2019 NFL Combine Thread

[O.city]

Thought we could get a thread going on the combine here. Andy is going to be interviewed around 12 Ct today IIRC.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Meanwhile at the haunted amusement park, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a> gm Kevin Colbert leaves the possibility open that Antonio Brown could return; cites Mike Tomlin&#39;s skill at managing player&#39;s personalities and emotions. <a href="https://t.co/kjIFoz9sZN">pic.twitter.com/kjIFoz9sZN</a></p>&mdash; Mike Tanier (@MikeTanier) <a href="https://twitter.com/MikeTanier/status/1100792995308290050?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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The Steelers are going to fuck this thing all up and end up keeping him. LOL>

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> GM Steve Keim on Josh Rosen being the team&#39;s QB:<br><br>&quot;He is right now, for sure.”<br><br>Just as a test, go to your significant other right now and say &quot;We&#39;re together right now, for sure.&quot;<br><br>See how that plays.</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1100791355129892864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Kyler going number 1?

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cardinals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cardinals</a> GM Steve Keim on Josh Rosen being the team&#39;s QB:<br><br>&quot;He is right now, for sure.”<br><br>Just as a test, go to your significant other right now and say &quot;We&#39;re together right now, for sure.&quot;<br><br>See how that plays.</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1100791355129892864?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Kyler going number 1?

That would be a major fuck up by the Cardinals.

[O.city]

That would be a major **** up by the Cardinals.

If you could trade Rosen to say, NE for 32 and take Kyler at 1, i'd do it.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“Interest has grown.” — <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Steelers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Steelers</a> GM Kevin Colbert, on a possible Antonio Brown trade. “Ideally you’ll like to trade him to someone you’d never play. But if a team comes through with the best compensation you have to weigh that.”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1100793893824749568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[The Franchise]

If you could trade Rosen to say, NE for 32 and take Kyler at 1, i'd do it.

No one is going to offer up a 1st round pick for Rosen after a horrible year.

[O.city]

No one is going to offer up a 1st round pick for Rosen after a horrible year.

Well, why not? If you liked him coming out, what he did last year on an asstastic Cards squad shouldn't change it much. Plus you could have him for 4 years cheap for a QB.

[RunKC]

You know who has a shit load of picks and seems to have the perfect fit for Rosen?

Patriots

[staylor26]

You know who has a shit load of picks and seems to have the perfect fit for Rosen?

Patriots

Lol did you even read the thread?

[The Franchise]

Everyone always mocks the Patriots a QB at the end of the 1st round....and it never fucking happens.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giants GM Dave Gettleman: “We didn’t sign Odell to trade him.”</p>&mdash; Albert Breer (@AlbertBreer) <a href="https://twitter.com/AlbertBreer/status/1100799360810528768?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[DJ's left nut]

If you could trade Rosen to say, NE for 32 and take Kyler at 1, i'd do it.

If I could trade Rosen to NE for 32 I'd STILL avoid Murray like the plague at #1 overall.

If I had a hard-on for Murray I'd see if I could convince the Bucs to give me a 1st next season and a 2 this season and slide down to 5, staying ahead of the Giants so I could still be reasonably confident I'd get Murray. I just can't see SF with Grapes, NYJ with Darnold or the Raiders with Gruden taking that guy.

And yeah, the Bucs might go QB but they're not giving up that much capital to move up to 1.1 and take that kind of risk.

That said, I don't think for a second that Murray will be a successful NFL quarterback. I don't see the utility in being some sort of odd mashup of Drew Brees and Lamar Jackson.

If you make that trade and Gruden burns you by taking him...oh well.

[O.city]

If I could trade Rosen to NE for 32 I'd STILL avoid Murray like the plague at #1 overall.

If I had a hard-on for Murray I'd see if I could convince the Bucs to give me a 1st next season and a 2 this season and slide down to 5, staying ahead of the Giants so I could still be reasonably confident I'd get Murray. I just can't see SF with Grapes, NYJ with Darnold or the Raiders with Gruden taking that guy.

And yeah, the Bucs might go QB but they're not giving up that much capital to move up to 1.1 and take that kind of risk.

That said, I don't think for a second that Murray will be a successful NFL quarterback. I don't see the utility in being some sort of odd mashup of Drew Brees and Lamar Jackson.

If you make that trade and Gruden burns you by taking him...oh well.

Not a Kyler fan?

[staylor26]

Yea I’m not buying in on Murray either DJ

[DJ's left nut]

Not a Kyler fan?

Watching Gruden say "height doesn't matter" and then cite a !@#$ing football throwing robot like Drew Brees is just laughable.

It's the same nonsense you hear from the 'velocity doesn't matter' crowd when they point to Greg Maddux. Yeah, sure, if Kyler Murray is so preternaturally precise that you need computers and 1000fps photography to find slight alterations in his delivery on a throw by throw basis, you've got a point.

But citing the exceptions that prove the rule doesn't impress me.

If/when he measures at 5'10'', I'd have him in the latter half of the 1st at best. He'll simply struggle to drive the ball down into intermediate zones over the middle. His arm strength won't matter on those passes if he can't get on top of the ball and fire it downhill. All it will do is have him sailing passes as he tries to clear his lineman.

The only way you could keep the entire field open for him is to move the pocket around a lot and then you're going to expose him to more and more hits AND you'll need to build an athletic, intelligent offensive line with a ton of continuity to keep him upright.

The rise of the shotgun formation and spread concepts gives him a chance that he wouldn't have had 5 years ago, I'll give him that. But it's still more risk than I'd ever be willing to take at 1.1.

[O.city]

Watching Gruden say "height doesn't matter" and then cite a !@#$ing football throwing robot like Drew Brees is just laughable.

It's the same nonsense you hear from the 'velocity doesn't matter' crowd when they point to Greg Maddux. Yeah, sure, if Kyler Murray is so preternaturally precise that you need computers and 1000fps photography to find slight alterations in his delivery on a throw by throw basis, you've got a point.

But citing the exceptions that prove the rule doesn't impress me.

If/when he measures at 5'10'', I'd have him in the latter half of the 1st at best. He'll simply struggle to drive the ball down into intermediate zones over the middle. His arm strength won't matter on those passes if he can't get on top of the ball and fire it downhill. All it will do is have him sailing passes as he tries to clear his lineman.

The only way you could keep the entire field open for him is to move the pocket around a lot and then you're going to expose him to more and more hits AND you'll need to build an athletic, intelligent offensive line with a ton of continuity to keep him upright.

The rise of the shotgun formation and spread concepts gives him a chance that he wouldn't have had 5 years ago, I'll give him that. But it's still more risk than I'd ever be willing to take at 1.1.

As you said here, the NFL game is so spread out now that I think you'd mitigate some of that.

I wouldn't take him if he's that short just because I'm not in the game of hoping for an outlier. But I'm interested to see what Kinsbury's offense will look like and I think Kyler is a great fit.

Plus I just want to see all the drama and shit. Entertain me NFL, lets see it.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Matt Nagy said Bears discussed Kareem Hunt but that “it never got serious for us.”</p>&mdash; Eric Edholm (@Eric_Edholm) <a href="https://twitter.com/Eric_Edholm/status/1100803657178730501?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[staylor26]

That’s weird. I thought they were the best fit. Cohen and Hunt could’ve been special while Hunt and Chubb is a little redundant.

[DJ's left nut]

As you said here, the NFL game is so spread out now that I think you'd mitigate some of that.

I wouldn't take him if he's that short just because I'm not in the game of hoping for an outlier. But I'm interested to see what Kinsbury's offense will look like and I think Kyler is a great fit.

Plus I just want to see all the drama and shit. Entertain me NFL, lets see it.

I certainly endorse SOMEBODY taking him early and starting him immediately. There's a chance for lightening in a bottle and as a fan I'd like to watch him play because he'll have those Mahomes type 'well there's something nobody else in the league can do' kind of moments. The mere possibility of him being completely unique makes me NOT want him in the AFC West.

But I certainly wouldn't be willing to be the guy that uses 1.1 on him because you're absolutely putting your job on the line. I just don't see a middle ground with Murray - he'll be great or he'll be ineffective.

Balls or bust just isn't something I'd do at 1.1.

[RunKC]

If I could trade Rosen to NE for 32 I'd STILL avoid Murray like the plague at #1 overall.

