's not uncommon for those taller guys. Has some motor and 'love of football' questions that seemed to plague him at ND.

That's what made me nervous about Jones and he seems to have figured it out. I wouldn't be opposed to bringing Tillery in the 2nd and trying the Jones model again...

[O.city]

Can you play Jones and tillery together though?

[RunKC]

Can you play Jones and tillery together though?

Yeah as much as I love the guy, he probably isn’t high on our board simply bc we have that guy already in Jones, plus Nnandi was a very good draft pick.

Makes me wonder if they are wanting more guys exclusively at DE.

[In58men]

The position we draft is based on what we do in FA.

Hot take

[DJ's left nut]

Can you play Jones and tillery together though?

Not next to him, no.

But at 6'6'' with a plus wingspan and solid get-off, you could play Tillery at SDE. Tillery, while under the radar right now, is in a lot of ways more explosive than Jones. If you can play Jones at DE (as some have suggested), you could almost certainly play Tillery there.

Hell, you could do a damn interesting 3-2-6 sub-package with BOTH Tillery and Jones as the ends. Williams is probably better suited to the be the DT there because you're probably looking at passing situations there and Williams isn't bad at getting upfield in those spots.

[The Franchise]

And if Jones prices himself out of your plans....you already have his replacement.

[BryanBusby]

I don't think Tillery is going to be someone they are going to target.

[RunKC]

Not next to him, no.

But at 6'6'' with a plus wingspan and solid get-off, you could play Tillery at SDE. Tillery, while under the radar right now, is in a lot of ways more explosive than Jones. If you can play Jones at DE (as some have suggested), you could almost certainly play Tillery there.

Hell, you could do a damn interesting 3-2-6 sub-package with BOTH Tillery and Jones as the ends. Williams is probably better suited to the be the DT there because you're probably looking at passing situations there and Williams isn't bad at getting upfield in those spots.

Grunhard mentioned that he thinks Jones can and should play a lot of DE under Spags. Tillery also makes sense with what Andy said a few months ago about interior pressure being so valuable due to less distance to the QB.

Grunhard also mentioned Tillery, which is no surprise since that’s his alma mater. I guess it depends on how Spags is going to play Jones.

Either way I think Tillery would flourish here.

[TambaBerry]

It would be pretty stupid to move a guy who had what 15 sacks on the interior to a DE

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Elite interior pass rushers are freakin’ unicorns in the NFL. You don’t mess with that IMO.

Sure, you can play some games here and there, but Jones is a true 3T with outside versatility from time to time.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Sounds like the Chiefs really like Joejuan Williams. https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1102319393818714112?s=21

He says that they told him they plan to play a lot of single high safety looks and having a long press style corner like him would be a great fit.

[jdubya]

First few picks continue to get interesting...

https://twitter.com/JoshNorris/status/1101862591771697152?s=19

"Murray going #1 to Cards"

[Kyle DeLexus]

The position we draft is based on what we do in FA.

Hot take

You need a name change to In59men because you just fucked walterfootball with that take.

[RunKC]

Kingsbury telling people this?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Sunday Combine Notes: Kliff Kingsbury telling people it’s a “done deal” the Cardinals will select Kyler Murray with the first pick of the draft. Plenty more here -&gt; <a href="https://t.co/Tke8GyScfm">https://t.co/Tke8GyScfm</a> <a href="https://t.co/MqVy9MpTUt">pic.twitter.com/MqVy9MpTUt</a></p>&mdash; Tony Pauline (@TonyPauline) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/1102234607930523648?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[BossChief]

Trying to get someone to trade?...or legit?

[jdubya]

There are a handful of elite canidates in the top 3-5 picks without QB`s in the mix. If this is true, projected #1 and #2 picks may be available at 3,4,and 5......

[TambaBerry]

There are a handful of elite canidates in the top 3-5 picks without QB`s in the mix. If this is true, projected #1 and #2 picks may be available at 3,4,and 5......

If he goes number one that might make some teams desperate for qbs to take one which will drop players lower to us

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

I want Veach to try and trade up in the top 5 to get a Ed Oliver or Josh Allen

[Coogs]

I want Veach to try and trade up in the top 5 to get a Ed Oliver or Josh Allen

From 29? That would be hella steep price.

[RunKC]

How we feelin about this guy? First rd material?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> key measurements thread…<br><br>298. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vanderbilt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vanderbilt</a> CB Joejuan Williams<br>Height: 6-3 5/8<br>Weight: 211<br>Hand: 9 6/8<br>Arm: 32 4/8<br>Wingspan: 78</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1101844783432196096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Looks like we are interested.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vanderbilt CB Joejuan Williams said he’s had both formal and informal meetings with the Chiefs and they went really well. I’ll have more on that later.</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1102317991453175810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[TambaBerry]

Have to wait for agility and 40 times to take place

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I want Veach to try and trade up in the top 5 to get a Ed Oliver or Josh Allen

Lmao you know how much that would require???