If I had a hard-on for Murray I'd see if I could convince the Bucs to give me a 1st next season and a 2 this season and slide down to 5, staying ahead of the Giants so I could still be reasonably confident I'd get Murray. I just can't see SF with Grapes, NYJ with Darnold or the Raiders with Gruden taking that guy.

And yeah, the Bucs might go QB but they're not giving up that much capital to move up to 1.1 and take that kind of risk.

That said, I don't think for a second that Murray will be a successful NFL quarterback. I don't see the utility in being some sort of odd mashup of Drew Brees and Lamar Jackson.

If you make that trade and Gruden burns you by taking him...oh well.

I’m not on the Murray wagon either. His primary instinct is to always use his legs instead of moving in the pocket to use his arm like a Mahomes or Wilson. He can make some good throws, but I’m not sold on that ability in the NFL.

[DJ's left nut]

That’s weird. I thought they were the best fit. Cohen and Hunt could’ve been special while Hunt and Chubb is a little redundant.

But then what would you do with Jordan Howard? I mean surely you can't justify benching a slower version of Knile Davis.

I'm not sure how long Howard's gonna be able to coast on a single season but holy hell, that guy looked awful. His vision is as bad as you'll see.

[staylor26]

But then what would you do with Jordan Howard? I mean surely you can't justify benching a slower version of Knile Davis.

I'm not sure how long Howard's gonna be able to coast on a single season but holy hell, that guy looked awful. His vision is as bad as you'll see.

He’s a terrible fit in that offense and I knew it from day 1.

They should’ve traded him when his value was still high.

[O.city]

The Giants are gonna bring back Eli. Gross

[staylor26]

The Giants are gonna bring back Eli. Gross

I don’t think it’ll stop them from taking Haskins.

[The Franchise]

The Giants are gonna bring back Eli. Gross

Some teams never fucking learn.

And apparently winning two Superbowls makes it so a team can't get rid of you.

[O.city]

I don’t think it’ll stop them from taking Haskins.

Will he be there when they pick?

[MahiMike]

I’m not on the Murray wagon either. His primary instinct is to always use his legs instead of moving in the pocket to use his arm like a Mahomes or Wilson. He can make some good throws, but I’m not sold on that ability in the NFL.

I said the same thing for Lamar Jackson. Proving to still be his issue.

[O.city]

Lamar can't make basic throws. He's just not accurate.

Kyler is a really good thrower.

[staylor26]

Will he be there when they pick?

I think so, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Jags or another team traded up.

[O.city]

I think so, but I wouldn’t be shocked if the Jags or another team traded up.

Where are the Jags picking?

I think they need to unload some of their high priced defenders to even get under the cap, so they're gonna have to do something.

I'd love them to trade us Ramsey for something but that just isn't likely.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> boss Howie Roseman says they will NOT tag Nick Foles.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1100811464636534785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Nick Foles now becomes a real target for the Giants and Redskins. <br><br>Jaguars have competition.</p>&mdash; Marc Sessler (@MarcSesslerNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/MarcSesslerNFL/status/1100812232366190593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[TribalElder]

Kyler Murray or whatever the Heisman winners name is will be a huge bust I bet

Teams picking him round 1 should get their heads examined

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Eagles?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Eagles</a> boss Howie Roseman says they will NOT tag Nick Foles.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1100811464636534785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Seriously? They're just going to let him walk?

[The Franchise]

Seriously? They're just going to let him walk?

They only have $2 million in cap space right now. To franchise him and be able to cover it....they'd have to cut players.

[htismaqe]

They only have $2 million in cap space right now. To franchise him and be able to cover it....they'd have to cut players.

Wow, they really screwed the pooch on that. Good thing they have a trophy to show for it.

[Bowser]

Foles with the Jags could be problematic for the rest of the AFC.

[DJ's left nut]

Wow, they really screwed the pooch on that. Good thing they have a trophy to show for it.

They already had the trophy last year.

They screwed the pooch by not capitalizing on his performance in the 2017 playoffs/SB and dealing him then. I never believed the 'turned down a 1st for him' rumors but if they DID, that's just asinine.

There's no question he was instrumental in getting them into the playoffs but in the end, who cares? They fluked into a win against a flawed Bears team (and their shitty kicker) then farted around and lost against the Saints. It didn't move the needle for them long-term apart from easing the possible SB hangover. And?

They weren't likely to get much more than a 3rd for him on the tag anyway, IMO. But they could've gotten a lot more than that had they dealt him last season.

[htismaqe]

They already had the trophy last year.

They screwed the pooch by not capitalizing on his performance in the 2017 playoffs/SB and dealing him then. I never believed the 'turned down a 1st for him' rumors but if they DID, that's just asinine.

There's no question he was instrumental in getting them into the playoffs but in the end, who cares? They fluked into a win against a flawed Bears team (and their shitty kicker) then farted around and lost against the Saints. It didn't move the needle for them long-term apart from easing the possible SB hangover. And?

They weren't likely to get much more than a 3rd for him on the tag anyway, IMO. But they could've gotten a lot more than that had they dealt him last season.

Yep.

[staylor26]

Foles with the Jags could be problematic for the rest of the AFC.

Eh. Their defense is going to lose a few pieces and Foles can just as easily go back to his old self outside of Philly and that offense.

[htismaqe]

Eh. Their defense is going to lose a few pieces and Foles can just as easily go back to his old self outside of Philly and that offense.

I agree. I think the Jags defense peaked two years ago. Something is wrong with that team from the inside out.

[O.city]

Yeah it's called "blake bortlesitis"

[The Franchise]

Eh. Their defense is going to lose a few pieces and Foles can just as easily go back to his old self outside of Philly and that offense.

Well....his old QB coach is their OC now.....so it should at least be a familiar offense for him.

[CaliforniaChief]

They'll probably get a 3rd for compensation anyway, so it really was the best thing for them to do.

[O.city]

They already had the trophy last year.

They screwed the pooch by not capitalizing on his performance in the 2017 playoffs/SB and dealing him then. I never believed the 'turned down a 1st for him' rumors but if they DID, that's just asinine.

There's no question he was instrumental in getting them into the playoffs but in the end, who cares? They fluked into a win against a flawed Bears team (and their shitty kicker) then farted around and lost against the Saints. It didn't move the needle for them long-term apart from easing the possible SB hangover. And?

They weren't likely to get much more than a 3rd for him on the tag anyway, IMO. But they could've gotten a lot more than that had they dealt him last season.

Howie is aggressive. They pushed in for another year with the same group.

I would imagine if he could have gotten that much in a trade last year, they'd have done it.

[htismaqe]

Yeah it's called "blake bortlesitis"

If the defense took a nose dive because they couldn't emotionally handle Bortles being the QB, they have deeper issues than Blake Bortles.

It's the same argument we had about Bob Sutton.

[O.city]

If the defense took a nose dive because they couldn't emotionally handle Bortles being the QB, they have deeper issues than Blake Bortles.

It's the same argument we had about Bob Sutton.

They have a lot of alpha's on the d that aren't used to losing. I think it took a toll. Plus they had Bortles throwing them losses and putting them out there a lot.

[htismaqe]

They have a lot of alpha's on the d that aren't used to losing. I think it took a toll. Plus they had Bortles throwing them losses and putting them out there a lot.

It's the bad times that prove character, not the good times. ;)

[staylor26]

Well....his old QB coach is their OC now.....so it should at least be a familiar offense for him.

Ahh I forgot about that. That should definitely help, but I still expect Foles to come back down to earth wherever he goes.

[O.city]

I don't think Foles will be that good elsewhere. He'll be ok but nothing like he was in Philly.

Situation and surroundings matter, a lot.

[O.city]

Andy is at 115 CT btw.

[Buehler445]

Watching Gruden say "height doesn't matter" and then cite a !@#$ing football throwing robot like Drew Brees is just laughable.

It's the same nonsense you hear from the 'velocity doesn't matter' crowd when they point to Greg Maddux. Yeah, sure, if Kyler Murray is so preternaturally precise that you need computers and 1000fps photography to find slight alterations in his delivery on a throw by throw basis, you've got a point.

But citing the exceptions that prove the rule doesn't impress me.