Getting from 27 to 10 for Mahomes wasn’t cheap.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Looks like we are interested.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vanderbilt CB Joejuan Williams said he’s had both formal and informal meetings with the Chiefs and they went really well. I’ll have more on that later.</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1102317991453175810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Posted a video of him talking Chiefs just a bit above yours

[DJ's left nut]

I like Joejuan with one of those 2nds.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I like Joejuan with one of those 2nds.

Yeah, but you can bet that if he tests well, it’s highly unlikely he makes it to 61. Even Daniel Jeremiah has speculated to this point that he might end up being the best CB in the draft long term.

He might be the perfect fit in this defense, so if they love him, I’d say move up from 61 or even consider him at 29 depending on how the board shapes up.

[The Franchise]

If we could pull Adderley at 29 and then trade up in the 2nd for Williams....I’m good.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Lmao you know how much that would require???

Getting from 27 to 10 for Mahomes wasn’t cheap.

The Jets would be a perfect place. Trade them Houston and our first and one of our seconds in exchange for their first round pick

[Hammock Parties]

ugh...DK is going to be a Raider

[SAUTO]

I like Joejuan with one of those 2nds.

I love that name lol

[The Franchise]

ugh...DK is going to be a Raider

Not unless they take him with the #4 pick.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

ugh...DK is going to be a Raider

Good.

He’s got Chris Conley written all over him (but better obviously). No way he runs good routes.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Idk if it’s been posted but Montez Sweat has a visit scheduled with the Chiefs

[In58men]

Idk if it’s been posted but Montez Sweat has a visit scheduled with the Chiefs

You know the drill....

Source?

[TribalElder]

ugh...DK is going to be a Raider

Receivers require a qb to be relevant

Not concerned

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

You know the drill....

Source?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">6&#39;6<br>260 lbs.<br>4.41 seconds in the 40-yard dash?<br>Meet the defensive lineman who is set to visit the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a>. <a href="https://t.co/KmkihQgf7S">https://t.co/KmkihQgf7S</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Addict (@ArrowheadAddict) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadAddict/status/1102283689776594946?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

“As for the Kansas City Chiefs, Sweat has an official meeting formally scheduled with the team, and the need is certainly there, especially if rumors come true that the Chiefs are open to trading either Justin Houston or Dee Ford this offseason”.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">DL Montez Sweat (former teammate with Chris Jones) has an official meeting with the Chiefs</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1101922992605544450?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[RunKC]

ugh...DK is going to be a Raider

God I hope so

Tom Brady: 7.2 cone, 4.38 shuttle
DK Metcalf: 7.38 cone, 4.5 shuttle

LMAO

[SAUTO]

God I hope so

Tom Brady: 7.2 cone, 4.38 shuttle
DK Metcalf: 7.38 cone, 4.5 shuttle

LMAO
ROFL

[O.city]

Where is Brian Burns projected to go?

He looks like a nice fit

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Where is Brian Burns projected to go?

He looks like a nice fit

Mel Kiper has him at #16 to the Panthers

[The Franchise]

Where is Brian Burns projected to go?

He looks like a nice fit

I’ve seen him anywhere between 15 to 32.

[In58men]

Washburn DB Corey Ballentine has a formal meeting with the Chiefs tonight.

It was clear the chance to play for th Chiefs would mean a lot to the Kansas native

[O.city]

I’d he makes it to 29, would be tough to not take

Although I think he’s pretty small to play 43 de

[O.city]

You guys read into these meetings too much

[KChiefs1]

Tomorrow is the big day.

I expect the Chiefs to draft at least 3 secondary players.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

These DBs are flying in the 40

[RunKC]

Trayvon Mullen is gonna be a first rd pick. 4.46
DeAndre Baker 4.53. 4.63 on his 2nd try yikes.
Greedy Williams 4.38

[staylor26]

Sean Bunting with a great unofficial time for his size

[RunKC]

Byron Murphy 4.55. Not exactly a great time for him.

[staylor26]

Byron Murphy 4.55. Not exactly a great time for him.

Good. Not worried about it at all just like with Baker.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Oruwaryie with a 4.48

[TambaBerry]

those are all plenty fast enough, now the cone and shuttle will really decide

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Byron Murphy 4.55. Not exactly a great time for him.

He put on weight for this combine too though

[RunKC]

Rock Ya Sin just under 4.6

[RunKC]

Jamel Dean is intrigiuing.

6’1” 206 almost 32 inch arms
4.31 40
16 bench reps

Has had 3 knee injuries though. That will make him fall unfortunately

[RunKC]

Looks like we are interested.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Vanderbilt CB Joejuan Williams said he’s had both formal and informal meetings with the Chiefs and they went really well. I’ll have more on that later.</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1102317991453175810?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

4.65
Not ideal

[pugsnotdrugs19]

4.65
Not ideal

Joejuan definitely should make it near 61 now. Question is how much stock will the Chiefs put into these tests.

Gotta judge how fast they are on tape more than anything. If he can read things and position himself well, test well on 3 cone/shuttle, he could be fine.

[RunKC]

Adderley isn’t doing anything today. Ankle injury hurting him. Gotta wait for his pro day

[TambaBerry]

in my opinion the 40 doesnt matter as much as quickness and change of direction does. the difference in a 4.40 and a 4.60 when you're lining up with your hand in the dirt and you run straight isnt a big deal

[DJ's left nut]

4.65
Not ideal

Also not that surprising.

The 'he's gonna get up into the 1st' talk never made sense to me. He just doesn't look explosive. He's a long, physical defender not unlike Sean Smith.

Which is fine. I've said in the draft forum that I've actually talked myself into Julian Love over him, Lonnie Johnson and Trayvon Mullen (3 other possibilities at the back of 2) because I think Love complements Ward better than those guys, who are of similar mold/technique.

But I don't think that 40 time does much to really damage him as I would've been surprised to see him get too far below 4.6.

[tyton75]

I hope all of the d-backs run slow so they will fall to us. I think Veach/Reid care way more about game film and how a guy plays.

Although some of those DL's were shockingly fast in the 40. Freaks of nature really.

[O.city]

Also not that surprising.

The 'he's gonna get up into the 1st' talk never made sense to me. He just doesn't look explosive. He's a long, physical defender not unlike Sean Smith.

Which is fine. I've said in the draft forum that I've actually talked myself into Julian Love over him, Lonnie Johnson and Trayvon Mullen (3 other possibilities at the back of 2) because I think Love complements Ward better than those guys, who are of similar mold/technique.

But I don't think that 40 time does much to really damage him as I would've been surprised to see him get too far below 4.6.

He seems like he's pretty much what you hope Ward is too though, right? Seems a little redundant.

I still think they trade for an established corner.

[The Franchise]

Also not that surprising.

The 'he's gonna get up into the 1st' talk never made sense to me. He just doesn't look explosive. He's a long, physical defender not unlike Sean Smith.

Which is fine. I've said in the draft forum that I've actually talked myself into Julian Love over him, Lonnie Johnson and Trayvon Mullen (3 other possibilities at the back of 2) because I think Love complements Ward better than those guys, who are of similar mold/technique.

But I don't think that 40 time does much to really damage him as I would've been surprised to see him get too far below 4.6.

This draft is making it damn near impossible not to be an Irish homer.

[RunKC]

This draft is making it damn near impossible not to be an Irish homer.

Daniel Jeremiah just said he thinks Julian Love is very similar to Desmond King.

[O.city]

Fuck Notre Dame.

[The Franchise]

Daniel Jeremiah just said he thinks Julian Love is very similar to Desmond King.

I could probably talk myself into taking him at 29. Or trade up into the top of 2nd for him.

[O.city]

I actually like Love (i'm a noted terrible judge of corners though so grain of salt) but I feel like taking him at 29 means you're letting a better talent go by.

I'm pretty much off a corner at 29 at this point. I could be talked into any of them, but to me that just says they're all pretty much the same.

[TambaBerry]

im really looking at David Long, he is looking great today

[RunKC]

Idk guys I think Greedy, Murphy, Mullen and maybe Baker are first rd talents. It seems like there are better options for our 2nd rd pick.

I like the safety class way more than the corner class. It looks like there will be a lot of options at safety around our pick.

[TambaBerry]

Also Lonnie Johnson from Kentucky is looking amazing

[DJ's left nut]

Nobody talks about Justin Layne. Is it a belief that he's just obviously not a 1st round pick but clearly not going to fall to the late 2nd either?

What am I missing with this kid? Why shouldn't I consider him at the top of the 'next tier' or even on par with Deandre Baker? I really like him.

[O.city]

There's just a glut of front 7 players that a lot of these teams are going to be high on.

Throw in the TE's, 2 QB's, a few OL and there is going to be some good players at 29.

[DJ's left nut]

Idk guys I think Greedy, Murphy, Mullen and maybe Baker are first rd talents. It seems like there are better options for our 2nd rd pick.

I like the safety class way more than the corner class. It looks like there will be a lot of options at safety around our pick.

What's nice about the corner class is the amount of damn near indistinguishable depth there that should push at least one quality option to the back of the 2nd.

There are probably 7 guys who I could consider with those 2nd rounders, all of whom could potentially be available there (with probably 2 or maybe 3 still to choose from).

It makes me awfully reticent to just say "TAKE A CORNER IN THE 1ST!!!!" as has been the common refrain.

[DJ's left nut]

I would probably also take Byron Murphy off your 1st round possibilities board. He ain't gonna be there.

And man, did Joejuan just step on his dick there or what? Shit in and out of his back-peddle, stumbled when he turned his hips to break and then flat dropped the wounded quail they tossed out there for him to catch.

Now he can't go doing THAT. That was really bad.

[RunKC]

I know a lot of you like Adderley, but right now my guy at safety is Taylor Rapp. That guy has size, balls skills, toughness and flexibility.

The guy broke his hand as a freshman and played with a cast. He’s a thumper in the box and he has very impressive ball skills.

[BleedingRed]

God damn I want Devin White

[O.city]

Yeah, if Devin White were to get to say the late teens, i'd give up some picks to go up and get him.

[staylor26]

Nobody talks about Justin Layne. Is it a belief that he's just obviously not a 1st round pick but clearly not going to fall to the late 2nd either?