If/when he measures at 5'10'', I'd have him in the latter half of the 1st at best. He'll simply struggle to drive the ball down into intermediate zones over the middle. His arm strength won't matter on those passes if he can't get on top of the ball and fire it downhill. All it will do is have him sailing passes as he tries to clear his lineman.

The only way you could keep the entire field open for him is to move the pocket around a lot and then you're going to expose him to more and more hits AND you'll need to build an athletic, intelligent offensive line with a ton of continuity to keep him upright.

The rise of the shotgun formation and spread concepts gives him a chance that he wouldn't have had 5 years ago, I'll give him that. But it's still more risk than I'd ever be willing to take at 1.1.

I agree wholeheartedly. But I'd bet serious money he goes top 10. If for no other reason than NFL decision makers are dumb an awful lot of the time.

As you said here, the NFL game is so spread out now that I think you'd mitigate some of that.

I wouldn't take him if he's that short just because I'm not in the game of hoping for an outlier. But I'm interested to see what Kinsbury's offense will look like and I think Kyler is a great fit.

Plus I just want to see all the drama and shit. Entertain me NFL, lets see it.

Kingsbury's offense isn't that great. It was pretty damned good against Big 12 defenses with Mahomes, but this isn't that. He's not going to be afforded the space Big 12 teams gave him, and schematically I didn't see anything groundbreaking. I admittedly didn't watch a ton of Tech, but that's what I saw when I did.

Unless there is something I'm not seeing with him, I think he flames out fantastically as a HC.

[O.city]

I agree wholeheartedly. But I'd bet serious money he goes top 10. If for no other reason than NFL decision makers are dumb an awful lot of the time.



Kingsbury's offense isn't that great. It was pretty damned good against Big 12 defenses with Mahomes, but this isn't that. He's not going to be afforded the space Big 12 teams gave him, and schematically I didn't see anything groundbreaking. I admittedly didn't watch a ton of Tech, but that's what I saw when I did.

Unless there is something I'm not seeing with him, I think he flames out fantastically as a HC.

All possible and true.

We'll see how it plays out.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Talked with Andy Reid and he told me that Eric Berry isn’t having surgery this offseason.</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1100851928999882752?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

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[Discuss Thrower]

Everyone always mocks the Patriots a QB at the end of the 1st round....and it never fucking happens.

It'd probably take the Cards offloading Rosen and their top second round pick to get Belichick to offer up #32 and maybe a mid-rounder, yea?

[staylor26]

It'd probably take the Cards offloading Rosen and their top second round pick to get Belichick to offer up #32 and maybe a mid-rounder, yea?

lol why would the Cards do that?

You’re essentially trading Rosen to move up one spot?

[DJ's left nut]

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Someone's gotta carry Hock's bags...

[Discuss Thrower]

lol why would the Cards do that?

You’re essentially trading Rosen to move up one spot?

Handpicked QB + another year of control on another potential starter that you would otherwise get in the second for Rosen?

[DJ's left nut]

Handpicked QB + another year of control on another potential starter that you would otherwise get in the second for Rosen?

You could deal Rosen to someone willing to give you a pick at the top of the 2nd, IMO. And that's a hell of a lot more valuable than moving up a single spot (which is usually worth about a 4th).

I'm not saying that moving Rosen is an unthinkable position for them. But moving Rosen to move up a single spot sure as hell is. There's no way they'd deal him way for relative value of a 4th round pick. The Raiders, Giants, Jags, Bucs, Bills, Broncos and Bengals (3 and 5-10) would all consider that move and at least one of them would take the Cardinals up on it.

[ntexascardfan]

Some teams never ****ing learn.

And apparently winning two Superbowls makes it so a team can't get rid of you.

I think it's a smart move if they draft Haskins.

Haskins has a ton of potential, but won't be ready in year 1.

Draft Haskins, let him learn behind Eli.

Get another top 5 next season. Give Haskins another playmaker to work with.

The only big drawback to that plan is they are essentially wasting Barkley's rookie contract.

[Gravedigger]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Reid says he&#39;s a big fan of Demetrius Harris. Says he&#39;s welcome back</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1100855060026834944?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote>
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I'm glad one of us is.

[BryanBusby]

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[KChiefs1]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Lololol. ⁦<a href="https://twitter.com/MikeGiardi?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MikeGiardi</a>⁩ “bulging dick....” <a href="https://t.co/Y5j8ONU5N5">pic.twitter.com/Y5j8ONU5N5</a></p>— Scott Zolak (@scottzolak) <a href="https://twitter.com/scottzolak/status/1100852386707456005?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 27, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



LMAO

[BlackOp]

You could deal Rosen to someone willing to give you a pick at the top of the 2nd, IMO. And that's a hell of a lot more valuable than moving up a single spot (which is usually worth about a 4th).

I'm not saying that moving Rosen is an unthinkable position for them. But moving Rosen to move up a single spot sure as hell is. There's no way they'd deal him way for relative value of a 4th round pick. The Raiders, Giants, Jags, Bucs, Bills, Broncos and Bengals (3 and 5-10) would all consider that move and at least one of them would take the Cardinals up on it.

I think the Chargers should trade their #1 for Rosen. They get the local UCLA star QB and start to remake their identity in a year or two..

Where would Rosen be drafted in this years class....

[BryanBusby]

Rivers still has a few years left. Why the fuck would they do that?

[BlackOp]

Rivers still has a few years left. Why the **** would they do that?

Because they could groom him, now, and get a cheap BU QB. He has local appeal. He's a top 10 pick most years...it's a good value.

I dont want the Chargers to do it...ha. It does makes sense on a marketing front...nobody cares about them right now.

[Discuss Thrower]

UCLA Star

[BryanBusby]

Because they could groom him, now, and get a cheap BU QB. He has local appeal. He's a top 10 pick most years...it's a good value.

I dont want the Chargers to do it...ha. It does makes sense on a marketing front...nobody cares about them right now.
They're putting players around Rivers to win, not getting his replacement. LMAO

[Skyy God]

They're putting players around Rivers to win, not getting his replacement. LMAO

This.

Rivers is a redass on a good day. Imagine if they brought in his replacement.

[O.city]

Kyler measured in at 5”10

[CasselGotPeedOn]

Kyler measured in at 5”10

I haven't really been following, is that taller than people were thinking he'd measure at?

[O.city]

I haven't really been following, is that taller than people were thinking he'd measure at?

Some thought he might measure at 5"7

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach said CB is an area that they’ll be aggressive with this offseason, while praising Charvarius Ward’s development after joining team at the end of the preseason last year.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1101150773285736448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brett veach, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> GM: &quot;Steve will mix it up as far as scheme. He&#39;s going to put players in position to make plays.&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> <a href="https://t.co/NIITp4LJ7V">pic.twitter.com/NIITp4LJ7V</a></p>&mdash; Joe Everett (@JoeWEverett) <a href="https://twitter.com/JoeWEverett/status/1101150692406951936?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veach says the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> have a plan in place and our comfortable with Eric Berry. Not overly committal</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1101151191701078022?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> value versatility for DBs coming out of college. Not unique but noteworthy</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1101151733114376197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“You have a Hall of Fame coach and a league MVP at quarterback, you feel pretty good. It’s a good thing.” - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach</p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1101152101944705024?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“The defensive line this year is really deep… there’s a lot of depth at the position. There will be a lot of names from those defensive players called early on.” - <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach</p>&mdash; Arrowhead Pride (@ArrowheadPride) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadPride/status/1101152704796246016?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a>: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach speaking on the ‘positionless’ secondary &amp; evaluating on the backend <a href="https://t.co/Ki9paD6m0S">pic.twitter.com/Ki9paD6m0S</a></p>&mdash; Emory Hunt (@FBallGameplan) <a href="https://twitter.com/FBallGameplan/status/1101152402923765760?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs GM Brett Veach on Justin Houston’s future in Kansas City <a href="https://t.co/0oYldFITNT">pic.twitter.com/0oYldFITNT</a></p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1101153570219536384?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was a pretty interesting answer. Veach certainly didn’t sound committed to Justin Houston being in KC in 2019. <a href="https://t.co/svKzi1PUY1">https://t.co/svKzi1PUY1</a></p>&mdash; Brandon Kiley (@BKSportsTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/BKSportsTalk/status/1101153900256739329?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[O.city]

Icy roads in sw Missouri leads to all of o.city's pts cancelling this morning so i'm just here doing the lords work and keeping all you up to date.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach said CB is an area that they’ll be aggressive with this offseason, while praising Charvarius Ward’s development after joining team at the end of the preseason last year.</p>&mdash; BJ Kissel (@ChiefsReporter) <a href="https://twitter.com/ChiefsReporter/status/1101150773285736448?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> value versatility for DBs coming out of college. Not unique but noteworthy</p>&mdash; Matt Verderame (@MattVerderame) <a href="https://twitter.com/MattVerderame/status/1101151733114376197?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Amani Hooker, come on down.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

Veach also said Damien Williams spot is his to lose

[htismaqe]

Veach also said Damien Williams spot is his to lose

Anybody actually paying attention knew that already. ;)

Some people just think if you don't have a Christian Okoye on the roster, you're not committed to the run.