What am I missing with this kid? Why shouldn't I consider him at the top of the 'next tier' or even on par with Deandre Baker? I really like him.

I like Layne, but he’s after Williams, Johnson, Love, and maybe even Bunting for me.

[DJ's left nut]

God damn I want Devin White

So bad much. Soooooo bad much.

Dude's gonna be best of breed for a decade.

[O.city]

I like Bush a lot too. I know DJ is down on him but I think he's of equal athlete to White.

[The Franchise]

So bad much. Soooooo bad much.

Dude's gonna be best of breed for a decade.

When would you trade up and how much would you give up to get him?

[O.city]

I figure White goes about the same spot as Roquan went last year so you'd probably have to get to about 10.

[The Franchise]

Trading up isn’t a possibility then.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Greedy Williams is having a bad day. His backpedaling drills he has stumbled and turned early multiple times

[DJ's left nut]

I like Bush a lot too. I know DJ is down on him but I think he's of equal athlete to White.

He's not equal. He's definitely the next best thing and would be the best MLB prospect in many drafts, but he's just a tick behind White.

And let's not act like I hate the guy either. I've flat out said there's a scenario where he's the 1st rounder that wouldn't upset me. I just wish the guy would show me more instincts. The highlight reels will show you all those plays he made while he was guessing and got it right, but they won't show you the times that he stared down a QB and got torched or simply ran past his lane.

[htismaqe]

Trading up isn’t a possibility then.

Nope. Devin White is a top 10 pick, no way we can get there.

[DJ's left nut]

When would you trade up and how much would you give up to get him?

Nothing seems realistic after this combine, which I knew was likely.

Early mocks had him occasionally falling to 18 or even the low 20s. That was asinine from the start but I could always hope.

I was willing to give up our 2nd to move up and grab him whenever that became a viable possibility. I don't think I could justify much more than that.

[RunKC]

You guys might want to get familiar with the name Chris Lindstrom. I have a hard time believing Andy doesn’t have an enormous hard on for this dude. He seems like an ideal prototype OL that Andy fawns over.

Maybe one of our 2nd rd picks.

[htismaqe]

Idk guys I think Greedy, Murphy, Mullen and maybe Baker are first rd talents. It seems like there are better options for our 2nd rd pick.

I like the safety class way more than the corner class. It looks like there will be a lot of options at safety around our pick.

That's the way I'm seeing it too.

Get a #1 CB in FA, S at 29 (Adderley or Rapp), #2/3 CB at the end of the 2nd.

[Al Bundy]

God damn I want Devin White

I doubt he makes it past the Buccaneers first pick.

[DJ's left nut]

Idk guys I think Greedy, Murphy, Mullen and maybe Baker are first rd talents. It seems like there are better options for our 2nd rd pick.

I like the safety class way more than the corner class. It looks like there will be a lot of options at safety around our pick.

Honestly I've gotten to the point where I only see Murphy as a true 1st round talent.

I'd imagine Greedy and Baker will go in the 1st as well, but those guys aren't 1st round caliber players, IMO.

But I don't know shit, so there's that...

[tyton75]

This will probably go against the grain, but unless someone perfect falls to us in the 1st, I'd be more willing to trade down to get some picks later. Not trade down too far, but if we could pick up another 3rd or 4th, could be nice. We have more needs than at defensive back. OL and TE and LB and DL and RB.

[DJ's left nut]

And Lonnie Johnson with another bad drill; body all over the place, loud hands and drops.

Byron Murphy is 'winning' this combine but that's because he should. A close second is Layne though - he looks spectacular. Love isn't far behind him.

!@#$ing Murphy looks like he's playing on Rookie mode out there.

EDIT: Ya Sin has also looked pretty good.

I'm tellin' ya though, I could be talked into Layne as the 2nd best CB in this draft right now. It might be foolish of me, but he's impressed the hell out of me today.

[TambaBerry]

And Lonnie Johnson with another bad drill; body all over the place, loud hands and drops.

Byron Murphy is 'winning' this combine but that's because he should. A close second is Layne though - he looks spectacular. Love isn't far behind him.

!@#$ing Murphy looks like he's playing on Rookie mode out there.

EDIT: Ya Sin has also looked pretty good.

I'm tellin' ya though, I could be talked into Layne as the 2nd best CB in this draft right now. It might be foolish of me, but he's impressed the hell out of me today.

yep spoke too soon on Lonnie

[pugsnotdrugs19]

How has Oruwaryie looked today? I like what I’ve seen from him in game.

[O.city]

Every corner in this draft that's projected to go high, I feel like I can look at and go "yeah, but I could also take x corner in round 2 and be in a similar spot".

Admittedly I'm an absolute mongoloid when it comes to evaluating corner play so who the hell knows.

I'd package a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year and see if I could get Peterson and go with that.

[staylor26]

My personal favorite prospect outside of the 1st Savage with an unofficial 4.39

[htismaqe]

My personal favorite prospect outside of the 1st Savage with an unofficial 4.39

This safety class is starting to look REALLY deep. I think we can get a day 1 starter in the 1st or 2nd, whether it's Adderley, Savage, Rapp, or somebody.