[The Franchise]

Amani Hooker, come on down.

Same thing with Adderley.

[htismaqe]

Same thing with Adderley.

There's a bunch of guys in this draft that are pretty versatile, if not top-tier players. Guys like Savage, for example.

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caught up with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach after the podium session. Asked about year 3 expectations for Tanoh Kpassagnon. He said he expects both Kpassagnon and Breeland Speaks to be a better fit in Steve Spagnuolo&#39;s scheme. Specifically mentioned both as 4-3 defensive ends.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1101159159544852481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Hammock Parties]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One NFL GM on Kyler Murray’s combine measurements: “He might not be tall, but he’s thick as fuck. He’s got a big ass to generate power. Reminds me of my wife.”<br><br>High praise for the former Sooner QB.</p>&mdash; lan Rapoport (@SportsTalkBarry) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/status/1101159358472376320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One NFL GM on Kyler Murray’s combine measurements: “He might not be tall, but he’s thick as fuck. He’s got a big ass to generate power. Reminds me of my wife.”<br><br>High praise for the former Sooner QB.</p>&mdash; lan Rapoport (@SportsTalkBarry) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/status/1101159358472376320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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ROFL

[UChieffyBugger]

Sounds like Veach is high on Georgia RB Elijah Holyfield. A kid who runs a lot like Zeke Elliot imo.

[SuperBowl4]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">One NFL GM on Kyler Murray’s combine measurements: “He might not be tall, but he’s thick as ****. He’s got a big ass to generate power. Reminds me of my wife.”<br><br>High praise for the former Sooner QB.</p>&mdash; lan Rapoport (@SportsTalkBarry) <a href="https://twitter.com/SportsTalkBarry/status/1101159358472376320?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Disturbing. His wife might be filing for divorce if she doesn't have a sense of humor.

[O.city]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veach said Eric Berry’s evaluation by Dr. Bob Anderson was positive, reiterating what Andy Reid said yesterday about no surgery required and the team having more optimism for 2019. Pointed to end of season and NE playoff game as sign of progress.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1101159945586782210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[staylor26]

Sounds like Veach is high on Georgia RB Elijah Holyfield. A kid who runs a lot like Zeke Elliot imo.

What did he say?

Just posted about him in the Draft section yesterday :)

[The Franchise]

What did he say?

Just posted about him in the Draft section yesterday :)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach smiled when he said he could definitely envision Georgia RB Elijah Holyfield in the backfield for Kansas City.</p>&mdash; Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) <a href="https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/1101151200400101376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[DJ's left nut]

Anybody actually paying attention knew that already. ;)

Some people just think if you don't have a Christian Okoye on the roster, you're not committed to the run.

{snicker}

I see what you're doing here and I'm a fan...

[staylor26]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach smiled when he said he could definitely envision Georgia RB Elijah Holyfield in the backfield for Kansas City.</p>&mdash; Trevor Sikkema (@TampaBayTre) <a href="https://twitter.com/TampaBayTre/status/1101151200400101376?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Boner alert

[htismaqe]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Veach said Eric Berry’s evaluation by Dr. Bob Anderson was positive, reiterating what Andy Reid said yesterday about no surgery required and the team having more optimism for 2019. Pointed to end of season and NE playoff game as sign of progress.</p>&mdash; Matt Derrick (@mattderrick) <a href="https://twitter.com/mattderrick/status/1101159945586782210?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So basically 2018 all over again. Great.

[Beef Supreme]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Caught up with <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> GM Brett Veach after the podium session. Asked about year 3 expectations for Tanoh Kpassagnon. He said he expects both Kpassagnon and Breeland Speaks to be a better fit in Steve Spagnuolo&#39;s scheme. Specifically mentioned both as 4-3 defensive ends.</p>&mdash; Charles Goldman (@goldmctNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/goldmctNFL/status/1101159159544852481?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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So he's been drafting for scheme we weren't even running.

[The Franchise]

So he's been drafting for scheme we weren't even running.

People on this board have been talking about this for over a year now.

[DJ's left nut]

People on this board have been talking about this for over a year now.

Yuuuuup.

The Speaks pick was a dead giveaway if the Hitchens FA signing hadn't already exposed his line of thinking. By DoD there was no other reasonable conclusion to reach.

He was drafting players that he hoped could contribute this season but that he had plans on incorporating into an eventual 4-3 switch.

[The Franchise]

Yuuuuup.

The Speaks pick was a dead giveaway if the Hitchens FA signing hadn't already exposed his line of thinking. By DoD there was no other reasonable conclusion to reach.

He was drafting players that he hoped could contribute this season but that he had plans on incorporating into an eventual 4-3 switch.

And I'm perfectly fucking happy with that switch. I'll be glad to not see the 3-4 anymore.

[Beef Supreme]

People on this board have been talking about this for over a year now.

Oh I know. It just pisses me off that they've been drafting like they were getting rid of granpa Bob, but they didn't pull the trigger on getting rid of grandpa Bob.

[O.city]

Yuuuuup.

The Speaks pick was a dead giveaway if the Hitchens FA signing hadn't already exposed his line of thinking. By DoD there was no other reasonable conclusion to reach.

He was drafting players that he hoped could contribute this season but that he had plans on incorporating into an eventual 4-3 switch.

So that kinda begs the question, why not do it last year?

Some have said because they didn't feel Pat was going to be as good as he was, which duh, no one did, but wouldn't that make last year a transition year for them because of that?

If that's the case, seems last year was the perfect year to make the switch, see who fits and who doesn't, then fine tune it this year.

What the hell happened?

[The Franchise]

Oh I know. It just pisses me off that they've been drafting like they were getting rid of granpa Bob, but they didn't pull the trigger on getting rid of grandpa Bob.

I think the plan was Spags before this last season but Spags wanted to wait a year because of the whole Giants fiasco. That and they weren't expecting Mahomes to be THAT good THAT fast.

[Beef Supreme]

I think the plan was Spags before this last season but Spags wanted to wait a year because of the whole Giants fiasco. That and they weren't expecting Mahomes to be THAT good THAT fast.

That sounds .... made up.

[The Franchise]

So that kinda begs the question, why not do it last year?

Some have said because they didn't feel Pat was going to be as good as he was, which duh, no one did, but wouldn't that make last year a transition year for them because of that?

If that's the case, seems last year was the perfect year to make the switch, see who fits and who doesn't, then fine tune it this year.

What the hell happened?

Spags wasn't ready?

If Reid wanted Spags as his DC from the beginning.....then I don't see the team hiring another DC only to get rid of him after a year.

[Beef Supreme]

I guess it's as good a theory as any. Dumb as fuck move any way you look at it.

[htismaqe]

I guess it's as good a theory as any. Dumb as fuck move any way you look at it.

Not if Reid wanted Spagnuolo and nobody else. What makes more sense? Keeping Sutton for one more year or hiring a new DC and then getting rid of him after 12 months?

[Beef Supreme]

Not if Reid wanted Spagnuolo and nobody else. What makes more sense? Keeping Sutton for one more year or hiring a new DC and then getting rid of him after 12 months?

A lot to assume.

Like I said, as good a theory as anything else, I guess. But it sure sounds like a whole lot of guessing.

[saphojunkie]

I guess it's as good a theory as any. Dumb as fuck move any way you look at it.

It's not, actually.

Spags wasn't ready?

If Reid wanted Spags as his DC from the beginning.....then I don't see the team hiring another DC only to get rid of him after a year.