They really need to get to work on getting a #1 CB through FA or a trade.

[RunKC]

This safety class is starting to look REALLY deep. I think we can get a day 1 starter in the 1st or 2nd, whether it's Adderley, Savage, Rapp, or somebody.

They really need to get to work on getting a #1 CB through FA or a trade.

Juan Thornhill
6 ft 205 lbs
21 bench reps
4.43 40

Similar to my guy Taylor Rapp. Really like him.

[htismaqe]

Juan Thornhill
6 ft 205 lbs
21 bench reps
4.43 40

Similar to my guy Taylor Rapp. Really like him.

Love it. I'm a safety nut, this class is :drool:

[BryanBusby]

Juan Thornhill
6 ft 205 lbs
21 bench reps
4.43 40

Similar to my guy Taylor Rapp. Really like him.
I'm a big Thornhill fan.

You guys might want to get familiar with the name Chris Lindstrom. I have a hard time believing Andy doesn’t have an enormous hard on for this dude. He seems like an ideal prototype OL that Andy fawns over.

Maybe one of our 2nd rd picks.
No way. He's doing too well in Indy and could absolutely go in the 1st round.

There aren't 32 players in this draft I'd consider definite first round material, so look out.

[KChiefs1]

40’s synced up.

https://youtu.be/NaaPMSmjlKY

[The Franchise]

I know a lot of you like Adderley, but right now my guy at safety is Taylor Rapp. That guy has size, balls skills, toughness and flexibility.

The guy broke his hand as a freshman and played with a cast. He’s a thumper in the box and he has very impressive ball skills.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Defensive Draft Prospect of the Week: Washington S Taylor Rapp.<br><br>Rapp was our highest graded Power 5 safety (90.1 overall). Rapp plays all over the field (488 Free S snaps, 180 Box snaps, 123 Slot CB snaps) and missed just 2 tackles.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/YeUHRbnSGr">pic.twitter.com/YeUHRbnSGr</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1102675083393462275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Defensive Draft Prospect of the Week: Washington S Taylor Rapp.<br><br>Rapp was our highest graded Power 5 safety (90.1 overall). Rapp plays all over the field (488 Free S snaps, 180 Box snaps, 123 Slot CB snaps) and missed just 2 tackles.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/YeUHRbnSGr">pic.twitter.com/YeUHRbnSGr</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1102675083393462275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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DROOL

[staylor26]

Love Rapp but he’s not making it to our 2nd.

[Pitt Gorilla]

And Lonnie Johnson with another bad drill; body all over the place, loud hands and drops.

Byron Murphy is 'winning' this combine but that's because he should. A close second is Layne though - he looks spectacular. Love isn't far behind him.

!@#$ing Murphy looks like he's playing on Rookie mode out there.

EDIT: Ya Sin has also looked pretty good.

I'm tellin' ya though, I could be talked into Layne as the 2nd best CB in this draft right now. It might be foolish of me, but he's impressed the hell out of me today.It's interesting that everyone has assumed that Greedy will go top 10 for sure.

[Chris Meck]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This week’s <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> Defensive Draft Prospect of the Week: Washington S Taylor Rapp.<br><br>Rapp was our highest graded Power 5 safety (90.1 overall). Rapp plays all over the field (488 Free S snaps, 180 Box snaps, 123 Slot CB snaps) and missed just 2 tackles.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/YeUHRbnSGr">pic.twitter.com/YeUHRbnSGr</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1102675083393462275?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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A versatile safety like Rapp might well be a better bet as Berry is...well...you know.
Watts and Lucas have showed some possibilities at FS. Rapp can play either spot, so if Berry can somehow miraculously play and is his old self then you're in really good shape with two players that can do either.

[Chris Meck]

Love Rapp but he’s not making it to our 2nd.

the thing is, I've seen like 100 players everyone swears will be long gone by the time we pick.

It's not possible.

some of these guys are going to fall as some of these workout warriors move up after good combines.

[htismaqe]

Love Rapp but he’s not making it to our 2nd.

Which is why, like Adderley, you take him at 29 and take a CB in the 2nd. The CBs are going to fall.

[Chris Meck]

Which is why, like Adderley, you take him at 29 and take a CB in the 2nd. The CBs are going to fall.

A Rapp/Adderley plus Mullen combo would be pretty killer.

[The Franchise]

A Rapp/Adderley plus Mullen combo would be pretty killer.

Adderley and Julian Love for me.

[htismaqe]

A Rapp/Adderley plus Mullen combo would be pretty killer.

Adderley and Julian Love for me.

There's a ton of 1st round S / 2nd round CB combos that make me smile. :D

[Kiimo]

This is a great draft for us.

Don't screw it up, Veach.

[RunKC]

It looks like basically all of the top safeties are going to be pushed down the board to around our pick, but I think all of these guys will be gone by mid 2nd rd.

That’s awesome. Our biggest need and we should get one of the tier 1 guys if we want them.

[htismaqe]

It looks like basically all of the top safeties are going to be pushed down the board to around our pick, but I think all of these guys will be gone by mid 2nd rd.

That’s awesome. Our biggest need and we should get one of the tier 1 guys if we want them.