Spags was also being paid by the Giants last year. Who knows if that becomes voided with another job.

[UChieffyBugger]

After speaking highly of RB Elijah Holyfield, Veach has also spoken glowingly about Rodney Anderson. I must say I think Anderson would be incredible In this offense. Really does look like we'll be taking an RB for sure this year.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Sounds like we’ve had tons of meetings with RBs. Bet we draft one on day two or three.

[Chris Meck]

Sounds like we’ve had tons of meetings with RBs. Bet we draft one on day two or three.

as long as those first three are defense

[St. Patty's Fire]

I could get behind an RB in round 3 for sure

Love D Will but we could use a second guy

[Buehler445]

as long as those first three are defense

Not sure I’m totally on board with that. I think we could probably dumpster dive or get UDFA guys or AAF guys and be OK at RB. I’m thinking unless there is elite talent floating around somewhere we probably need to be taking some shots at OL type guys.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Apparently the Chiefs met ‘extensively’ with Dexter Williams, RB from Notre Dame. He looks like an awesome fit in this video for our offense:

https://youtu.be/CO6jP-T7RmU

You see him running hard and fast on a lot of plays very similar to what the Chiefs use, specifically outside zone and pin/pulls. I bet they want this guy bad.

EDIT: The more research I’ve done, apparently he had some disciplinary issues in 2016. Not sure how that may affect things.

[staylor26]

Sounds like we’ve had tons of meetings with RBs. Bet we draft one on day two or three.

Link? Hate to sound like a broken record lol

[Chris Meck]

Spags wasn't ready?

If Reid wanted Spags as his DC from the beginning.....then I don't see the team hiring another DC only to get rid of him after a year.

I don't think the plan was specifically Spags. I think the plan seems clear though to transition to a 4-3.

And I think they waited a year to do so due to a first year QB and Reid wanting to concentrate on that side of the ball.

All of the players they drafted got a year's NFL experience, I don't think it was wasted at all.

[The Franchise]

Apparently the Chiefs met ‘extensively’ with Dexter Williams, RB from Notre Dame. He looks like an awesome fit in this video for our offense:

https://youtu.be/CO6jP-T7RmU

You see him running hard and fast on a lot of plays very similar to what the Chiefs use, specifically outside zone and pin/pulls. I bet they want this guy bad.

EDIT: The more research I’ve done, apparently he had some disciplinary issues in 2016. Not sure how that may affect things.

Fucking knew it!

The choice is fucking obvious.

Dexter Williams from Notre Dame.


Damien Williams
Dexter Williams
Darrel Williams

[staylor26]

LMAO that’s great Pest

[RunKC]

Dexter Williams is fine...as long as we draft Jerry Tillery in the first.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Mahomes effect is real. A lot of these guys getting asked about the Chiefs or meeting with them, and they often cite how great it would be to play with Pat.

[The Franchise]

Metcalf measured in at 6'3" and 228 lbs......with 1.6 percent body fat.

[Kiimo]

I'm very iffy on Dexter Williams. Reminds me of Jay Ajayi and...meh.

[Hammock Parties]

sexy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ole Miss WR D.K. Metcalf, of social media fame, measured in at 6-foot-3 and 3/8 and 228 pounds... with 1.6% body fat ����</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1101223763398529026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Beef Supreme]

sexy

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Ole Miss WR D.K. Metcalf, of social media fame, measured in at 6-foot-3 and 3/8 and 228 pounds... with 1.6% body fat ����</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1101223763398529026?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 28, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Yeah, I don't see how that happens without PEDs. But let's all pretend.

[Kiimo]

I mean, his uncle was Eric Metcalf.

That dude was a freak.

[O.city]

Chiefs gonna take a rb at some point

Hopefully they don’t take any one from Notre De because fuck that place

[UChieffyBugger]

Apparently the Chiefs met ‘extensively’ with Dexter Williams, RB from Notre Dame. He looks like an awesome fit in this video for our offense:

https://youtu.be/CO6jP-T7RmU

You see him running hard and fast on a lot of plays very similar to what the Chiefs use, specifically outside zone and pin/pulls. I bet they want this guy bad.

EDIT: The more research I’ve done, apparently he had some disciplinary issues in 2016. Not sure how that may affect things.

They've also met with Justice Hill, Mike Weber, Devin Singletary, Miles Sanders, Nick Brosette and possibly David Montgomery. The Texans, Eagles and to a lesser extent the Jets seem to be our main competition when it comes to the RB's. LOL and I remember some dummy trying to argue with me that the Chiefs wouldn't be looking at RB's this year ROFL .

[htismaqe]

They've also met with Justice Hill, Mike Weber, Devin Singletary, Miles Sanders, Nick Brosette and possibly David Montgomery. The Texans, Eagles and to a lesser extent the Jets seem to be our main competition when it comes to the RB's. LOL and I remember some dummy trying to argue with me that the Chiefs wouldn't be looking at RB's this year ROFL .

ROFL

You have a real comprehension problem.

Nobody in that draft thread said the Chiefs wouldn't look at RB's this year. They said there wasn't a need and wouldn't take one in the first 3 rounds. The fact that you can't tell the difference between the two says a lot about you.

[The Franchise]

ROFL

You have a real comprehension problem.

Nobody in that draft thread said the Chiefs wouldn't look at RB's this year. They said there wasn't a need and wouldn't take one in the first 3 rounds. The fact that you can't tell the difference between the two says a lot about you.

SMH.....YOU GUYS HAVE NO CLUE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT! LOL

ALL THE ERIC BERRY CRYBABIES ARE GOING TO PAY!!!!!

[Tribal Warfare]

I mean, his uncle was Eric Metcalf.

That dude was a freak.

His grandfather was Terry Metcalf

[BigRedChief]

I mean, his uncle was Eric Metcalf.

That dude was a freak.

His grandfather was Terry Metcalfgenealogy does contribute for sure. My Grandpa was 5’10. Dad 6’0. I was 6’2. Son 6’4. Pretty consistent there. But....... who drafts because their grandpa was a good NFL player?

[UChieffyBugger]

ROFL

You have a real comprehension problem.

Nobody in that draft thread said the Chiefs wouldn't look at RB's this year. They said there wasn't a need and wouldn't take one in the first 3 rounds. The fact that you can't tell the difference between the two says a lot about you.

Yep, i knew one of them would turm up :rolleyes: . I guess you didn't see the individual who was preeching that we "don't need one" because we have Damien Williams. But keep caping for others though, it's funny.

[O.city]

They don’t need to spend a high pick on one because they have Williams

They’ll take one later

[DJ's left nut]

Oh my God, people.

Don't let that fucking idiot infect another thread.

[O.city]

So which center should we take with one of our 2nd rounders?

[DJ's left nut]

So which center should we take with one of our 2nd rounders?

Whichever potential pro-bowler falls to one of our 3rd rounders; there are 2 of them.

Or you take Michael Jordan out of OSU in the 6th or 7th.

We have a passable situation at C with Reiter already under contract and Devey likely being someone we could re-sign at/near the minimum if we needed to. There's no reason to prioritize the position.

If McCoy or Jenkins fell to the 3rd, I'd probably pull the trigger there. I think Jordan's just so damn raw that he's a 3rd day pick at best. Someone like Bradberry could fall into that happy medium of 'ready to play' and 'lacks the ceiling to get into the 2nd' so if you really wanted a C, you could probably get him in the 3rd and justify it. I just wouldn't go that route.

[St. Patty's Fire]

Yep, i knew one of them would turm up :rolleyes: . I guess you didn't see the individual who was preeching that we "don't need one" because we have Damien Williams. But keep caping for others though, it's funny.

“preeching” LMAO

Mongoloid

[O.city]

Whichever potential pro-bowler falls to one of our 3rd rounders; there are 2 of them.

Or you take Michael Jordan out of OSU in the 6th or 7th.

We have a passable situation at C with Reiter already under contract and Devey likely being someone we could re-sign at/near the minimum if we needed to. There's no reason to prioritize the position.

If McCoy or Jenkins fell to the 3rd, I'd probably pull the trigger there. I think Jordan's just so damn raw that he's a 3rd day pick at best. Someone like Bradberry could fall into that happy medium of 'ready to play' and 'lacks the ceiling to get into the 2nd' so if you really wanted a C, you could probably get him in the 3rd and justify it. I just wouldn't go that route.

I like Bradbury a lot. He’s strong like bull.

They’ve got McKenzie who could maybe do something?

[UChieffyBugger]

Oh my God, people.

Don't let that ****ing idiot infect another thread.

The butthurt is REAL ROFL

[RunKC]

I like Bradbury a lot. He’s strong like bull.

They’ve got McKenzie who could maybe do something?

Well he just ran a 4.93 and benched 34 reps. I think he’s an early 2nd rd pick.

[htismaqe]

Yep, i knew one of them would turm up :rolleyes: . I guess you didn't see the individual who was preeching that we "don't need one" because we have Damien Williams. But keep caping for others though, it's funny.

That was me, dummy.

"We don't need one" does not equal "the Chiefs won't draft a RB at all". You might want to take English as a Second Language at the local community college again.

Plus, I guess you missed where Brett Veach said, and I quote "the job is Damien Williams' to lose"?

I mean, everything that Veach and Reid say you take as literal gospel so suck on that for a minute. :facepalm:

[DJ's left nut]

I like Bradbury a lot. He’s strong like bull.

They’ve got McKenzie who could maybe do something?

Yeah, they seem to like McKenzie. I just wonder if he has the agility that I think they'd want to see in a C to plug him in there.

Bradbury would be a good athletic fit for them, for sure. I guess I didn't realize he had that kind of play strength; seemed more like a Morse kind of player who wins on angles and technique.

[O.city]

Yeah I think if Bradbury makes it to one of our 2nds they’d consider taking him

[RunKC]

If we take an OL in rd 2, I think Michael Deiter would be a guy Andy would be really high on.

[TambaBerry]

If we take an OL in rd 2, I think Michael Deiter would be a guy Andy would be really high on.

you could just give him Gehrig Dieters number and save money on jerseys

[htismaqe]

you could just give him Gehrig Dieters number and save money on jerseys

I don't think they'd fit. LOL

[Chris Meck]

That was me, dummy.

"We don't need one" does not equal "the Chiefs won't draft a RB at all". You might want to take English as a Second Language at the local community college again.

Plus, I guess you missed where Brett Veach said, and I quote "the job is Damien Williams' to lose"?

I mean, everything that Veach and Reid say you take as literal gospel so suck on that for a minute. :facepalm:

ROFL
don't even try, man. That guy's got a room temperature IQ.

[O.city]

Elijah Holyfield ran a 4.79

Woof

[Chris Meck]

Elijah Holyfield ran a 4.79

Woof

what did Kareem Hunt run?

*4.66

[O.city]

Better than a 4.8

[staylor26]

Elijah Holyfield ran a 4.79

Woof

Yikes

Hopefully his value goes back down because I still like him on day 3

[O.city]

Yikes

Hopefully his value goes back down because I still like him on day 3

No thanks

If he runs that slow I’m not interested

[O.city]

4.65 is the rb threshold for me

Anything over no thanks

[staylor26]

No thanks

If he runs that slow I’m not interested

He doesn’t look that slow at all on tape. I trust my eyes.

[O.city]

The hit rate of rbs over 4.7 is like less than 1%

[staylor26]

Darrell Williams had a similar time last year IIRC

[DJ's left nut]

Elijah Holyfield ran a 4.79

Woof

Yeah, I think I can go ahead and close the book on Holyfield. I don't even know what his split times were and I can't imagine they were any better than the rest. He even looked slow.

Hard pass. That's UDFA speed.

[Chris Meck]

4.65 is the rb threshold for me

Anything over no thanks

Kareem Hunt, 4.66

[DJ's left nut]

Darrell Williams had a similar time last year IIRC

And Darrell Williams is a backup quality RB who we went undrafted and ran like the 4.72 time he put up.

I mean don't get me wrong - I'll take a UDFA flyer on the kid and see if he can unseat Darrell as a power option, but I'm not using a draft pick on that guy.

Fucking mouthbreather mcgee says he runs like Zeke Elliott. Sure, if Elliott broke his foot the day before.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Kareem Hunt, 4.66

Seen him run away from some defenses a time or two...

Not saying Holyfield is similar. His time is much worse. But some guys do just play faster in the pads than they run in shorts, and vise versa.

[O.city]

Kareem Hunt, 4.66

Uh, I’m gonna go ahead and count that as an operator error and say he barely made the cut

[O.city]

Seen him run away from some defenses a time or two...

Not saying Holyfield is similar. His time is much worse. But some guys do just play faster in the pads than they run in shorts, and vise versa.

Holyfield doesn’t play fast though.

He’s power and balance but at that time? Nah

[O.city]

Montgomery is kareem Hunt 2.0

[staylor26]

Holyfield doesn’t play fast though.

He’s power and balance but at that time? Nah

He certainly plays faster than that time hence why he was being talked about as a day 2 pick a lot lately.

I’d still take him in the 6th/7th.

[O.city]

He certainly plays faster than that time hence why he was being talked about as a day 2 pick a lot lately.

I’d still take him in the 6th/7th.

His second time was a 4.81

That’s fullback times

He’d have to be an outlier to succeed with that time so no thanks

The kid from Memphis though yes please

[The Franchise]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/MemphisFB?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@MemphisFB</a> RB Darrell Henderson runs a 4.36u 40-yard dash!<br><br>��: <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> on <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@nflnetwork</a> <a href="https://t.co/3LUFpwcs1u">pic.twitter.com/3LUFpwcs1u</a></p>&mdash; NFL (@NFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/NFL/status/1101561935227629568?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 1, 2019</a></blockquote>
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[Dunerdr]

Seen him run away from some defenses a time or two...

Not saying Holyfield is similar. His time is much worse. But some guys do just play faster in the pads than they run in shorts, and vise versa.

hunt didnt run away from many secondary players. i distinctly remember the patriots defenders running him down at the goal line once and he wrestled his way in.i believe it was his big receiving td in the opener against them last year

[Shoes]

Scratch Holyfield off the list for me- two RBs i'm interested in later rounds are David Montgomery and LJ Scott. Lot of intriguing prospects at the RB position though this year.

[htismaqe]

Montgomery is kareem Hunt 2.0

His coach even said as much.

[BossChief]

Maybe use a 5th and 6th to move up to get a RB but RB was not a problem position for KC last year.

[RunKC]

I know he isn’t the type of back Veach likes but Justice Hill looks awesome. He reminds me of Phillip Lindsay when I watch his tape.

[Tribal Warfare]

Maybe use a 5th and 6th to move up to get a RB but RB was not a problem position for KC last year.

AFC Championship game says Kareem was missed, thus if value and talent is available you select the prospect. 3rd and short killed KC in the 1st half, with the help of Sutton's lack of a game plan facefucking team.

[O.city]

La canfora says he’s heard the chiefs are sniffing around offensive playmakers and wouldn’t be surprised if they got in on leveon

[KChiefs1]

I know he isn’t the type of back Veach likes but Justice Hill looks awesome. He reminds me of Phillip Lindsay when I watch his tape.



Agreed

[KChiefs1]

Seen him run away from some defenses a time or two...



Not saying Holyfield is similar. His time is much worse. But some guys do just play faster in the pads than they run in shorts, and vise versa.



Kareem was great at not letting the first guy take him down.

[Tribal Warfare]

La canfora says he’s heard the chiefs are sniffing around offensive playmakers and wouldn’t be surprised if they got in on leveon

LOL, KC isn't paying QB Money on anyone until PMII and Tyreek are extended/signed.

[O.city]

Holyfield is a guy you can get in Udfa every year

[O.city]

He said they’re sniffing around trades on offensive playmakers

So who would that be?

[RunKC]

Per LaCanfora..


Chiefs looking to add ... offense
I continue to hear the Chiefs are, believe it or not, trying to do something big for an offensive skill player. Yes, despite all of the talent they have already amassed on that side of the ball, and despite their obvious issues on defense, they are sniffing around on trade options and some teams I spoke to wouldn't be shocked if they got in on Le'Veon Bell. Bottom line is don't be shocked if these guys come away with a big-time receiver or running back.


Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.

[DJ's left nut]

Holyfield is a guy you can get in Udfa every year

You can get that guy off the street in November every year.

[ModSocks]

Per LaCanfora..



Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.