Yep. :thumb:

[Kiimo]

Byron Murphy 4.55 is less than ideal. He looks small too.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One of the top cornerback prospects in the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a>.<a href="https://twitter.com/UW_Football?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@UW_Football</a> CB <a href="https://twitter.com/byronmurphy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@ByronMurphy</a>&#39;s 2019 <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> workout! <a href="https://t.co/I4vefneZ1a">pic.twitter.com/I4vefneZ1a</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1102705716698144769?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 4, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[farmerchief]

And Lonnie Johnson with another bad drill; body all over the place, loud hands and drops.

Byron Murphy is 'winning' this combine but that's because he should. A close second is Layne though - he looks spectacular. Love isn't far behind him.

!@#$ing Murphy looks like he's playing on Rookie mode out there.

EDIT: Ya Sin has also looked pretty good.

I'm tellin' ya though, I could be talked into Layne as the 2nd best CB in this draft right now. It might be foolish of me, but he's impressed the hell out of me today.
I watched quite a bit today, and I wasnt really impressed with any of the "highly touted" CB's. I agree Layne looked pretty decent and his size and wingspan is impressive, just depends what Spags likes in his CB's.(Doesnt he like tall rangy type of backs?) I also think Ya Sin looked as good as anybody, I would take him over the top guys, as I think he will be good value for when we could take him.

[MahomesMagic]

Byron Murphy, Julian Love, Chauncey Gardner-Johnson all work for me.

[Sassy Squatch]

Sounds like Murray did absolutely awful in the interview process.

[Kiimo]

Sounds like a bunch of guys were awful.

But also sounds like a bunch of dumb NFL front offices were playing mind games, too.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Florida?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Florida</a> EDGE Jachai Polite said that when he met with the 49ers at the Combine, they didn’t even really talk football with him at all. “They just bashed me the whole time... Idk.”</p>&mdash; Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) <a href="https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/1101930717943074816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">dumbest league ever <a href="https://t.co/QXIawtupxD">pic.twitter.com/QXIawtupxD</a></p>&mdash; charles mcdonald (lakers 30-34) (@FourVerts) <a href="https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1102354021409570816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[pugsnotdrugs19]

Sounds like Murray did absolutely awful in the interview process.

He comes off like a punk ass a lot it seems in interviews.

For awhile I thought Arizona should do it but Idk. Lazy won’t cut it in the NFL, and it sounds like his desire to watch film and improve is... lazy.

[Sassy Squatch]

Sounds like a bunch of guys were awful.

But also sounds like a bunch of dumb NFL front offices were playing mind games, too.


<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Florida?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Florida</a> EDGE Jachai Polite said that when he met with the 49ers at the Combine, they didn’t even really talk football with him at all. “They just bashed me the whole time... Idk.”</p>&mdash; Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) <a href="https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/1101930717943074816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">dumbest league ever <a href="https://t.co/QXIawtupxD">pic.twitter.com/QXIawtupxD</a></p>&mdash; charles mcdonald (lakers 30-34) (@FourVerts) <a href="https://twitter.com/FourVerts/status/1102354021409570816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 3, 2019</a></blockquote>
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This wasn't dumb shit like asking if you still had both testicles. Interviews. Studying. White board. He apparently was horrible at all of it.

[The Franchise]

Casserly on Murray's interviews:

"He better hope Kliff Kingsbury takes him No. 1 because this was not good. Leadership? Not good. Study habits? Not good. The board work? Below not good. Not good at all in any of those areas and raising major concerns about what this guy is going to do."

[CasselGotPeedOn]

That must mean Murray knocked it out of the park considering Casserly is a moron.

[St. Patty's Fire]

That must mean Murray knocked it out of the park considering Casserly is a moron.

Dude is seriously a specimen of idiocy

He said Mahomes is “1 read QB” late in the season LMAO

[BryanBusby]

Casserly on Murray's interviews:

"He better hope Kliff Kingsbury takes him No. 1 because this was not good. Leadership? Not good. Study habits? Not good. The board work? Below not good. Not good at all in any of those areas and raising major concerns about what this guy is going to do."
Meh, that's Jon Gruden wanting Murray to drop to 4.

[DJ's left nut]

Sounds like a bunch of guys were awful.

But also sounds like a bunch of dumb NFL front offices were playing mind games, too.

From just about everything I've read, Polite was a monumental prick.

The 'they hate us 'cause they ain't us' crowd who gets all bent out of shape anytime someone dares criticize them can just fuck right off. Anybody that uses the word 'hater' in a non-ironic manner is probably an idiot.

Sometimes people just have questions and when it came to Polite, a lot of them seemed warranted. For him to act like that process was beneath him says a lot about how he'll take to coaching, IMO.

[DJ's left nut]

That must mean Murray knocked it out of the park considering Casserly is a moron.

Casserly's mock was one of the worst I've ever seen.

The guy doesn't know shit.

[Kiimo]

From just about everything I've read, Polite was a monumental prick.

The 'they hate us 'cause they ain't us' crowd who gets all bent out of shape anytime someone dares criticize them can just **** right off. Anybody that uses the word 'hater' in a non-ironic manner is probably an idiot.

Sometimes people just have questions and when it came to Polite, a lot of them seemed warranted. For him to act like that process was beneath him says a lot about how he'll take to coaching, IMO.


Oh don't get me wrong, Polite is completely off my board if I'm in charge.

[ntexascardfan]

I honestly think the more we see of this draft class the more I think

1rst round: Linebacker (Bush if he's there, doubtful), Safety (Adderely if he's there, probably), Edge (Austin Bryant, Jaylon Ferguson, Charles Omenihu) in that order of priority

2nd round: cornerback, edge, IDL, WR in that order

I really don't like any of the cornerbacks in round one.

Linebacker and safety are where I see the biggest drops in production between the day 1 and day 2 guys.

I think edge is the deepest position in the draft and we can find quality there on day 2-3

And I don't think this draft has the quality at CB that there's a meaningful gap between what would be there at the end of the first and end of the second.

[htismaqe]

A staring contest? LOL

And these teams wonder why they draft guys that can't play football.

[DJ's left nut]

A staring contest? LOL

And these teams wonder why they draft guys that can't play football.

There's a school of thought that says silence is the most unnerving thing you can put someone through; I believe there are some interrogation techniques that use it heavily.

Now I'm not saying I'd bother with this bit of inanity and I wholly support the idea that pretty much every football coach is some level of unhinged lunatic. I was too bad to even warrant any coach's attention in High School yet they were pretty much all half-crazy.

That said, it's more likely that they were just sitting there silently to see how a guy reacts to an uncomfortable situation than they were engaged in a staring contest.

[ToxSocks]

A staring contest? LOL

And these teams wonder why they draft guys that can't play football.

They want a guy who doesn't flinch in the face of adversity?

[Pablo]

Grit test. Nothing say grit like staring into another man's eyes for a quarter of a minute.

[MahiMike]

Holyfield looks exactly like Zeke Elliot. If they were standing next to each other I couldn't tell them apart.

[Sassy Squatch]

I'd really like to know the thought process of asking someone if they still have both their nuts.

[YontsRBake]

I honestly think the more we see of this draft class the more I think

1rst round: Linebacker (Bush if he's there, doubtful), Safety (Adderely if he's there, probably), Edge (Austin Bryant, Jaylon Ferguson, Charles Omenihu) in that order of priority

2nd round: cornerback, edge, IDL, WR in that order

I really don't like any of the cornerbacks in round one.

Linebacker and safety are where I see the biggest drops in production between the day 1 and day 2 guys.

I think edge is the deepest position in the draft and we can find quality there on day 2-3

And I don't think this draft has the quality at CB that there's a meaningful gap between what would be there at the end of the first and end of the second.

I honestly think we should trade up for Bush if he makes it to 20. He is going to be a very good NFL player.

[SAUTO]

I'd really like to know the thought process of asking someone if they still have both their nuts.

Someone asks me that i'm just flopping them out and telling them they are welcome to see for themselves...


I'd probably never get drafted

[htismaqe]

They want a guy who doesn't flinch in the face of adversity?

How does that show how a guy handles ADVERSITY?

Quite frankly, it's pretty stupid if that's the thinking. Plus, it's freaking CREEPY.

[htismaqe]

I honestly think we should trade up for Bush if he makes it to 20. He is going to be a very good NFL player.

Trade away the 2nd round of our draft to get Devin Bush? No freaking thanks.

[Willie Lanier]

Trade away the 2nd round of our draft to get Devin Bush? No freaking thanks.

Agreed

If it was White I'd be all over throwing a team our 2s but he won't be in range for that kind of move

[RunKC]

Holy fuck David Long ran a 6.45 3 cone. That’s one of the best 3 cones in combine history.

[New World Order]

If we trade Ford I’d completely support giving up a late second to move up in the first and draft Greedy or Adderly

[Buehler445]

Someone asks me that i'm just flopping them out and telling them they are welcome to see for themselves...


I'd probably never get drafted

I think it’s fair to say that if you grew up in the social media generation there is a high probability there would be digital evidence of you saying or doing something that would indeed keep you from getting drafted.

HOWEVER, I’d pay good money to be present at these combine interviews. Extra if I can be behind a 2 way mirror. ROFL

How does that show how a guy handles ADVERSITY?

Quite frankly, it's pretty stupid if that's the thinking. Plus, it's freaking CREEPY.

To be fair we were the laughing stock of every scouting event with whatever fuck Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards brought in to have slap fights with DL prospects and scream at fools like a mongoloid.

God I hate that my team employed the fraud that is Squirmin Herman Motherfucking Sack of Cunt Edwards.

[htismaqe]

Holy fuck David Long ran a 6.45 3 cone. That’s one of the best 3 cones in combine history.

It's also a pretty relevant test, more relevant than the 40 for example, when it comes to CBs.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/VandyFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VandyFootball</a> CB Joejuan Williams got the 40 time he needed — 4.55 — at Pro Day. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoejuanW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoejuanW</a> <a href="https://t.co/p7otqCvT5w">pic.twitter.com/p7otqCvT5w</a></p>&mdash; Adam Sparks (@AdamSparks) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/1105519142810071040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[DJ's left nut]

Holy fuck David Long ran a 6.45 3 cone. That’s one of the best 3 cones in combine history.