Doesn't surprise me at all. I figured there was a good chance they went offense in round 1 if he was the BPA.

I expect the Chiefs to continue stacking talent wherever they think they can find elite talent.

I don't see them paying Bell though.

[Discuss Thrower]

Per LaCanfora..



Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.

COOPER

FUCKING

KUPP

[DJ's left nut]

Per LaCanfora..



Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.

Been sayin' this for a month.

The defensive talent is better than it's production. A nice infusion will help it get to slightly above average but it doesn't need every thin red dime of draft/cap capital this offseason.

If the most talented player on our board is an offensive player at any point in the draft or at EVERY point in the draft, take the offensive player.

Unless you have a 23 year old MVP quarterback, within 3 seasons EVERY position on an NFL team is going to be one of need. And with rookie contracts running 4-5 years AND with the necessary learning curve, any great player you acquire at any position will be a player you need before that rookie contract ends.

I'm very glad to hear this.

[Tribal Warfare]

He said they’re sniffing around trades on offensive playmakers

So who would that be?

Hockenson,Metcalf,RB choice

[staylor26]

La Canfora was the first to break the Peters trade last year and I believe there was another move we made that he broke first recently.

If he said it, there’s probably something to it.

[RunKC]

Been sayin' this for a month.

The defensive talent is better than it's production. A nice infusion will help it get to slightly above average but it doesn't need every thin red dime of draft/cap capital this offseason.

If the most talented player on our board is an offensive player at any point in the draft or at EVERY point in the draft, take the offensive player.

Unless you have a 23 year old MVP quarterback, within 3 seasons EVERY position on an NFL team is going to be one of need. And with rookie contracts running 4-5 years AND with the necessary learning curve, any great player you acquire at any position will be a player you need before that rookie contract ends.

I'm very glad to hear this.

I was thinking Andy would for sure use one of our 2nd rd picks (at worst) on an offensive weapon. Not sure who we would trade for though.

Surely a trade would have to be for a guy on a rookie contract right? I mean shit man Tyreek is about to get paid and Sammy is currently getting paid.

I’m not sure what receiver would be on their radar?

[RunKC]

Also, the Chiefs are meeting seemingly every single TE at the combine. I think they’d like to get one of those guys in rd 2.

[Hoover]

Here’s a look at David Montgomery’s combine numbers:

40-yard dash: 4.62.

Bench press: 15 (reps).

Vertical jump: 28.5 (inches).

Broad jump: 121.0.

Here’s is what Hunt’s combine numbers were:

40-yard dash: 4.62

Bench press: 18.

Vertical jump: 36.5

Broad jump: 119.0

Same college coach. I don't think Montgomery is going to be a first round back. So if you want to replace Hunt, this is the guy IMO.

[The Franchise]

I want no part of Bell.

[Buckweath]

Per LaCanfora..



Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.
I'm surprised to read that. I mean there is only one ball to feed all those mouths.

I would have thought Veach would only look to add an offensive lineman, draft a RB, and possibly add depth at WR and TE on offense.

[siberian khatru]

Per LaCanfora..



Who would we trade for? Any ideas?

Sounds like they want to use that Peters pick.

This really needs to be its own thread, not buried in a combine thread. This isn't combine stuff.

[staylor26]

I'm surprised to read that. I mean there is only one ball to feed all those mouths.

I would have thought Veach would only look to add an offensive lineman, draft a RB, and possibly add depth at WR and TE on offense.

The Chiefs will be looking for playmakers every year with Pat at QB. Get used to it.

[siberian khatru]

This really needs to be its own thread, not buried in a combine thread. This isn't combine stuff.

Never mind, Wazu just posted one.

[DJ's left nut]

I want no part of Bell.

Dude's gonna get paid and then either coast or get injured.

That would be an insane, incredibly reckless decision by this front office.

[BryanBusby]

Dude's gonna get paid and then either coast or get injured.

That would be an insane, incredibly reckless decision by this front office.
They made a WR with bad wheels insanely rich. Wouldn't be the first reckless decision made by KC.

[DJ's left nut]

They made a WR with bad wheels insanely rich. Wouldn't be the first reckless decision made by KC.

But they did so in a way that won't hurt them too badly by the time they need to pay Hill and Jones.

They also did so in a landscape where they weren't sure if Mahomes would actually need that kind of help.

We now know that Patrick Mahomes can lead an elite offense with Damien Williams at RB. We KNOW he doesn't need LeVeon Bell and there's no way we can get Bell signed to a deal that we could escape as quickly as 2020 if necessary to retain our core.

These are similar situations but not identical. Moreover, I didn't think the Watkins contract was wise either. Doubling down on foolhardy is probably not wise...

[ModSocks]

Dude's gonna get paid and then either coast or get injured.

That would be an insane, incredibly reckless decision by this front office.

Naaah they wont sign Bell.

I can Toootally see them sniffing around Antonio Brown though.

[O.city]

Brown was my first thought

[DJ's left nut]

Cody Ford is going to be soooooo goooood.

I really think can't see why he should be any less highly regarded as a G prospect than Quenton Nelson. He has absolutely everything you could ask for in an interior lineman and could probably be a very good RT to boot.

Dude's a monster.

[comochiefsfan]

I'd much rather have Bell than Brown.

An elite RB is what takes this offense from great to historic, as we saw this season before Kareem got the boot and then afterwards.

[htismaqe]

I'd much rather have Bell than Brown.

An elite RB is what takes this offense from great to historic, as we saw this season before Kareem got the boot and then afterwards.

ROFL

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Some of these OL have really been impressive.

I’d rather have a stud DB or pass rusher in R1, but I hate the thought of possibly missing out on some of these high upside linemen who could fortify Mahomes’ protection.

[Chief Northman]

Cody Ford is going to be soooooo goooood.

I really think can't see why he should be any less highly regarded as a G prospect than Quenton Nelson. He has absolutely everything you could ask for in an interior lineman and could probably be a very good RT to boot.

Dude's a monster.

Monster yes.

But he doesn’t really fit the Chiefs O-line mold. For years now under Heck, there has been a profile/metric established for body types and measurables. I’m not convinced Ford at 335+ fits that mold. Damien Mama was the last guy who came close to that size.

With Fisher becoming a cut candidate as early as next year, and Morse looking like he will hit the market, I wouldn’t be shocked to see a day 1 or 2 investment at OL if real value fell to the Chiefs.

Names I like?
Dillard, Bradbury, Jenkins, Deiter, McCoy, Williams, Benzschawel, Lindstrom

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Noah Fant with the 4.51(!!!!)

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Hockensen with a 4.71

[staylor26]

Hock would be great obviously but I’d also love to have Fant too.

[Chief Northman]

Maybe Hock drops down boards with that time. Fant obviously improved his stock.
I’d be totally fine with the Chiefs selecting either of these Iowa boys. They will have long NFL careers.

[BossChief]

Noah Fant with the 4.51(!!!!)

Aaron Hernandez without the gun.

[BossChief]

Hockensen with a 4.71

Gronk pontential without the injury concerns.

[RunKC]

This is a very good TE class. Lot of very athletic guys.

We need to get one of these guys with our first 3 picks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is how we are looking after second runs using unofficial times. <a href="https://t.co/gvGW0iFDJn">pic.twitter.com/gvGW0iFDJn</a></p>&mdash; Anthony Staggs (@PyroStag) <a href="https://twitter.com/PyroStag/status/1101871879583866880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[staylor26]

Very disappointing times for Kaden Smith and Isaac Nauta

[smithandrew051]

This is a very good TE class. Lot of very athletic guys.

We need to get one of these guys with our first 3 picks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is how we are looking after second runs using unofficial times. <a href="https://t.co/gvGW0iFDJn">pic.twitter.com/gvGW0iFDJn</a></p>&mdash; Anthony Staggs (@PyroStag) <a href="https://twitter.com/PyroStag/status/1101871879583866880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Can you imagine?

Hill and Watkins on the outside
Kelce and Fant at TE’s split out
Williams out of the backfield

Good luck to the rest of the league!