That's the kid out of Michigan, right?

Yeah, that dude jumped off the screen athletically. He was good enough to almost make me MORE nervous about him.

How bad to his instincts have to have been to be so damn underwhelming in college? He killed every single drill; great size and strength. On paper he was everything you could possibly want in a true boundary CB.

But he just never stood out in college at all. You gotta wonder why?

Excellent, excellent sleeper pick and if the CB hunt doesn't go as hoped in the first 2 rounds, I'd look into him more in the 3rd. But that college production would keep me off him in our first 3 picks and really, I'd far prefer see him in the 4th, when we don't have a pick anyway.

[O.city]

That's the kid out of Michigan, right?

Yeah, that dude jumped off the screen athletically. He was good enough to almost make me MORE nervous about him.

How bad to his instincts have to have been to be so damn underwhelming in college? He killed every single drill; great size and strength. On paper he was everything you could possibly want in a true boundary CB.

But he just never stood out in college at all. You gotta wonder why?

Excellent, excellent sleeper pick and if the CB hunt doesn't go as hoped in the first 2 rounds, I'd look into him more in the 3rd. But that college production would keep me off him in our first 3 picks and really, I'd far prefer see him in the 4th, when we don't have a pick anyway.

Plus it's not like he played for a coach or system that's not known for putting defensive guys in the league and successfully developing them.

I mean Harbaugh churns guys out.

I'd take him and try and develop him though, worst case he's a legit special teamer with those measurables.

[Iconic]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/VandyFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VandyFootball</a> CB Joejuan Williams got the 40 time he needed — 4.55 — at Pro Day. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoejuanW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoejuanW</a> <a href="https://t.co/p7otqCvT5w">pic.twitter.com/p7otqCvT5w</a></p>&mdash; Adam Sparks (@AdamSparks) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/1105519142810071040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Joe saved his ass big time here. For a period it almost looked like he wouldn't even translate into a corner after the combine. Would take a 2nd on him now tbh.

[TambaBerry]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/VandyFootball?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@VandyFootball</a> CB Joejuan Williams got the 40 time he needed — 4.55 — at Pro Day. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLDraft?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLDraft</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/JoejuanW?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@JoejuanW</a> <a href="https://t.co/p7otqCvT5w">pic.twitter.com/p7otqCvT5w</a></p>&mdash; Adam Sparks (@AdamSparks) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSparks/status/1105519142810071040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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he didnt save shit in my opinion. Your 40 is always going to be faster on hand timed

[TambaBerry]

.9 from electronic to hand timed is negligible

[DJ's left nut]

he didnt save shit in my opinion. Your 40 is always going to be faster on hand timed

Yup.

And he looked stiff as hell in the drills.

Sure looked to be more of a safety prospect to me. That's not the end of the world and I'd still have him on my board at 2, but there are people saying they'd take him in the 1st and that's just goofy.

Man I hope Veach doesn't go reaching on one of these completely fungible, stock CBs. This isn't a good CB class at the top at all, but it's plenty deep. That's a reason to take one in the 2nd.

It's the reason you DON'T take one in the 1st.

[RunKC]

Want want want

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texas</a> DE Charles Omenihu met with and is receiving strong interest from the Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <br><br>If you haven’t, take the time to go watch Charles’ tape. Dominant and will be a solid addition come Draft day. <a href="https://t.co/8LStU2ezKo">pic.twitter.com/8LStU2ezKo</a></p>&mdash; Jared Tokarz (@NFLDraftInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftInsider/status/1105253788867325952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

Would you have to use your first?

[staylor26]

Want want want

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texas?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Texas</a> DE Charles Omenihu met with and is receiving strong interest from the Kansas City <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <br><br>If you haven’t, take the time to go watch Charles’ tape. Dominant and will be a solid addition come Draft day. <a href="https://t.co/8LStU2ezKo">pic.twitter.com/8LStU2ezKo</a></p>&mdash; Jared Tokarz (@NFLDraftInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFLDraftInsider/status/1105253788867325952?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 11, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


Fuck yes. I like him so much I’ve warmed up to the idea of taking him at 29

[Iconic]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">4.55 Laser 40<br>4.01 Shuttle <br>6.84 L Drill <br>💨💨💨 <a href="https://t.co/NeOlmFCqmU">https://t.co/NeOlmFCqmU</a></p>&mdash; Joejuan Williams (@JoejuanW) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoejuanW/status/1105560526233526272?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 12, 2019</a></blockquote>
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At 4 for the short shuttle and under 7 for the 3 cone. Pretty convincing for a 2nd round pick.

[htismaqe]

Get rid of Ford. Draft Omenihu. Profit.

[Iconic]

.9 from electronic to hand timed is negligible

Apparently it was laser timed.

[New World Order]

Get rid of Ford. Draft Omenihu. Profit.

Use Ford pick to trade back up and draft Adderly

[RunKC]

Get rid of Ford. Draft Omenihu. Profit.

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