[O.city]

Jesus Fant can fly

[RunKC]

How we feelin about this guy? First rd material?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/NFLCombine?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#NFLCombine</a> key measurements thread…<br><br>298. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Vanderbilt?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Vanderbilt</a> CB Joejuan Williams<br>Height: 6-3 5/8<br>Weight: 211<br>Hand: 9 6/8<br>Arm: 32 4/8<br>Wingspan: 78</p>&mdash; Charles Robinson (@CharlesRobinson) <a href="https://twitter.com/CharlesRobinson/status/1101844783432196096?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

I like that corner

[displacedinMN]

Go Iowa!!!

[staylor26]

I love Williams but I think round 1 is a little bit early for him.

I wouldn’t be totally against it though.

[Buckweath]

This is a very good TE class. Lot of very athletic guys.

We need to get one of these guys with our first 3 picks.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is how we are looking after second runs using unofficial times. <a href="https://t.co/gvGW0iFDJn">pic.twitter.com/gvGW0iFDJn</a></p>&mdash; Anthony Staggs (@PyroStag) <a href="https://twitter.com/PyroStag/status/1101871879583866880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
No to a TE with one of the first three picks. Not happening.

[displacedinMN]

Some of those balls are moving!!!!!!!!!!

[displacedinMN]

Fant, Kelce, Hill, one more WR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Hoover]

Fant was always going to have better measurables than TJ, but Hockenson is the better all around TE. I’d be all over him.

[MahomesMagic]

Fant was always going to have better measurables than TJ, but Hockenson is the better all around TE. I’d be all over him.

They're both good. I agree Hock would be my first choice.

[Frosty]

No to a TE with one of the first three picks. Not happening.

I still really like Drew Sample in the second tier TEs. 4.72 40 is a good time for a "blocking" TE.

[vailpass]

Fant was always going to have better measurables than TJ, but Hockenson is the better all around TE. I’d be all over him.

Yep.

Hock is the more complete TE by far. His violent blocking separates him from all other college TEs and makes him immediately NFL ready for a team that needs that. His routes are crisp, his hands are glue, and he can YAC.

Fant is an average blocker but brings that extra WR threat to the TE position.
I didn't care for how he handled not getting as many balls thrown his way last year, him and his brothers both.

Would be so cool to see them both go R1.

[Bwana]

I still really like Drew Sample in the second tier TEs. 4.72 40 is a good time for a "blocking" TE.

Drew Sample

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/drew-sample

Routes - Lacks the physical traits and nuance to separate from man coverage. Feet are heavy and he's too tight in the lower half to sink and snap his hips through his breaks. Breaks require too much throttle down and are elongated. Was frequently used to create a rub on a shallow crosser. Ran a limited route tree and needs considerable development to be anything more than a check down option.

Hands - Targets were limited but did not have notable issues with drops. Appears to greet the ball naturally and extend his arms. Showcased the ability to catch the ball in a crowd and hang on through contact.

Ball Skills - Was not tasked with winning at the catch point or tracking the football give his limited receiving role at Washington. There were a few reps where he did illustrate comfort tracking the football and adjusting. Handled simple routes and throws but will need to grow and prove himself.

YAC Ability - Lacks the juice to be a factor after the catch but is decisive to work up the field post-catch and gain the available yards. Will drop his shoulder and challenge tacklers with physicality.

Play Speed - Not a threat to challenge defenses vertically on speed alone. Separating from man coverage is a challenge. Not a laborious mover but the turf certainly doesn't disappear quickly. Easy for opponents to mirror his patterns.

Play Strength - Has ordinary play strength. There is enough power present to compete in the trenches but he does not consistently win and will get plugged back into gaps. Defensive ends have no trouble fighting pressure with pressure and setting the edge. Easily jammed and rerouted when challenged in his release.

In-line Blocking - Has the frame and strength needed to exchange power in the trenches but is still more of a technician. Committed to working his hips around and positioning his frame to seal lanes. Would create more movement if he played with more consistently leveraged hips and developed more strength in his lower half that would allow him to accelerate his feet and move bodies. Does well to fit his hands.

Space Blocking - Has most of his success as a blocker when he is tasked with lead blocking into a gap, the perimeter and as a vertical blocker. Does well to play under control and connect with moving targets. Angles are generally sound.

Versatility - Vanilla skill set and he doesn't shine in any one area although he is functional in multiple usages. Most effective as a move blocker but has flashes blocking in-line. Receiving skill set is limited but he can handle basic concepts.



BEST TRAIT - Space Blocking

WORST TRAIT - Receiving

RED FLAGS - None

When evaluating Sample's game, he does a little bit of everything but doesn't stand out particularly well in any area. His technique as a blocker is generally sound but his play strength yields modest results. As a receiver, Sample needs considerable development as a route runner and to prove his hands/ball skills given his minimal utilization. With that said, his below average athletic ability suggests his upside is limited. Sample may have some value on special teams and as a No. 3 tight end, but his overall ceiling is low.

Likely a depth player.

[Frosty]

The Huskies don't throw to their TEs very much so that is why he is getting dinged for his receiving skills. However, several sources at the Senior Bowl called him the best TE there and he showed he can catch the ball just fine. The same stuff was said about his former teammate Will Dissly last year and he came out on fire with the Seahawks before getting injured. Sample is very similar to Dissly in skill set.

This article is Redskins-centric (https://www.hogshaven.com/2019/3/2/18244016/drew-sample-wants-to-prove-he-can-do-it-all-should-the-redskins-add-him-to-the-te-unit) but has some clips o Sample at college and at the Senior Bowl. If you can get him the 4th or 5th, I would be all over that. Even if his receiving never developed, his blocking is so good that he would definitely be worth it.

[Chief Northman]

Parris Campbell testing phenomenal

[O.city]

This wr class is really strong and deep

Probably wouldn’t hurt to grab one in the 2/3

[Iconic]

I don't think either Fant or Hock are going to be available when we pick. Some team will fall in love with Fant's measurables and Hock is obviously going high as it is. But someone to watch out for is Irv Smith. He'd be available when we pick and I'd be completely fine with grabbing him at 29.

[BryanBusby]

I can't think of a single scenario where the Chiefs are going to prioritize taking a #2 TE with the first pick, especially with Andy having a never ending boner for Harris.

[In58men]

I REALLY want DK Metcalf.

What a fucking monster this guy is.

[KChiefs1]

Andy interview coming up on NFL Live.

[KChiefs1]

Andy interview coming up on NFL Live.


Veach is with him too.

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">KC Chiefs loading up on private meetings with RBs at combine... <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Raiders?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Raiders</a> going to talk to Rodney Anderson, Oklahoma, after his visit w/ KC. His injury is what has been scrutinized. <br><br>Andy Reid/Brett Veach also met w/:<br>Nick Brossette, Justice Hill, Miles Sanders, Devin Singletary</p>&mdash; Victor Cotto (@RaidersSource) <a href="https://twitter.com/RaidersSource/status/1101642428006703104?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 2, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

[O.city]

https://twitter.com/nfl_dougfarrar/status/1101928850060177409?s=21

[MAHOMO 4 LIFE!]

https://twitter.com/nfl_dougfarrar/status/1101928850060177409?s=21

Says the page doesn’t exist?

[O.city]

https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/2019/03/02/have-a-need-for-speed-memphis-rb-darrell-henderson-could-be-your-man/

[pugsnotdrugs19]

Yeah, so Jachai Polite is a moron. No thanks

https://twitter.com/jimowczarski/status/1101928975813824516?s=21

[Buehler445]

Some of these OL have really been impressive.

I’d rather have a stud DB or pass rusher in R1, but I hate the thought of possibly missing out on some of these high upside linemen who could fortify Mahomes’ protection.

I wouldn't be opposed to it with the OL injuries and advancing age of Fisher.

[Iconic]

Yeah we are definitely going to be taking a late round HB no question. Wouldn't mind Singletary in the 5th.

[KChiefs1]

I REALLY want DK Metcalf.

What a fucking monster this guy is.

4.33

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[pugsnotdrugs19]

How does Metcalf make it out of the top 10 with those results? My goodness. He’s a Julio Jones level physical specimen. (Not saying he’s that level of WR though)

[KChiefs1]

How does Metcalf make it out of the top 10 with those results? My goodness. He’s a Julio Jones level physical specimen. (Not saying he’s that level of WR though)


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8547746d18f1ef43732d5ca619280e7a.jpg

[pugsnotdrugs19]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190302/8547746d18f1ef43732d5ca619280e7a.jpg

Yeah, no way he gets out of the top 10